I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
Holy Ghost.
All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
Just a kind bit of advice.
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:39:50 GMT, "The Puppy Wizard"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>HOWEDY Sarah Jane,
>
>"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in
>the
>> closet, David. (you, not him)
>
>HOWER dog lovers sez he'll think it's his den and won't relieve
>hisself
>there. That'll teach IT not to fHOWEL your HOWES. As a scientist,
>HOWE
>would you EXXXPLAIN David not thinkin likeWIZE? What's good for
>the goose...
>
>Question come up here abHOWETS the other day, if he can have water
>in the crate? Would not that likely be turned into WHINE?
>
>HOWE COME lockin a DOG in a box is GOOD and lockin a man in a
>box is BAD, even given all the WHINE he can handle? You can just
>IGNORE IT till he's QUIET and then take him HOWET for a walk an
>cookie. Only takes a couple times to teach a dog he's got no food
>water or a toilet an he don't know if you're comin back, just like
>J.C.
>
>Better to BELIEVE his Master will return, as otherWIZE, he's DEAD.
>
<shit snipped>
Is that English?
"Robert Schuh" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Art S wrote:
>
> > "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>"BRuce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >>>[email protected] wrote in message
> >>
> >>news:<[email protected]>...
> >>
> >>>>On 5 Oct 2003 15:01:09 -0700, [email protected] (The
> >>>>Sperminator) wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> >>>>>be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> >>>>>modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> >>>>>Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> >>>>>Holy Ghost.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> >>>>>Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Just a kind bit of advice.
> >>>>
> >>>>What was Jesus' ethnicity?
> >>>>---
> >>>>for healthy, natural, environmentally friendly foods in Minnesota go to
> >>>>http://wholefarmcoop.com
> >>>
> >>>Jesus was a Jew. The Jews before Christ's crucifixion were the one
> >>>true religion. However, the Jews of today are sinners who need to
> >>>accept Christ before they die or they will not be rewarded eternal
> >>>life.
> >>
> >>do the Jews of today sin as bad as the Catholic priests who fondle little
> >>boys?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure, but I think it is sacrilegious to talk that way about someone
> > who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah and is going to Heaven.
> >
> > Art
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Hey Art,
> Why not take your bible and shove it up your ass??
>
Can't. I don't own a Bible.
Sorry - I didn't realize you needed the sarcasm tags. I'll
try to remember next time.
Art
In <[email protected]> David wrote:
>
> "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need
>> to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that
>> the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is
>> not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ),
>> and the Holy Ghost.
>>
>> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
>> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>>
>> Just a kind bit of advice.
>
> his ass ain't worth saving
Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in the
closet, David. (you, not him)
In <[email protected]> David wrote:
>
> "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
>> >
>> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people
>> >> need to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the
>> >> Messiah that the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not
>> >> King David. It is not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father,
>> >> the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost.
>> >>
>> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
>> >> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>> >>
>> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
>> >
>> > his ass ain't worth saving
>>
>> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in the
>> closet, David. (you, not him)
>
> SJ -that damn closet again - how many closets you got?
Three - one in each bedroom, and one in the bathroom. I think I can
squeeze you in with the toilet paper and the cleaning products.
> i think you
> need to take that guy's advice - it's too late for David but maybe you
> can still be saved -
So you're saying my ass is worth saving? You must have found the JPEGs.
In <[email protected]> David wrote:
>
> "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
>> >
>> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people
>> >> need to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the
>> >> Messiah that the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not
>> >> King David. It is not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father,
>> >> the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost.
>> >>
>> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
>> >> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>> >>
>> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
>> >
>> > his ass ain't worth saving
>>
>> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in the
>> closet, David. (you, not him)
>
> show us your tits
Oh, I guess you didn't find the JPEGs. ;)
In <[email protected]> David wrote:
>
> "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
>> >
>> > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> In <[email protected]> David
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> > news:[email protected]...
>> >> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people
>> >> >> need to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the
>> >> >> Messiah that the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not
>> >> >> King David. It is not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the
>> >> >> Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as
>> >> >> their Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in
>> >> >> paradise.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
>> >> >
>> >> > his ass ain't worth saving
>> >>
>> >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in the
>> >> closet, David. (you, not him)
>> >
>> > show us your tits
>>
>> Oh, I guess you didn't find the JPEGs. ;)
>
> yes SJ found 'em - why do you think I've not posted for the last 5
> mins?
But what were you doing for the other 4 minutes and 55 seconds?
gps <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "Wayne S. Hill" wrote:
> >
> > Robert Schuh wrote:
> >
> > > Art S wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm not sure, but I think it is sacrilegious to talk that
> > >> way about someone who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah and
> > >> is going to Heaven.
> > >
> > > Hey Art,
> > > Why not take your bible and shove it up your ass??
> >
> > I believe you misread the intent of Art's post.
> >
> > --
> > -Wayne
>
> Rob misread something? Surely you jest.
> ps
God, I just finished reading thru this thread.
Most of y'all are SO fucked up!
How can ANY of you take religion seriously?
It is responsible for more horrific acts of cruelty
and inhumanism than any other concepts. All of them,
none accepted.
Embrace Atheism. That just MIGHT bring about world peace! :-P
I'm still trying, but at least I am agnostic so don't believe in
anything enough to fight about it. Ick!
Lyle's post is about the only one that showed any wisdom at all.
C.
David wrote:
>
> "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > Holy Ghost.
> >
> > All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >
> > Just a kind bit of advice.
>
> his ass ain't worth saving
That's not what you said last night.
ps
David wrote:
>
> "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> > >
> > > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > >> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >> > news:[email protected]...
> > >> >> In <[email protected]> David
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:[email protected]...
> > >> >> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people
> > >> >> >> need to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the
> > >> >> >> Messiah that the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not
> > >> >> >> King David. It is not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the
> > >> >> >> Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as
> > >> >> >> their Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in
> > >> >> >> paradise.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > his ass ain't worth saving
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in the
> > >> >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> > >> >
> > >> > show us your tits
> > >>
> > >> Oh, I guess you didn't find the JPEGs. ;)
> > >
> > > yes SJ found 'em - why do you think I've not posted for the last 5
> > > mins?
> >
> > But what were you doing for the other 4 minutes and 55 seconds?
>
> jesus! no wonder Bessie seems pissed off all the time (that's my sheep)
Isn't it the lady whose fiddle you tune? :)
ps
Child wrote:
>
> "Lyle McDonald" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > The Sperminator wrote:
> > >
> > > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > > Holy Ghost.
> >
> > Wrong.
> >
> > Curly, Moe and Larry are the three parts
> >
> > Shemp was a false Messiah.
> >
> > So was Curly Joe.
> >
> > Lyle
> > nyuk nyuk nyuk
>
> Shit Lyle,
> i hate the stooges.
> Guess I am going to hell with the rest of the jews.
As long as the stooges aren't there, it won't be all bad.
ps
David wrote:
>
> "gps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > David wrote:
> > >
> > > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > >> In <[email protected]> David
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > >> > news:[email protected]...
> > > > >> >> In <[email protected]> David
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > >> >> > news:[email protected]...
> > > > >> >> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish
> people
> > > > >> >> >> need to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the
> > > > >> >> >> Messiah that the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is
> not
> > > > >> >> >> King David. It is not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the
> > > > >> >> >> Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as
> > > > >> >> >> their Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in
> > > > >> >> >> paradise.
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > his ass ain't worth saving
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in
> the
> > > > >> >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > show us your tits
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Oh, I guess you didn't find the JPEGs. ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > yes SJ found 'em - why do you think I've not posted for the last 5
> > > > > mins?
> > > >
> > > > But what were you doing for the other 4 minutes and 55 seconds?
> > >
> > > jesus! no wonder Bessie seems pissed off all the time (that's my sheep)
> >
> > Isn't it the lady whose fiddle you tune? :)
> > ps
>
> sorry ps - I'm terrible with names - Bessie is actually the sheep - the
> other lady is my wife - and I better stop calling her Bessie at the critical
> moment
I can see how that might be problematic.
ps
David wrote:
>
> "gps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > David wrote:
> > >
> > > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > > > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > > > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > > > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > > > Holy Ghost.
> > > >
> > > > All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > > > Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> > > >
> > > > Just a kind bit of advice.
> > >
> > > his ass ain't worth saving
> >
> > That's not what you said last night.
> > ps
>
> things are never the same the next day :)
Buyer's remorse?
ps
The Sperminator wrote:
>
> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> Holy Ghost.
Wrong.
Curly, Moe and Larry are the three parts
Shemp was a false Messiah.
So was Curly Joe.
Lyle
nyuk nyuk nyuk
"Wayne S. Hill" wrote:
>
> Robert Schuh wrote:
>
> > Art S wrote:
> >
> >> I'm not sure, but I think it is sacrilegious to talk that
> >> way about someone who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah and
> >> is going to Heaven.
> >
> > Hey Art,
> > Why not take your bible and shove it up your ass??
>
> I believe you misread the intent of Art's post.
>
> --
> -Wayne
Rob misread something? Surely you jest.
ps
BRuce wrote:
> [email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>>On 5 Oct 2003 15:01:09 -0700, [email protected] (The
>>Sperminator) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
>>>be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
>>>modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
>>>Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
>>>Holy Ghost.
>>>
>>>All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
>>>Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>>>
>>>Just a kind bit of advice.
>>
>>What was Jesus' ethnicity?
>>---
>>for healthy, natural, environmentally friendly foods in Minnesota go to
>>http://wholefarmcoop.com
>
>
> Jesus was a Jew. The Jews before Christ's crucifixion were the one
> true religion. However, the Jews of today are sinners who need to
> accept Christ before they die or they will not be rewarded eternal
> life.
Fuck off you bigoted asshole.
Art S wrote:
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"BRuce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>[email protected] wrote in message
>>
>>news:<[email protected]>...
>>
>>>>On 5 Oct 2003 15:01:09 -0700, [email protected] (The
>>>>Sperminator) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
>>>>>be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
>>>>>modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
>>>>>Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
>>>>>Holy Ghost.
>>>>>
>>>>>All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
>>>>>Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just a kind bit of advice.
>>>>
>>>>What was Jesus' ethnicity?
>>>>---
>>>>for healthy, natural, environmentally friendly foods in Minnesota go to
>>>>http://wholefarmcoop.com
>>>
>>>Jesus was a Jew. The Jews before Christ's crucifixion were the one
>>>true religion. However, the Jews of today are sinners who need to
>>>accept Christ before they die or they will not be rewarded eternal
>>>life.
>>
>>do the Jews of today sin as bad as the Catholic priests who fondle little
>>boys?
>>
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure, but I think it is sacrilegious to talk that way about someone
> who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah and is going to Heaven.
>
> Art
>
>
>
Hey Art,
Why not take your bible and shove it up your ass??
On 5 Oct 2003 15:01:09 -0700, [email protected] (The
Sperminator) wrote:
>I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
>be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
>modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
>Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
>Holy Ghost.
>
>All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
>Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>
>Just a kind bit of advice.
What was Jesus' ethnicity?
---
for healthy, natural, environmentally friendly foods in Minnesota go to
http://wholefarmcoop.com
"Bob Garrison" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Betty Sue Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Christ is a false prophet. As a proud Jewish girl, I speak from
> experience.
>
> Oh yeah? What exactly was your experience?
Yes, I want to hear what her experience as a proud Jewish girl was.
Susan
>
>
On 20 Oct 2003 14:50:57 -0700, [email protected] (Betty Sue Stein)
wrote:
>Christ is a false prophet. As a proud Jewish girl, I speak from experience.
What does a jew girl have to be proud of already?
--
"If I'd known I'd have picked the cotton myself"
- Bumper sticker seen in Virginia
"Seth Breidbart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On 20 Oct 2003 14:50:57 -0700, [email protected] (Betty Sue Stein)
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Christ is a false prophet. As a proud Jewish girl, I speak from
experience.
> >
> >What does a jew girl have to be proud of already?
>
> Not being a brain-dead bigoted asshole like "The Revd Terence
> Fformby-Smythe". Not that that's much to be proud of, but it's more
> than you have.
>
> Seth
> --
> This is mfw, nobody wants to raise the quality of the
> discourse. -- Lyle McDonald
to the good reverend (not one of these ass fuckers to little boys we read
about I hope) - you left out the "ish" - it is not a Jew girl, it is a
Jew"ish" girl
>
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 07:46:33 +1000, "David" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Seth Breidbart" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >On 20 Oct 2003 14:50:57 -0700, [email protected] (Betty Sue Stein)
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>Christ is a false prophet. As a proud Jewish girl, I speak from
>experience.
>> >
>> >What does a jew girl have to be proud of already?
>>
>> Not being a brain-dead bigoted asshole like "The Revd Terence
>> Fformby-Smythe". Not that that's much to be proud of, but it's more
>> than you have.
>>
>> Seth
>> --
>> This is mfw, nobody wants to raise the quality of the
>> discourse. -- Lyle McDonald
>
>to the good reverend (not one of these ass fuckers to little boys we read
>about I hope)
Quite so. But you can read about mohels who do strange things to
little boys at: www.sexuallymutilatedchild.org/mohel.htm
> - you left out the "ish" - it is not a Jew girl, it is a
>Jew"ish" girl
My mistake. I thought it was the female equivalent of "jew boy". I
do apologise.
--
"If I'd known I'd have picked the cotton myself"
- Bumper sticker seen in Virginia
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Chupacabra" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:39:50 GMT, "The Puppy Wizard"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >HOWEDY Sarah Jane,
> > >
> > >"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > >news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in
> > >the
> > >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> > >
> > >HOWER dog lovers sez he'll think it's his den and won't relieve
> > >hisself
> > >there. That'll teach IT not to fHOWEL your HOWES. As a scientist,
> > >HOWE
> > >would you EXXXPLAIN David not thinkin likeWIZE? What's good for
> > >the goose...
> > >
> > >Question come up here abHOWETS the other day, if he can have
water
> > >in the crate? Would not that likely be turned into WHINE?
> > >
> > >HOWE COME lockin a DOG in a box is GOOD and lockin a man in a
> > >box is BAD, even given all the WHINE he can handle? You can just
> > >IGNORE IT till he's QUIET and then take him HOWET for a walk an
> > >cookie. Only takes a couple times to teach a dog he's got no food
> > >water or a toilet an he don't know if you're comin back, just
like
> > >J.C.
> > >
> > >Better to BELIEVE his Master will return, as otherWIZE, he's
DEAD.
> > >
> >
> > <shit snipped>
> >
> > Is that English?
>
> looks like they are letting 'em use computers in the loony bin
Jerry Howe is a well-known...infamous, actually...troll on the dog
ng's.
He is confined to a state mental institution, but gets internet
privilages. I suspect he's cheeking his anti-psychotic meds.
David
>
>
Thanks for the advice.
Hey, why don't we all buy some guns, join the NRA, string up some
minorities, and shoot some gays while we're at it. Better yet, lets
all become priests so we can touch some young boys!
I hope you and Charleston Heston have a nice life together.
[email protected] (The Sperminator) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> Holy Ghost.
>
> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>
> Just a kind bit of advice.
"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> >
> > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[email protected]...
> >> >> In <[email protected]> David
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:[email protected]...
> >> >> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people
> >> >> >> need to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the
> >> >> >> Messiah that the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not
> >> >> >> King David. It is not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the
> >> >> >> Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as
> >> >> >> their Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in
> >> >> >> paradise.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > his ass ain't worth saving
> >> >>
> >> >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in the
> >> >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> >> >
> >> > show us your tits
> >>
> >> Oh, I guess you didn't find the JPEGs. ;)
> >
> > yes SJ found 'em - why do you think I've not posted for the last 5
> > mins?
>
> But what were you doing for the other 4 minutes and 55 seconds?
jesus! no wonder Bessie seems pissed off all the time (that's my sheep)
"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> >
> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need
> >> to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that
> >> the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is
> >> not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ),
> >> and the Holy Ghost.
> >>
> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> >> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >>
> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
> >
> > his ass ain't worth saving
>
> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in the
> closet, David. (you, not him)
show us your tits
[email protected] wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On 5 Oct 2003 15:01:09 -0700, [email protected] (The
> Sperminator) wrote:
>
> >I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> >be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> >modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> >Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> >Holy Ghost.
> >
> >All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> >Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >
> >Just a kind bit of advice.
>
> What was Jesus' ethnicity?
> ---
> for healthy, natural, environmentally friendly foods in Minnesota go to
> http://wholefarmcoop.com
Jesus was a Jew. The Jews before Christ's crucifixion were the one
true religion. However, the Jews of today are sinners who need to
accept Christ before they die or they will not be rewarded eternal
life.
"Phil Foreskin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "David Cohen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Chupacabra" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:39:50 GMT, "The Puppy Wizard"
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >HOWEDY Sarah Jane,
> > > > >
> > > > >"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > >news:[email protected]...
> > > > >
> > > > >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in
> > the
> > > > >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> > > > >
> > > > >HOWER dog lovers sez he'll think it's his den and won't relieve
> > > > >hisself
> > > > >there. That'll teach IT not to fHOWEL your HOWES. As a scientist,
> > > > >HOWE
> > > > >would you EXXXPLAIN David not thinkin likeWIZE? What's good for
> > > > >the goose...
