I need to get a dust collector for a basement shop, and was wondering
what people think between these two companies. They both have a 2 hp
unit, 1500ish CFM, 12" impellers, similar stats. Grizzly has it with
.3 micron bags, Penn with 1 micron.
Any opinions on which is better? I was thinking Harbor Freight, but
the extra $$$ spent for the better bag, plus since the HF is only
110v, I question the 2hp. claim.
If someone has a used collector or air cleaner in the Chicago area for
sale, I'm not opposed to used.
Rob
Cannot comment on Grizzly dust collection but I have one of their cabinet
saws and some other equipment. Very happy with the saw and their service.
If you call their product support they will give you phone numbers of up to
two customers in your area that have purchased similar equipment. Might try
that.
Another you might consider is the ShopFox 1.5 HP (120 v, 16 Amps). I
just paid $220 from toolcorral.com. You can't beat the shipping.
Have fun.
Joe
RobW wrote:
> I need to get a dust collector for a basement shop, and was wondering
> what people think between these two companies. They both have a 2 hp
> unit, 1500ish CFM, 12" impellers, similar stats. Grizzly has it with
> .3 micron bags, Penn with 1 micron.
>
> Any opinions on which is better? I was thinking Harbor Freight, but
> the extra $$$ spent for the better bag, plus since the HF is only
> 110v, I question the 2hp. claim.
>
> If someone has a used collector or air cleaner in the Chicago area for
> sale, I'm not opposed to used.
>
> Rob
I bought a PS and am reasonably happy with it, however...
Their catalog calls says it is a 18a motor, but the motor says it is 16a. I
sent several emails to PS about it, but they did not bother to answer.
My table saw has a brand name 2hp motor that is 16a, so it is possible; but
I agree that HF's is probably much less.
I don't know about the grizzly, however, I bought the Penn State 2500. In
comparisons, it was shown to be very efficient and had a low noise level.
All I can say is that I am pleased. I have a tablesaw, jointer and planer
hooked up at one time and it does a good job.
Preston.
"RobW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I need to get a dust collector for a basement shop, and was wondering
> what people think between these two companies. They both have a 2 hp
> unit, 1500ish CFM, 12" impellers, similar stats. Grizzly has it with
> .3 micron bags, Penn with 1 micron.
>
> Any opinions on which is better? I was thinking Harbor Freight, but
> the extra $$$ spent for the better bag, plus since the HF is only
> 110v, I question the 2hp. claim.
>
> If someone has a used collector or air cleaner in the Chicago area for
> sale, I'm not opposed to used.
>
> Rob
I have a no-name 2HP 1200cfm. Got one of the felt-oversized top bag.
Made all the difference in the world. Mine looks to be 24X60 inch.
Doubled the suction.
Jack
[email protected] (RobW) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I need to get a dust collector for a basement shop, and was wondering
> what people think between these two companies. They both have a 2 hp
> unit, 1500ish CFM, 12" impellers, similar stats. Grizzly has it with
> .3 micron bags, Penn with 1 micron.
>
> Any opinions on which is better? I was thinking Harbor Freight, but
> the extra $$$ spent for the better bag, plus since the HF is only
> 110v, I question the 2hp. claim.
>
> If someone has a used collector or air cleaner in the Chicago area for
> sale, I'm not opposed to used.
>
> Rob
I have the 1029Z. It's my 1st dust collector and I'm very happy with my
purchase. Others have said it is noisy, but I was surprised by how quiet it
is. A relative thing I suppose. Most of my shop is Grizzly and I'm
delighted with everything.
Good luck.
"RobW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I need to get a dust collector for a basement shop, and was wondering
> what people think between these two companies. They both have a 2 hp
> unit, 1500ish CFM, 12" impellers, similar stats. Grizzly has it with
> .3 micron bags, Penn with 1 micron.
