I'm very fond of the Ryobi ONE+ cordless power
tool chain. Any thoughts on that product line
from you professionals?
Only problem is, they are all "for indoor use".
Here in Sweden, and many other countries as
well I suppose, fall is virtually constant
rain. Winter is either snowing, raining or
snowy rain.
I'm thinking about mounting a parasol on a wood
horse or how does one usually get around it?
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 19:53:35 -0500, [email protected] wrote:
>On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 21:16:02 +0100, Emanuel Berg <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Clare Snyder wrote:
>>
>>> Most of my power tools,INCLUDING MY
>>> SNOWBLKOWER AND GENERATOR,SAY "NOT FOR INDOOR
>>> USE"
>>
>>You don't even have an indoor shovel?
>
>I think we're going to need one if this thread goes on much longer.
More likely a mucking fork
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 10:04:34 PM UTC-5, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> Markem wrote:
>
> >>> You don't even have an indoor shovel?
> >>
> >> I think we're going to need one if this
> >> thread goes on much longer.
> >
> > More likely a mucking fork
>
> What about tar, feathers, and torches?
> And a rope with the hangman's knot - by the
> way, does that come "cordless" as well?
>
> Aaanyway, I am amazed there isn't even one
> water proof drill driver for sale in the entire
> pitch-black capitalist world!
>
See page 18. Good to 500' depths.
http://www.stanleyinfrastructure.com/sites/stanleyhydraulic.com/files/pdf/DL07%20User%20Manual%202-2015%20V10.pdf
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 2:49:59 PM UTC-6, Emanuel Berg wrote:
=20
> However for lamps 3 and 4 I wonder if this hack
> might do it: you simply put them in a dry bag!
> Many of my dry bags are in one color or another,
> but they also have a transparent part, so you
> can get a reading what's inside the bag w/o
> opening it.
You are thinking too small. The batteries last a while with their lights, =
and if yours don't, get a bigger battery. Seal them in a clear FoodSaver b=
ag and have a waterproof seal. Many models of vacuum sealer don't require =
the bag to be drawn to a solid vacuum but can be sealed when you decide. C=
lear, heavy duty bags sold in all sizes, or you can make your own.
>=20
> Only question is how much this still with
> impair the strength as well as the range of
> the light flow?
How would anyone know unless they tried it themselves using the flashlights=
you specified? You should take a minute and do this yourself with the bag=
s you have in your country to see if it meets your requirements since no on=
e else can completely replicate your flashlight, its battery, the current l=
umen output of the unit, the bags you are using, etc. It really doesn't se=
em like it would take to long to walk over and get your flashlight and seal=
it in a bag and turn it on...
Robert=20
Thy Ryobi ONE+ line has a couple of lamps
and flashlights.
One is a camp light to have inside a tent,
probably with limited use for craftsmen, and
possibly also to campers who would like
a waterproof lamp with more lumens as well.
Another lamp is a futuristic-looking
flashlight, but with the same two deficiencies.
A third is a construction lamp. This one has
~2000 lumens and looks like a traditional lamp
on a Scaffolding. But this one isn't waterproof
either - I suppose the battery and/or the
lamp/battery interface is the Achilles' heel?
The fourth is also a powerful lamp of
~2000 lumens but this one looks like a hair
dryer. Not waterproof.
However for lamps 3 and 4 I wonder if this hack
might do it: you simply put them in a dry bag!
Many of my dry bags are in one color or another,
but they also have a transparent part, so you
can get a reading what's inside the bag w/o
opening it.
Only question is how much this still with
impair the strength as well as the range of
the light flow?
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J. Clarke wrote:
> Also
> https://nemopowertools.com/product/nemo-hammer-drill-socket/
> if you want electric.
Nemo Power Tools, how cute is that? :)
It is interesting that the tools most resistent
to water are themselves powered by water.
But I suppose power tools are on the contrary
not resistent but actually sensitive to
interference from other electromagnetic bodies?
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> Aaanyway, I am amazed there isn't even one
>> water proof drill driver for sale in the
>> entire pitch-black capitalist world!
>>
>
> See page 18. Good to 500' depths.
>
> http://www.stanleyinfrastructure.com/sites/stanleyhydraulic.com/files/pdf/DL07%20User%20Manual%202-2015%20V10.pdf
Yeah, thought it would... You got me worried
there for a second. OK, case closed.
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[email protected] wrote:
> If you are completely serious about trying to
> waterproof your tools, check this out.
> The method has been around for years, but it
> finally caught Popular Mechanic's eye, so
> they did a nice write up on it. NOTE: Doing
> this will kill void your warranty because you
> opened the tool case, but hey... so will
> allowing it to corrode from exposure
> to water.
>
> http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/tools/how-to/a19139/how-to-waterproof-your-cordless-power-tools/
Wow, very interesting, both story and link!
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Markem wrote:
>>> You don't even have an indoor shovel?
>>
>> I think we're going to need one if this
>> thread goes on much longer.
>
> More likely a mucking fork
What about tar, feathers, and torches?
And a rope with the hangman's knot - by the
way, does that come "cordless" as well?
Aaanyway, I am amazed there isn't even one
water proof drill driver for sale in the entire
pitch-black capitalist world!
Only way to get one is to follow the tutorial
in "Popular Mechanic"... :))
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[email protected] wrote:
>> Only question is how much this still with
>> impair the strength as well as the range of
>> the light flow?
>
> How would anyone know unless they tried it
> themselves using the flashlights
> you specified?
Well, that was a way of thinking about this,
not necessarily a question to which I expected
a definite answer...
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G Ross wrote:
> The charger is for indoor use. I have
> a chainsaw limb cutter, hedge trimmer, string
> trimmer and leaf blower powered by the One+
> battery. None are used indoors, but then it
> seldom snows in south Ga. and I have never
> been fond of working in the rain. For small
> jobs they sure beat stringing out an
> extension cord or yanking on a start rope.
I have a brushless drill driver which I used
recently to do a fence. I says "for indoor use"
in the manual.
I get it, tools are seldom "for outdoor use".
Still, that's where I use them.
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 06:31:23 +0100, Emanuel Berg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> Also
>> https://nemopowertools.com/product/nemo-hammer-drill-socket/
>> if you want electric.
>
>Nemo Power Tools, how cute is that? :)
>
>It is interesting that the tools most resistent
>to water are themselves powered by water.
??? If you mean hydraulic tools, they are not powered by water.
Hydraulic systems are generally oil-filled.
>But I suppose power tools are on the contrary
>not resistent but actually sensitive to
>interference from other electromagnetic bodies?
Electric tools are more likely to cause interference than be affected
by it.
Emanuel Berg wrote:
> I'm very fond of the Ryobi ONE+ cordless power
> tool chain. Any thoughts on that product line
> from you professionals?
>
> Only problem is, they are all "for indoor use".
> Here in Sweden, and many other countries as
> well I suppose, fall is virtually constant
> rain. Winter is either snowing, raining or
> snowy rain.
>
> I'm thinking about mounting a parasol on a wood
> horse or how does one usually get around it?
>
The charger is for indoor use. I have a chainsaw limb cutter, hedge
trimmer, string trimmer and leaf blower powered by the One+ battery.
None are used indoors, but then it seldom snows in south Ga. and I
have never been fond of working in the rain.
For small jobs they sure beat stringing out an extension cord or
yanking on a start rope.
--
G Ross
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 11:59:05 AM UTC-5, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> G Ross wrote:
>
> > The charger is for indoor use. I have
> > a chainsaw limb cutter, hedge trimmer, string
> > trimmer and leaf blower powered by the One+
> > battery. None are used indoors, but then it
> > seldom snows in south Ga. and I have never
> > been fond of working in the rain. For small
> > jobs they sure beat stringing out an
> > extension cord or yanking on a start rope.
>
> I have a brushless drill driver which I used
> recently to do a fence. I says "for indoor use"
> in the manual.
>
Corded power tools can be dangerous, inside or out. Yes, this was an outdoor incident,
but it could as easily have happened inside.
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/110467/MAN-ELECTROCUTED-WHILE-BUILDING-SWING-SET.html
Doubtful that a cordless tool would have been as big of an issue.
> I get it, tools are seldom "for outdoor use".
> Still, that's where I use them.
Well, I don't get it. Where is it stated that tools are seldom for outdoor use - other then in
your manual?
We'd have to go back to using hand tools to build our houses until they were closed up,
and only use power tools to finish the interior.
>
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 02:41:14 +0100, Emanuel Berg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>krw wrote:
>
>> They can, for an appropriate amount of money.
>
>OK, so what tools are those?
I said "can" not "do". People just don't use tools that way. Most
are smart enough to come in out of the rain. ;-)
>I'd like a drill driver in particular and then
>perhaps an angle grinder and some other tools
>as well, please :)
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 6:49:58 PM UTC-6, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> I'm very fond of the Ryobi ONE+ cordless power
> tool chain. Any thoughts on that product line
> from you professionals?
>=20
> Only problem is, they are all "for indoor use".
> Here in Sweden, and many other countries as
> well I suppose, fall is virtually constant
> rain. Winter is either snowing, raining or
> snowy rain.
As a full time professional, I have become quite fond of the Ryobi line of =
tools and find them to be a great value. I wait until I can get one of the=
ir sets for about 30-40% off and I am even happier. I bought my first set =
out of necessity (my personal tools were across town when I was facing a de=
adline) and have used the crap out of my first set for almost 4 years now. =
No failures! I let my employees or helpers use them and they get no speci=
al treatment from those guys.
We don't close up when it drizzles, rains, or much of anything else unless =
we have to. The RYOBIs I have all have been in use in the rain many times,=
drizzle more times than I can count. I don't recommend it, but it hasn't =
hurt them. If you get them damp under an awning, umbrella, or tarp if you n=
eed to work outside in the rain I doubt you will harm them. All I do for ma=
intenance is to spray a lot of WD40 on the end of the sawzall as the shoe h=
as rusted in place once or twice when the tool was stored improperly after =
attending to a water pipe leak.
I wipe off the outside of the metal parts of the tools, NEVER spray, with W=
D40 to keep them from rusting. Here's a tip I will give you that I discove=
red by accident. A few years ago I was caught in the rain while roofing a h=
ouse. We had several boxes of gun nails open to the rain while we picked u=
p the tools and secured the roof. With the nails were loaded into my truck=
and I was looking at about 100 bucks worth of nails that could rust and ca=
use jams in my guns. I sprayed them all down with a light coat of WD40, an=
d they stayed in the truck bed for another few days. No rust. Then I start=
ed to spray the nails and brads I keep in the truck to keep them from rusti=
ng. Great! But I noticed that when I sprayed the brads that are in the to=
ol drawer in my truck box, the screwdrivers, bits and other stuff by them d=
idn't rust either.
So as an experiment I sprayed down the nylon tool bags that I keep some of =
my tools in. (Ryobi comes with their own.) I spray them in and out, wait a =
day for them to dry, and it has virtually stopped all air exposure corrosio=
n, even when the tools are zipped up when damp.
If you are completely serious about trying to waterproof your tools, check =
this out. The method has been around for years, but it finally caught Popu=
lar Mechanic's eye, so they did a nice write up on it. NOTE: Doing this w=
ill kill void your warranty because you opened the tool case, but hey... so=
will allowing it to corrode from exposure to water.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/tools/how-to/a19139/how-to-waterproof-=
your-cordless-power-tools/
Robert
Emanuel Berg <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>> Where is it stated that tools are seldom for
>> outdoor use
>
> It is stated in the manual "for indoor use",
> which is common even for tools that you would
> think would have the most
> applications outdoors.
>
Most "manuals" for American-sold tools aren't about instruction or
education, they're about covering the manufacturer's hind ends. If it
breaks as you're using it outdoors, well they told you not to.
Just bring them in when you're done and you should be ok. Don't work in
the rain or falling snow if you don't have to.
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On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 02:19:31 +0100, Emanuel Berg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> If you're planning on working outdoors in the
>> wet, you're probably better off with
>> air tools.
>
>Why can't the manufacturers put over a plastic
>emballage to keep the damp out?
They can, for an appropriate amount of money. Remember, the tool has
to have some way of getting rid of heat, too. Keeping water out will
also keep air out. Plastic is a very poor conductor of heat.
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 21:16:02 +0100, Emanuel Berg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Clare Snyder wrote:
>
>> Most of my power tools,INCLUDING MY
>> SNOWBLKOWER AND GENERATOR,SAY "NOT FOR INDOOR
>> USE"
>
>You don't even have an indoor shovel?
I think we're going to need one if this thread goes on much longer.
On Wed, 03 Jan 2018 04:52:48 +0100, Emanuel Berg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>>> Aaanyway, I am amazed there isn't even one
>>> water proof drill driver for sale in the
>>> entire pitch-black capitalist world!
>>>
>>
>> See page 18. Good to 500' depths.
>>
>> http://www.stanleyinfrastructure.com/sites/stanleyhydraulic.com/files/pdf/DL07%20User%20Manual%202-2015%20V10.pdf
>
>Yeah, thought it would... You got me worried
>there for a second. OK, case closed.
Also https://nemopowertools.com/product/nemo-hammer-drill-socket/ if
you want electric.
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 22:21:43 +0100, Emanuel Berg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Puckdropper wrote:
>
>> Don't work in the rain or falling snow if you
>> don't have to.
>
>But that would rule out the entire winter :)
As a general rule electricity and water aren't happy conbination.
Being low voltage battery operated, the odds that they are going to do
anything that hurts you electrically are pretty small. On the other
hand, if they get wet regularly it's probably going to shorten their
life.
If you're planning on working outdoors in the wet, you're probably
better off with air tools.
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 19:31:47 +0100, Emanuel Berg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>DerbyDad03 wrote:
>
>> Where is it stated that tools are seldom for
>> outdoor use
>
>It is stated in the manual "for indoor use",
>which is common even for tools that you would
>think would have the most
>applications outdoors.
Most of my power tools,INCLUDING MY SNOWBLKOWER AND GENERATOR,SAY
"NOT FOR INDOOR USE"
On Tue, 02 Jan 2018 22:21:43 +0100, Emanuel Berg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Puckdropper wrote:
>
>> Don't work in the rain or falling snow if you
>> don't have to.
>
>But that would rule out the entire winter :)
That is what Apre' Skiing is about, sit by the fire and enjoy your
beverage.