> > > > >
> > > > >Question come up here abHOWETS the other day, if he can have
> > water
> > > > >in the crate? Would not that likely be turned into WHINE?
> > > > >
> > > > >HOWE COME lockin a DOG in a box is GOOD and lockin a man in a
> > > > >box is BAD, even given all the WHINE he can handle? You can just
> > > > >IGNORE IT till he's QUIET and then take him HOWET for a walk an
> > > > >cookie. Only takes a couple times to teach a dog he's got no food
> > > > >water or a toilet an he don't know if you're comin back, just
> > like
> > > > >J.C.
> > > > >
> > > > >Better to BELIEVE his Master will return, as otherWIZE, he's
> > DEAD.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > <shit snipped>
> > > >
> > > > Is that English?
> > >
> > > looks like they are letting 'em use computers in the loony bin
> >
> > Jerry Howe is a well-known...infamous, actually...troll on the dog
> > ng's.
> >
> > He is confined to a state mental institution, but gets internet
> > privilages. I suspect he's cheeking his anti-psychotic meds.
> >
> > David
> > >
> > >
>
> David, are you Jewish?
A guy I met the other day . . . had a hunch he was Jewish so I asked him
straight out "Are you Jew?" - he kind of hunched his shoulders and
said "ish"
"David Cohen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Chupacabra" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:39:50 GMT, "The Puppy Wizard"
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >HOWEDY Sarah Jane,
> > > >
> > > >"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > >news:[email protected]...
> > > >
> > > >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in
> the
> > > >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> > > >
> > > >HOWER dog lovers sez he'll think it's his den and won't relieve
> > > >hisself
> > > >there. That'll teach IT not to fHOWEL your HOWES. As a scientist,
> > > >HOWE
> > > >would you EXXXPLAIN David not thinkin likeWIZE? What's good for
> > > >the goose...
> > > >
> > > >Question come up here abHOWETS the other day, if he can have
> water
> > > >in the crate? Would not that likely be turned into WHINE?
> > > >
> > > >HOWE COME lockin a DOG in a box is GOOD and lockin a man in a
> > > >box is BAD, even given all the WHINE he can handle? You can just
> > > >IGNORE IT till he's QUIET and then take him HOWET for a walk an
> > > >cookie. Only takes a couple times to teach a dog he's got no food
> > > >water or a toilet an he don't know if you're comin back, just
> like
> > > >J.C.
> > > >
> > > >Better to BELIEVE his Master will return, as otherWIZE, he's
> DEAD.
> > > >
> > >
> > > <shit snipped>
> > >
> > > Is that English?
> >
> > looks like they are letting 'em use computers in the loony bin
>
> Jerry Howe is a well-known...infamous, actually...troll on the dog
> ng's.
>
> He is confined to a state mental institution, but gets internet
> privilages. I suspect he's cheeking his anti-psychotic meds.
>
> David
> >
> >
David, are you Jewish?
Robert Schuh <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<H6rgb.9777$hp5.9507@fed1read04>...
> The Sperminator wrote:
>
> > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > Holy Ghost.
> >
> > All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >
> > Just a kind bit of advice.
>
>
>
> Who the fuck is this asshole? I have seen him in 2 newsgroups now.
> Needless to say, he is a moronic bigot. Go take a nap in the garage with
> the car running Mr. Sperminator!
Rob, I am beginning to think that you are a fucking troll. Why are you
always picking on my friends like The Puppy Wizard and The
Sperminator?
"Robert Schuh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> BRuce wrote:
>
> > [email protected] wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> >
> >>On 5 Oct 2003 15:01:09 -0700, [email protected] (The
> >>Sperminator) wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> >>>be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> >>>modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> >>>Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> >>>Holy Ghost.
> >>>
> >>>All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> >>>Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >>>
> >>>Just a kind bit of advice.
> >>
> >>What was Jesus' ethnicity?
> >>---
> >>for healthy, natural, environmentally friendly foods in Minnesota go to
> >>http://wholefarmcoop.com
> >
> >
> > Jesus was a Jew. The Jews before Christ's crucifixion were the one
> > true religion. However, the Jews of today are sinners who need to
> > accept Christ before they die or they will not be rewarded eternal
> > life.
>
>
> Fuck off you bigoted asshole.
Yes - but bigoted assholes also need to accept Christ before they die or
they will not be rewarded by infernal death.
>
"gps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> David wrote:
> >
> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > > Holy Ghost.
> > >
> > > All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > > Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> > >
> > > Just a kind bit of advice.
> >
> > his ass ain't worth saving
>
> That's not what you said last night.
> ps
things are never the same the next day :)
"BRuce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > On 5 Oct 2003 15:01:09 -0700, [email protected] (The
> > Sperminator) wrote:
> >
> > >I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > >be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > >modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > >Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > >Holy Ghost.
> > >
> > >All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > >Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> > >
> > >Just a kind bit of advice.
> >
> > What was Jesus' ethnicity?
> > ---
> > for healthy, natural, environmentally friendly foods in Minnesota go to
> > http://wholefarmcoop.com
>
> Jesus was a Jew. The Jews before Christ's crucifixion were the one
> true religion. However, the Jews of today are sinners who need to
> accept Christ before they die or they will not be rewarded eternal
> life.
do the Jews of today sin as bad as the Catholic priests who fondle little
boys?
HOWEDY Sarah Jane,
"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in
the
> closet, David. (you, not him)
HOWER dog lovers sez he'll think it's his den and won't relieve
hisself
there. That'll teach IT not to fHOWEL your HOWES. As a scientist,
HOWE
would you EXXXPLAIN David not thinkin likeWIZE? What's good for
the goose...
Question come up here abHOWETS the other day, if he can have water
in the crate? Would not that likely be turned into WHINE?
HOWE COME lockin a DOG in a box is GOOD and lockin a man in a
box is BAD, even given all the WHINE he can handle? You can just
IGNORE IT till he's QUIET and then take him HOWET for a walk an
cookie. Only takes a couple times to teach a dog he's got no food
water or a toilet an he don't know if you're comin back, just like
J.C.
Better to BELIEVE his Master will return, as otherWIZE, he's DEAD.
Clearly corporal punishment, withdrawal of interaction,
banishment,
and fear force or intimidation would only strengthen his faith, as
HE
done, when HE died for you sins. Is HE DEAD?
Science sez "dunno, don't make no SENSE."
So they lock Davie's in boxes and ignore his WHINE till they break
his FAITH in gettin HOWETA there safe an SHOWEND without gettin
HURT someMOORE. Or, they put a long line on ITS pronged spiked
pinch choke collar and jerk and choke IT or spray IT in the face
with
aversives till IT learns to ENJOY being QUIET and accepting of ITS
new safe HOWES:
> lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
> For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
> pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
> When he barks, use the line for a correction.
>
>>- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
>>
>>Lynn K.
lying "I LOVE KOEHLER (Banned in Arizona as CRUEL)" lynn sez
you can use a shock collar too.
Many dogs get PHYSICALLY ILL from STRESS from just bein crated.
See "starry's scary night" and "Crate Training JERRYIZED" and The
Puppy Wizard's Full Canvass Jacket Award winning post "Fear Of
Thunder And Pronged Spiked Pinch Choke Collars."
janet boss's dog Franklin screamed and barked and cried for THREE
WEEKS straight cause she locked IT in a box. He's legendary for
scoffin dHOWEN anything he can find an swallowin it in a
heartbeat.
Got hisself abdominal surgery over it and nearly busted his
stitches
HOWET trying to escape his box after surgery.
It's IN The Puppy Wizard's Archives:
Takes a few minutes to train a dog not to take or chew anything,
but you
got to stop PUNISHING INTIMIDATING and FORCING. THAT'S HOWE
COME dogs an kids and Davids do things behind your back soon as
you aren't there to "catch them in the act." Ask perry
(bentcajungirl)
abHOWET her DEAD DOG Maggie eatin Gorilla Glue an invitin the
woodworking group over to The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Forum.
Welcome back, Gorilla Glue fans!
HERE'S HOWE to get HOWER Davids into the box:
>>lynn kosmakos (Lithium, Zoloft, bipolar, manic,
>> depression) will "put down a biter
>> as fast as anyone" yet claims to
>> be a saintly dog rescuer
Just open the door and throw in a handful of psychotropics
an shut the door behind him. Leave NO water, as that could
make him bepiss hisself an since there ain't no TOILET, you
don't want to UN HOWEsbreak them or worse, find that they
turned it into WHINE and got fermented. Of curse, the other
alternative is to just KILL him to be FAIR and to enhance your
shelter experience:
>>Lynn K. wrote:
>>
>>"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
>>one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
>>schedules and duties causes a great deal of
>>scheduling overhead.
>>
>>And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
>>volunteers get the meaningful experience that
>>they work for.
>>
>>Someone has to be responsible for that
>>Volunteer Program, and it is best done
>>by a non-volunteer."
>>
>>Lynn K.
>>---------------------------------
>>
>>"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
>>every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
>>effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
>>older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.
>>
>>Should I have refused to groom them?
>>
>>Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
>>had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."
>>
>>Lynn K.
>>--------------------------------------
That's HOWE COME WON shouldn't take psychotropics
or trust anyWON who HURTS and KILLS dogs to help them..
"If you talk with the animals, they will talk with you and
you will know each other. If you do not talk to them, you
will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear.
What one fears, one destroys."
Chief Dan George
Adapted with permission from his FREE copy
of The Puppy Wizard's FREE WWW Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual.
"Only the unenlightened speak of wisdom and right action
as separate, not the wise. If any man knows one, he
enjoys the fruit of both. The level which is reached by
wisdom is attained through right action as well. He who
perceives that the two are one knows the truth."
"Even the wise man acts in character with his nature,
indeed all creatures act according to their natures.
What is the use of compulsion then? The love and
hate which are aroused by the objects of sense arise
from Nature, do not yield to them. They only obstruct
the path." Bhagavad Gita, adapted by Krishna with
permission from His FREE copy of my FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method manual.
Force training JERRYIZES David's, and GETS THEM DEAD.
Every correction is like our dog lovers seeing a new post
from Jerry and every minute of crate anxiety is like reading
another "thanks Jerry, your method/machine saved my dog's
life" post from The Puppy Wizard's FREE Wits' End Dog
Training Method Manual students...
Now you know HOWE COME professor "SCRUFF SHAKE
and SCREAM 'NO!' into ITS face and lock IT in a box for
ten minutes contemplation" dermer's (of the department of
ANAL-ytic behaviorISM at UofWI) little DEATHLY ILL dog
Maxie The Magnificent Masturbator masturbates furiHOWESLY
and compulsively on his couch if he doesn't get his five miles
of road work every day.
When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
"It is by muteness that a dog becomes so
utterly beyond value."
Like a confessor Priest? Don't bet your dog
won't tell on you...
"With him, words play no torturing tricks.., "
John Galsworthy.
Their behaviors reflect our words, actions
and training quirks. Jerry HOWE.
"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress
can be judged by the way its animals are treated."
~ Mohandas Gandhi -- Adapted with permission from
his FREE copy of The Puppy Wizzzard's FREE Wits'
End Dog Training Method Manual. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is
ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third,
it is accepted as being self-evident.
-Arthur Schopenhauer
"I know that most men, including those at ease with
problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept
even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would
oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they
have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly
taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
thread, into the fabric of their lives."
-Leo Tolstoy-
Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
more complaints to my personal email than any other
controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:
CAVEAT
If you have to do things to your dog to train him that you
would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing
them. If you have a dog trainer who tells you to jerk your
dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes,
shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, chin cuff, scruff shake or
punish your dog in any manner, that corrections OF ANY
KIND are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as
the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they
can't train your dog to do what you want NEARLY
INSTANTLY, look for a trainer that knows HOWE.
Sincerely,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
http://www.doggydoright.com
The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
-Francis Bacon-
There are terrible people who, instead of solving a
problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
should, please, not hit at all.
-Nietzsche-
The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
learned qualities.
The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
develop and continue to grow to make him smarter.
The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on
praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant
corrections, and scolding.
-Jerry Howe-
The Puppy Wizzzard
<}TPW ; ~ } >
ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
,-._,-,
V)"(V
(_o_) Have a great day!
/ V)
(l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}YPW ; ~ } >
oo-oo
The Sperminator wrote:
> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> Holy Ghost.
>
> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>
> Just a kind bit of advice.
Who the fuck is this asshole? I have seen him in 2 newsgroups now.
Needless to say, he is a moronic bigot. Go take a nap in the garage with
the car running Mr. Sperminator!
"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> >
> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need
> >> to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that
> >> the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is
> >> not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ),
> >> and the Holy Ghost.
> >>
> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> >> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >>
> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
> >
> > his ass ain't worth saving
>
> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in the
> closet, David. (you, not him)
SJ -that damn closet again - how many closets you got? i think you need to
take that guy's advice - it's too late for David but maybe you can still be
saved -
EVERYONE needs to forward this guy's post, with full headers, to
[email protected]. THE only reason he posts is to SPAM his dog
training business. He is a SPAMMER and a first class asshole.
The Puppy Wizard wrote:
> HOWEDY david,
>
> "David Cohen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Jerry Howe is a well-known...infamous, actually...troll on the
>
> dog
>
>>ng's.
>
>
> The Puppy Wizard has CURED ALL BEHAVIOR problems
> NEARLY INSTANTLY, and FOR FREE, from settin right
> here, stark ravin nekkid. GAWD I hate these paper slippers.
>
>
>>He is confined to a state mental institution, but gets internet
>>privilages.
>
>
> Thanks to wireless connections, keyboard and mHOWES.
>
>
>> I suspect he's cheeking his anti-psychotic meds.
>
>
> Sometimes you can get a really good buzz if you save
> up enough an swaller them all at WON time. Try it!
>
>
>>David
>
>
>
> "Almira Happy1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]..
> .
>
>>i can understand how you all feel about his posts...if i
>>remember correctly...after i told him my name and that i
>>post here..i said...your not going to be mean to me are
>>you....he just laughed..he is so unlike some of his
>>post....he told me he was available 24/7 if i ever needed
>>his help..
>>i mentioned about the things he says in his posts...he
>>said he was tired of people calling him names and
>>accusing him of lying about his referrals and his
>>methods..and thats why he does it...he never once
>>mentioned anything about the black box or trying to
>>sell me anything..
>>
>>his manual is free for anyone to copy....
>>
>>iknow it must be hard for you to believe what i've said
>>about him...but everything i said is true...
>>
>>all i can suggest is give his methods a try...what can it
>>hurt...and if you don't believe me or think he's pulling a
>>slick one....call him...i asked him if he had a few minutes
>>to talk with me...he said he had all the time i needed...
>>
>>he's nothing at all like he appears to be sometimes in
>>here..maybe your dog doesn't need help...but mine does
>>have some issues that i think need addressing...and i
>>honestly feel like i've gone to the right person for help....
>>
>>i'm sorry if i offended anyone in here with my post about
>>him...i like all of you and you gave me the inspiration to
>>keep this dog...and i just want to make sure he will be
>>the best he can be...and i feel Jerry can help me with
>>this....
>>
>>thanks for hearing me out and i hope
>>you will still welcome me in this group...Almira
>
>
>
> =====================
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
> To: Andrew
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:08 AM
> Subject: DOGGIE DO RIGHT, wanna join the party?
>
> Andrew, Jerry Howe is here as I type and we have decided to
> create a human mellowing branch and to sell the marvel mystery
> device. Here is my first draft. What do you think?
>
> George
>
> Friends and colleagues:
>
> A couple of years ago I became interested in Doggy Do Right
> (DDR) a sonic device which inhibits barking in your neighbors'
> yappy dogs. I tested the instrument and became pleased at the
> silence in our neighborhood.
>
> I perused the manual for the DDR which has significant
> guidance for loving your own dog so that the wee beast no
> longer leaps up on you, howls, whines, tears up your shoes,
> escapes, digs holes, spins around, throws up in the car, eats
> paper, self-mutilates, fears thunder, suffers when you go to
> the store and don't take him, and all the other ills and
> behavior problems to which the domesticated dog is prone.
>
> Jerry Howe, the inventor of the DDR, understands doggy
> behavior so well he might well have been a student of Sam
> Corson (Pavlov's last student who fixed hyperactive dogs, and
> started our profession, as well as the profession of "Pet
> Facilitated Therapy").
>
> It occured to me that we might put ourselves out of work. If
> a sonic device can mellow hyperactive dogs, why wouldn't it do
> so for hyperactive kids and neurotic adults?
>
> So, I am inviting a few friends and colleagues to join me in
> forming a company, which will lease BABY BE GOOD; HAPPY
> BOY; SWEET LITTLE GIRL; MAMA BE MELLOW; PAPA BE
> STRONG - these are just first pass names for the device in its
> several adjustments. Jerry Howe, genius inventor says you
> have to refine the adjustment for .
>
> More than a thousand owners agree that DOGGY DO RIGHT
> happifies the dogs next door so they don't bark. DOGGY DO
> RIGHT also happifies the dog in your home so that she doesn't
> do all the unwanted, unpleasant things that dogs often do.