>
> Any opinions on which is better? I was thinking Harbor Freight, but
> the extra $$$ spent for the better bag, plus since the HF is only
> 110v, I question the 2hp. claim.
>
> If someone has a used collector or air cleaner in the Chicago area for
> sale, I'm not opposed to used.
>
> Rob
The top bag on my 1029 is real heavy and it feels like the bag is close to
or is about 1/8th inch thick. It feels like a heavy felt bag.
"Kent" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I recently got the Penn State DC2000CF. It's made in China, and I
> thought the overall fit and finish were mediocre... I'd put it about
> on the Harbor Freight level, and in fact most of the major parts
> (other than motor and impeller) appear identical to the HF DC. But
> hey, this is a dust collector, and performance is what matters, not
> cosmetics. The airflow is very impressive, and I've measured the motor
> draw at almost 9 amps with the blower wide open, so it appears to live
> up to its rating.
>
> Penn State also has an older 2 HP model, the DC250, which is rated for
> fewer CFM but has been reported to have better fit and finish.
>
> I can't comment on the Grizzly G1029Z, except to say a lot of people
> like it, and performance should be comparable. However, I'm skeptical
> about their 0.3 micron filtration claim. All the other vendors of felt
> filter bags (Penn State, Oneida, American Fabric Filter, etc.) rate
> them at 1 micron. I don't believe that Grizzly has some magic fabric
> that somehow works three times better than anyone elsess. Penn State
> uses oversized 16 oz felt bags, and I'd give them the nod for
> filtration no matter what the advertising says.
I recently got the Penn State DC2000CF. It's made in China, and I
thought the overall fit and finish were mediocre... I'd put it about
on the Harbor Freight level, and in fact most of the major parts
(other than motor and impeller) appear identical to the HF DC. But
hey, this is a dust collector, and performance is what matters, not
cosmetics. The airflow is very impressive, and I've measured the motor
draw at almost 9 amps with the blower wide open, so it appears to live
up to its rating.
Penn State also has an older 2 HP model, the DC250, which is rated for
fewer CFM but has been reported to have better fit and finish.
I can't comment on the Grizzly G1029Z, except to say a lot of people
like it, and performance should be comparable. However, I'm skeptical
about their 0.3 micron filtration claim. All the other vendors of felt
filter bags (Penn State, Oneida, American Fabric Filter, etc.) rate
them at 1 micron. I don't believe that Grizzly has some magic fabric
that somehow works three times better than anyone elsess. Penn State
uses oversized 16 oz felt bags, and I'd give them the nod for
filtration no matter what the advertising says.
I have the G1029Z. It is an awesome machine I am very happy with it. Grizzly
says that it is their top seller. It costs 259.95.
"leonard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have the grizzly but purchased the 1 mic bags works great.
>
> Len
>
> "RobW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >I need to get a dust collector for a basement shop, and was wondering
> > what people think between these two companies. They both have a 2 hp
> > unit, 1500ish CFM, 12" impellers, similar stats. Grizzly has it with
> > .3 micron bags, Penn with 1 micron.
> >
> > Any opinions on which is better? I was thinking Harbor Freight, but
> > the extra $$$ spent for the better bag, plus since the HF is only
> > 110v, I question the 2hp. claim.
> >
> > If someone has a used collector or air cleaner in the Chicago area for
> > sale, I'm not opposed to used.
> >
> > Rob
>
>
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:11:52 GMT, "Ace" <[email protected]> wrote:
>My Grizz 1029Z is 2 weeks old and it catches everything. The top bag is real
>heavy.
>If I had one of the older 1029's I would contact Grizz for a price on the
>new bag.
>
Well maybe someday I will... IF I ever get around to it...
I am not after a dustless enviroment in my shop all I want the DC to
do is keep the shop a "little" cleaner...
Bob Griffiths
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 19:54:44 GMT, "toller" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I bought a PS and am reasonably happy with it, however...
>
>Their catalog calls says it is a 18a motor, but the motor says it is 16a. I
>sent several emails to PS about it, but they did not bother to answer.
>
>My table saw has a brand name 2hp motor that is 16a, so it is possible; but
>I agree that HF's is probably much less.
>
I have the HF DC.
first, it works well and is certainly an excellent value.
second, those must be shetland ponies. I can't imagine feeding 2 full
size horsies with 110v through the light duty cord they put on it.
I have the grizzly but purchased the 1 mic bags works great.
Len
"RobW" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I need to get a dust collector for a basement shop, and was wondering
> what people think between these two companies. They both have a 2 hp
> unit, 1500ish CFM, 12" impellers, similar stats. Grizzly has it with
> .3 micron bags, Penn with 1 micron.
>
> Any opinions on which is better? I was thinking Harbor Freight, but
> the extra $$$ spent for the better bag, plus since the HF is only
> 110v, I question the 2hp. claim.
>
> If someone has a used collector or air cleaner in the Chicago area for
> sale, I'm not opposed to used.
>
> Rob
On 22 Sep 2004 12:28:20 -0700, [email protected] (RobW) wrote:
>I need to get a dust collector for a basement shop, and was wondering
>what people think between these two companies. They both have a 2 hp
>unit, 1500ish CFM, 12" impellers, similar stats. Grizzly has it with
>.3 micron bags, Penn with 1 micron.
>
>Any opinions on which is better? I was thinking Harbor Freight, but
>the extra $$$ spent for the better bag, plus since the HF is only
>110v, I question the 2hp. claim.
>
>If someone has a used collector or air cleaner in the Chicago area for
>sale, I'm not opposed to used.
>
>Rob
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I have used a 1029 Grizzley unit for over 10 years and it works BUT I
do not think it is all that great... However my bags are original and
pretty porous ...30.0 microns would be more like it nowhere near 0.3
or 5.0 or even 10.0 ... I enclosed the top within a box suspended
from my ceiling that catches the majority of the fine dust that
leaves the bag when I fire it up or passes thru... this fine dust does
settle to the floor right under the collector and most of it does not
reenter the entire shop...
I also have a much older 1 Hp Penn state unit that I use strictly for
my planner... same complaints...it works but the bag is the same as
the griz 30.0 microns... if not larger
Neither work well in my opinion with a trash can separator...
Bob Griffiths
My Grizz 1029Z is 2 weeks old and it catches everything. The top bag is real
heavy.
If I had one of the older 1029's I would contact Grizz for a price on the
new bag.
"Bob G." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 22 Sep 2004 12:28:20 -0700, [email protected] (RobW) wrote:
>
> >I need to get a dust collector for a basement shop, and was wondering
> >what people think between these two companies. They both have a 2 hp
> >unit, 1500ish CFM, 12" impellers, similar stats. Grizzly has it with
> >.3 micron bags, Penn with 1 micron.
> >
> >Any opinions on which is better? I was thinking Harbor Freight, but
> >the extra $$$ spent for the better bag, plus since the HF is only
> >110v, I question the 2hp. claim.
> >
> >If someone has a used collector or air cleaner in the Chicago area for
> >sale, I'm not opposed to used.
> >
> >Rob
>
> ==========================
> I have used a 1029 Grizzley unit for over 10 years and it works BUT I
> do not think it is all that great... However my bags are original and
> pretty porous ...30.0 microns would be more like it nowhere near 0.3
> or 5.0 or even 10.0 ... I enclosed the top within a box suspended
> from my ceiling that catches the majority of the fine dust that
> leaves the bag when I fire it up or passes thru... this fine dust does
> settle to the floor right under the collector and most of it does not
> reenter the entire shop...
>
> I also have a much older 1 Hp Penn state unit that I use strictly for
> my planner... same complaints...it works but the bag is the same as
> the griz 30.0 microns... if not larger
>
> Neither work well in my opinion with a trash can separator...
>
> Bob Griffiths