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Ivan Vegvary

01/02/2018 11:30 AM

Help Craftsman Electronic Radial Arm Saw

Finished with rebuilding the above to give to my son-in-law. Over 30 hours of rust removal, lubrication and adjustments and free upgrade kit. Problem with the electronics.

History: Purchased saw used in 2005. Electronics worked except for one axis. Never used, sat in unheated shop in wet Oregon.
Now, upon assembly, I noticed that the electronics is dead, even with new battery.
While I would never use it myself (prefer pocket tape) the kid might enjoy it.
Have the users and parts manuals with all the diagrams. Sears only sells common hardware for this saw today. ($6 for common screw, plus shipping).

Anybody have a source for a electronic schematic for the encoders and printed circuit board? I am fairly familiar with electronic repairs (from the old tube days) and feel confident I could fix this if I had a schematic.

All suggestions would be appreciated. I realize this is not a very pro RAS group, but, I love restoring old machinery. 1/2 inch Craftsman Shaper is the next project. Another tool nobody wants.

Ivan Vegvary
Sandy, Oregon


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DerbyDad03

in reply to Ivan Vegvary on 01/02/2018 11:30 AM

04/02/2018 6:26 AM

On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 1:00:15 AM UTC-5, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 2:25:13 PM UTC-8, Markem wrote:
> > On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 11:30:38 -0800 (PST), Ivan Vegvary
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >Finished with rebuilding the above to give to my son-in-law. Over 30 hours of rust removal, lubrication and adjustments and free upgrade kit. Problem with the electronics.
> > >
> > >History: Purchased saw used in 2005. Electronics worked except for one axis. Never used, sat in unheated shop in wet Oregon.
> > >Now, upon assembly, I noticed that the electronics is dead, even with new battery.
> > >While I would never use it myself (prefer pocket tape) the kid might enjoy it.
> > >Have the users and parts manuals with all the diagrams. Sears only sells common hardware for this saw today. ($6 for common screw, plus shipping).
> > >
> > >Anybody have a source for a electronic schematic for the encoders and printed circuit board? I am fairly familiar with electronic repairs (from the old tube days) and feel confident I could fix this if I had a schematic.
> > >
> > >All suggestions would be appreciated. I realize this is not a very pro RAS group, but, I love restoring old machinery. 1/2 inch Craftsman Shaper is the next project. Another tool nobody wants.
> > >
> > >Ivan Vegvary
> > >Sandy, Oregon
> >
> > If the model# starts with 113 it was built by Emerson, they might be
> > of help.
>
> Problem solved. Not used to the Style J 6V Battery. Did not have it snapped in all the way. EMBARASSING !!!
>
> All functions work. Thanks everyone.
>
> Ivan Vegvary, Sandy, Oregon

Thanks for be humble enough to admit the root cause and save people from trying to
find the documentation. Glad it was such an easy fix.

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Ivan Vegvary

in reply to Ivan Vegvary on 01/02/2018 11:30 AM

03/02/2018 10:00 PM

On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 2:25:13 PM UTC-8, Markem wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 11:30:38 -0800 (PST), Ivan Vegvary
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Finished with rebuilding the above to give to my son-in-law. Over 30 hours of rust removal, lubrication and adjustments and free upgrade kit. Problem with the electronics.
> >
> >History: Purchased saw used in 2005. Electronics worked except for one axis. Never used, sat in unheated shop in wet Oregon.
> >Now, upon assembly, I noticed that the electronics is dead, even with new battery.
> >While I would never use it myself (prefer pocket tape) the kid might enjoy it.
> >Have the users and parts manuals with all the diagrams. Sears only sells common hardware for this saw today. ($6 for common screw, plus shipping).
> >
> >Anybody have a source for a electronic schematic for the encoders and printed circuit board? I am fairly familiar with electronic repairs (from the old tube days) and feel confident I could fix this if I had a schematic.
> >
> >All suggestions would be appreciated. I realize this is not a very pro RAS group, but, I love restoring old machinery. 1/2 inch Craftsman Shaper is the next project. Another tool nobody wants.
> >
> >Ivan Vegvary
> >Sandy, Oregon
>
> If the model# starts with 113 it was built by Emerson, they might be
> of help.

Problem solved. Not used to the Style J 6V Battery. Did not have it snapped in all the way. EMBARASSING !!!

All functions work. Thanks everyone.

Ivan Vegvary, Sandy, Oregon

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Puckdropper

in reply to Ivan Vegvary on 01/02/2018 11:30 AM

01/02/2018 8:58 PM

Ivan Vegvary <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Finished with rebuilding the above to give to my son-in-law. Over 30
> hours of rust removal, lubrication and adjustments and free upgrade
> kit. Problem with the electronics.
>
> History: Purchased saw used in 2005. Electronics worked except for
> one axis. Never used, sat in unheated shop in wet Oregon. Now, upon
> assembly, I noticed that the electronics is dead, even with new
> battery. While I would never use it myself (prefer pocket tape) the
> kid might enjoy it. Have the users and parts manuals with all the
> diagrams. Sears only sells common hardware for this saw today. ($6
> for common screw, plus shipping).
>
> Anybody have a source for a electronic schematic for the encoders and
> printed circuit board? I am fairly familiar with electronic repairs
> (from the old tube days) and feel confident I could fix this if I had
> a schematic.
>
> All suggestions would be appreciated. I realize this is not a very
> pro RAS group, but, I love restoring old machinery. 1/2 inch
> Craftsman Shaper is the next project. Another tool nobody wants.
>
> Ivan Vegvary
> Sandy, Oregon
>

If no one here can help you, head on over to the Home Shop Machinist BBS:
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/forum/general

They have a few electronics guys over there that should be able to walk
you through what to look for.

Usually, electronics troubleshooting without documentation starts with
making sure power is getting where it should.

Puckdropper
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Markem

in reply to Ivan Vegvary on 01/02/2018 11:30 AM

01/02/2018 4:25 PM

On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 11:30:38 -0800 (PST), Ivan Vegvary
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Finished with rebuilding the above to give to my son-in-law. Over 30 hours of rust removal, lubrication and adjustments and free upgrade kit. Problem with the electronics.
>
>History: Purchased saw used in 2005. Electronics worked except for one axis. Never used, sat in unheated shop in wet Oregon.
>Now, upon assembly, I noticed that the electronics is dead, even with new battery.
>While I would never use it myself (prefer pocket tape) the kid might enjoy it.
>Have the users and parts manuals with all the diagrams. Sears only sells common hardware for this saw today. ($6 for common screw, plus shipping).
>
>Anybody have a source for a electronic schematic for the encoders and printed circuit board? I am fairly familiar with electronic repairs (from the old tube days) and feel confident I could fix this if I had a schematic.
>
>All suggestions would be appreciated. I realize this is not a very pro RAS group, but, I love restoring old machinery. 1/2 inch Craftsman Shaper is the next project. Another tool nobody wants.
>
>Ivan Vegvary
>Sandy, Oregon

If the model# starts with 113 it was built by Emerson, they might be
of help.


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