>
> AND!!! DOGGY DO RIGHT happifies the humans in your
> house so that they are more mellow, happy, quiet and not
> so dratted obsessive and angry.
>
> Problem here. Is this therapy? If so the poor little silently
> singing device needs $4,000,000 to do an FDA study.
>
> THANK GOD! IT ISN'T THERAPY!
>
> It is the same effect that Baroque music has on emotion, learning,
> behavior and memory. Baroque music mellows and enhances and
> so does DOGGY DO RIGHT.
>
> Of course, these wonderful results have to be proved, by
> acceptable means.
>
> =======================
>
> Jerry, don't think I sent this to you. A remarkable success
> for DDR - I keep wanting to call it, Doggie Be Good, DBG.
>
> Maybe we ought to try it as an alternate name! Set up your
> own competition.
>
> Fondly, George
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andy
> To: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: Doggie Do Right;
>
> I have to agree with George. I found out about this and asked
> George to look into it. Got good results, so I bought one. I
> have 6 LOUD dogs outside my back window, chained up all the
> time, less than 50 feet behind the house. They used to keep me
> up nights until I bought the DDR machine. Now, quiet.
>
> Yes, they bark when someone gets too close at odd hours, but
> then they stop. Used to be they would bark for hours. (Their
> owner must wonder what happened, I called the cops a couple of
> times, but didn't want to drag him into court.)
>
> Andy
>
> At 05:06 PM 5/5/2003 -0400, George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
> wrote:
>
> Doggie Do Right; Kitty Will; A Rooster did and a Cockatoo or
> two did too.
>
> The inventor is visiting with me. I am severely impressed.
>
> So, I wanna know, do you wish to explore with me the marketing
> of this device.
>
> Greg tried the machine out; Andy has one; I can't recall if I
> told John about it or not. You'd love the guy, he looks like
> Johnie Appleseed before his hair went white, long black
> beard, but no bs.
>
> Not defensive at all when I asked the hard questions; a bit of
> an idealist when it came to making money, but he's sold a
> thousand of the damned things, and has some very solid
> references.
>
> I ran his EEG when the instrument was broadcasting and
> damn it changed the brainwaves. Hot rats.
>
> I think we could do good, and do well, too.
>
> The point of it is that my evidence is that it will calm down
> kids, stop seizures, and mellow out their parents. We have to
> prove this, but he already has a psychiatrist with excellent
> comments; and me; and sampling his sales will build a lovely
> package. 1000 sold already.
>
> I made another trial with new dogs just up the street and the
> damned things shut up. The dogs next door have remained
> silent since I first tried it a year ago.
>
> What ya think? George
>
> =============================
>
> A non dog owner, Dr. Von, a child psychogist and
> biofeedback training specialist, tested my machine
> at the request of one of his friends who wanted his
> opinion as to the efficacy of my machine. He loves
> the concept, as it mirrors his approach to educating
> difficult children:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:21 PM
> Subject: [GVS]doggydoright
>
> I just had a nice talk with the man who invented
> the "doggydoright" device.
>
> If you know someone working at a shelter etc
> who wants to quieten the dogs in the neighborhood
> then this is an ideal present for them - and he will
> sell it at a discount. He sounds like someone we
> all know who has no sense at all about money.
>
> Nice, nice man.
>
> "doggydoright" may be obtained from
> [email protected]
>
> I now have four locations at which the thing has worked,
> so I recommend it.
>
> Yap yap yap no more! I have zero financial interest in this.
>
> George
>
> ============
>
> The Puppy Wizard's
> Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did
> And A Cockatoo Or Two Did Too)
>
> - The Little Black Box That Cures Animal's Annoying Habits -
>
> Here are a few publicly posted, verifiable, unsolicited
> testimonials:
>
> From: Chris Williams ([email protected])
> Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
> Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST
>
> Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
> and your family.
>
> A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
> from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.
>
> She reports far fewer panic problems than
> she's had before.
>
> ============================
>
> Chris Williams writes:
>
> "The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
> I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
> I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
> New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
> the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"
>
> ====================
>
> Jerry says:
> HOWE'S the baby's seizures?
>
> parentadlitem says:
> better
>
> Jerry says:
> got any idea how much better?
>
> parentadlitem says:
> not really
>
> parentadlitem says:
> she doesn't do em here that i see
>
> Jerry says:
> amazing
>
> Jerry says:
> when's the last time she seized with you?
>
> parentadlitem says:
> weeks ago?
>
> Jerry says:
> but before the machine it was daily?
>
> parentadlitem says:
> every minute!
>
> Jerry says:
> does her mom use it at her HOWES?
>
> parentadlitem says:
> yup
>
> parentadlitem says:
> i yelled at her about it
>
> Jerry says:
> ask her when's the last time she saw a seizure for me
>
> parentadlitem says:
> k . she's sleepin now, ill talk to her tonight, she's comin
> over
>
> Jerry says:
> yeah... that's pretty good stuff
>
> parentadlitem says:
> yup
>
> parentadlitem says:
> i love mine
>
> parentadlitem says:
> no barkin the neighborhood at all anymore
>
> parentadlitem says:
> ever
>
> Jerry says:
> right
>
> parentadlitem says:
> once in a blue moon some distant dog will bark
>
> parentadlitem says:
> but all the neighbors dogs are quiet
>
> Jerry says:
> when you hear that distant dog throw the machine on
>
> parentadlitem says:
> we do
>
> parentadlitem says:
> it's really rare though
>
> =================
>
>
>>Nevyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>Hi There Jerry
>>
>>Its Nevyn. Sorry Ive not been posting, but I've been
>>working weekend work at the tracks with the greyhounds
>>(thanks to you!).
>>
>>Well my dogs are the envy of all on my street. I can
>>have them out in the yard with me, take them walking
>>without a leash, they will do any command with no
>>hesitation. And they don't bark anymore! Thanks to
>>your machine!
>>
>>Oh yeah, I loaned your machine to several friends
>>and family -- Here are some reports:
>>
>>"I would say my dogs are well trained, but they suffer
>>severe anxiety when no body is home. This machine
>>quietened them almost instantly - still they barked,
>>in the beginning, but just one or two barks. Then
>>slowly they just stopped... beginning to bark, then
>>instantly stopping.
>>
>>It took only 2 weeks, and we did nothing.
>>
>>Truly amazing;
>>
>>I have recommomeded it to my family, and perhaps
>>they will buy one. Its a shame you don't sell them publicly".
>>-- Kylie, 30, on dogs Lili (11 yr mutt bitch) and Sheeba (4 yr
>>Rotty X)
>>
>>
>>"My two dogs barked insanely when someone would
>>go past. With this little machine they quietened right
>>down, and even became partly obedient, and we did
>>nothing!
>>
>>
>>Great stuff.
>>
>>We ran it only on the lowest setting, too!"
>>- Ed, 65, on his two male Dobermans, 5 yrs old.
>>
>>Well I have some more, and am collecting more,
>>but I only have one machine so its a slow process.
>>Once again I say thankyou Jerry! My family was
>>on the verge of giving them up! :(
>>
>>But no longer :)
>>
>>=====================
>>
>>From: aimee ([email protected])
>>Subject: doggie do right
>>Date: 2002-08-01 06:57:15 PST
>>
>>doggie do right rocks!!
>>
>>We were sent one of these fantastic machines 5 months
>>ago to see if it would help with our rambunctious mutts.
>> The doggy do right has done more than just work...it
>>has worked miracles!
>>
>>Our pair of noisier than freight-train doggies were barking
>>so loud at our neighbours and passers by that we were just
>>about ready to find them new homes. But within just two
>>months of using the Doggy Do Right they were nice and
>>quiet and stopped barking at the neighbours.
>>
>>They did relapse a little when their owner went away,
>>but we started the program again and within days
>>they were both quiet and obedient once more.
>>
>>Our doggies have now not barked unnecessarily
>>for over 2 months.
>>
>>Thanks Jerry! You have made my dreams come true!
>>
>>Aimee.
>
>
>
>
> Subj: Fear of Thunder
> Date: 6/29/02 6:07:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: Jraltman
> To: Witsenddog
>
> Dear Jerry,
>
> I hope you'll be able to post this message so more people who
> are at their wit's end will be able to help their dogs.
>
> To review:
>
> Our puppy was uncomfortable during thunder storms.
> At the beginning of the problem, she paced restlessly
> from room to room. She couldn't settle and sleep.
>
> From there the problem grew. She would run to the
> far southeast corner of the house (which makes
> sense because most storms here come from the
> northwest) and she'd cower in the corner of the
> couch and shake.
>
> 1st attempt to help her:
>
> I'd pick her up, brush and massage her (call me a nut -
> I've sung to her when I've done her daily brushing since
> she was tiny so of course I sang too) and when she
> relaxed, I'd put her in her crate. She then slept and I
> thought the problem was solved.
>
> Traumatic event:
>
> We were out in the park playing with one of her doggy
> friends when it began to rain. On the way home, there
> was the loudest, longest, thunder clap I've ever heard.
> From that day on, the problem got worse and worse.
>
> I couldn't calm her with singing and massage. The
> fear spread. She wouldn't go out if it was raining.
> No thunder, just gently summer rain, and she
> wouldn't go out.
>
> The solution:
>
> I surfed the net and came across a free manual Wit's
> End Dog Training Method and a product called Doggy
> Do Right that seemed better than anything else I came
> across.
>
> A phone call to Jerry Howe, author of the manual and
> Director of Research, Biosound Scientific, convince
> me to try both the manual and the product.
>
> Problem solved:
>
> I followed Jerry's suggestions (more phone calls - he
> is most generous with his time and advice).
>
> The first two thunder storms my puppy was restless but
> not running around in a blind panic. The third storm, she
> barked her deep, stranger danger bark after each clap of
> thunder. The fourth storm, she seemed uneasy at first.
>
> Soon she was asleep at my feet and she napped through
> the rest of the storm. A miracle. I am endlessly grateful to
> Jerry for his manual and his machine.
>
> A word about Doggy Do Right. It is odd to buy a machine
> that emits a sound I cannot hear. I took the chance because
> Jerry offered a full refund including shipping.
>
> Though I heard nothing, my puppy clearly did. When I first
> turned on the machine, she got the cutest, most quizzical
> look on her face. She looked at me as if to say: "What's
> that? I never heard that before." She looks at the machine
> when it is on.
>
> She rests on the floor beneath it.
>
> It is obvious from her behavior that she is aware of its
> cycles.
>
> Amazing.
>
> Thank you Jerry.
>
> =============
>
>
> "misty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
> ebtv .net...
> > Jerry sent me the DDR when I mentioned my cockatoo
> > was stressed out by my then just learning to walk
> > baby.
>
> > Buddy was screaming day and night..lunging at Joey
> > whenever he crawled up to Buddy's cage and nipping
> > the baby ( if Buddy wanted to his beak is powerful
> > enough to sever an adult's finger in one snap!) At
> > first we noticed nothing... after a few days
> > ..nothing..nothing except quiet :-)
>
> > That's not to say Buddy never screams.. heh.. he'a a
> > 'Too.. but the late night scream-a-thons ended.
>
> > He also tolerates Joey playing in his water dish
> > <sigh> just what I want...2 splashers! Buddy loves
> > to bathe in his water until there's more water on
> > the floor and walls than in his dish :-)
>
> > Twice now Buddy has had marathon scream-a-thons...
> > for a few days each time. It takes that long for me
> > to realize the DDR is unplugged :-O
> > Once cos DH did some maintenance and forgot to plug
> > it back in ( of course he remembered to plug the
> > washing machine back in ;-P)
>
> > The second time I had unplugged it while
> > sweeping...and forgot to plug it back in...
>
> > We sure enjoy him being such a good bird! He's been
> > so loving to everyone... my older 2 boys love being
> > able to give him scritches again.
>
> > ~misty
>
> > (No, Jerry, you can't have the DDR back just yet! :-)
>
> ===================
>
>
> Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue, Animal Commissioner
> Brevard Co FL, writes: Sep 9, 2000
>
> "I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful
> and the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right
> does indeed exist.
>
> I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing
> aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback,
> but our cats and even us.
>
> She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him
> to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any
> aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression
> towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl.
>
> It is not just my opinion that all this aggression
> existed before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by
> three vets to euthanize her.
>
> I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
> has helped my dogs and cats. I do think your product is a
> valuable tool in helping with aggression and other
> behavior problems.
>
> I am in Feral CatNetwork (we spay and neuter
> approximately 100 feral cats a month), I am also a member
> of a local AKC dog obedience club, member of a local AKC
> agility club, president of Pet Rescue, board member of
> the Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals (on the
> board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC
> dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of
> animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.)
> and Space Coast Feline Network
> http://www.spacecoastfelinenetwork.com
>
> Thanks, Elaine,
>
> ===================
>
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
> I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit. I have
> since borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung. She speaks very
> highly of it.
>
> So, I brought it home and plugged it in. Of course, I
> wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have
> every one immediately fall to the floor in little comas
> for a few hours. Well, after I got all 27 of them to be
> quiet, still no comas. But, it had only been 36 seconds
> at that point. So, I gave it a little longer. Still no
> comas. Was this really going to work? I mean, I do have
> an unusual situation.
>
> So, by bedtime, a few hours later. I started to notice
> just how many were asleep already - with their feet in
> the air! I started to have hope. During the night, all
> was calm. In the morning when I got up, only a few of
> them WALKED quietly to the door to go out. Not the usual
> evacuation.
>
> I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday
> Morning. I was certainly pleased with the night effect. I
> wasn't so sure about the amount of the day time effect.
> Until I took it back. Within half an hour, the monsters
> had resurfaced. I wondered if I could break into Elaine's
> house and if she would notice :)
>
> I know another person who does dog rescue. She rescues
> Beagles. She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house. God
> bless her. She is interested to see if it will work for
> her. I also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue,
> and she is interested. The cat rescue people have monthly
> meetings. Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it.
>
> So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way
> about the best way to use it in my case, I would
> appreciate it. I of course wanted to keep it on the
> highest setting, but don't know if that is advised, even
> with my situation of so many new ones coming and (too
> few) going.
>
> Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc. I
> think the vets should have the info in their offices. It
> must help dogs with separation anxiety. My vet practices
> homeopathic as well as traditional medicine, so I
> would think it would be right up her alley.
>
> Thank you.
> Desiree M Webber
> A New Leash On Life
>
> ================
>
> From: "Regina Guerrero" <>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:42 AM
> Subject: Thank You!
>
> > I just wanted to take a bit of time
> > to tell you how much I appreciate your product and
> > your training methods as well.
>
> > When my little Chihuahua first arrived
> > I was overwhelmed with her anxiety and
> > her ability to just Bark endlessly.
>
> > I received your product and at first I thought
> > I was using it wrong, because my puppy just seemed to
> > ignore it.
>
> > But after a week or two, she began to calm down
> > considerably as well as act more friendly towards
> > people on the street.
>
> > I can't believe the difference I see in my little
> > puppy. Your product is a life saver!
>
> > Thanks again for everything.
>
> > Sincerely,
> > Regina Guerrero
>
> ==================
>
> "misty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Jerry has taken the time to help me out off the NG. I have
> > a very loud cockatoo who has been having problems adjusting
> > to my 8 month old son.
> >
> > Joey is learning to walk. He likes to use Buddy's cage as a
> > hold on for dear life object.
> >
> > Buddy wasn't exposed to toddlers prior to Joey.. my older
> > two boys went through this stage in a different house where
> > Buddy had his own room and the boys had only visits, not
> > daily contact 24/7.
> >
> > Buddy has always been spooked by "tiny" humans. Joey has
> > been driving him nuts! He showed his disapproval by
> > non-stop screaming. A cockatoo scream can be heard a block
> > away with all the widows shut <g> being in the house it
> > makes your ears pop and your nerves crawl.
> >
> > Jerry sent me Free his DDR. He sent instructions on how to
> > use it. He answered my questions quite politely.
> >
> > I have been using the DDR in my kitchen ( where Buddy is
> > located~ teensy 4 room house) for 3 weeks.
> >
> > At first I noticed no difference in Buddy's behavior. Then
> > I realized after a week that he no longer screamed for
> > hours on end. This isn't to say he stopped completely <bg>
> > he still demands his share of all meals. But he doesn't
> > start screaming at 10 pm when he wants _everyone_ to go to
> > bed. Last week he had a day where he screamed all day. My
> > nerves were frazzled. I went to turn the DDR up a notch per
> > Jerry's instructions. I discovered the DDR was shut off! I
> > turned it back on and left it on the lowest setting. Buddy
> > calmed back down and quit screaming.
> >
> > In the time that I've had the DDR on I've had a lot of c*ts
> > come to my house. One I adopted and he's quite the sweetie.
> > He's a yellow tiger named Gatomon ( means c*t monster) who
> > is very friendly with my kids and Zelda.
> >
> > I may not like how Jerry treats other posters but I do like
> > the methods he shares. Being on a limited budget I like
> > things that are free. I also like the fact that I can
> > e-mail him and get advice whenever I need it.
> >
> > Even my DH who is a technical minded kind of guy thinks the
> > DDR is working. ( He went to Devry and has a degree in
> > electronics, knows alot about radios and anything
> > mechanical... he's a jack of all trades around the house
> > <g>). He does NDT for a living.
> >
> > We don't expect to need the DDR forever.. As soon as Joey
> > is walking, Buddy will realize that he's not a strange
> > animal.. some kind of furless dog or c*t <bg>.
>
> ==============================
>
> "Linda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Rosa Palmén" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:<[email protected]>...
>
>
>>Rosa, I got the doggy do right machine from Jerry
>>in Jan and my dog relaxed in the first week. He
>>does not have SA but he scratched himself raw
>>until I got the machine. He also was a frantic
>>chewer on his sticks until I got the machine.
>>
>>In less than a month he really relaxed. Now when
>>the machine in on he just lays down and goes to sleep.
>>
>>If there is something outside that upsets him like a
>>cat in the yard I just turn it on and he can cope.
>>
>>You will see all sorts of comments about the machine
>>being as loud as a freight train etc but it is small and
>>can not be heard by humans. I know he can hear it
>>and that it relaxes him because I can see him relax
>>when he hears it.
>>
>>I used the machine outside on the patio to quiet to
>> dogs behind us that barked a hundred times a day.
>>In two weeks they reduced the barking by 80%--
>>When they barked after the machine was on Sunshine
>>ran to the patio as they were alarm barking not just
>>barking to pass the time.
>>
>> I asked the owners if they had noticed the dogs barking
>>less and they said yes they had guessed the dogs were
>> just growing up.
>>
>>Sunshine loved daycare but he was kicked out when he
>>got aggressive but now than he has been trained with
>>Jerry's Wits End Method and the machine I think I will
>>let him go back to daycare.
>>
>>I am disabled so I can not run and play with him and
>>I know he needs to play with other dogs.
>>
>>Go to www.doggydoright.com and read about the
>> machine and get a free copy of Wits End Training
>>Manual--since the info is free you won't lose anything
>>and you can really help your dog.
>>
>>Linda and Sunshine
>
>
> -------------------------------
>
>
> "Anthony Testa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year
>>ago with my lovely wife linda. 3 times a week
>>for 7 months I visited the Dog shelter and
>>Humane Society looking for a German Shepherd.
>>There were several times they had a dog there,
>>but I was looking for a bitch. The reason for this
>>is, all my life I have always had a female German
>>shepherd. Therefore, I wanted another one. Finally
>>about 6 weeks ago, I found her. "Angel" looked
>>just like my previous dog of 12 years. I called my
>>wife, she came down and fell in love with her immediately.
>>We filled out the paper work and left the Humane
>>Society with her.
>>
>>We drove directly to Pet Smart to buy all the essentials.
>>We bought the biggest crate available. Let it be known I
>>have never used a crate with any of my previous dogs.
>>The biggest difference is my other dogs I had from puppy
>>age. Angel just turned 2, 3 days before adoption.
>>
>>Angel appeared to be happy the trip home. Her ears
>>were down all the time and her tail was so far between
>>her legs that it looked like she had 3 ears. (humor)
>>None the less, we knew we had a dog that was insecure.
>>The first night we let Angel sleep in the living room.
>>
>>However, we had to go to work the next day. We pet
>>her, kissed her and put her in the crate in the middle
>>of the living room. During the day, my sons came
>>home to walk her, give her a little loving and play with
>>her. Then put her back in the crate and go to work.
>>When we got home the first day, everything in the
>>crate was ripped to shreds.
>>
>>The neighbors approached us and said that the dogs
>>barked constantly for 3 hours then barked continuously
>>after my sons left again. We thought it was because
>>everything was new. We were wrong. The dig did
>> this every day for 4 days.
>>
>>The 4th day was our first scheduled visit with the
>>vet. The vet told us he can see that the dog is
>>suffering from abuse and separation anxiety. So,
>>the vet puts the dog on clomicalm. (not sure of the
>>spelling).
>>
>>Well, for two days the dog walked around like Jerry
>>Garcia on a Friday night after a concert, stoned!
>>However, we were home with her the entire weekend.
>>
>>We crated her for work and came home to a barking
>>dog, ripped bedding in the crate, upset neighbors
>>and the plastic bottom of the crate completely torn
>>to bits. It was obvious that crating was not a good thing.
>>
>>The next day we decided to leave her out of the crate
>>to see what would happen. What a major mistake.
>>We came home to almost $1,000 in damage.
>> Furniture, the blinds were all chewed and torn down, etc.
>>
>>The next day we put her in the crate again. This
>>time we came home to a nice 2' x 3' hole in our
>>carpet in the middle of the living room, right down
>>to the cement. I told my wife that we cannot afford
>>to keep this dog. We should go out and get a puppy.
>>
>>She was upset and said there must be something
>>we can do. I told her this. " I will go on the internet
>>and see what is available". I was desperate and
>>wanted to see if there was someone who could help.
>>
>>We read the information about the DDR and emailed
>>Jerry. Jerry was kind enough to give us his phone
>>number to discuss Angel in more detail.
>>
>>First, at no cost he sent us his manual. We started
>>doing exactly what he said to do in the manual.
>>Exactly as we did was was written, the results were
>>exactly as he said it would be. Then we purchased
>>the DDR.
>>
>>This is an amazing god send to us. First of all,
>>Jerry sent it to us without paying. (thanks for that
>>gesture) This has such and AMAZING effect. This testimonial
>>is kind of winded so I will say this......Jerry's product
>>literally saved this dogs life.
>>
>>Angel can be left alone during the day. NO CRATE. The
>>dog shows absolutely no sign of anxiety at all. Jerry told
>>us the product works immediately and it did! She does
>>not bark at all during the day except when the mailman
>>drops mail into the slot on the door. The manual for
>>training works exactly as it says!
>>
>>We told our vet about this and he said that there are
>>all kind of gimmicks. I told my vet that as a person who
>>holds a degree of higher education, there just are some
>> things they don't have in the text books and he should
>>be receptive to that. We are proof. Angel was one
>>day from going back to the humane society.
>>
>>Listen to this...My wife wrote one of the so called know
>>it all of pets. His response to the exact letter we
>>initially wrote to Jerry..."Get rid of the dog, bring her
>>back" I'll save this person embarrassment by not saying the
>>name. However, you know who you are and I have this to say
>>to you. Go pump gas or bus tables because you
>>sir, do not belong working with animals!
>>
>>Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
>>group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
>>many people are so dang blind or ignorant.
>>
>> You just keep plugging away at what you do, because
>>you my friend are a life saver!!!
>>
>>Anytime you need someone to speak about the results
>>of your product, you have my number. We would gladly
>>talk to them.
>>
>>Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...
>>Anthony & Linda Testa
>>
>>Jacksonville, Florida
>
>
> =====================
>
>
> A non dog owner writes:
>
> Dear Jerry-
>
> I just wanted to let you know how wonderful your Doggy Do
> Right product is. I was skeptical at first, but have been
> tremendously pleased.
>
> As you know, we had a neighbor's dog that was extremely
> bothersome, at times barking loudly for 3 hours straight.
> Within a few days, the barking decreased, and now it is
> just the occasional bark. this dog lives approximately
> 500 feet away, and even at that distance, the machine has
> done wonders.
>
> You were always available and patient to answer my
> questions, and now I can be in my own home without going
> nuts from the barking. As an added pleasure, all the
> other minor barking nuisances in the neighborhood have
> stopped as well.
>
> Quiet is wonderful! Thank you.
>
> Pam Graves
>
> ===========================
>
> "I know that most men, including those at ease with
> problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept
> even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would
> oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they
> have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly
> taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by
> thread, into the fabric of their lives."
> -Leo Tolstoy-
>
> Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
> more complaints to my personal email than any other
> controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:
>
> CAVEAT
> If you have to do things to your dog to train him that you
> would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing
> them. If you have a dog trainer who tells you to jerk your
> dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes,
> shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, chin cuff, scruff shake or
> punish your dog in any manner, that corrections
> are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as the
> punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they
> can't train your dog to do what you want, look for a
> trainer that knows HOWE.
>
> Thank you,
> Jerry Howe,
> Director of Research,
> BIOSOUND Scientific
> Director of Training,
> Wits' End Dog Training
> 1611 24th St
> Orlando, FL 32805
> Phone: 1-407-425-5092
> Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
> Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
> http://www.doggydoright.com
>
> Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
> -Francis Bacon-
>
> There are terrible people who, instead of solving a
> problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
> come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
> should, please, not hit at all.
> -Nietzsche-
>
> The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
> learned qualities.
>
> The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
> centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
> develop and continue to grow to make him smarter.
>
> The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on
> praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
> timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant
> corrections, and scolding.
> -Jerry Howe-
>
> The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
>
> ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
> ,-._,-,
> V)"(V
> (_o_) Have a great day!
> / V)
> (l l l) Your Puppy Wizzzard. <}YPW ; ~ } >
> oo-oo
>
>
>
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "BRuce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > On 5 Oct 2003 15:01:09 -0700, [email protected] (The
> > > Sperminator) wrote:
> > >
> > > >I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > > >be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > > >modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > > >Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > > >Holy Ghost.
> > > >
> > > >All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > > >Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> > > >
> > > >Just a kind bit of advice.
> > >
> > > What was Jesus' ethnicity?
> > > ---
> > > for healthy, natural, environmentally friendly foods in Minnesota go to
> > > http://wholefarmcoop.com
> >
> > Jesus was a Jew. The Jews before Christ's crucifixion were the one
> > true religion. However, the Jews of today are sinners who need to
> > accept Christ before they die or they will not be rewarded eternal
> > life.
>
> do the Jews of today sin as bad as the Catholic priests who fondle little
> boys?
>
>
I'm not sure, but I think it is sacrilegious to talk that way about someone
who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah and is going to Heaven.
Art
HOWEDY robert,
"Robert Schuh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:Mdrgb.9783$hp5.4130@fed1read04...
> EVERYONE needs to forward this guy's post, with full headers, to
> [email protected]. THE only reason he posts is to SPAM his dog
> training business.
It's FREE, robert. What kinda SPAM is FREE?
> He is a SPAMMER and a first class asshole.
You're a vulgar vile coward, robert.
HOWEDY kelly,
"culprit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "AIMEE" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > We had fallen into a rut - constant bickering and tension,
> > we never laughed or had FUN together - but now, with the
> > same mindset used in THE PUPPY WIZARDS dog training,
> > our communications channels have opened, and we now
> > work together instead of against one another.
>
> TPW saved your marriage?
INDEEDY.
> kick ass!
The Puppy Wizard doesn't approve of violence.
> that's a new one, innit?
NOT AT ALL, kelly.
> we better add that to the list of magical things the wiz can do!
INDEEDY.
> train all dogs perfectly, in minutes.
GUARANTEED.
> prevent seizures.
DONE THAT.
> make children behave better.
GUARANTEED.
> save bad marriages.
DONE THAT.
> am i missing anything?
INDEEDY. You're missing HUMAN DECENCY, MORALS, ETHICS, PRINCIPLES,
and ALL REASON.
> -kelly
And that ain't all The Puppy Wizard SPECIALIZES in, kelly.
> not really in need of saving, thanks.
NO PROBLEMO! You're inscribed in the book of eternal death.
You're a liar and a dog abuser and a MENTAL CASE.
lyingdogDUMMY wrote:
>
> Well, the newest shill on the scene must be Michael,
> because Jerry couldn't possibly spell "literalists."
Your reply doesn't even pertain to the subject...
Why don't we discuss why you feel you need hurt
animals to "train" them?
I've actually met TPW. I called him a few times with questions
about the training method, and he realized that there were some
underlying problems.
Axel (my dog) had a special situation.
So, TPW met with us in our home.
The first thing he noticed was that Axel's collar was too tight.
Weloosened it, and immediately Axel calmed down quite a bit.
We went outside and worked on the HOT AND COLD
HANDLING EXERCISE and THE FAMILY PACK LEADERSHIP EXERCIZE. That
seemed to get us headed in the right direction, but we were still
having a few problems with Axel's anxiety.
The main reason TPW visited our home - I found this our
recently during one of our conversations- was to see how
my husband and I interacted with one another. I had been
following the methods precisely, but Axel was still having
difficulty.
TPW's assumptions were correct - we were causing alot
of Axel's anxiety with our arguments and tension. TPW
told me that Axel has been one of his most difficult dogs
to work with.
Axel had his anxieties from mishandling and from my
husband and myself.
We had a few problems because I was unwilling to
accept the fact that I needed to be "nice" eventhough
I wasn't being treated "nicely", but once I realized that
was the only way I could really get Axel past his anxiety,
I worked on being a loving wife (even though I didn't really
want to be).
AND GUESS WHAT? My husband saw the difference,
and he followed suit.
Now, we have a stress free dog, and a good marriage.
Can you tell me how forcing someone (dog, person, cat)
to do what YOU want them to do, is going to improve a
situation? I tried that with my husband and with my dog,
and it didn't work with either of them.
Your methods have an 85% success rate - and my dog
was one of the 15% that doesn't accept your methods.
TPW has 100% success rate. You do the math.
If TPW hadn't helped us, Axel wouldn't be where he is today.
============================
Subject: Ask The Puppy Wizard
HOWEDY Aimee,
> my husband believes that this product is like ecstasy.
Well, for ME it IS... it's a dream come true. I got to ask
the Mrs. to keep pinchin me to believe it myself. My
DDR works like an AUTOMAGICK bio feeback trainer.
It uses a gentle sound, a beat, to entrain the brain,
like as if you was humming your favorite song. When
the critter is faced with a stressor, he AUTOMAGICKALLY
reflexes to that comfortable state of mind, to "hide"
from his fears. With repetition, the fears are "collapsed"
or over ridden, by the pleasant "tune."
There's a child psychologist currently testin DDR on
his hyperactive and learning disabled patients.
> Will this product in any way harm my dog?
Absolutely not. I've tested it on HUNDREDS of dogs
and kats whom I've known well and closely observed
over many years before offering my DDR for sale. It's
giving me better reports from users than I'd ever
imagined possible. It even stops cows from "bellowing."
> He has a severe anxiety disorder and cannot be left
> alone in our apartment -whether in his crate or left
> to roam free.
O.K., that's the problem! The crate in itself causes fear in
a twofold manner. Many dogs fear the crate because they
can't go to relieve themselves or have water, or become
anxious because it's a safe haven, a refuge he can run to
in order to hide from THINGS that scare him, like loud
noises, guests, whatever. Every minute he spends hiding
in there, increases his fears about what's goin on.
With repetition, just entering the crate even willingly,
restimulates ALL his fears, even when he goes in of
his on volition for no particular reason.
> We have tried just about everything...
Well, you just got LUCKY. I've got a comprehensive manual
available for free on my website. STUDY IT. Do the exercises,
and ask me for help if you've got questions or have difficulty.
Follow the method EXACTLY, don't vary, and ask me for help
FAST, if you don't get 100% success, nearly instantly.
There's absolutely NO reason your dog should have to
suffer separation anxiety for more than two days.
> This is our last resort.
First thing you've got to do is teach him your HOWES is his
HOWES, and that no matter what, you'll never be cross with
him.
That'll give him the confidence to stay alone withHOWET
supervision. Separation anxiety has nothing to do with
your absences, it's got to do with not having his controller
in charge of his behavior.
> Until we find some way to train him,
You just did. My tiny manual has ALL the information you need
to bring your dog to any level of proficiency in any field you
desire.
> he is living with my parents.
Good. Take a couple of days to study and practice the techniques
withHOWET your pup, then go pick him up and DO the exercises
in a couple of locations on your way back to your HOWES.
> Will this product help me get my Axel back?
The method and the machine both rely on constant praise.
The machine does a much more thorough job of convincing
the dog everything is O.K. It'll usually calm any anxious
outbursts in maybe as little as five seconds, for a dog that's
been conditioned to it for a few days. After a few months of
use, you'll not need to use it except on occasion.
I'd give you more info about the machine, but you got
enough reading ahead of you in my manual. Just rest
assured that if you desire the very best for you dog my
DDR machine will do just that. It's money back satisfaction
guaranteed forever cause there ain't nuthin better than it
in the Whole Wild World. You and your pets will LOVE it!
But start the manual first, cause that's gonna break the
cause of his anxiety.
Yours, Jerry.
"Katra" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Ok, so I care for an unusually large number of cats...
> And when you have this many, there are behavior
> problems. Not due to crowding, but some cats are
> territorial by nature.
>
> I checked out Jerry's site and found the science behind
> the BIOSOUND box to be sound. (no pun intended <G>)
> I am familiar with the concept of using sound therapy from
> my studies on deep meditation and had experimented with
> it already.
>
> So, I bought one.
>
> Results?
>
> The cats now sleep thru the night instead of spatting at 3 am.
>
> Taz, my brain damaged kitty, no longer wanders up the
> hall in the middle of the night, yowling when he gets "lost".
> (He's not the brightest bannana in the bunch. ;-) ) He's been
> sleeping quietly at my feet now for the past 3 nights I left the
> box running. He suffered a severe head injury as a kitten
> when he got hit by a car. That is how I got him. I picked him
> up out of the middle of the highway. :-(
>
> Thank the gods for good vets...
>
> Feeding frenzy time, when I dole out the canned food,
> used to be fraught with the more dominant kitties hissing
> at the undercats to get the best place at mom's feet. They
> always settled down once the food dishes were down, but
> now there has been NO fighting!
>
> They have been more obedient about staying off the sink
> and the dining room table,
>
> and, whomever it was that kept pooping in FRONT of the
> litter box on the floor has quit!
>
> Yay! I never did catch who was doing it.
>
> Overall, much calmer behavior from the cats.
>
> As for the dogs, the jury is still out on them. The shelties
> seem unaffected but it's impossible to tell with them as they
> were already calm, sedate, obedient and well trained dogs.
>
> With hyper Jewely, well, tonight she did not try to jump on
> me when I let her out of the bedroom to go potty, and she
> calmly sat at the door waiting to be let out instead of getting
> all anxious. I have not really tried serious training with her
> indoors near the box yet, except once, but not for long enough
> to see if it'd really work.
>
> Since some of the usual training methods are not working
> with her on the jumping problem, I plan to give Jerry's method
> a fair shake. The one time I tried it, yeah, she piddled, but I
> think that's because I did not do it right.
>
> I spoke with Jerry further by e-mail and I was not supposed
> to jump straight in to working on a specific behavior problem.
> I need to to the pre-training excercizes first!
>
> I'll post later on the results when I have more time to really
> concentrate on working with her near the box.
>
> In the meantime, the box DOES seem to calm the animals
> and make it easier to work with them. The results alone on
> the cats have made it worth every penny.
>
> And if it can increase Jewely's attention span........ ;-)
>
> Leah might want to try one on Maddie? <shrugs>
>
> He may be hostile on the list, but he IS honest and honors
> his money back guarantees, so you won't be out anything
> if you just decide to try it like I did!
>
> Katra
=============================
From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Subject: Can we get specific about doggydoright without rancor?
Date: 2003-01-13 08:00:29 PST
"Donna" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
>
> Just a question... Got Jerry on kill-file too, but what is this
> "doggiedoright" thing???
>
> Donna
It's a smallish box with ac adapter. It emits a "song". A sound
unheard by the tympanic membrane. It regulates brain waves
and calms the subject down. I got mine yesterday.
I have two pitties, my neighbor on one side has an infant pitty
and the other neighbor on my left has a pitty mix, greyhound
and pig. Her dogs bark CONSTANTLY!
All hours of the night.. she lets em out for last call around 1am.
We put ours on our kicthen window sill so the animals outside
and inside can hear it. Anyway.. for the first time my dogs slept
peacefully.
I also did some training with jerry and hise wife yesterday,
between that and the machine my dogs ignored the dogs barking.
A mere quiet growl from my oldest dog, a good girl good job! and
she went back to sleep.. an abolsolute first in this house.
My nieghbors dogs continued barking.. the machine was
not set to play.. so i reset it.. and they shut right up.
The whole nieghborhood was quiet for the first time.
Neighbors dogs are still behaving today.
I will be loaning it to my father in two weeks, once my dogs
remember the "song" and can learn to replay it to themselves
to calm themselves down, for his cockatiel who is home alone
alot.. and very bitchy.
I will also be buying one for my mom for her feuding kitty cats.
And finally I will be buying one for my friend who has two dogs
and a child with major seizure problems. I think this device will
help her daughters seizures since it controls and regulates brain
waves.
Since i'm not rich.. and these machines are $135 with shipping ...
when i say I am planning on buying three of them for friends.. you
know it works. I could always let them borrow it for free.. but
this machine is so kickass.. they need their own so their
neighbors dogs can be happy too.
================
Here's Aimee's original post and her first post to
The Puppy Wizard:
I own a black an tan coonhound. We got him as a puppy, and
due to constant mishandling (pulling on his lead, negative
corrections, and the occasional use of a bark collar) I ended
up with a very anxious dog.
I couldn't leave him home alone, I couldn't crate him, I couldn't
even take my dog for walks because he feared EVERYTHING.
I was going to have to get rid of him if things didn't turn
around.
My husband and I searched the internet for answers - AND
WE FOUND THE PUPPY WIZARD.
For all of you disbeliveers out there HIS METHODS WORK!
I've followed his manual, and we now have a dog that can be
left home alone, that heels on command, that can go outside
and NOT be afraid of everything he sees.
Not only have his methods help our dog, but our marriage
has gotten better. We had fallen into a rut - constant bickering
and tension, we never laughed or had FUN together - but now, with
the same mindset used in THE PUPPY WIZARDS dog training, our
communications channels have opened, and we
now work together instead of against one another.
For all the "Literalists" out there, NO WE DID NOT
TEACH EACH OTHER TO SIT, STAY, OR HEEL.
We simply eliminated the nagging and the acting out to get
NEGATIVE attention from one another since we weren't getting the
POSITIVE attention we wanted.
So, it's been proven - THE PUPPY WIZARDS METHODS
WORK. It's up to you to accept them. Yes, there's alot of
blame that we have to accept, but once we realize that we've
caused these problems to arise, we can strive to make things
better.
=================
"Phil Foreskin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "David Cohen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Chupacabra" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:39:50 GMT, "The Puppy Wizard"
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >HOWEDY Sarah Jane,
> > > > >
> > > > >"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > >news:[email protected]...
> > > > >
> > > > >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock
you in
> > the
> > > > >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> > > > >
> > > > >HOWER dog lovers sez he'll think it's his den and won't
relieve
> > > > >hisself
> > > > >there. That'll teach IT not to fHOWEL your HOWES. As a
scientist,
> > > > >HOWE
> > > > >would you EXXXPLAIN David not thinkin likeWIZE? What's
good for
> > > > >the goose...
> > > > >
> > > > >Question come up here abHOWETS the other day, if he can
have
> > water
> > > > >in the crate? Would not that likely be turned into WHINE?
> > > > >
> > > > >HOWE COME lockin a DOG in a box is GOOD and lockin a man
in a
> > > > >box is BAD, even given all the WHINE he can handle? You
can just
> > > > >IGNORE IT till he's QUIET and then take him HOWET for a
walk an
> > > > >cookie. Only takes a couple times to teach a dog he's got
no food
> > > > >water or a toilet an he don't know if you're comin back,
just
> > like
> > > > >J.C.
> > > > >
> > > > >Better to BELIEVE his Master will return, as otherWIZE,
he's
> > DEAD.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > <shit snipped>
> > > >
> > > > Is that English?
> > >
> > > looks like they are letting 'em use computers in the loony
bin
> >
> > Jerry Howe is a well-known...infamous, actually...troll on the
dog
> > ng's.
> >
> > He is confined to a state mental institution, but gets
internet
> > privilages. I suspect he's cheeking his anti-psychotic meds.
> >
> > David
> > >
> > >
>
> David, are you Jewish?
We could try crucifying him... along with these criminals
and mental cases:
> lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:
> For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and
> pass it through the crate door. Attach a line to it.
> When he barks, use the line for a correction.
>
>>- if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.
>>
>>Lynn K.
>
> ================
>
>>lynn kosmakos (Lithium, Zoloft, bipolar, manic,
>> depression) will "put down a biter
>> as fast as anyone" yet claims to
>> be a saintly dog rescuer
>
>>Lynn K. wrote:
>>
>>"I used to work the Kill Room as a volunteer in
>>one shelter.) But their ability to set their own
>>schedules and duties causes a great deal of
>>scheduling overhead.
>>
>>And it takes effort and thought to ensure that
>>volunteers get the meaningful experience that
>>they work for.
>>
>>Someone has to be responsible for that
>>Volunteer Program, and it is best done
>>by a non-volunteer."
>>
>>Lynn K.
>>---------------------------------
>>
>>"I worked with one shelter where I bathed and groomed
>>every adoptable dog on intake. I frankly felt that the
>>effort/benefit equation was not balanced for some of the
>>older/ill poodle/terrier mixes we got in badly matted condition.
>>
>>Should I have refused to groom them?
>>
>>Or even more pertinent - I was one of the people who
>>had to make the euthanasia decisions at that shelter."
>>
>>Lynn K.
>>--------------------------------------
> I'll be you've never had to put down litters of
> beautiful labrador puppies? If you had did, maybe
> you'd be singing a different tune?
"Actually, have held them for the tech to euth, and
put their bodies in the trash bag and in the freezer
for the trash company to come and dispose of.
No different tune," ~Emily
"I'll bet you don't know a thing about me. I volunteered
as assistant to the euthanasia tech at our local shelter
for a while, and I know a bit about overpopulation and
unwanted animals.
This however has nothing at all to do with responsible
breeders, because responsible breeders don't contribute
to that problem," Mustang Sally.
Are those MENTAL CASES, or NOT? Here's MOORE:
A NEW MVP,
NESSA DETHRONES MARYBETH!!
RPD* Ment_ally Ill All_StaRz as of 7/4/03
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MENTAL ILLNESS IN RPD*
Mental illness is a public issue in these newsgroups.
People are always running around calling other people
mentally ill and diagnosing their illnesses. I think it's
only fair that we have an accurate list of who is and
who isn't mentally ill, so that we can avoid any
misunderstandings and promote group harmony.
Updated KUCKOO!! KUCKOOO! DING! DING! DING!
list as of 9/25/2003:
list of confirmed or suspected mentally ill (crazy) Regulars
Most of whom are women or homosexuals
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NESSA Successfully dethroned MaryBeth as MVP
NUTCASE (Most Valuable Psycho) of dog newsgroups
MVP
Nessa blames all the problems in her life
most on ADD ADHD Or some other empowering acronym
valuable which encapsulates her futility for her
psycho
her dog bagel has used her house liberally
as a toilet since February of 2002. Drives
a 2003 Toyota Matrix, owns a house in
suburban MD, recently got a raise/promotion
to US goverment grade 11 (circa $50,000) and
promptly decided she couldn't afford her two
dogs. With help from non crazy regular
(Paulette) and witchcraft practicing regular
Sara Sionnach, Nessa has decided to keep her
dogs for the time being. She is undergoing
training from Janet "Nice Abdominal Surgery
and getting Run Over for the Family Pet."
Her results have not been dramatic.
CrAzy ReGulAr helping CraZy ReGular
Leah helping Nessa
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On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 8:40:08 -0400, Leah wrote
Nessa [email protected] wrote:
"As far as the depression goes, it's not
related to Bagel at all. I have
chronic major depression and I'm just having
a flare."
Leah asks
> Are you on any medication?
yes for depression, mood swings and ADHD.
I have been for over 10 years.
--nessa
Nessa is Fat as well as crazy
=============================
"For what it's worth...
I picked up 30 pounds when I started
Dilantin. I picked up (just recently) another
20 on risperidol.
I hate that I was a size 8-10 before meds and
now I am solidly (pun intended) a 22-24.
Sad part is, the side effects are worth it.
The positive effects
are too much to part with."
--nessa
NESSA'S HAS A GREAT NEUROPSYCH
==============================
Hi, I have a great neuropsych in Arlington Va.
He is at the Rosyln Metro Station. His name is
Martin Stein
1911 N Fort Myer Dr.
Suite 907
Arlington Va 22209
703-807-2471
email [email protected]
Marty is wonderful. He is really the best.
He has also given me permission to post his
infomation on this Newsgroup. If you call
him and see him by all means tell him Nessa
sent you.
--nessa
ROTATE YOUR STIMULANTS
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from: Nessa ([email protected])
Hi,
I often have to rotate my stimulants.
You can become used to them and sometimes
need a different one for a while. Until I
got on my Desoxyn I rotated Ritilan and
Dexedrine every 3 months or so.
It is true that anti-depressants or
anti-anxiety pills will help with the
stimulants so your DR is not wrong. However,
perhaps she needs to check into the idea that
a switch from cylert to something else might
be in order.
warm thoughts,
Nessa
MaryBeth
FMVP (former most valuable psycho)
Has contributed greatly to the annual profit
(super psycho results at several large pharmaceutical corps
bitch lunatic has taken virtually every mentally ill (crazy)
queen of the drug treatment in the book, and then some:
mentally prozac, zoloft, amitryptiline, Buspar, Xanax,
fucked effexor, paxil, HRT, wellbutrin, tranquilizers,
in the clomid,
head
has suffered from or been:
suicidal, agoraphobic, tidal waves of PMS,
mood swings, turned into a hermit, bloated,
just real angry, hubby afraid of her, high
blood pressure, divorced, "raving bitch"
"zoloft zombie" for four years, "living
through layers and layers of gauze," chain
smoker, buzzing, weight gain, fatigue,
terrible dry mouth, dull headaches, fuzzy
brain, lack of concentration..etc.
severe depression, severe insomnia, Panic
ALL the time, crying, not sleeping, you name
it...etc...
MaryBeth (on being seriously f'd in the head
aka mentally ill) aka cuckoo! kuckoo! ding! ding! ding!
aka a superpsychotic bitch from hell
"I know for a fact I went thru years of
being overly sensitive, being a b*tch,
being self centered, being self pitying,
you name it, I was a wreck and I ran over
everyone in my path."
"<G> I do know the power of meds, especially
on a long term basis, and it's not pretty.
You become another person, if it's not the
correct med for you.
--All the best,
MaryBeth
"Yup Diane, I am taking Zoloft, and my
Rheumatologist told me that taking
Ultram with it can cause seizures."
"I have all the symptoms.I am suicidal at
times (cyclical) have severe insomnia,
'crawly' skin etc. I have an appt to see
my doc next Friday to test for menopause."
--MaryBeth
"I noticed that antidepressants cut libido
into the dead zone and I had no real emotions,
like not laughing at funny stuff, couldn't cry
either.....except about my suicidal thoughts
(but at the time I thought there was no other
way out)."
--MaryBeth
"Hi, new to group, just starting Clomid today.
I talked with RE and pharmacist re: zoloft (50
mg daily) and ineraction with Clomid. They
reported none. Not sure about the prozac tho.
Gonna poat a new message to intorduce
myself :)"
--MaryBeth <still feeling
like herself> <G>
"I wasted about 10 years of my life, and lost
many many treasured ppl and things. Please
don't do the same. (((((((SCOUT))))))))))
--MaryBeth
"Slowly but surely my depression got worse and
worse. They put me on meds for it, and all
along kept telling me to wait on the TKR, as
'it really wasn't that bad.....yet". HA!"
The depression got so bad, and lots of other
things happened and my ex and I would up
divorced four years after our move. It was
horrible. The hardest thing I have eve gone
thru"
--MaryBeth
Theresa (paxil, depression, robot displacement)
Willis Theresa is a gang banger who comes out
of cutesy robot mode when it's time to
gang attack people with her pal shelly
shelly
couvrette OCD, depression, drugs to be named later
(familial mental illness, possibly related
to family bed) obsessively starves her
dogs according to friends, family,
strangers and 3 different vets, but
not herself (see below)
lynn
kosmakos (Lithium, Zoloft, bipolar, manic,
depression) will "put down a biter
as fast as anyone" yet claims to
be a saintly dog rescuer. Murders
dogs because of insurance rates
Leah Effexor for chronic depression, in denial
about being mentally ill. Has taken
several other mentally ill medications
before settling on effexor for her
chronic mental problems. Leah is
improving as a dog trainer and wants
to open her own training/boarding
kennel soon. This drives her fellow
mentally ill regulars nuts, especially
if she succeeds while they continue to
sit on their fat behinds
Tara Green was on antidepressants for a few years
prior to her marriage. During her
marriage, she learned a lot:
"With the therapist I saw during my
marriage I learned that some
situational depressions are masked as
chemical simply because of our too human
ability to prolong the impact of the
causal situations indefinitely"
Sounds like more denial, see leah
Tara is also a drunk who has also had
problems with other substances
TARA on being a drunk/substance abuser:
"Tara (who had some problems with quite a
few substances as well, but who thinks they
are separate issues.....so which camp does
that put me in???)"
"Believe it or not, some people don't have
a problem with drugs even though they are
alcoholics. I'm not one of those people,
but they do exist."
aka, tara has problems with both
Kevin various mental illness drugs, started with
Michael zoloft, didn't like that, then went to
Vail antidepressant, stopped after sufficent
side effects, now on SSRI and in therapy
Furpaw (SSRI, cognitive therapy)
Chris Jung (Prozac and Welbutrin, cognitive therapy)
Charlie drugged out, crazy, fucked up all his
Wilkes life, Christ the shit he's been through
including psych wards and electroshock
treatments but now pulling down major cash
as a business consultant. Triumphing over
adversity, with a damn good life and a
well trained dog (very much unlike Leah)
One of our most lucid regulars, despite
(or maybe because of?) a penchant for dope
smoking.
Karen
DuChateaux suffered from clinical depression for years
aka Karibear until some drug or something brought her out
of it. Some of her best friends "are
certifiable" and have various degrees of
psychoses. Familial mental disability.
Refuses to say whether or not she is
currently using drug or cognitive therapy
for mental illness.
Mike
"DumbOxDumb" threatened non violent dog expert Jerry Howe
Dufort with Mike's fully armed US Army Platoon.
Threatened to bring his platoon to Jerry's
HOWSE. also OCD (obsessed with Jerry's posts)
Jim "Brain
Shivers" Jim is currently on Effexor which he takes
Sabatke because of his depression/mental problems.
Like many of our mental cases, Jim has had
trouble finding the right med(s) to keep him
from going kuckoo!! kuckoooo!!! or getting
the "brain shivers"
From: Jim Sabatke ([email protected])
Subject: Re: anyone using Effexor?
alt.support.depression.medication
Date: 2002-11-29 20:25:16 PST
EFFEXOR
"I'm on 375 mg/day and it has worked
wonders for me. The only down side is
that my blood pressure has elevated
somewhat; oh and if I miss a dose by a
couple of hours the "brain shivers" can
be really bad.
Good luck!
Jim"
"I switched from Paxil to Effexor about
5 months ago. I tapered off of the Paxil
and tapered onto the Effexor at the same
time."
Jim
"After several years on Effexor IR, my
pdoc tried switching me to XR. I
experienced fairly severe Effexor
withdrawel until I went back to the IR."
Jim
<YOUR NAME GOES HERE>
(please proudly add your name and the drugs/disorders specific to
you,
if you are also mentally ill). If we all come forward, we can help
each other with our problems. Remember, mental illness is nothing
to
be ashamed of. It's not your fault if you have a defective brain
which
may cause you to act like an extreme hypocrite and/or idiot and/or
robot without your being aware of it).
Also, please notify us if you are *not* mentally ill, and have
been
added to this by mistake, so we can make our corrections and
remove
you from the crazy person list.
--
mental health weekly
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[email protected] (The Sperminator) wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> Holy Ghost.
>
> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>
> Just a kind bit of advice.
>
Well, my stars. I'll just get right on down to the local foot-washing, bible-
thumping house of bigotry and get myself washed in the blood of the lamb.
Dear me, why didn't someone mention this before?
dogsbody
Robert Schuh wrote:
> Art S wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure, but I think it is sacrilegious to talk that
>> way about someone who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah and
>> is going to Heaven.
>
> Hey Art,
> Why not take your bible and shove it up your ass??
I believe you misread the intent of Art's post.
--
-Wayne
"Robert Schuh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Art S wrote:
>
> > "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >>"BRuce" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>
> >>>[email protected] wrote in message
> >>
> >>news:<[email protected]>...
> >>
> >>>>On 5 Oct 2003 15:01:09 -0700, [email protected] (The
> >>>>Sperminator) wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need
to
> >>>>>be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that
the
> >>>>>modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> >>>>>Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and
the
> >>>>>Holy Ghost.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> >>>>>Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Just a kind bit of advice.
> >>>>
> >>>>What was Jesus' ethnicity?
> >>>>---
> >>>>for healthy, natural, environmentally friendly foods in Minnesota go
to
> >>>>http://wholefarmcoop.com
> >>>
> >>>Jesus was a Jew. The Jews before Christ's crucifixion were the one
> >>>true religion. However, the Jews of today are sinners who need to
> >>>accept Christ before they die or they will not be rewarded eternal
> >>>life.
> >>
> >>do the Jews of today sin as bad as the Catholic priests who fondle
little
> >>boys?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure, but I think it is sacrilegious to talk that way about
someone
> > who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah and is going to Heaven.
> >
> > Art
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Hey Art,
> Why not take your bible and shove it up your ass??
That could be the genesis of a brand new approach to religion -
>
"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> >
> > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> >> >
> >> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> > news:[email protected]...
> >> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people
> >> >> need to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the
> >> >> Messiah that the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not
> >> >> King David. It is not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father,
> >> >> the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost.
> >> >>
> >> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> >> >> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >> >>
> >> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
> >> >
> >> > his ass ain't worth saving
> >>
> >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in the
> >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> >
> > show us your tits
>
> Oh, I guess you didn't find the JPEGs. ;)
yes SJ found 'em - why do you think I've not posted for the last 5 mins?
this coming from a guy named the sperminator? and posting to
rec.pets.dogs.breeds... lol. that's kind of sick...
Kurt
"The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> Holy Ghost.
>
> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>
> Just a kind bit of advice.
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > Holy Ghost.
> >
> > All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >
> > Just a kind bit of advice.
>
> his ass ain't worth saving
>
How familiar are you with his ass?
In article <[email protected]>,
The Sperminator <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am a Christian male.
My condolences.
> I personally believe that Jewish people need to
>be saved before it is too late for them.
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There's no amount of rudeness in the world that can not be cured by the
judicious application of extreme violence. -- Roland Lee
"Betty Sue Stein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Christ is a false prophet. As a proud Jewish girl, I speak from
experience.
Oh yeah? What exactly was your experience?
"David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Carnivore269" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > gps <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > "Wayne S. Hill" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Robert Schuh wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Art S wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I'm not sure, but I think it is sacrilegious to talk that
> > > > >> way about someone who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah and
> > > > >> is going to Heaven.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Art,
> > > > > Why not take your bible and shove it up your ass??
> > > >
> > > > I believe you misread the intent of Art's post.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -Wayne
> > >
> > > Rob misread something? Surely you jest.
> > > ps
> >
> > God, I just finished reading thru this thread.
> > Most of y'all are SO fucked up!
> > How can ANY of you take religion seriously?
> > It is responsible for more horrific acts of cruelty
> > and inhumanism than any other concepts. All of them,
> > none accepted.
> >
how many wonderful acts of kindness? hmmm. just cruelty, mentioned. how
enlightening.
> > Embrace Atheism. That just MIGHT bring about world peace! :-P
>
yeah, RIGHT.
pop quiz. in the 20th century (which was really the first century that HAD
any significant # of atheist govt's) which govt's killed/murdered more of
their own people and/or innocents?
atheist leaders/govt's
OR
theist leaders/govt's.
crunch the #'s. let me help you a bit. Mao: forced starvation. Stalin,
Pol Pot, etc.
the "dream" of the utopians was that these new society and New Man (tm)
would free society. they didn't.
hey, religion may be the opiate of the masses, but atheist govt's are the
killers of the masses. furthermore, atheism is a belief system. it is just
as much a leap of faith, as theism.
regardless, the death tolls are chilling. and the atheist FAR outkilled the
theists. that's a statistical fact.
deal with it
whit
> Soon as I find Atheism, gonna embrace her, then we're going to her place
>
>
>
In article <[email protected]>,
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 20 Oct 2003 14:50:57 -0700, [email protected] (Betty Sue Stein)
>wrote:
>
>>Christ is a false prophet. As a proud Jewish girl, I speak from experience.
>
>What does a jew girl have to be proud of already?
Not being a brain-dead bigoted asshole like "The Revd Terence
Fformby-Smythe". Not that that's much to be proud of, but it's more
than you have.
Seth
--
This is mfw, nobody wants to raise the quality of the
discourse. -- Lyle McDonald
"The Puppy Wizard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> HOWEDY Sarah Jane,
>
> "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in
> the
> > closet, David. (you, not him)
>
> HOWER dog lovers sez he'll think it's his den and won't relieve
> hisself
> there. That'll teach IT not to fHOWEL your HOWES. As a scientist,
> HOWE
> would you EXXXPLAIN David not thinkin likeWIZE? What's good for
> the goose...
>
> Question come up here abHOWETS the other day, if he can have water
> in the crate? Would not that likely be turned into WHINE?
>
> HOWE COME lockin a DOG in a box is GOOD and lockin a man in a
> box is BAD, even given all the WHINE he can handle? You can just
> IGNORE IT till he's QUIET and then take him HOWET for a walk an
> cookie. Only takes a couple times to teach a dog he's got no food
> water or a toilet an he don't know if you're comin back, just like
> J.C.
must be a full moon
"The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> Holy Ghost.
>
> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>
> Just a kind bit of advice.
his ass ain't worth saving
"Carnivore269" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> gps <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "Wayne S. Hill" wrote:
> > >
> > > Robert Schuh wrote:
> > >
> > > > Art S wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm not sure, but I think it is sacrilegious to talk that
> > > >> way about someone who has accepted Jesus as his Messiah and
> > > >> is going to Heaven.
> > > >
> > > > Hey Art,
> > > > Why not take your bible and shove it up your ass??
> > >
> > > I believe you misread the intent of Art's post.
> > >
> > > --
> > > -Wayne
> >
> > Rob misread something? Surely you jest.
> > ps
>
> God, I just finished reading thru this thread.
> Most of y'all are SO fucked up!
> How can ANY of you take religion seriously?
> It is responsible for more horrific acts of cruelty
> and inhumanism than any other concepts. All of them,
> none accepted.
>
> Embrace Atheism. That just MIGHT bring about world peace! :-P
Soon as I find Atheism, gonna embrace her, then we're going to her place
"Chupacabra" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:39:50 GMT, "The Puppy Wizard"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >HOWEDY Sarah Jane,
> >
> >"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >
> >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in
> >the
> >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> >
> >HOWER dog lovers sez he'll think it's his den and won't relieve
> >hisself
> >there. That'll teach IT not to fHOWEL your HOWES. As a scientist,
> >HOWE
> >would you EXXXPLAIN David not thinkin likeWIZE? What's good for
> >the goose...
> >
> >Question come up here abHOWETS the other day, if he can have water
> >in the crate? Would not that likely be turned into WHINE?
> >
> >HOWE COME lockin a DOG in a box is GOOD and lockin a man in a
> >box is BAD, even given all the WHINE he can handle? You can just
> >IGNORE IT till he's QUIET and then take him HOWET for a walk an
> >cookie. Only takes a couple times to teach a dog he's got no food
> >water or a toilet an he don't know if you're comin back, just like
> >J.C.
> >
> >Better to BELIEVE his Master will return, as otherWIZE, he's DEAD.
> >
>
> <shit snipped>
>
> Is that English?
looks like they are letting 'em use computers in the loony bin
HOWEDY Phil,
"Phil Foreskin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "David Cohen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > "David" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Chupacabra" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:39:50 GMT, "The Puppy Wizard"
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >HOWEDY Sarah Jane,
> > > > >
> > > > >"Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > >news:[email protected]...
> > > > >
> > > > >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock
you in
> > the
> > > > >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> > > > >
> > > > >HOWER dog lovers sez he'll think it's his den and won't
relieve
> > > > >hisself
> > > > >there. That'll teach IT not to fHOWEL your HOWES. As a
scientist,
> > > > >HOWE
> > > > >would you EXXXPLAIN David not thinkin likeWIZE? What's
good for
> > > > >the goose...
> > > > >
> > > > >Question come up here abHOWETS the other day, if he can
have
> > water
> > > > >in the crate? Would not that likely be turned into WHINE?
> > > > >
> > > > >HOWE COME lockin a DOG in a box is GOOD and lockin a man
in a
> > > > >box is BAD, even given all the WHINE he can handle? You
can just
> > > > >IGNORE IT till he's QUIET and then take him HOWET for a
walk an
> > > > >cookie. Only takes a couple times to teach a dog he's got
no food
> > > > >water or a toilet an he don't know if you're comin back,
just
> > like
> > > > >J.C.
> > > > >
> > > > >Better to BELIEVE his Master will return, as otherWIZE,
he's
> > DEAD.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > <shit snipped>
> > > >
> > > > Is that English?
> > >
> > > looks like they are letting 'em use computers in the loony
bin
> >
> > Jerry Howe is a well-known...infamous, actually...troll on the
dog
> > ng's.
> >
> > He is confined to a state mental institution, but gets
internet
> > privilages. I suspect he's cheeking his anti-psychotic meds.
> >
> > David
> > >
> > >
>
> David, are you Jewish?
Here's a few MOORE pagans Xians and Jews we can
spare some extra nails for:
> > > Jerome Bigge writes:
> > > I do know that hitting, hurting
> > > your dog will often make the
> > > dog either aggressive or a fear
> > > biter, neither of which we want to do.
And then we got, matty! Follow his discussion!
This is what's called, a liar and dog abuser:
> > And neither does anyone else,
> > Jerome. No matter
> > what Jerry Howe states.
"Just Want To Second Jerry's Method For
Dealing With This I've Suggested It To Quite
A Few Clients Now And It's Worked 'EVERY
TIME The Very First Time' - marilyn, Trainer,
33 Years Experience.
You DO remember KILLFILING MARILYN for her coment above
regarding her success with The Puppy Wizard's Surrogate Toy
Separation Anxiety / Bed Time Calming Technique (STSA/BTCT)?
Perhaps you likeWIZE recall a pediatrician, Dr. Z, who commented
that his bed time calming technique was quite similar?
> > You're scary Marilyn.
> > Marilyn must be quite a disturbed
> > individual. I feel very sorry for her
> > and her family.
"His Amazing Progress Almost Makes Me Cry.
Your Method Takes Positive Training To The
Next Level And Should Really Be Used By All
Trainers Who Call Themselves Trainers. Thank
You For Helping Me Save His Life," Kay Pierce,
Professional Trainer, 30 Years Experience.
> > BUT, giving you the benefit of the
> > doubt, please provide a quote (an
> > original quote, not from one of Jerry
> > Howe's heavily edited diatribes) that
> > shows a regular poster promoting or
> > using an abusive form of training.
BWWWWEAAAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
> > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
"Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch
Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They
Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse
Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep
The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"
mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.
You think HURTING a HUNTING DOG to
MAKE IT HUNT is NECESSARY???
"Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It
A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know
Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo
Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because
Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.
You think allowing a "FEAR AGGRESSIVE MAN
SHY" dog to be BEATEN by a strange male trainer
is INTELLIGENT BEHAVIOR for a DOG LOVER?
"Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem
Quite Harsh And Cause You To Cringe. This Is A
Normal Reaction The First Few Times It Happens,
But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:
"Courteous Canine."
You think HURTIN dogs and CRINGING
is COURTEOUS?
"I have heard advice stating that you should pre-load
your dog for Bitter Apple for it to work as efficiently
as possible. What does this mean?"
Means the author is a dog abuser of the worst magnitude.
"When you bring home the Bitter Apple for the first time, spray
one squirt directly into the dog's mouth and walk away. The dog
won't be too thrilled with this but just ignore him and continue
your
normal behavior."
You think HURTING your dog is NORMAL BEHAVIOR?
--Mike Dufort
author of the zero selling book
"Courteous Canines"
You think HOWER pal mikey is playin with a full deck?
Yeah. When I preload my dog's mouth with bitter apple,
suppose I don't get used to being stupid and cruel, mikey?
Then HOWE do I train my dog if I can't HURT it?
"I Dropped The Leash, Threw My Right Arm Over The Lab's
Shoulder, Grabbed Her Opposite Foot With My Left Hand,
Rolled Her On Her Side, Leaned On Her, Smartly Growled
Into Her Throat And Said "GRRRR!" And Neatly Nipped Her
Ear," sionnach.
Oh, THANKS, sinofabitch...
And from terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks" things is
something you twisted out of context,
because you are full of bizarro manure."
"Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a
helper wield the stick, or do it yourself.
Tougher, less tractable dogs may require
you to progress to striking them more
sharply," lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder,
expert trainer.
You think a EXXXPERT trainer got to BEAT
a HUNTIN dog to MAKE IT HUNT?
"Pudge Was So Soft That She Could And
Would Avoid A Simple Swat On The Rump
With A Riding Crop," lying frosty dahl,
discoverer of CANNIBALISM in Labradors.
Perhaps the mom dog didn't want her babies HURT all
their lives like HOWE HOWER dog lovers PREFER to
HURT THEIR DOGS?
"John ran out, grabbed Blackie by the collar, and
gave the dog two or three medium whacks on the
rump with a training stick while holding him partially
off the ground. John then told Blackie to sit, ran back
to the line and cast him back to the dummies."
The Puppy Wizard sez a mom dog eatin her babies
to SAVE THEM from a fate like that, is COMMENDABLE.
We're gonna teach folks THAT AIN'T NORMAL...
terri willis, Psychoclown wrote:
"Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"
things is something you twisted out of
context, because you are full of bizarro
manure."
Sez on our FAQ'S pages at K9 Web you should knee the dog in the
chest, step on its toes, throw him down by his ears and climb all
over
it like a raped ape growling into his throat and bite IT on his
ears, or
leash pop it on a pronged spiked pinch choke collar or pop him in
the
snout with the heel of your palm.
"BethF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Frank" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] (Leah) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > > >"brianev" [email protected] wrote:
> > > > I ENJOYED reading your book, and
> > > > AGREED with what you had to say.
> > > > I find it sick to hear what people
> > > > do with their dogs.
:
> > > Keep in mind that everything he says that
> > > the regular posters of this ng do to their
> > > dogs are lies.
:
> > > All of it. Every last bit.
:
> > All of it?
:
> > Ear pinching?
:
> > Shock collars?
:
> > Spiked chokers?
:
> > The regulars lie more in their denials than
> > Howe does in his accusing of them.
:
> Uh, Frank? Who do you see denying anything?
> Its quite interesting that a newbie like yourself
> would see denials when everyone has Jerry
> killfiled and therefore don't even read his posts,
> let alone respond to them.
"Rocky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> > When you compare using sound and
> > praise to solve a problem with using
> > shock collars, hanging, and punishment
> > how can you criticize the use of sound?
> There's nothing more to be said, then.
> You've made up your mind.
> But you've impressed me by mentioning
> that you're a professor with 30 years of
> experience.
> So, can you cite some examples of
> people recommending "shock collars,
> hanging, and punishment"?
BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
> --
> --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
You think matty's playin with a full
goddamned deck?
matty's NOT a liar and dog abuser.
Isn't that true, Marilyn?
Of course not, but THIS IS:
"Chin CHUCK absolutely doesn't mean slap,"
professora gingold.
"Marshall Dermer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >Di,
> I don't believe you mentioned a particular
> kind of training. If you are interested in
> training retrieval behavior than do
> consider our own Amy Dahl's:
> The 10-Minute Retriever : How to Make a
> Well-Mannered, Obedient and
> Enthusiastic Gun Dog in 10 Minutes a
> Day by John I. Dahl, Amy Dahl
You failed to mention your pals the dahls are
proven liars and dog abusers, professor "SCRUFF SHAKE:"
"I Would Never Advise Anyone To Slap A
Dog I Do Not Believe There Is A Single
Circumstance Ever, Where Slapping A
Dog Is Anything But Destructive,"
LUCKY thing CHIN CHUCK absolutely don't
mean slap the goddamned dog, we'd look like
a conspiracy of LIARS and DOG abusers if
CHIN CHUCK DID mean SLAP the dog.
"I don't see why anyone would want to choke or
beat a dog, or how any trainer could possibly get
a good working dog by making them unhapper,
fearful, cowering, etc." sez amy lying frosty dahl.
DOES THAT SOUND LIKE THE TRUTH?
> just $17.95 at Amazon.com.
> (Also, it is best to killfile posts from the
> few regulars here who are either ill-
> tempered, ill-mannered, or just plain ill.)
> --Marshall
Or HOWE about HOWER just plain CRUEL
STUPID and ABUSIVE DOG ABUSERS,
professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
amy lying frosty dahl continues:
"On the other extreme, the really hard dogs
we have trained require much more
frequent and heavy application of pressure
(PAIN j.h.) to get the job done,
This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome
Get A 30"- 40" Stick.You can have a helper
wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher,
less tractable dogs may require you to
progress to striking them more sharply"
BUT NOBODY DOES THAT HERE...
"Try pinching the ear between the metal
casing and the collar, even the buckle on
the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will
give in but will squeal, thrash around, and
direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch"
OR ATTACKING HIS ABUSER.
"You can press the dog's ear with a
shotshell instead of your thumb even
get a studded collar and pinch the ear
against that Make the dog's need to stop
the pinching so urgent that resisting your
will fades in importance.
CHUCK IT Under ITS Chin With That Ever
Ready Right Hand, As it catches on, try
using the stick and no ear pinch.
When the dog is digging out to beat the
stick and seems totally reliable without
any ear pinch, you are finished
This is continued resistance to your
increasing authority, and the job is
not done until it is overcome"
If the dog drops it, chuck it solidly
under the chin, say "No! Hold!"
(stay on the ear until it does) (perhaps
because the ear is getting tender, or the
dog has decided it isn't worth it)" lying
frosty dahl.
"Chin cuff absolutely does not mean slap,"
professora gingold.
From: Marshall Dermer ([email protected])
In article <[email protected]>
[email protected] writes:
>> -snip headers etc.
>> Yes. you're right, I really should find
>> the book.. they don't have these books
>> in the local pet stores I frequent, where
>> do you find Koehler?
> I got a nice large print copy from
> Amazon.com
>Richard
Please try Powell's Books in Portland
Oregon. Their URL is:
http://www.powells.com/
Unlike Amazon.com, Powell's keeps both
new and used books on its shelves. You
can order books via e-email.
Koehler Method Of Dog
Training
by Koehler, W R
Published by HOWELL BOOK
HOUSE (0876056575,
========================================================
Here's some quotes and some methods right
outta your koehler book professor "SCRUFF SHAKE and scream "NO!"
into its
face for 5
seconds:"
"The Koehler Method of Dog Training (1962). New York:
Howell Book Book House(p. 52-53)."
Hanging
"First, the trainer makes certain that the collar
and leash are more than adequate for any jerk
or strain that the dog's most frantic actions could cause. Then
he starts
to work the dog deliberately and fairly to the point where the dog
makes his
grab.
Before the teeth have reached their target,
the dog, weight permitting, is jerked from
the ground.
As in coping with some of the afore-mentioned problems the dog is
suspended
in mid-air.
However, to let the biting dog recover
his footing while he still had the strength
to renew the attack would be cruelty.
The only justifiable course is to hold him
suspended until he has neither the strength
nor inclination to renew the fight.
When finally it is obvious that he is
physically incapable of expressing his
resentment and is lowered to the ground,
he will probably stagger loop-legged for a
few steps, vomit once or twice, and roll
over on his side.
The sight of a dog lying, thick-tongued,
on his side, is not pleasant, but do not
let it alarm you
THE REAL "HOOD"
"If your dog is a real "hood" who would
regard the foregoing types of protest as
"kid stuff" and would express his
resentment of your efforts by biting,
your problem is difficult -- and pressing.
"Professional trainers often get these
extreme problems. Nearly always the
"protest biter" is the handiwork of a
person who, by avoiding situations that
the dog might resent, has nurtured the
seeds of rebellion and then cultivated
the resultant growth with under correction.
When these people reap their inevitable
and oftentimes painful harvest, they are
ready to avail themselves of "the cruel
trainer" whose advice they may have
once rejected because it was incompatible
with the sugary droolings of mealy-
mouthed columnists, breed-ring biddies,
and dog psychologists who, by the
broken skins and broken hearts their
misinformation causes, can be proven guilty
of the greatest act of cruelty to animals
since the dawn of time.
"With more genuine compassion for the
biting dog than would ever be demonstrated
by those who are "too kind" to make a
correction and certainly with more disregard
for his safety, the professional trainer
morally feels obligated to perform a "major
operation."
"Since we are presently concerned with
the dog that bites in resentment of the
demands of training, we will set our
example in that situation. (In a later
chapter we will deal with the with the
much easier problem of the dog that
bites someone other than his master."
Are we havin FUN yet?
Got a lite, professor SCRUFF SHAKE?
The Puppy Wizard. <} : ~ ) >
"Lyle McDonald" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Sperminator wrote:
> >
> > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > Holy Ghost.
>
> Wrong.
>
> Curly, Moe and Larry are the three parts
>
> Shemp was a false Messiah.
>
> So was Curly Joe.
>
> Lyle
> nyuk nyuk nyuk
Shit Lyle,
i hate the stooges.
Guess I am going to hell with the rest of the jews.
The Sperminator wrote:
> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> Holy Ghost.
>
> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> Just a kind bit of advice.
Jesus was a Jew, so...who's gonna save him? Nobody, I guess, which means he
won't be around to save you. Which means you're wasting your time preaching
*and* believing. Besides, paradise is relative, and I'm pretty sure your
god won't approve of mine. But, hey...whatever works for you. Just fucking
keep it to yourself, alright?
-Mikelle-
pantheist and proud
--
Pagans do it in circles.
-- remove SPAMJAM to reply --
"William Brink" <wbrink@*remove*earthlink.net> wrote:
> [email protected] (Gary Gnu) wrote:
> > [email protected] (The Sperminator) wrote:
> > > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > > Holy Ghost.
> > >
> > > All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > > Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> > >
> > > Just a kind bit of advice.
> >
> > Thanks for the advice.
> >
> > Hey, why don't we all buy some guns, join the NRA, string up some
> > minorities, and shoot some gays while we're at it. Better yet, lets
> > all become priests so we can touch some young boys!
> >
> > I hope you and Charleston Heston have a nice life together.
>
> What does Heston or the NRA have to do with any of this? Nothing.
I believe it has something to do with borderline mental retardation
amongst knee-jerk liberals.
In article <[email protected]>,
"John M. Williams" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "William Brink" <wbrink@*remove*earthlink.net> wrote:
> > [email protected] (Gary Gnu) wrote:
> > > [email protected] (The Sperminator) wrote:
> > > > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > > > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > > > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > > > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > > > Holy Ghost.
> > > >
> > > > All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > > > Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> > > >
> > > > Just a kind bit of advice.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the advice.
> > >
> > > Hey, why don't we all buy some guns, join the NRA, string up some
> > > minorities, and shoot some gays while we're at it. Better yet, lets
> > > all become priests so we can touch some young boys!
> > >
> > > I hope you and Charleston Heston have a nice life together.
> >
> > What does Heston or the NRA have to do with any of this? Nothing.
>
> I believe it has something to do with borderline mental retardation
> amongst knee-jerk liberals.
Damn if you aint right John!
>
>
--
Will Brink
http://www.brinkzone.com/
http://musclebuildingnutrition.com/
http://www.aboutsupplements.com/
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Gary Gnu) wrote:
> Thanks for the advice.
>
> Hey, why don't we all buy some guns, join the NRA, string up some
> minorities, and shoot some gays while we're at it. Better yet, lets
> all become priests so we can touch some young boys!
>
> I hope you and Charleston Heston have a nice life together.
What does Heston or the NRA have to do with any of this? Nothing.
>
> [email protected] (The Sperminator) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> > be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> > modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> > Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> > Holy Ghost.
> >
> > All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> > Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
> >
> > Just a kind bit of advice.
--
Will Brink
http://www.brinkzone.com/
http://musclebuildingnutrition.com/
http://www.aboutsupplements.com/
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (The Sperminator) wrote:
> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish people need to
> be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the Messiah that the
> modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is not King David. It is not
> Mohammed. God is in three parts: the Father, the Son (Christ), and the
> Holy Ghost.
>
> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as their
> Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in paradise.
>
> Just a kind bit of advice.
Fuck you and your advice.
--
Will Brink
http://www.brinkzone.com/
http://musclebuildingnutrition.com/
http://www.aboutsupplements.com/
"gps" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> David wrote:
> >
> > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > In <[email protected]> David wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[email protected]...
> > > >> In <[email protected]> David
wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Sarah Jane" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:[email protected]...
> > > >> >> In <[email protected]> David
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "The Sperminator" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:[email protected]...
> > > >> >> >> I am a Christian male. I personally believe that Jewish
people
> > > >> >> >> need to be saved before it is too late for them. Jesus is the
> > > >> >> >> Messiah that the modern day Jews are still awaiting. It is
not
> > > >> >> >> King David. It is not Mohammed. God is in three parts: the
> > > >> >> >> Father, the Son (Christ), and the Holy Ghost.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> All Jews, Muslims, and Pagans need to accept Jesus Christ as
> > > >> >> >> their Savior or they will not be granted eternal life in
> > > >> >> >> paradise.
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> Just a kind bit of advice.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > his ass ain't worth saving
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Don't you talk about my son that way. STFU or I'll lock you in
the
> > > >> >> closet, David. (you, not him)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > show us your tits
> > > >>
> > > >> Oh, I guess you didn't find the JPEGs. ;)
> > > >
> > > > yes SJ found 'em - why do you think I've not posted for the last 5
> > > > mins?
> > >
> > > But what were you doing for the other 4 minutes and 55 seconds?
> >
> > jesus! no wonder Bessie seems pissed off all the time (that's my sheep)
>
> Isn't it the lady whose fiddle you tune? :)
> ps
sorry ps - I'm terrible with names - Bessie is actually the sheep - the
other lady is my wife - and I better stop calling her Bessie at the critical
moment
HOWEDY david,
"David Cohen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Jerry Howe is a well-known...infamous, actually...troll on the
dog
> ng's.
The Puppy Wizard has CURED ALL BEHAVIOR problems
NEARLY INSTANTLY, and FOR FREE, from settin right
here, stark ravin nekkid. GAWD I hate these paper slippers.
> He is confined to a state mental institution, but gets internet
> privilages.
Thanks to wireless connections, keyboard and mHOWES.
> I suspect he's cheeking his anti-psychotic meds.
Sometimes you can get a really good buzz if you save
up enough an swaller them all at WON time. Try it!
> David
"Almira Happy1" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
.
> i can understand how you all feel about his posts...if i
> remember correctly...after i told him my name and that i
> post here..i said...your not going to be mean to me are
> you....he just laughed..he is so unlike some of his
> post....he told me he was available 24/7 if i ever needed
> his help..
> i mentioned about the things he says in his posts...he
> said he was tired of people calling him names and
> accusing him of lying about his referrals and his
> methods..and thats why he does it...he never once
> mentioned anything about the black box or trying to
> sell me anything..
>
>his manual is free for anyone to copy....
>
> iknow it must be hard for you to believe what i've said
> about him...but everything i said is true...
>
> all i can suggest is give his methods a try...what can it
> hurt...and if you don't believe me or think he's pulling a
> slick one....call him...i asked him if he had a few minutes
> to talk with me...he said he had all the time i needed...
>
> he's nothing at all like he appears to be sometimes in
> here..maybe your dog doesn't need help...but mine does
> have some issues that i think need addressing...and i
> honestly feel like i've gone to the right person for help....
>
>i'm sorry if i offended anyone in here with my post about
> him...i like all of you and you gave me the inspiration to
> keep this dog...and i just want to make sure he will be
> the best he can be...and i feel Jerry can help me with
> this....
>
> thanks for hearing me out and i hope
> you will still welcome me in this group...Almira
=====================
----- Original Message -----
From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
To: Andrew
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: DOGGIE DO RIGHT, wanna join the party?
Andrew, Jerry Howe is here as I type and we have decided to
create a human mellowing branch and to sell the marvel mystery
device. Here is my first draft. What do you think?
George
Friends and colleagues:
A couple of years ago I became interested in Doggy Do Right
(DDR) a sonic device which inhibits barking in your neighbors'
yappy dogs. I tested the instrument and became pleased at the
silence in our neighborhood.
I perused the manual for the DDR which has significant
guidance for loving your own dog so that the wee beast no
longer leaps up on you, howls, whines, tears up your shoes,
escapes, digs holes, spins around, throws up in the car, eats
paper, self-mutilates, fears thunder, suffers when you go to
the store and don't take him, and all the other ills and
behavior problems to which the domesticated dog is prone.
Jerry Howe, the inventor of the DDR, understands doggy
behavior so well he might well have been a student of Sam
Corson (Pavlov's last student who fixed hyperactive dogs, and
started our profession, as well as the profession of "Pet
Facilitated Therapy").
It occured to me that we might put ourselves out of work. If
a sonic device can mellow hyperactive dogs, why wouldn't it do
so for hyperactive kids and neurotic adults?
So, I am inviting a few friends and colleagues to join me in
forming a company, which will lease BABY BE GOOD; HAPPY
BOY; SWEET LITTLE GIRL; MAMA BE MELLOW; PAPA BE
STRONG - these are just first pass names for the device in its
several adjustments. Jerry Howe, genius inventor says you
have to refine the adjustment for .
More than a thousand owners agree that DOGGY DO RIGHT
happifies the dogs next door so they don't bark. DOGGY DO
RIGHT also happifies the dog in your home so that she doesn't
do all the unwanted, unpleasant things that dogs often do.
AND!!! DOGGY DO RIGHT happifies the humans in your
house so that they are more mellow, happy, quiet and not
so dratted obsessive and angry.
Problem here. Is this therapy? If so the poor little silently
singing device needs $4,000,000 to do an FDA study.
THANK GOD! IT ISN'T THERAPY!
It is the same effect that Baroque music has on emotion, learning,
behavior and memory. Baroque music mellows and enhances and
so does DOGGY DO RIGHT.
Of course, these wonderful results have to be proved, by
acceptable means.
=======================
Jerry, don't think I sent this to you. A remarkable success
for DDR - I keep wanting to call it, Doggie Be Good, DBG.
Maybe we ought to try it as an alternate name! Set up your
own competition.
Fondly, George
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy
To: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
Cc:
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Doggie Do Right;
I have to agree with George. I found out about this and asked
George to look into it. Got good results, so I bought one. I
have 6 LOUD dogs outside my back window, chained up all the
time, less than 50 feet behind the house. They used to keep me
up nights until I bought the DDR machine. Now, quiet.
Yes, they bark when someone gets too close at odd hours, but
then they stop. Used to be they would bark for hours. (Their
owner must wonder what happened, I called the cops a couple of
times, but didn't want to drag him into court.)
Andy
At 05:06 PM 5/5/2003 -0400, George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
wrote:
Doggie Do Right; Kitty Will; A Rooster did and a Cockatoo or
two did too.
The inventor is visiting with me. I am severely impressed.
So, I wanna know, do you wish to explore with me the marketing
of this device.
Greg tried the machine out; Andy has one; I can't recall if I
told John about it or not. You'd love the guy, he looks like
Johnie Appleseed before his hair went white, long black
beard, but no bs.
Not defensive at all when I asked the hard questions; a bit of
an idealist when it came to making money, but he's sold a
thousand of the damned things, and has some very solid
references.
I ran his EEG when the instrument was broadcasting and
damn it changed the brainwaves. Hot rats.
I think we could do good, and do well, too.
The point of it is that my evidence is that it will calm down
kids, stop seizures, and mellow out their parents. We have to
prove this, but he already has a psychiatrist with excellent
comments; and me; and sampling his sales will build a lovely
package. 1000 sold already.
I made another trial with new dogs just up the street and the
damned things shut up. The dogs next door have remained
silent since I first tried it a year ago.
What ya think? George
=============================
A non dog owner, Dr. Von, a child psychogist and
biofeedback training specialist, tested my machine
at the request of one of his friends who wanted his
opinion as to the efficacy of my machine. He loves
the concept, as it mirrors his approach to educating
difficult children:
----- Original Message -----
From: George von Hilsheimer, Ph.D.
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 3:21 PM
Subject: [GVS]doggydoright
I just had a nice talk with the man who invented
the "doggydoright" device.
If you know someone working at a shelter etc
who wants to quieten the dogs in the neighborhood
then this is an ideal present for them - and he will
sell it at a discount. He sounds like someone we
all know who has no sense at all about money.
Nice, nice man.
"doggydoright" may be obtained from
[email protected]
I now have four locations at which the thing has worked,
so I recommend it.
Yap yap yap no more! I have zero financial interest in this.
George
============
The Puppy Wizard's
Doggy Do Right (And Kitty Will And A Rooster Did
And A Cockatoo Or Two Did Too)
- The Little Black Box That Cures Animal's Annoying Habits -
Here are a few publicly posted, verifiable, unsolicited
testimonials:
From: Chris Williams ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Thank you Jerry Howe
Date: 2002-03-26 08:16:19 PST
Engrossing account, Anthony. Our best to Angel
and your family.
A friend, who socializes the kittens I've taken
from a feral cat colony, is using the DDR.
She reports far fewer panic problems than
she's had before.
============================
Chris Williams writes:
"The FREE Wits' End Dog Training Method manual
I do find valuable. Much of it I recognize as what
I've always done without thinking of it as "training".
New stuff, I've used. His anchoring technique erased
the last of Mac's fireworks trauma,"
====================
Jerry says:
HOWE'S the baby's seizures?
parentadlitem says:
better
Jerry says:
got any idea how much better?
parentadlitem says:
not really
parentadlitem says:
she doesn't do em here that i see
Jerry says:
amazing
Jerry says:
when's the last time she seized with you?
parentadlitem says:
weeks ago?
Jerry says:
but before the machine it was daily?
parentadlitem says:
every minute!
Jerry says:
does her mom use it at her HOWES?
parentadlitem says:
yup
parentadlitem says:
i yelled at her about it
Jerry says:
ask her when's the last time she saw a seizure for me
parentadlitem says:
k . she's sleepin now, ill talk to her tonight, she's comin
over
Jerry says:
yeah... that's pretty good stuff
parentadlitem says:
yup
parentadlitem says:
i love mine
parentadlitem says:
no barkin the neighborhood at all anymore
parentadlitem says:
ever
Jerry says:
right
parentadlitem says:
once in a blue moon some distant dog will bark
parentadlitem says:
but all the neighbors dogs are quiet
Jerry says:
when you hear that distant dog throw the machine on
parentadlitem says:
we do
parentadlitem says:
it's really rare though
=================
> Nevyn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi There Jerry
>
> Its Nevyn. Sorry Ive not been posting, but I've been
> working weekend work at the tracks with the greyhounds
> (thanks to you!).
>
> Well my dogs are the envy of all on my street. I can
> have them out in the yard with me, take them walking
> without a leash, they will do any command with no
> hesitation. And they don't bark anymore! Thanks to
> your machine!
>
> Oh yeah, I loaned your machine to several friends
> and family -- Here are some reports:
>
> "I would say my dogs are well trained, but they suffer
> severe anxiety when no body is home. This machine
> quietened them almost instantly - still they barked,
> in the beginning, but just one or two barks. Then
> slowly they just stopped... beginning to bark, then
> instantly stopping.
>
> It took only 2 weeks, and we did nothing.
>
> Truly amazing;
>
> I have recommomeded it to my family, and perhaps
> they will buy one. Its a shame you don't sell them publicly".
> -- Kylie, 30, on dogs Lili (11 yr mutt bitch) and Sheeba (4 yr
> Rotty X)
>
>
> "My two dogs barked insanely when someone would
> go past. With this little machine they quietened right
> down, and even became partly obedient, and we did
> nothing!
>
>
> Great stuff.
>
> We ran it only on the lowest setting, too!"
> - Ed, 65, on his two male Dobermans, 5 yrs old.
>
> Well I have some more, and am collecting more,
> but I only have one machine so its a slow process.
> Once again I say thankyou Jerry! My family was
> on the verge of giving them up! :(
>
> But no longer :)
>
> =====================
>
> From: aimee ([email protected])
> Subject: doggie do right
> Date: 2002-08-01 06:57:15 PST
>
> doggie do right rocks!!
>
> We were sent one of these fantastic machines 5 months
> ago to see if it would help with our rambunctious mutts.
> The doggy do right has done more than just work...it
> has worked miracles!
>
> Our pair of noisier than freight-train doggies were barking
> so loud at our neighbours and passers by that we were just
> about ready to find them new homes. But within just two
> months of using the Doggy Do Right they were nice and
> quiet and stopped barking at the neighbours.
>
> They did relapse a little when their owner went away,
> but we started the program again and within days
> they were both quiet and obedient once more.
>
> Our doggies have now not barked unnecessarily
> for over 2 months.
>
> Thanks Jerry! You have made my dreams come true!
>
> Aimee.
Subj: Fear of Thunder
Date: 6/29/02 6:07:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Jraltman
To: Witsenddog
Dear Jerry,
I hope you'll be able to post this message so more people who
are at their wit's end will be able to help their dogs.
To review:
Our puppy was uncomfortable during thunder storms.
At the beginning of the problem, she paced restlessly
from room to room. She couldn't settle and sleep.
From there the problem grew. She would run to the
far southeast corner of the house (which makes
sense because most storms here come from the
northwest) and she'd cower in the corner of the
couch and shake.
1st attempt to help her:
I'd pick her up, brush and massage her (call me a nut -
I've sung to her when I've done her daily brushing since
she was tiny so of course I sang too) and when she
relaxed, I'd put her in her crate. She then slept and I
thought the problem was solved.
Traumatic event:
We were out in the park playing with one of her doggy
friends when it began to rain. On the way home, there
was the loudest, longest, thunder clap I've ever heard.
From that day on, the problem got worse and worse.
I couldn't calm her with singing and massage. The
fear spread. She wouldn't go out if it was raining.
No thunder, just gently summer rain, and she
wouldn't go out.
The solution:
I surfed the net and came across a free manual Wit's
End Dog Training Method and a product called Doggy
Do Right that seemed better than anything else I came
across.
A phone call to Jerry Howe, author of the manual and
Director of Research, Biosound Scientific, convince
me to try both the manual and the product.
Problem solved:
I followed Jerry's suggestions (more phone calls - he
is most generous with his time and advice).
The first two thunder storms my puppy was restless but
not running around in a blind panic. The third storm, she
barked her deep, stranger danger bark after each clap of
thunder. The fourth storm, she seemed uneasy at first.
Soon she was asleep at my feet and she napped through
the rest of the storm. A miracle. I am endlessly grateful to
Jerry for his manual and his machine.
A word about Doggy Do Right. It is odd to buy a machine
that emits a sound I cannot hear. I took the chance because
Jerry offered a full refund including shipping.
Though I heard nothing, my puppy clearly did. When I first
turned on the machine, she got the cutest, most quizzical
look on her face. She looked at me as if to say: "What's
that? I never heard that before." She looks at the machine
when it is on.
She rests on the floor beneath it.
It is obvious from her behavior that she is aware of its
cycles.
Amazing.
Thank you Jerry.
=============
"misty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
ebtv .net...
> Jerry sent me the DDR when I mentioned my cockatoo
> was stressed out by my then just learning to walk
> baby.
> Buddy was screaming day and night..lunging at Joey
> whenever he crawled up to Buddy's cage and nipping
> the baby ( if Buddy wanted to his beak is powerful
> enough to sever an adult's finger in one snap!) At
> first we noticed nothing... after a few days
> ..nothing..nothing except quiet :-)
> That's not to say Buddy never screams.. heh.. he'a a
> 'Too.. but the late night scream-a-thons ended.
> He also tolerates Joey playing in his water dish
> <sigh> just what I want...2 splashers! Buddy loves
> to bathe in his water until there's more water on
> the floor and walls than in his dish :-)
> Twice now Buddy has had marathon scream-a-thons...
> for a few days each time. It takes that long for me
> to realize the DDR is unplugged :-O
> Once cos DH did some maintenance and forgot to plug
> it back in ( of course he remembered to plug the
> washing machine back in ;-P)
> The second time I had unplugged it while
> sweeping...and forgot to plug it back in...
> We sure enjoy him being such a good bird! He's been
> so loving to everyone... my older 2 boys love being
> able to give him scritches again.
> ~misty
> (No, Jerry, you can't have the DDR back just yet! :-)
===================
Elaine McClung, President of Pet Rescue, Animal Commissioner
Brevard Co FL, writes: Sep 9, 2000
"I ordered from Jerry a long time ago.. He was helpful
and the order was filled promptly. Yes, Doggie Do Right
does indeed exist.
I "had" a very aggressive female Pit.. She was showing
aggression not only towards Dok, Rhodesian Ridgeback,
but our cats and even us.
She now plays with Dok, even to the point of allowing him
to take a toy or bone from her. She no longer shows any
aggression towards us. She is showing some aggression
towards the cats but that is down to a warning growl.
It is not just my opinion that all this aggression
existed before Doggie Do Right as we were advised by
three vets to euthanize her.
I do very much believe that DDR will help JR as I know it
has helped my dogs and cats. I do think your product is a
valuable tool in helping with aggression and other
behavior problems.
I am in Feral CatNetwork (we spay and neuter
approximately 100 feral cats a month), I am also a member
of a local AKC dog obedience club, member of a local AKC
agility club, president of Pet Rescue, board member of
the Alliance for Care and Welfare of Animals (on the
board are: county commissioner, vet. rep., rep. from AKC
dog club, CFA cat club, assistant County manager, head of
animal control, director of two different shelters, etc.)
and Space Coast Feline Network
http://www.spacecoastfelinenetwork.com
Thanks, Elaine,
===================
Hi Jerry,
I wrote to you a week or so ago about the unit. I have
since borrowed one from Elaine Mc Clung. She speaks very
highly of it.
So, I brought it home and plugged it in. Of course, I
wanted it to come on, all the barking stop, and have
every one immediately fall to the floor in little comas
for a few hours. Well, after I got all 27 of them to be
quiet, still no comas. But, it had only been 36 seconds
at that point. So, I gave it a little longer. Still no
comas. Was this really going to work? I mean, I do have
an unusual situation.
So, by bedtime, a few hours later. I started to notice
just how many were asleep already - with their feet in
the air! I started to have hope. During the night, all
was calm. In the morning when I got up, only a few of
them WALKED quietly to the door to go out. Not the usual
evacuation.
I had the unit from Sunday afternoon until Tuesday
Morning. I was certainly pleased with the night effect. I
wasn't so sure about the amount of the day time effect.
Until I took it back. Within half an hour, the monsters
had resurfaced. I wondered if I could break into Elaine's
house and if she would notice :)
I know another person who does dog rescue. She rescues
Beagles. She has 23 in an 1100 square foot house. God
bless her. She is interested to see if it will work for
her. I also spoke to someone else who does cat rescue,
and she is interested. The cat rescue people have monthly
meetings. Maybe Elaine could give a word or two about it.
So, if there are any words of advice you can send my way
about the best way to use it in my case, I would
appreciate it. I of course wanted to keep it on the
highest setting, but don't know if that is advised, even
with my situation of so many new ones coming and (too
few) going.
Also, how I and others can go about getting one, etc. I
think the vets should have the info in their offices. It
must help dogs with separation anxiety. My vet practices
homeopathic as well as traditional medicine, so I
would think it would be right up her alley.
Thank you.
Desiree M Webber
A New Leash On Life
================
From: "Regina Guerrero" <>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:42 AM
Subject: Thank You!
> I just wanted to take a bit of time
> to tell you how much I appreciate your product and
> your training methods as well.
> When my little Chihuahua first arrived
> I was overwhelmed with her anxiety and
> her ability to just Bark endlessly.
> I received your product and at first I thought
> I was using it wrong, because my puppy just seemed to
> ignore it.
> But after a week or two, she began to calm down
> considerably as well as act more friendly towards
> people on the street.
> I can't believe the difference I see in my little
> puppy. Your product is a life saver!
> Thanks again for everything.
> Sincerely,
> Regina Guerrero
==================
"misty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jerry has taken the time to help me out off the NG. I have
> a very loud cockatoo who has been having problems adjusting
> to my 8 month old son.
>
> Joey is learning to walk. He likes to use Buddy's cage as a
> hold on for dear life object.
>
> Buddy wasn't exposed to toddlers prior to Joey.. my older
> two boys went through this stage in a different house where
> Buddy had his own room and the boys had only visits, not
> daily contact 24/7.
>
> Buddy has always been spooked by "tiny" humans. Joey has
> been driving him nuts! He showed his disapproval by
> non-stop screaming. A cockatoo scream can be heard a block
> away with all the widows shut <g> being in the house it
> makes your ears pop and your nerves crawl.
>
> Jerry sent me Free his DDR. He sent instructions on how to
> use it. He answered my questions quite politely.
>
> I have been using the DDR in my kitchen ( where Buddy is
> located~ teensy 4 room house) for 3 weeks.
>
> At first I noticed no difference in Buddy's behavior. Then
> I realized after a week that he no longer screamed for
> hours on end. This isn't to say he stopped completely <bg>
> he still demands his share of all meals. But he doesn't
> start screaming at 10 pm when he wants _everyone_ to go to
> bed. Last week he had a day where he screamed all day. My
> nerves were frazzled. I went to turn the DDR up a notch per
> Jerry's instructions. I discovered the DDR was shut off! I
> turned it back on and left it on the lowest setting. Buddy
> calmed back down and quit screaming.
>
> In the time that I've had the DDR on I've had a lot of c*ts
> come to my house. One I adopted and he's quite the sweetie.
> He's a yellow tiger named Gatomon ( means c*t monster) who
> is very friendly with my kids and Zelda.
>
> I may not like how Jerry treats other posters but I do like
> the methods he shares. Being on a limited budget I like
> things that are free. I also like the fact that I can
> e-mail him and get advice whenever I need it.
>
> Even my DH who is a technical minded kind of guy thinks the
> DDR is working. ( He went to Devry and has a degree in
> electronics, knows alot about radios and anything
> mechanical... he's a jack of all trades around the house
> <g>). He does NDT for a living.
>
> We don't expect to need the DDR forever.. As soon as Joey
> is walking, Buddy will realize that he's not a strange
> animal.. some kind of furless dog or c*t <bg>.
==============================
"Linda" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Rosa Palmén" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> Rosa, I got the doggy do right machine from Jerry
> in Jan and my dog relaxed in the first week. He
> does not have SA but he scratched himself raw
> until I got the machine. He also was a frantic
> chewer on his sticks until I got the machine.
>
> In less than a month he really relaxed. Now when
> the machine in on he just lays down and goes to sleep.
>
> If there is something outside that upsets him like a
> cat in the yard I just turn it on and he can cope.
>
> You will see all sorts of comments about the machine
> being as loud as a freight train etc but it is small and
> can not be heard by humans. I know he can hear it
> and that it relaxes him because I can see him relax
> when he hears it.
>
> I used the machine outside on the patio to quiet to
> dogs behind us that barked a hundred times a day.
> In two weeks they reduced the barking by 80%--
> When they barked after the machine was on Sunshine
> ran to the patio as they were alarm barking not just
> barking to pass the time.
>
> I asked the owners if they had noticed the dogs barking
> less and they said yes they had guessed the dogs were
> just growing up.
>
> Sunshine loved daycare but he was kicked out when he
> got aggressive but now than he has been trained with
> Jerry's Wits End Method and the machine I think I will
> let him go back to daycare.
>
> I am disabled so I can not run and play with him and
> I know he needs to play with other dogs.
>
> Go to www.doggydoright.com and read about the
> machine and get a free copy of Wits End Training
> Manual--since the info is free you won't lose anything
> and you can really help your dog.
>
> Linda and Sunshine
-------------------------------
"Anthony Testa" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year
> ago with my lovely wife linda. 3 times a week
> for 7 months I visited the Dog shelter and
> Humane Society looking for a German Shepherd.
> There were several times they had a dog there,
> but I was looking for a bitch. The reason for this
> is, all my life I have always had a female German
> shepherd. Therefore, I wanted another one. Finally
> about 6 weeks ago, I found her. "Angel" looked
> just like my previous dog of 12 years. I called my
> wife, she came down and fell in love with her immediately.
> We filled out the paper work and left the Humane
> