On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
> Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
> Regards, Pat
You are a woodworker, why not build your own? There is a set of plans out there more recent than these (frankly this one is ugly)
https://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/scrapwood_scraper_plane
That uses a Hock blade set at something like 95degrees. I built one, and it works okay. I prefer a Cabinet Scraper, (Stanley #80), which are on Ebay for anywhere from $20 on up.
Then there is this from Lumberjocks. There is also a set of plans in one of the woodworking mags that was published about a year ago.
"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message news:TokcC.222616$%[email protected]...
>There are various reproduction #80's around as well, including
>one from woodcraft. I picked up a New-in-box Stanley #80M
>at an antique store recently for $35.
I just looked it up... I bought a new #80 and with delivery it ran $33.20.
That was in December 2002. ;~)
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 11:28:00 PM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:04:18 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 7:11:00 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
> > > > Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
> > > > Regards, Pat
> > >
> > > I saw a Stanley #85 scraper plane on Ebay for $450. It looks great but that's way too steep for me.
> > >
> > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-No-85-Scraper-Plane-with-Tilting-Handle-and-Knob/273024393771
> > >
> > > You can buy scaper holders that flex for you.
> > >
> > > https://www.japanwoodworker.com/products/scraper-holder
> >
> > A follow-up on this. Your note reminded me that I had lost a bolt on my Veritas scraper holder. No telling where it went. Just one of those deals where you pick it up one day and no bolt.
> >
> > So I wrote and asked about the cost of a replacement bolt. I received an email that said they would send another, no cost. It arrived today.
> >
> > GREAT company.
>
> I'll bet you asked nicely. The bolt is probably $5.95 with $11.95 shipping
> for those that send a b*itchy email, complaining about the quality of the
> product. ;-)
Excellent point.
On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 9:10:29 AM UTC-6, -MIKE- wrote:
> On 1/31/18 8:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> > Michael <[email protected]> writes:
> >> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
> >>> Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
> >>> Regards, Pat
> >>
> >> I saw a Stanley #85 scraper plane on Ebay for $450. It looks great but that's way too steep for me.
> >>
> >
> > You can get a brand-new L-N #85 (as good as the stanley, if not better)
> > for $215 <https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/scraping-planes/cabinet-makers-scraper?node=4075>
> >
> > Of more general use is the 112 analogue
> > <https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/scraping-planes/large-scraping-plane?node=4075>
> > for $235. Or the lee valley version for $175
> > <http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,310&p=48431>
> >
> > Or the small scraping plane from lee valley
> >
> > <http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=62885&cat=1,41182>
> >
> > There are various reproduction #80's around as well, including
> > one from woodcraft. I picked up a New-in-box Stanley #80M
> > at an antique store recently for $35.
> >
>
> That qualifies for a "You suck!"
+1
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 8:11:00 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
> > Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
> > Regards, Pat
>
> I saw a Stanley #85 scraper plane on Ebay for $450. It looks great but that's way too steep for me.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-No-85-Scraper-Plane-with-Tilting-Handle-and-Knob/273024393771
>
> You can buy scaper holders that flex for you.
>
> https://www.japanwoodworker.com/products/scraper-holder
A brand new scraping plane from Lee Valley runs $179 USD.
On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:04:18 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 7:11:00 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
> > > Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
> > > Regards, Pat
> >
> > I saw a Stanley #85 scraper plane on Ebay for $450. It looks great but that's way too steep for me.
> >
> > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-No-85-Scraper-Plane-with-Tilting-Handle-and-Knob/273024393771
> >
> > You can buy scaper holders that flex for you.
> >
> > https://www.japanwoodworker.com/products/scraper-holder
>
> A follow-up on this. Your note reminded me that I had lost a bolt on my Veritas scraper holder. No telling where it went. Just one of those deals where you pick it up one day and no bolt.
>
> So I wrote and asked about the cost of a replacement bolt. I received an email that said they would send another, no cost. It arrived today.
>
> GREAT company.
I'll bet you asked nicely. The bolt is probably $5.95 with $11.95 shipping
for those that send a b*itchy email, complaining about the quality of the
product. ;-)
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
> Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
> Regards, Pat
I saw a Stanley #85 scraper plane on Ebay for $450. It looks great but that's way too steep for me.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-No-85-Scraper-Plane-with-Tilting-Handle-and-Knob/273024393771
You can buy scaper holders that flex for you.
https://www.japanwoodworker.com/products/scraper-holder
On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 7:11:00 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
> > Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
> > Regards, Pat
>
> I saw a Stanley #85 scraper plane on Ebay for $450. It looks great but that's way too steep for me.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley-No-85-Scraper-Plane-with-Tilting-Handle-and-Knob/273024393771
>
> You can buy scaper holders that flex for you.
>
> https://www.japanwoodworker.com/products/scraper-holder
A follow-up on this. Your note reminded me that I had lost a bolt on my Veritas scraper holder. No telling where it went. Just one of those deals where you pick it up one day and no bolt.
So I wrote and asked about the cost of a replacement bolt. I received an email that said they would send another, no cost. It arrived today.
GREAT company.
Michael <[email protected]> writes:
>On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
>> Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
>> Regards, Pat
>
>I saw a Stanley #85 scraper plane on Ebay for $450. It looks great but that's way too steep for me.
>
You can get a brand-new L-N #85 (as good as the stanley, if not better)
for $215 <https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/scraping-planes/cabinet-makers-scraper?node=4075>
Of more general use is the 112 analogue
<https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/scraping-planes/large-scraping-plane?node=4075>
for $235. Or the lee valley version for $175
<http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,310&p=48431>
Or the small scraping plane from lee valley
<http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=62885&cat=1,41182>
There are various reproduction #80's around as well, including
one from woodcraft. I picked up a New-in-box Stanley #80M
at an antique store recently for $35.
-MIKE- <[email protected]> writes:
>On 1/31/18 8:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> Michael <[email protected]> writes:
>>> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
>>>> Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
>>>> Regards, Pat
>>>
>>> I saw a Stanley #85 scraper plane on Ebay for $450. It looks great but that's way too steep for me.
>>>
>>
>> You can get a brand-new L-N #85 (as good as the stanley, if not better)
>> for $215 <https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/scraping-planes/cabinet-makers-scraper?node=4075>
>>
>> Of more general use is the 112 analogue
>> <https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/scraping-planes/large-scraping-plane?node=4075>
>> for $235. Or the lee valley version for $175
>> <http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,310&p=48431>
>>
>> Or the small scraping plane from lee valley
>>
>> <http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=62885&cat=1,41182>
>>
>> There are various reproduction #80's around as well, including
>> one from woodcraft. I picked up a New-in-box Stanley #80M
>> at an antique store recently for $35.
>>
>
>That qualifies for a "You suck!"
>
Yeah. Incredibly, this was from one of the higher-priced
antique malls I regularly visit - on cannery row in Monterey.
"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> writes:
>"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message news:TokcC.222616$%[email protected]...
>
>
>>There are various reproduction #80's around as well, including
>>one from woodcraft. I picked up a New-in-box Stanley #80M
>>at an antique store recently for $35.
>
>I just looked it up... I bought a new #80 and with delivery it ran $33.20.
>That was in December 2002. ;~)
That's one of the made-in-the-UK ones. The real made-in-usa
#80 production was terminated 1984. The #80M production terminated
in 1974.
http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan10.htm#num80M
"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> writes:
>>"Scott Lurndal" wrote in message news:TokcC.222616$%[email protected]...
>
>
>>>There are various reproduction #80's around as well, including
>>>one from woodcraft. I picked up a New-in-box Stanley #80M
>>>at an antique store recently for $35.
>
>>I just looked it up... I bought a new #80 and with delivery it ran $33.20.
>>That was in December 2002. ;~)
>That's one of the made-in-the-UK ones. The real made-in-usa
>#80 production was terminated 1984. The #80M production terminated
>in 1974.
>http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan10.htm#num80M
It works just fine regardless for the applications to which it is applied...
mostly things like stripping finish off and scrapping glue. I have a good
selection of card scrapers for finer work and particularly like the thinnest
L-N scraper.
On 1/31/18 8:29 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> Michael <[email protected]> writes:
>> On Tuesday, January 30, 2018 at 6:43:15 PM UTC-6, patrick wrote:
>>> Getting old and the hands don't work as well as they use to. Flexing a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of makers of them?
>>> Regards, Pat
>>
>> I saw a Stanley #85 scraper plane on Ebay for $450. It looks great but that's way too steep for me.
>>
>
> You can get a brand-new L-N #85 (as good as the stanley, if not better)
> for $215 <https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/scraping-planes/cabinet-makers-scraper?node=4075>
>
> Of more general use is the 112 analogue
> <https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/scraping-planes/large-scraping-plane?node=4075>
> for $235. Or the lee valley version for $175
> <http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?cat=1,310&p=48431>
>
> Or the small scraping plane from lee valley
>
> <http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=62885&cat=1,41182>
>
> There are various reproduction #80's around as well, including
> one from woodcraft. I picked up a New-in-box Stanley #80M
> at an antique store recently for $35.
>
That qualifies for a "You suck!"
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:43:09 -0800 (PST)
patrick <[email protected]> wrote:
> a scraper to get a decent surface. So anyone use a scraper and is the
> only reason they are so expensive that there's only a couple of
> makers of them? Regards, Pat
doubt that is the only reason
some folks just like to pay more for tools to make themselves happy
and as long as there are these buyers there will be sellers
i do use furniture scrapers which you can diy