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KIMOSABE

15/09/2010 10:16 PM

What to use as a non-skid material on a circular saw guide? Suggestions?

I found the following post on a forum in the UK at
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/clampless-circular-saw-guide-t16979.html

I'm looking for suggestions for a material that can be used for the
non-skid effect. As pointed out in other posts in this thread, the
Carroll site is not working.
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After recently using a Festo saw and guide at work I must admit I was
quite taken with the way the guide had rubber strips stuck to the
underside so it could be used without clamps, really neat idea.
Messing about in my workshop later with some homemade guides made of
mdf with a batten routed down the center i was wondering what i could
use for the same effect and rummaging around i came across some self
adhesive foam tape that is sold by Carroll tools for their range of
drum sanders. it is 75mm wide so I split it into 3 strips and fixed it
to the underside of the guides. Crikey it really grips, immovable in
fact yet you can just pick it up and move it. It costs =A31.50 a metre
and obviously you can make your guides to suit whatever without any
massive outlay.
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I found this stuff on the net, but there's no telling how tough it is.
http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=3D120560


This topic has 21 replies

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Neil Brooks

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 4:12 PM

On Sep 17, 5:01=A0pm, KIMOSABE <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just what I was looking for. =A0Thanks for the advice.

Also ... I had/have a roll or two of this stuff ...

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/grip-it-shelf-liner-taupe/37088

Left over from when I had an RV.

It does a GREAT job for what you describe. I also use it for sanding
and hand-held router use.

Because it's so porous, it's just a simple "shake clean," to get the
sawdust out.

Cheap, too !

GS

Gordon Shumway

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 9:43 PM

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:30:35 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>
>> I believe you meant to say $0.64 per foot.
>
>No, I was just making a guess as to how Fecestool would price this
>item.


Your original link didn't go to the exact product page but after a
little digging around ended up at this page:

http://www.festoolusa.com/products/guide-rails/splinterguards/nonskid-strip-485724.html

and that part, with a length of 32.8ft and a cost of $21.00 comes out
to, well, you know...

MH

"Martin H. Eastburn"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

18/09/2010 8:51 PM

Shelf liner comes in colors :-)

Box is black.

Router Mat is buff tan.

I like colors.

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On 9/17/2010 10:42 PM, Steve wrote:
> On 2010-09-17 06:09:14 -0400, "Leon" <[email protected]> said:
>
>> I found this stuff on the net, but there's no telling how tough it is.
>> http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=120560
>
> That Zippy foam stuff is usually available in the kids' crafts aisle at your
> neighborhood Target, Walmart*, or similar retailer.
>
> The shelf liner stuff is in housewears, with the cleaning products/tools.
>
> Or if you want you can call it Router Mat, and pay Woodcraft's/Rockler's prices.
> Sears sells it as liners for their toolboxes (or is the plural "toolboxen"?).
>
> Happy shopping!
>

Mt

"Max"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 9:09 PM

"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 9/17/10 9:43 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:30:35 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe you meant to say $0.64 per foot.
>>>
>>> No, I was just making a guess as to how Fecestool would price this
>>> item.
>>
>>
>> Your original link didn't go to the exact product page but after a
>> little digging around ended up at this page:
>>
>> http://www.festoolusa.com/products/guide-rails/splinterguards/nonskid-strip-485724.html
>>
>> and that part, with a length of 32.8ft and a cost of $21.00 comes out
>> to, well, you know...
>
>
> I'm fairly certain he was just making a joke pertaining to how expensive
> Festool stuff is.
>
>
>
> --
>
> -MIKE-
>
> "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> --Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
> --
> http://mikedrums.com
> [email protected]
> ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>


It ain't no joke! :-(

Max (Festool owner)

Sk

Steve

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 11:42 PM

On 2010-09-17 06:09:14 -0400, "Leon" <[email protected]> said:

> I found this stuff on the net, but there's no telling how tough it is.
> http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=120560

That Zippy foam stuff is usually available in the kids' crafts aisle at
your neighborhood Target, Walmart*, or similar retailer.

The shelf liner stuff is in housewears, with the cleaning products/tools.

Or if you want you can call it Router Mat, and pay
Woodcraft's/Rockler's prices. Sears sells it as liners for their
toolboxes (or is the plural "toolboxen"?).

Happy shopping!

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

18/09/2010 11:16 AM

Father Haskell <[email protected]> wrote in
news:780e3eb5-c111-4444-9a69-0bb2912090d2@a30g2000vbt.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 16, 1:16 am, KIMOSABE <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I found the following post on a forum in the UK
>> athttp://www.ukworkshop.c
> o.uk/forums/clampless-circular-saw-guide-t1697...
>>
>> I'm looking for suggestions for a material that can be used for the
>> non-skid effect.
>
> Black cloth friction tape.
>

That would work, but you risk leaving behind black marks on the wood.
(I'm sure it depends on the friction tape.) Plus it would probably lose
some of its effectiveness after getting some sawdust on it.

Puckdropper
--
Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

18/09/2010 1:20 PM

On Sep 18, 7:16=A0am, Puckdropper <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote:
> Father Haskell <[email protected]> wrote innews:780e3eb5-c111-4444-=
[email protected]:
>
> > On Sep 16, 1:16=A0am, KIMOSABE <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I found the following post on a forum in the UK
> >> athttp://www.ukworkshop.c
> > o.uk/forums/clampless-circular-saw-guide-t1697...
>
> >> I'm looking for suggestions for a material that can be used for the
> >> non-skid effect.
>
> > Black cloth friction tape.
>
> That would work, but you risk leaving behind black marks on the wood. =A0
> (I'm sure it depends on the friction tape.) =A0Plus it would probably los=
e
> some of its effectiveness after getting some sawdust on it.
>
> Puckdropper
> --
> Never teach your apprentice everything you know.

Haven't had either problem. Retains its friction for several
months. When it goes, just peel off and replace, a two
minute job. Very cheap.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 4:30 PM

>
> I believe you meant to say $0.64 per foot.

No, I was just making a guess as to how Fecestool would price this
item.

Kk

KIMOSABE

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 4:01 PM

Just what I was looking for. Thanks for the advice.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 7:50 PM

On Sep 16, 1:16=A0am, KIMOSABE <[email protected]> wrote:
> I found the following post on a forum in the UK athttp://www.ukworkshop.c=
o.uk/forums/clampless-circular-saw-guide-t1697...
>
> I'm looking for suggestions for a material that can be used for the
> non-skid effect.

Black cloth friction tape.

Kk

KIMOSABE

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

16/09/2010 9:22 PM


> Good stuff
> I use that stuff to protect the bumper of the car if I happen to be putting
> something in the boot
> same colour as the car and looking flat to someone behind me, it can't be
> noticed
> costs about 50 cents.

Thanks for the idea. Where is it sold?

GS

Gordon Shumway

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 3:42 PM

On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:39:53 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > The material used on the Festool guide rails is replacable.  Buy
>the
>> replacements from Festool.
>>
>> http://www.festoolusa.com/products/guide-rails/splinterguards/nonskid...
>
>And only $60 per inch.

I believe you meant to say $0.64 per foot.

Ll

"Leon"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 5:09 AM


"KIMOSABE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I found the following post on a forum in the UK at
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/clampless-circular-saw-guide-t16979.html

I'm looking for suggestions for a material that can be used for the
non-skid effect. As pointed out in other posts in this thread, the
Carroll site is not working.
====================
After recently using a Festo saw and guide at work I must admit I was
quite taken with the way the guide had rubber strips stuck to the
underside so it could be used without clamps, really neat idea.
Messing about in my workshop later with some homemade guides made of
mdf with a batten routed down the center i was wondering what i could
use for the same effect and rummaging around i came across some self
adhesive foam tape that is sold by Carroll tools for their range of
drum sanders. it is 75mm wide so I split it into 3 strips and fixed it
to the underside of the guides. Crikey it really grips, immovable in
fact yet you can just pick it up and move it. It costs £1.50 a metre
and obviously you can make your guides to suit whatever without any
massive outlay.
====================
I found this stuff on the net, but there's no telling how tough it is.
http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=120560


The material used on the Festool guide rails is replacable. Buy the
replacements from Festool.

http://www.festoolusa.com/products/guide-rails/splinterguards/nonskid-strip-485724.html

Uu

"Upscale"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

18/09/2010 8:07 AM


"Puckdropper" <puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com> wrote in message
> That would work, but you risk leaving behind black marks on the wood.
> (I'm sure it depends on the friction tape.) Plus it would probably lose
> some of its effectiveness after getting some sawdust on it.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32183&cat=1,110,43466
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32184&cat=1,110,43466

KM

Ken Moffett

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

03/10/2010 1:00 PM

"Martin H. Eastburn" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=120560

If you're talking about the face of the miter gauge, I've always
used a ~100-120 grit wet/dry sandpaper rubber cemented to on and
pared to shape. I would think that 1/8" foam might tend to
compress unevenly under load and through it off the square.

Ken

Cc

"CW"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 5:22 PM


"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Neil Brooks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:0cd4ead9-b415-45e5-93ca-ba85311805cb@x18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 17, 5:01 pm, KIMOSABE <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just what I was looking for. Thanks for the advice.
>
> Also ... I had/have a roll or two of this stuff ...
>
> http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/grip-it-shelf-liner-taupe/37088
>
> Left over from when I had an RV.
>
> It does a GREAT job for what you describe. I also use it for sanding
> and hand-held router use.
>
> Because it's so porous, it's just a simple "shake clean," to get the
> sawdust out.
>
> Cheap, too !
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> That's the stuff! Plop it on the bench, drop the work on it and rout/sand
> away!

I agree, it works great. I've been able to find it at the dollar store.

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 11:39 AM

> The material used on the Festool guide rails is replacable. =A0Buy
the
> replacements from Festool.
>
> http://www.festoolusa.com/products/guide-rails/splinterguards/nonskid...

And only $60 per inch.

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

15/09/2010 11:01 PM

"KIMOSABE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I found the following post on a forum in the UK at
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/clampless-circular-saw-guide-t16979.html

I'm looking for suggestions for a material that can be used for the
non-skid effect. As pointed out in other posts in this thread, the
Carroll site is not working.
====================
After recently using a Festo saw and guide at work I must admit I was
quite taken with the way the guide had rubber strips stuck to the
underside so it could be used without clamps, really neat idea.
Messing about in my workshop later with some homemade guides made of
mdf with a batten routed down the center i was wondering what i could
use for the same effect and rummaging around i came across some self
adhesive foam tape that is sold by Carroll tools for their range of
drum sanders. it is 75mm wide so I split it into 3 strips and fixed it
to the underside of the guides. Crikey it really grips, immovable in
fact yet you can just pick it up and move it. It costs £1.50 a metre
and obviously you can make your guides to suit whatever without any
massive outlay.
====================
I found this stuff on the net, but there's no telling how tough it is.
http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=120560

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What about the non-skid stuff sold for lining shelves and drawers? Also used
as an aid to opening jars.

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 5:08 PM

"Neil Brooks" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:0cd4ead9-b415-45e5-93ca-ba85311805cb@x18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 17, 5:01 pm, KIMOSABE <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just what I was looking for. Thanks for the advice.

Also ... I had/have a roll or two of this stuff ...

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/grip-it-shelf-liner-taupe/37088

Left over from when I had an RV.

It does a GREAT job for what you describe. I also use it for sanding
and hand-held router use.

Because it's so porous, it's just a simple "shake clean," to get the
sawdust out.

Cheap, too !

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's the stuff! Plop it on the bench, drop the work on it and rout/sand
away!

Mm

-MIKE-

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

17/09/2010 9:56 PM

On 9/17/10 9:43 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:30:35 -0700 (PDT), "SonomaProducts.com"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> I believe you meant to say $0.64 per foot.
>>
>> No, I was just making a guess as to how Fecestool would price this
>> item.
>
>
> Your original link didn't go to the exact product page but after a
> little digging around ended up at this page:
>
> http://www.festoolusa.com/products/guide-rails/splinterguards/nonskid-strip-485724.html
>
> and that part, with a length of 32.8ft and a cost of $21.00 comes out
> to, well, you know...


I'm fairly certain he was just making a joke pertaining to how expensive
Festool stuff is.



--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

GW

"George W Frost"

in reply to KIMOSABE on 15/09/2010 10:16 PM

16/09/2010 6:19 PM


"Lobby Dosser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "KIMOSABE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> I found the following post on a forum in the UK at
> http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/clampless-circular-saw-guide-t16979.html
>
> I'm looking for suggestions for a material that can be used for the
> non-skid effect. As pointed out in other posts in this thread, the
> Carroll site is not working.
> ====================
> After recently using a Festo saw and guide at work I must admit I was
> quite taken with the way the guide had rubber strips stuck to the
> underside so it could be used without clamps, really neat idea.
> Messing about in my workshop later with some homemade guides made of
> mdf with a batten routed down the center i was wondering what i could
> use for the same effect and rummaging around i came across some self
> adhesive foam tape that is sold by Carroll tools for their range of
> drum sanders. it is 75mm wide so I split it into 3 strips and fixed it
> to the underside of the guides. Crikey it really grips, immovable in
> fact yet you can just pick it up and move it. It costs £1.50 a metre
> and obviously you can make your guides to suit whatever without any
> massive outlay.
> ====================
> I found this stuff on the net, but there's no telling how tough it is.
> http://www.independentliving.com/prodinfo.asp?number=120560
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> What about the non-skid stuff sold for lining shelves and drawers? Also
> used as an aid to opening jars.


Good stuff
I use that stuff to protect the bumper of the car if I happen to be putting
something in the boot
same colour as the car and looking flat to someone behind me, it can't be
noticed
costs about 50 cents.


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