Rr

"RicodJour"

22/02/2006 10:08 PM

Utility Knife

Okay, a utility knife isn't the sexiest tool in the toolbox, but it's
damn...errr....utile! I must have gone through 30 of the suckers over
the years. Almost all of them were Stanley, some better than others.
Most knives hold five extra blades and there are several ways to change
blades. Some knives have to be opened with a screwdriver to change the
blade. Others have a button you push to release the blade and a
swingout holder for the spare blades, and the new blade is inserted in
the front of the knife. Stanley must have had ten different versions
of utility knives in all.

I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh

What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.

It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a roof
into the ivy.

Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be interested.

R


This topic has 69 replies

zv

"zak"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

02/03/2006 6:35 PM

Thanks for the tip, I just went to ebay and bought 2...


--
Zak/USMC/F 2-11/Viet Nam/'68-'69
"Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:QrFNf.39690$pE4.10311@trnddc04...
> After reading your original message I went to EBay and looked over this
> vendors products. Bought the Lawson knife with side-loading blades and
> just got it a few minutes ago. It's everything he advertised and more.
> It's already become my favorite instrument for maiming and hacking up
> myself. Can't wait to see how much blood I will lose.
>
> Seems to be heavier built than a Stanley Knife, has some rubber coating
> for grip, little door pops open on the side to side-load a pack of blades
> (comes with 6, 1 in the carrier and 5 in the storage drawer.) Wording on
> storage door indicates 5 blades in storage is max.
>
> Removing a dull blade is easy, just press a button in the front and the
> old blade pulls right out. Slide the blade carrier back and fwd again and
> it loads a new fresh blade (total time to load a new blade is 3-5 seconds,
> including removing the old one). Can turn the old blade front-to-back and
> pop it back in to use the sharp end.
>
> Also bought a box of 10 packs of 3-blade (30 total) off same seller as
> knife (Cripe Distributing). Has Lenox edge, shatter-resistant, bi-metal,
> suppose to last 3x longer, for $7. Haven't used them yet, but they look
> like excellent quality.
>
> All-in-all very well satisfied with utility knife and very highly
> recommend it. Always hated having to use a screwdriver to open the Stanley
> Knife and put new blades in.
> Here's the vendor's EBay store, seems to carry all kinds of utility
> knives and other tools:
> http://stores.ebay.com/Cripe-Distributing
>
> Thanks for sharing your find.
> Dennis
>
>
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Okay, a utility knife isn't the sexiest tool in the toolbox, but it's
>> damn...errr....utile! I must have gone through 30 of the suckers over
>> the years. Almost all of them were Stanley, some better than others.
>> Most knives hold five extra blades and there are several ways to change
>> blades. Some knives have to be opened with a screwdriver to change the
>> blade. Others have a button you push to release the blade and a
>> swingout holder for the spare blades, and the new blade is inserted in
>> the front of the knife. Stanley must have had ten different versions
>> of utility knives in all.
>>
>> I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
>> less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
>> across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
>> http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh
>>
>> What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
>> front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
>> position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
>> is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
>> seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
>> over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>>
>> It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
>> fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
>> making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a roof
>> into the ivy.
>>
>> Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be interested.
>>
>> R
>>
>
>

Oo

Oren

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 10:05 AM

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:27:43 -0500, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Then you pick up a nice tool with some
>> heft to it, and it just feels better in the hand.
>
>I feel that way every time I take a whiz.

And then you woke up.

Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

11/04/2006 9:36 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

> He does seem a bit lonely. That's trolls lot in life unfortunately.

You'd know, Pooky.

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

22/02/2006 11:07 PM

Robatoy wrote:
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
> > over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>
> "JUST" a utility knife? I'm always lobbing the ends of silicon tubes and
> cutting stuff. I have tried dozens of 'new' ideas...and they always
> sucked. Back to ol' Stanley. Utility knives are a staple in my
> repertoire.
>
> Thanks for the URL.

You're welcome. I'm a bit of a tool whore, or aficionado, depending on
your take on it, and I'm usually not too happy with Stanley's
performance as the 900 pound gorilla of the industry. It's well known
that back in the day Stanley would buy competitors and kill the newly
acquired tool line off - even if the tools were superior. It was all
about profitability. Can anyone say Microsoft?

Stanley's utility knives are all pretty weak. Some are such dated,
uncomfortable designs that the only reason they're still made is
because the production line is already set up.

R

DD

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

22/02/2006 11:40 PM

I teach Technical Theatre and Set Construction. I always tell my
students that the Stanley Knife is the most dangerous tool in the shop.
The danger of the tool is inversely porportonial to the amount of noise
it makes. I have seen a few horrific injuries with a table saw or a
radial arm, but I have seen more injuries with a stanley knife than any
other tool.

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

22/02/2006 11:49 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> I teach Technical Theatre and Set Construction. I always tell my
> students that the Stanley Knife is the most dangerous tool in the shop.
> The danger of the tool is inversely porportonial to the amount of noise
> it makes. I have seen a few horrific injuries with a table saw or a
> radial arm, but I have seen more injuries with a stanley knife than any
> other tool.

Interesting theory. I've always heard you have to watch out for the
quiet ones, but I assumed they were talking about people!

My utility knife did a nifty self-filet on my left thumb around 3 AM
one morning as I was trying to finish some work that was going to be
photographed the next day. I just squeezed the cut shut, taped it up
and kept working. It healed just fine...although there is a little
less sensitivity in one area, so I know I got a nerve. Or the time
the hook blade slipped while cutting carpet, went through my shoe and
got my toe. Or the time... You get the idea.

R

RN

"RayV"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 7:07 AM

I'm with you. I have three Stanley 99Es and have no interest in
changing to the 'new & improved' knives with the rubber handles and
swiveling heads.

I also have an old Hyde knife I like but have been unable to find
replacement blades because it requires the kind with a hole in the
middle.

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 8:57 AM

Mike Berger wrote:
> RicodJour wrote:
>
> > I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
> > less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
> > across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
> > http://xxxxxxxxxx

Oooh! You munged the URL, you URL-munger! ;)

> > What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
> > front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
> > position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
> > is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
> > seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
> > over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>
> Does it use standard blades?

Yep. I use hook blades frequently. I bought two of the Lawson's so I
can have one loaded with each type of blade.

It's a funny thing about the weight of it. In general one would think
that lighter would be better. Then you pick up a nice tool with some
heft to it, and it just feels better in the hand.

R

t

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 12:04 PM


RicodJour wrote:
> Okay, a utility knife isn't the sexiest tool in the toolbox, but it's
> damn...errr....utile! I must have gone through 30 of the suckers over
> the years. Almost all of them were Stanley, some better than others.
> Most knives hold five extra blades and there are several ways to change
> blades. Some knives have to be opened with a screwdriver to change the
> blade. Others have a button you push to release the blade and a
> swingout holder for the spare blades, and the new blade is inserted in
> the front of the knife. Stanley must have had ten different versions
> of utility knives in all.
>
> I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
> less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
> across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
> http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh
>
> What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
> front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
> position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
> is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
> seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
> over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>
> It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
> fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
> making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a roof
> into the ivy.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be interested.
>
> R

I found a similar one in a "multi pack" at Home Depot. I reload the
used blade in reverse to utilize the other side.

Tom M.

t

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 12:08 PM


Robatoy wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
> > over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>
> "JUST" a utility knife? I'm always lobbing the ends of silicon tubes and
> cutting stuff. I have tried dozens of 'new' ideas...and they always
> sucked. Back to ol' Stanley. Utility knives are a staple in my
> repertoire.
>
> Thanks for the URL.

Mine too. It's pretty much much part of my Saturday "uniform". I throw
on the old jeans, the work boots and the utility knife in the back
pocket.

It's kind of like an unbrella - If you don't take it with you, you're
guaranteed to need it.

vv

"volts500"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 12:36 PM


No wrote:

> I probably have a half dozen at various places in my shop. I probably
> actually own twice that many but don't know where they are. I am inclinded
> to go the simple route. My utility knife that can open for blade changes w/o
> a screwdrive doesn't really hold the blade too well. The one that holds best
> is the cheapes but doesn't retract. Has anyone trided the folding variety?

Yep, I've had one for over a year. Best razor knife that I've ever
had. Can't go back to a regular razor knife now.

> I
> have one. The folding mechanisim is a bit stiff. If I could open it one
> handed like my Spyderco pocket knife it would certainly be a winner. here is
> one brand http://www.superknife.com/ mine is a husky from the orange store.
> The super knife may be even better.

Rr

"Rich-out-West"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 1:18 PM

I once saw a blurb from OSHA stating that the most dangerous hand
tool was indeed the lowly utility knife. I also recall that the most
dangerous industrial tool is the forklift. This didn't surprise me.
In the factory I used to work in we had a guy killed by a forklift that
hit him as he was crossing through a walkway area.

Richard Johnson PE
Camano Island, WA

P.S. I happen to like the Stanley I have. It has a scissor-like handle
that unlocks with a button to allow blade changes. It stores five
blades inside and holds the active blade quite securly. Blade changes
take about 5 seconds. And like Rico's new toy, one of the best
features is it's bright yellow color. Makes it easy to find even in
bad light. I have a bunch of others, but I always seem to go back to
this one.

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 1:25 PM

Rich-out-West wrote:
>
> P.S. I happen to like the Stanley I have. It has a scissor-like handle
> that unlocks with a button to allow blade changes. It stores five
> blades inside and holds the active blade quite securly. Blade changes
> take about 5 seconds. And like Rico's new toy, one of the best
> features is it's bright yellow color. Makes it easy to find even in
> bad light. I have a bunch of others, but I always seem to go back to
> this one.

Toy?! Okay buddy, that's it - utility knives at two paces!

The Stanley knife you have is my old favorite, the one I misplaced (I
don't lose things ;), 'cepting mine was grey. It's a good knife. The
Lawson is better.

I'm always amazed that Stanley still sells knives that you need a tool
to open. Remember when you needed a screwdriver to open the computer
up? Dinosaur era technology.

R

JP

"Jay Pique"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 6:06 PM


RicodJour wrote:
> I'm always amazed that Stanley still sells knives that you need a tool
> to open. Remember when you needed a screwdriver to open the computer
> up? Dinosaur era technology.

I bought a Starrett utility knife a couple of weeks ago. It had good
heft and was very comfortable in the hand. It required a screwdriver
to change blades. Worse still, the thumb push blade retractor broke
right off after about 2 days. Maybe I can find a Mitutoyo one
someplace!

I'm going to check out the Lawson and the Lenox. I had the Stanley
that sort of split open and it crapped out on me too. I'm using an
ancient fixed blade Stanley (199?) right now. The screw's damn near
stripped clean! But you can't break it.

JP

JP

"Jay Pique"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 6:21 PM


Jay Pique wrote:

> I'm going to check out the Lawson and the Lenox. I had the Stanley
> that sort of split open and it crapped out on me too.

Correction - the knife that crapped out was one that had an automatic
blade changing mechanism. I think it might have been a Sheffield. It
was sort of bulky, and you'd pull the blade retractor mechanism all the
way back to grab a new blade. It worked rough from the get go, and
crapped out after a month or so of average (for a construction worker)
use.

JP

> I'm using an
> ancient fixed blade Stanley (199?) right now. The screw's damn near
> stripped clean! But you can't break it.
>
> JP

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 11:31 AM

Well, you'll be glad to know, the new autoloading utility knife works!
I drew some blood with it. ;)

R

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 12:57 PM


Oren wrote:
> On 24 Feb 2006 11:31:51 -0800, "RicodJour" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >Well, you'll be glad to know, the new autoloading utility knife works!
> >I drew some blood with it. ;)
>
> This puts you in the "no sharp instrument" filter......

But I thought _dull_ tools were the dangerous ones! ;)

I always get some nick or cut on every project. The lion's share being
little more than a scrape. But it happens on every project. Some
projects I'm cruising along nicely, nearing the end, and I haven't cut
myself. Ohmigod! It's going to happen, it's going to sneak up on me
and happen! Don't think for a moment that it's some sort of neuroses,
because the psycohses have killed them off. Yet, inevitably, it
happens.

The world is funny like that.

R

Nn

"Nichevo"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 9:53 PM

Its little off topic but a good while back I bought some blades, they
were called "blue blades" from Irwin. Anyways I have gone through
countless blades but these ones outlasted every other brand I have used
by at least 2x.They flex rather than break too, which I liked.

I don't drywall at all anymore and I have little use for blades. If I
did I would buy a lot though. As soon as they make something good it
usually gets yanked from the market since it cuts future margin. Either
that or they will slowly reduce the quality.

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

02/03/2006 9:46 AM

Dennis wrote:
> After reading your original message I went to EBay and looked over this
> vendors products. Bought the Lawson knife with side-loading blades and just
> got it a few minutes ago. It's everything he advertised and more. It's
> already become my favorite instrument for maiming and hacking up myself.
> Can't wait to see how much blood I will lose.
{snip}
>
> Thanks for sharing your find.
> Dennis

You're welcome. A large part of my posting was my dissatisfaction with
Stanley's marketing and product line. They are currently running ads
about their old knife which has a push button near the front to change
blades - they're promoting it as "automatic" and "new". It is neither.

Stanley is the 900 pound gorilla (you have a problem with that?!) and
does pretty much what it pleases. There is no reason for them to
update their product line in the "more boring" categories if there is
no market demand for them to do so. Hopefully, by making people aware
that there are alternatives to Stanley, I have helped in some small
way.

R

PS I'm not a Stanley basher. I have a large collection of antique
Stanley tools, some of which are daily users, and it would still be a
chore to wrest them from my cold, dead hands.

t

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

03/03/2006 3:10 PM


RayV wrote:
> I'm with you. I have three Stanley 99Es and have no interest in
> changing to the 'new & improved' knives with the rubber handles and
> swiveling heads.
>
> I also have an old Hyde knife I like but have been unable to find
> replacement blades because it requires the kind with a hole in the
> middle.

Ray, I've found my local independent paint store to have the best
selection of utility knives, including Hyde. In fact I bought a Hyde
there last summer....so you might head over to such a store, if one
exists in your area. It's a nice knife

BC

"Boots Crofoot"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/04/2006 7:31 PM

sounds to me that you are not using common sense in the use
of the tool???
"Phil Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...


--
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Ideas are bullet proof.
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I teach Technical Theatre and Set Construction. I always
>> tell my
>> students that the Stanley Knife is the most dangerous
tool
>> in the shop.
>> The danger of the tool is inversely porportonial to the
>> amount of noise
>> it makes. I have seen a few horrific injuries with a
table
>> saw or a
>> radial arm, but I have seen more injuries with a stanley
>> knife than any
>> other tool.
>
> Interesting theory. I've always heard you have to watch
out
> for the
> quiet ones, but I assumed they were talking about people!
>
> My utility knife did a nifty self-filet on my left thumb
> around 3 AM
> one morning as I was trying to finish some work that was
> going to be
> photographed the next day. I just squeezed the cut shut,
> taped it up
> and kept working. It healed just fine...although there is
a
> little
> less sensitivity in one area, so I know I got a nerve.
Or
> the time
> the hook blade slipped while cutting carpet, went through
my
> shoe and
> got my toe. Or the time... You get the idea.
>
> R


That stanley jobbie is dangerous for sure... the handle
might
be one of the problems. I just got Husky's folding
utility
knife at home depot, thin, good looking, with a belt clip
and
a heavily grooved surface near the blade .. it doesnt store
blades though. Blade changing is by two levers, one to
unlock
and the other to expose the blade, you just drop another one
in.

not bad..but not as slick as the one you got with the
magzine
and slide out gismo.

This knife is small and safe enough folded with the belt
clip
that you are more likely to have it with you when you need
one.

I carry a range of leatherman knives also, the bigger ones
and
the one with a small vice grip plier built into it. Useful
for grabbing small nuts and bolts etc... I use those many
times a day, but not for the same things a utility knife is
good for.



Phil Scott
>




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Chris Friesen

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 9:05 AM

Leon wrote:

> I have switched after trying all the single blade knives to the "break off
> the end to renew the tip style utility knife".

I use the same type. Mine is an Olfa with the rubber back for a bit
more grip.

If you're really cheap (or have run out of blades) you can re-hone the
blades a couple times.

Chris

ww

willshak

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

25/02/2006 7:53 AM

JerryD(upstateNY) wrote:
> Home Depot has a nice knife.
> It's like a lock back jacknife but with a replaceable blade.
> The blades are regular utility blades.
> This knife on ebay isn't exactly like the one I have but it will give you an
> idea of what it looks like.
> Because it folds up, I carry it in my pocket all the time.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/UTILITY-KNIFE-POCKET-KNIFE-NEW-W-EXTRA-RAZORS_W0QQitemZ7592453539QQcategoryZ46578QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>

http://tinyurl.com/r8poc

--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 6:11 AM

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 05:46:02 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
"Matt Barrow" <[email protected]> quickly quoth:

>
>"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Interesting theory. I've always heard you have to watch out for the
>> quiet ones, but I assumed they were talking about people!
>>
>> My utility knife did a nifty self-filet on my left thumb around 3 AM
>> one morning as I was trying to finish some work that was going to be
>> photographed the next day. I just squeezed the cut shut, taped it up
>> and kept working. It healed just fine...although there is a little
>> less sensitivity in one area, so I know I got a nerve. Or the time
>> the hook blade slipped while cutting carpet, went through my shoe and
>> got my toe. Or the time... You get the idea.
>
>Yeah...we get the idea: you're a klutz! :~)

I'm the same way, and we're not klutzes. These little mishaps occur
every 100k movements no matter what.

If you're not movin', you're not bleedin', bubba.

When I'm in the shop, my focus is on the project, not my legs, etc. I
find all sorts of splinters/abrasions in/on my shins and arms which I
don't recall receiving because I was absorbed in the project. They're
all minor and they happen during wooddorking, metalworking, stone
work, pruning, weeding, mowing, welding, and every other task, like
restringing a guitar (ever poke yourself with a wire?) and they happen
only at about 100,000 movements.


--
It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
--Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

j

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 12:02 PM

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:47:54 -0800, Oren <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 24 Feb 2006 11:31:51 -0800, "RicodJour" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Well, you'll be glad to know, the new autoloading utility knife works!
>>I drew some blood with it. ;)
>
>This puts you in the "no sharp instrument" filter......
>
I'm trying to think how many times I have cut myself with a utility knife and it
must be at least a dozen times maybe even two dozen. Only once seriously but
these are nasty tools.
The Olfa allows you to leave 3 inches of razor sharp blade exposed. Great for
cutting insulation batts but very dangerous as well. The upside of an Olfa is
you always have a sharp point due to the snap off blade meaning it doesn't slide
across surfaces an attack you like the regular utility knife blades.

Oo

Oren

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 12:39 PM

On 22 Feb 2006 22:08:29 -0800, "RicodJour" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be interested.


I've been using one like in this link for a couple years, nice in the
back pocket( no blade storage ). It's been abused and loosened and
then tightened up. I think newer versions "might" be better, but
haven't needed a newer one. I'm really not allowed around "sharp"
items.......

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS/EN_US/jsearch/product.jsp?pn=165257


Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

Nn

"No"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 4:40 PM

"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, a utility knife isn't the sexiest tool in the toolbox, but it's
> damn...errr....utile! I must have gone through 30 of the suckers over
> the years. Almost all of them were Stanley, some better than others.
> Most knives hold five extra blades and there are several ways to change
> blades. Some knives have to be opened with a screwdriver to change the
> blade. Others have a button you push to release the blade and a
> swingout holder for the spare blades, and the new blade is inserted in
> the front of the knife. Stanley must have had ten different versions
> of utility knives in all.
>
> I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
> less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
> across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
> http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh
>
> What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
> front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
> position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
> is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
> seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
> over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>
> It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
> fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
> making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a roof
> into the ivy.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be interested.
>
> R
>

I probably have a half dozen at various places in my shop. I probably
actually own twice that many but don't know where they are. I am inclinded
to go the simple route. My utility knife that can open for blade changes w/o
a screwdrive doesn't really hold the blade too well. The one that holds best
is the cheapes but doesn't retract. Has anyone trided the folding variety? I
have one. The folding mechanisim is a bit stiff. If I could open it one
handed like my Spyderco pocket knife it would certainly be a winner. here is
one brand http://www.superknife.com/ mine is a husky from the orange store.
The super knife may be even better.

j

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 10:14 AM


The only one worth a damn IMO. Dangerous as hell because of the long blade but
strong like ox and always sharp. I have used the same one for a couple decades
now. I even have 6 stitches in my thumb from it . My only serious work related
injury.

http://www.danielsmith.com/catalog/products/?T1=172010008

EB

Ed B

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 8:52 PM

dgadams wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:40:41 +0100, No wrote:
>
>> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Okay, a utility knife isn't the sexiest tool in the toolbox, but it's
>>> damn...errr....utile! I must have gone through 30 of the suckers over
>>> the years. Almost all of them were Stanley, some better than others.
>>> Most knives hold five extra blades and there are several ways to change
>>> blades. Some knives have to be opened with a screwdriver to change the
>>> blade. Others have a button you push to release the blade and a
>>> swingout holder for the spare blades, and the new blade is inserted in
>>> the front of the knife. Stanley must have had ten different versions
>>> of utility knives in all.
>>>
>>> I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
>>> less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
>>> across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
>>> http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh
>>>
>>> What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
>>> front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
>>> position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
>>> is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
>>> seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
>>> over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>>>
>>> It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
>>> fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
>>> making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a roof
>>> into the ivy.
>>>
>>> Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be interested.
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>> I probably have a half dozen at various places in my shop. I probably
>> actually own twice that many but don't know where they are. I am inclinded
>> to go the simple route. My utility knife that can open for blade changes w/o
>> a screwdrive doesn't really hold the blade too well. The one that holds best
>> is the cheapes but doesn't retract. Has anyone trided the folding variety? I
>> have one. The folding mechanisim is a bit stiff. If I could open it one
>> handed like my Spyderco pocket knife it would certainly be a winner. here is
>> one brand http://www.superknife.com/ mine is a husky from the orange store.
>> The super knife may be even better.
>
> I got mad the other day when I couldn't find my utility knife so I popped
> down to the local borg and bout several knives. My favorite is currently
> a sheffield folding knife, but I also got a husky folding knife with built
> in blade storage that seems nice. I also found a mini sheffield folding
> knife and some mini blades that is great as my everyday letter and box
> opener. I still have (somewhere) a stanley utility that I've used for
> years, but now I've got a knife everywhere. The office, the shop, my shop
> apron, the electronics toolbox etc. etc. Thank goodness the wife and kids
> have no interest in tools and leave my stuff alone or I'd have to buy even
> more knives.
>
> D.G. Adams
>
Try the utility knife from Lennox(gold series)
http://www.lenoxsaw.com/utility.htm
It is by far the best utility knife I have used. I rarely have a blade
slip out of the tip. The only downside is that you have to use Lennox
blades to be most effective

Lr

"Leon"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 2:16 PM


"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Snip

> What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
> front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
> position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
> is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
> seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
> over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>
> It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
> fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
> making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a roof
> into the ivy.

I have switched after trying all the single blade knives to the "break off
the end to renew the tip style utility knife". It has a slide button for
positioning the blade that also locks the blade in place when you quit
pushing or pulling. Best utility knife I have ever owned. Blades are cheap
considering that you renew each blade 8 to 10 times and changing blades is a
10 second job.

md

mac davis

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 10:21 AM

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:27:43 -0500, Robatoy <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Then you pick up a nice tool with some
>> heft to it, and it just feels better in the hand.
>
>I feel that way every time I take a whiz.
>.
you hold a box cutter in your other hand when you pee??

Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

MO

Mike O.

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 9:33 PM

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:31:32 -0500, Robatoy <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"JUST" a utility knife? I'm always lobbing the ends of silicon tubes and
>cutting stuff. I have tried dozens of 'new' ideas...and they always
>sucked. Back to ol' Stanley. Utility knives are a staple in my
>repertoire.

I've tried about all of them too and always went back to the generic
Stanley knife. A year ago last Christmas I was given one of the
Sheffield (made in China) folding utility knives and I think it's
great. I folds like a lock back pocket knife so you have to open it
like that too. I took me a while to get used to that.
It holds 5 blades in the handle and you can change them without any
tools. I've seen it branded by several of the generic tool brands
too.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=33257-16878-12119

I carry it in my tool belt and it gets used daily. I wondered if it
would hold up to everyday use for a year but it's made longer than
that.

Mike O.

Oo

Oren

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 11:47 AM

On 24 Feb 2006 11:31:51 -0800, "RicodJour" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Well, you'll be glad to know, the new autoloading utility knife works!
>I drew some blood with it. ;)

This puts you in the "no sharp instrument" filter......


Orne
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

Jj

"JerryD\(upstateNY\)"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

25/04/2006 11:46 AM

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"Upscale"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

25/02/2006 4:45 AM

"mg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> i have been a victum of some of stanelys crap knives, they have good
> ones and they have complete junk models.

Haven't see it mentioned, but I have a full sized utility knife that uses
snap off blades like the smaller Olfa knife. I don't always use it whenever
a knife is needed, but when I'm doing a lot of cutting like slicing up
leather, it's handy to be able to snap off 1/2" of blade and have a new edge
for immediate use. Works out a quite a bit faster and cheaper than replacing
a number of regular utility blades.

SB

"Steve B"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 8:03 AM


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I teach Technical Theatre and Set Construction. I always tell my
> students that the Stanley Knife is the most dangerous tool in the shop.
> The danger of the tool is inversely porportonial to the amount of noise
> it makes. I have seen a few horrific injuries with a table saw or a
> radial arm, but I have seen more injuries with a stanley knife than any
> other tool.
>

The most dangerous tool in the box is a "Bloody Mary." That is a utility
knife that uses a double edge carpet blade. The blade stays out because it
is meant to. You can set it to stay out at an adjustable distance so that
you can cut carpet to a specific depth. I have seen more injuries with
those, and they are always very bloody.

Just MHO from hours and hours and hours of laying carpet for conventions.

Steve

Dn

"Dennis"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

02/03/2006 4:55 PM

After reading your original message I went to EBay and looked over this
vendors products. Bought the Lawson knife with side-loading blades and just
got it a few minutes ago. It's everything he advertised and more. It's
already become my favorite instrument for maiming and hacking up myself.
Can't wait to see how much blood I will lose.

Seems to be heavier built than a Stanley Knife, has some rubber coating for
grip, little door pops open on the side to side-load a pack of blades (comes
with 6, 1 in the carrier and 5 in the storage drawer.) Wording on storage
door indicates 5 blades in storage is max.

Removing a dull blade is easy, just press a button in the front and the old
blade pulls right out. Slide the blade carrier back and fwd again and it
loads a new fresh blade (total time to load a new blade is 3-5 seconds,
including removing the old one). Can turn the old blade front-to-back and
pop it back in to use the sharp end.

Also bought a box of 10 packs of 3-blade (30 total) off same seller as knife
(Cripe Distributing). Has Lenox edge, shatter-resistant, bi-metal, suppose
to last 3x longer, for $7. Haven't used them yet, but they look like
excellent quality.

All-in-all very well satisfied with utility knife and very highly recommend
it. Always hated having to use a screwdriver to open the Stanley Knife and
put new blades in.
Here's the vendor's EBay store, seems to carry all kinds of utility knives
and other tools:
http://stores.ebay.com/Cripe-Distributing

Thanks for sharing your find.
Dennis


"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Okay, a utility knife isn't the sexiest tool in the toolbox, but it's
> damn...errr....utile! I must have gone through 30 of the suckers over
> the years. Almost all of them were Stanley, some better than others.
> Most knives hold five extra blades and there are several ways to change
> blades. Some knives have to be opened with a screwdriver to change the
> blade. Others have a button you push to release the blade and a
> swingout holder for the spare blades, and the new blade is inserted in
> the front of the knife. Stanley must have had ten different versions
> of utility knives in all.
>
> I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
> less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
> across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
> http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh
>
> What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
> front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
> position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
> is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
> seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
> over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>
> It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
> fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
> making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a roof
> into the ivy.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be interested.
>
> R
>

Ii

Ignoramus22178

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 8:11 PM

I always have my utility knife with me when I am at home.

i

NW

"New Wave Dave"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 2:37 PM


"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
> less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I
> ran
> across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
> http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh

LeGrande O'range sells a very similar (same?) knife under their
HUSKY brand. I've had one for a couple of years now. It's bulkier than
most and the blade in use has a bad habit of releasing itself when the
cut encounters enough resistance.
Like you, I'm searching for the ultimate utility knife.
--
"New Wave" Dave In Houston

ER

Enoch Root

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

11/04/2006 7:17 PM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:45:17 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>"mg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>>>i have been a victum of some of stanelys crap knives, they have good
>>>ones and they have complete junk models.
>>
>>Haven't see it mentioned,
>
>
>
>>but I have a full sized utility knife that uses
>>snap off blades like the smaller Olfa knife.
>
>
> That too much tool for a little man like you Skippy.
> I have one as well.
> But I actually know how to use it.

Aw, look. Upscale has a new friend.

er
--
email not valid

Dn

"Dennis"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

03/03/2006 10:59 PM

Shipping was $4.50 for one, + $1 for each additional. Don't know what your
sales tax is, but ours is 6%. Local would sell it for retail, then add 6% so
I'm still ahead. Haven't seen them local, but I would check at Lowe's and
Menards.

>
> These are not available locally? Just a personal thing with me - I can't
> pay 2x, 1.5x, whatever for something because of shipping.65

JB

Joe Barta

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 9:45 AM

[email protected] wrote:

> I teach Technical Theatre and Set Construction. I always tell my
> students that the Stanley Knife is the most dangerous tool in the
> shop. The danger of the tool is inversely porportonial to the
> amount of noise it makes. I have seen a few horrific injuries with
> a table saw or a radial arm, but I have seen more injuries with a
> stanley knife than any other tool.
>

Count me among the injuries. Once, in my late teens I was cutting open
boxes and accidently cut open my hand and wrist... about 15 stitches.
Hit a vein just right and blood exploded out of my arm. Almost
completely severed a tendon. I was actually pretty lucky. That wrist
is still a little more fragile than the other. Yeah, those things will
hurt you ;-)

Joe Barta

AB

Al Bundy

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 12:00 AM

"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> [email protected] wrote:
>> I teach Technical Theatre and Set Construction. I always tell my
>> students that the Stanley Knife is the most dangerous tool in the
>> shop. The danger of the tool is inversely porportonial to the amount
>> of noise it makes. I have seen a few horrific injuries with a table
>> saw or a radial arm, but I have seen more injuries with a stanley
>> knife than any other tool.
>
> Interesting theory. I've always heard you have to watch out for the
> quiet ones, but I assumed they were talking about people!
>
> My utility knife did a nifty self-filet on my left thumb around 3 AM
> one morning as I was trying to finish some work that was going to be
> photographed the next day. I just squeezed the cut shut, taped it up
> and kept working. It healed just fine...although there is a little
> less sensitivity in one area, so I know I got a nerve. Or the time
> the hook blade slipped while cutting carpet, went through my shoe and
> got my toe. Or the time... You get the idea.
>
> R
>


Is it story time? Oh boy!

So a month ago or so I'm screwing new hinges on some old redone cabinet
doors. Damn soft metal screw snaps off. Gotta get it out. Screw can only
go in this spot to match things. Start digging out so I can plug with
wood. Using chisel,screwdriver, ice pick. OK, Mr. Icepick slips and I
feel jab in left palm. Dammit, I instantly think blood is gonna get all
over fresh white doors and I wanna finish this. Look at palm. Amazing.
Hole is there. Nothing coming out. Great. But now I see blood dripping
from the bottom of my hand. Still looking at hole in palm. Dry as a
bone. WTF?. Flip hand over. There's the leak in the icepick exit hole on
the back of my hand.

AB

Al Bundy

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 10:42 PM

Oren <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:02:00 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>I'm trying to think how many times I have cut myself with a utility
>>knife and it must be at least a dozen times maybe even two dozen. Only
>>once seriously but these are nasty tools.
>
> I've cut myself many times: the worse was slipping on the edge of a
> jagged tile, give me a knife - won't hurt so bad.
>
> I saved my fingers early by leaving one butcher shop apprentice job as
> a teen.
>
>
> Oren
> "My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
> and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
> excused from saving Universes."


Try hopping an 8ft rusty barbed wire chain link fence as a kid and the
wire snaps as you go over the top holding it between the barbs. You fall
and natural tendance is to grasp hands closed. First time I saw my bones
not on an x-ray.

OK, so it's not a tool story. Made ya cringe though didn't it?


p.s. Yep, just looked. Scar still there from wrist to almost tip of
middle finder.

AB

Al Bundy

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 11:34 PM

Oren <[email protected]> wrote in news:0aurv1966mbpneegugheekkkekopu68q5g@
4ax.com:

> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:27:43 -0500, Robatoy <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Then you pick up a nice tool with some
>>> heft to it, and it just feels better in the hand.
>>
>>I feel that way every time I take a whiz.
>
> And then you woke up.
>
> Oren
> "My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
> and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
> excused from saving Universes."


Woke up at deli from a daydream holding knockwurst...

AB

Al Bundy

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 11:40 PM

"Rich-out-West" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I once saw a blurb from OSHA stating that the most dangerous hand
> tool was indeed the lowly utility knife. I also recall that the most
> dangerous industrial tool is the forklift. This didn't surprise me.
> In the factory I used to work in we had a guy killed by a forklift that
> hit him as he was crossing through a walkway area.
>
> Richard Johnson PE
> Camano Island, WA
>
> P.S. I happen to like the Stanley I have. It has a scissor-like handle
> that unlocks with a button to allow blade changes. It stores five
> blades inside and holds the active blade quite securly. Blade changes
> take about 5 seconds. And like Rico's new toy, one of the best
> features is it's bright yellow color. Makes it easy to find even in
> bad light. I have a bunch of others, but I always seem to go back to
> this one.
>

Most frequent kitchen accident?
.
.
.
.
.
.
per ER stats, hand slices from bagel cutting.

AB

Al Bundy

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

02/03/2006 9:37 PM

"Dennis" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:QrFNf.39690$pE4.10311@trnddc04:

> After reading your original message I went to EBay and looked over
> this vendors products. Bought the Lawson knife with side-loading
> blades and just got it a few minutes ago. It's everything he
> advertised and more. It's already become my favorite instrument for
> maiming and hacking up myself. Can't wait to see how much blood I will
> lose.
>
> Seems to be heavier built than a Stanley Knife, has some rubber
> coating for grip, little door pops open on the side to side-load a
> pack of blades (comes with 6, 1 in the carrier and 5 in the storage
> drawer.) Wording on storage door indicates 5 blades in storage is max.
>
> Removing a dull blade is easy, just press a button in the front and
> the old blade pulls right out. Slide the blade carrier back and fwd
> again and it loads a new fresh blade (total time to load a new blade
> is 3-5 seconds, including removing the old one). Can turn the old
> blade front-to-back and pop it back in to use the sharp end.
>
> Also bought a box of 10 packs of 3-blade (30 total) off same seller as
> knife (Cripe Distributing). Has Lenox edge, shatter-resistant,
> bi-metal, suppose to last 3x longer, for $7. Haven't used them yet,
> but they look like excellent quality.
>
> All-in-all very well satisfied with utility knife and very highly
> recommend it. Always hated having to use a screwdriver to open the
> Stanley Knife and put new blades in.
> Here's the vendor's EBay store, seems to carry all kinds of utility
> knives and other tools:
> http://stores.ebay.com/Cripe-Distributing
>
> Thanks for sharing your find.
> Dennis
>
>
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Okay, a utility knife isn't the sexiest tool in the toolbox, but it's
>> damn...errr....utile! I must have gone through 30 of the suckers
>> over the years. Almost all of them were Stanley, some better than
>> others. Most knives hold five extra blades and there are several ways
>> to change blades. Some knives have to be opened with a screwdriver
>> to change the blade. Others have a button you push to release the
>> blade and a swingout holder for the spare blades, and the new blade
>> is inserted in the front of the knife. Stanley must have had ten
>> different versions of utility knives in all.
>>
>> I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
>> less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I
>> ran across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
>> http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh
>>
>> What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on
>> the front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully
>> extended position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a
>> new blade is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less
>> than two seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_
>> of blades over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>>
>> It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
>> fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
>> making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a
>> roof into the ivy.
>>
>> Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be
>> interested.
>>
>> R
>>
>
>


These are not available locally? Just a personal thing with me - I can't
pay 2x, 1.5x, whatever for something because of shipping.

MB

"Matt Barrow"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 5:46 AM


"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Interesting theory. I've always heard you have to watch out for the
> quiet ones, but I assumed they were talking about people!
>
> My utility knife did a nifty self-filet on my left thumb around 3 AM
> one morning as I was trying to finish some work that was going to be
> photographed the next day. I just squeezed the cut shut, taped it up
> and kept working. It healed just fine...although there is a little
> less sensitivity in one area, so I know I got a nerve. Or the time
> the hook blade slipped while cutting carpet, went through my shoe and
> got my toe. Or the time... You get the idea.
>

Yeah...we get the idea: you're a klutz! :~)

Oo

Oren

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 6:09 PM

On 24 Feb 2006 12:57:42 -0800, "RicodJour" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>Oren wrote:
>> On 24 Feb 2006 11:31:51 -0800, "RicodJour" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Well, you'll be glad to know, the new autoloading utility knife works!
>> >I drew some blood with it. ;)
>>
>> This puts you in the "no sharp instrument" filter......
>
>But I thought _dull_ tools were the dangerous ones! ;)
>
>I always get some nick or cut on every project. The lion's share being
>little more than a scrape. But it happens on every project. Some
>projects I'm cruising along nicely, nearing the end, and I haven't cut
>myself. Ohmigod! It's going to happen, it's going to sneak up on me
>and happen! Don't think for a moment that it's some sort of neuroses,
>because the psycohses have killed them off. Yet, inevitably, it
>happens.
>
>The world is funny like that.

It's why I' not allowed the devices. I have a collection knives and
supervise myself, little does it help.

Oren

"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

25/02/2006 5:33 PM


"Mike O." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I've tried about all of them too and always went back to the generic
> Stanley knife. A year ago last Christmas I was given one of the
> Sheffield (made in China) folding utility knives and I think it's
> great. I folds like a lock back pocket knife so you have to open it
> like that too. I took me a while to get used to that.
> It holds 5 blades in the handle and you can change them without any
> tools. I've seen it branded by several of the generic tool brands
> too.
>
>
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=33257-16878-12119
>
> I carry it in my tool belt and it gets used daily. I wondered if it
> would hold up to everyday use for a year but it's made longer than
> that.
>

Now that's the first utility knife I've seen yet that could possibly
convince me to move away from my trusty Stanley knives. I've tried
different retractable and always went back to my basic Stanley. I liked the
feel in my hand and I didn't have to worry about the blade sliding back in
during use, or the mechanism gumming up and working hard.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

MO

Mike O.

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

25/02/2006 11:28 PM

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:33:02 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Now that's the first utility knife I've seen yet that could possibly
>convince me to move away from my trusty Stanley knives. I've tried
>different retractable and always went back to my basic Stanley. I liked the
>feel in my hand and I didn't have to worry about the blade sliding back in
>during use, or the mechanism gumming up and working hard.

They make a single blade version too (that's a little cheaper) but I
like being able to change blades on the run.

Mike O.

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 12:27 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Then you pick up a nice tool with some
> heft to it, and it just feels better in the hand.

I feel that way every time I take a whiz.
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Oh come ON!.. SOMEbody had to say that!

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 1:31 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
> over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.

"JUST" a utility knife? I'm always lobbing the ends of silicon tubes and
cutting stuff. I have tried dozens of 'new' ideas...and they always
sucked. Back to ol' Stanley. Utility knives are a staple in my
repertoire.

Thanks for the URL.

Rd

Robatoy

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

26/02/2006 1:40 AM

In article <[email protected]>,
Al Bundy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oren <[email protected]> wrote in news:0aurv1966mbpneegugheekkkekopu68q5g@
> 4ax.com:
>
> > On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:27:43 -0500, Robatoy <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>In article <[email protected]>,
> >> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Then you pick up a nice tool with some
> >>> heft to it, and it just feels better in the hand.
> >>
> >>I feel that way every time I take a whiz.
> >
> > And then you woke up.
> >
> > Oren
> > "My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
> > and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
> > excused from saving Universes."
>
>
> Woke up at deli from a daydream holding knockwurst...

LMAO

MB

Mike Berger

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 10:31 AM

Does it use standard blades?

RicodJour wrote:

> I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
> less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
> across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
> http://xxxxxxxxxx
>
> What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
> front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
> position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
> is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
> seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
> over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.

PS

"Phil Scott"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/04/2006 1:42 PM



--
Phil Scott
Ideas are bullet proof.
"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I teach Technical Theatre and Set Construction. I always
>> tell my
>> students that the Stanley Knife is the most dangerous tool
>> in the shop.
>> The danger of the tool is inversely porportonial to the
>> amount of noise
>> it makes. I have seen a few horrific injuries with a table
>> saw or a
>> radial arm, but I have seen more injuries with a stanley
>> knife than any
>> other tool.
>
> Interesting theory. I've always heard you have to watch out
> for the
> quiet ones, but I assumed they were talking about people!
>
> My utility knife did a nifty self-filet on my left thumb
> around 3 AM
> one morning as I was trying to finish some work that was
> going to be
> photographed the next day. I just squeezed the cut shut,
> taped it up
> and kept working. It healed just fine...although there is a
> little
> less sensitivity in one area, so I know I got a nerve. Or
> the time
> the hook blade slipped while cutting carpet, went through my
> shoe and
> got my toe. Or the time... You get the idea.
>
> R


That stanley jobbie is dangerous for sure... the handle might
be one of the problems. I just got Husky's folding utility
knife at home depot, thin, good looking, with a belt clip and
a heavily grooved surface near the blade .. it doesnt store
blades though. Blade changing is by two levers, one to unlock
and the other to expose the blade, you just drop another one
in.

not bad..but not as slick as the one you got with the magzine
and slide out gismo.

This knife is small and safe enough folded with the belt clip
that you are more likely to have it with you when you need
one.

I carry a range of leatherman knives also, the bigger ones and
the one with a small vice grip plier built into it. Useful
for grabbing small nuts and bolts etc... I use those many
times a day, but not for the same things a utility knife is
good for.



Phil Scott
>

Cs

"CW"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 4:05 AM

Keep a folder in my pocket at all times. Use mainly at work. With 3000
square feet of shop, if it wasn't in my pocket I would never find it.

"No" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Has anyone trided the folding variety? I
> have one. The folding mechanisim is a bit stiff. If I could open it one
> handed like my Spyderco pocket knife it would certainly be a winner. here
is
> one brand http://www.superknife.com/ mine is a husky from the orange
store.
> The super knife may be even better.
>
>

J

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

25/02/2006 9:41 AM

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:45:17 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"mg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> i have been a victum of some of stanelys crap knives, they have good
>> ones and they have complete junk models.
>
>Haven't see it mentioned, but I have a full sized utility knife that uses
>snap off blades like the smaller Olfa knife. I don't always use it whenever
>a knife is needed, but when I'm doing a lot of cutting like slicing up
>leather, it's handy to be able to snap off 1/2" of blade and have a new edge
>for immediate use. Works out a quite a bit faster and cheaper than replacing
>a number of regular utility blades.
>
The Olfa blade is thicker as well and from what I've been told holds an edge
much longer than most blades. I have a Mastercraft that uses regular 2 point
blades that is very easy change but rarely use it.

This my Olfa very heavy duty and scary as hell with the blade extended.
http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/olfablades_1876_3789649
* Largest and heaviest snap-off knife on the market
* Uses blades that are 40% larger than conventional knife blades
* Unbreakable ABS handle
* Stainless-steel blade channel
* Ratcheting wheel lock
* Anti-slip rubber grip
* Includes one blade

LD

Lobby Dosser

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 2:09 AM

Ed B <[email protected]> wrote:

> Try the utility knife from Lennox(gold series)
> http://www.lenoxsaw.com/utility.htm
> It is by far the best utility knife I have used. I rarely have a blade
> slip out of the tip. The only downside is that you have to use Lennox
> blades to be most effective
>
>

Got 5 free blades (plus a lot of spam) from Irvin and tried the first one
today. Really good! Very sharp, bends but does not break and seems to
retain an edge pretty well. Don't know what they cost in comparison to
others, but I'll look for them the next time I need blades.

Oo

Oren

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

24/02/2006 6:05 PM

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:02:00 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>I'm trying to think how many times I have cut myself with a utility knife and it
>must be at least a dozen times maybe even two dozen. Only once seriously but
>these are nasty tools.

I've cut myself many times: the worse was slipping on the edge of a
jagged tile, give me a knife - won't hurt so bad.

I saved my fingers early by leaving one butcher shop apprentice job as
a teen.


Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."

j

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

11/04/2006 5:05 PM

On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:45:17 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"mg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> i have been a victum of some of stanelys crap knives, they have good
>> ones and they have complete junk models.
>
>Haven't see it mentioned,


>but I have a full sized utility knife that uses
>snap off blades like the smaller Olfa knife.

That too much tool for a little man like you Skippy.
I have one as well.
But I actually know how to use it.

Vw

"Verizon"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

08/03/2006 10:37 PM

They also sell them on EBay, $1.30 for a five pack.


> Ray, I've found my local independent paint store to have the best
> selection of utility knives, including Hyde. In fact I bought a Hyde
> there last summer....so you might head over to such a store, if one
> exists in your area. It's a nice knife
>

j

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

11/04/2006 7:54 PM

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:17:20 -0700, Enoch Root <[email protected]> wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:45:17 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"mg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>i have been a victum of some of stanelys crap knives, they have good
>>>>ones and they have complete junk models.
>>>
>>>Haven't see it mentioned,
>>
>>
>>
>>>but I have a full sized utility knife that uses
>>>snap off blades like the smaller Olfa knife.
>>
>>
>> That too much tool for a little man like you Skippy.
>> I have one as well.
>> But I actually know how to use it.
>
>Aw, look. Upscale has a new friend.
>
He does seem a bit lonely. That's trolls lot in life unfortunately.

I'm going to keep the poor soul company for a while.;-)

j

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 10:18 AM

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:05:23 -0600, Chris Friesen <[email protected]> wrote:

>Leon wrote:
>
>> I have switched after trying all the single blade knives to the "break off
>> the end to renew the tip style utility knife".
>
>I use the same type. Mine is an Olfa with the rubber back for a bit
>more grip.
>
Isn't it great. How do you break one of these. And that long blade can be very
handy for cutting Styrofoam or insulation batts. I couldn't live without my
Olfa.
I buy the big case of blades and they do me a year.


>If you're really cheap (or have run out of blades) you can re-hone the
>blades a couple times.
>
>Chris

dd

dgadams

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 6:17 PM

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:40:41 +0100, No wrote:

> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Okay, a utility knife isn't the sexiest tool in the toolbox, but it's
>> damn...errr....utile! I must have gone through 30 of the suckers over
>> the years. Almost all of them were Stanley, some better than others.
>> Most knives hold five extra blades and there are several ways to change
>> blades. Some knives have to be opened with a screwdriver to change the
>> blade. Others have a button you push to release the blade and a
>> swingout holder for the spare blades, and the new blade is inserted in
>> the front of the knife. Stanley must have had ten different versions
>> of utility knives in all.
>>
>> I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
>> less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
>> across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
>> http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh
>>
>> What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
>> front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
>> position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
>> is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
>> seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
>> over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.
>>
>> It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
>> fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
>> making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a roof
>> into the ivy.
>>
>> Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be interested.
>>
>> R
>>
>
> I probably have a half dozen at various places in my shop. I probably
> actually own twice that many but don't know where they are. I am inclinded
> to go the simple route. My utility knife that can open for blade changes w/o
> a screwdrive doesn't really hold the blade too well. The one that holds best
> is the cheapes but doesn't retract. Has anyone trided the folding variety? I
> have one. The folding mechanisim is a bit stiff. If I could open it one
> handed like my Spyderco pocket knife it would certainly be a winner. here is
> one brand http://www.superknife.com/ mine is a husky from the orange store.
> The super knife may be even better.

I got mad the other day when I couldn't find my utility knife so I popped
down to the local borg and bout several knives. My favorite is currently
a sheffield folding knife, but I also got a husky folding knife with built
in blade storage that seems nice. I also found a mini sheffield folding
knife and some mini blades that is great as my everyday letter and box
opener. I still have (somewhere) a stanley utility that I've used for
years, but now I've got a knife everywhere. The office, the shop, my shop
apron, the electronics toolbox etc. etc. Thank goodness the wife and kids
have no interest in tools and leave my stuff alone or I'd have to buy even
more knives.

D.G. Adams

Jj

"JerryD\(upstateNY\)"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

25/02/2006 8:29 AM

Home Depot has a nice knife.
It's like a lock back jacknife but with a replaceable blade.
The blades are regular utility blades.
This knife on ebay isn't exactly like the one I have but it will give you an
idea of what it looks like.
Because it folds up, I carry it in my pocket all the time.

http://cgi.ebay.com/UTILITY-KNIFE-POCKET-KNIFE-NEW-W-EXTRA-RAZORS_W0QQitemZ7592453539QQcategoryZ46578QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--
JerryD(upstateNY)



"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Okay, a utility knife isn't the sexiest tool in the toolbox, but it's
damn...errr....utile! I must have gone through 30 of the suckers over
the years. Almost all of them were Stanley, some better than others.
Most knives hold five extra blades and there are several ways to change
blades. Some knives have to be opened with a screwdriver to change the
blade. Others have a button you push to release the blade and a
swingout holder for the spare blades, and the new blade is inserted in
the front of the knife. Stanley must have had ten different versions
of utility knives in all.

I had one I liked and it went walkabout, so I was using my
less-than-favorite backup while I looked for a replacement. Then I ran
across this Lawson autoloading knife on eBay
http://tinyurl.com/mlcoh

What a great knife! The blade is removed by depressing a button on the
front of the knife in the usual way when it is in the fully extended
position. Then you pull back the blade retract button and a new blade
is automatically loaded and ready to go. It takes less than two
seconds to change a blade. I must have changed _thousands_ of blades
over the years and wish I'd found this years ago.

It's a little larger and heavier than most utility knives, which is
fine with me as it fits the hand better. It's also a bright yellow
making it easier to locate when it's misplaced or dropped off of a roof
into the ivy.

Anyway, just wanted to share that with anyone who might be interested.

R

j

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 10:23 AM

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:14:54 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

>
>The only one worth a damn IMO. Dangerous as hell because of the long blade but
>strong like ox and always sharp. I have used the same one for a couple decades
>now. I even have 6 stitches in my thumb from it . My only serious work related
>injury.
>
>http://www.danielsmith.com/catalog/products/?T1=172010008

I should add mine has a straight handle which is good because I'm left handed.
This new curved handle model would suck as it puts the rubber side of the knife
on the wrong side of your hand.
I had to modify the slider blade holding thingy on mines so I could put my
blades in backwards. It serves me well.

mm

mg

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

25/02/2006 4:35 AM

http://webapp.lawsonproducts.com/website/easyaskKeywordSearch.jsp

all of Lawson knives. including the op and another interesting one.

i have been a victum of some of stanelys crap knives, they have good
ones and they have complete junk models.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "RicodJour" on 22/02/2006 10:08 PM

23/02/2006 2:32 PM


"Joe Barta" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> Count me among the injuries. Once, in my late teens I was cutting open
> boxes and accidently cut open my hand and wrist... about 15 stitches.
> Hit a vein just right and blood exploded out of my arm. Almost
> completely severed a tendon. I was actually pretty lucky. That wrist
> is still a little more fragile than the other. Yeah, those things will
> hurt you ;-)
>
> Joe Barta

Hyde makes a knife good for cutting boxes. The blade self retracts and you
have to hold your thumb on it to keep the blade out. It extends enough to
go through the corrugated, but not enough for the major injury of a regular
knife. Our Workman's Comp insurance company was giving them out to promote
safety.


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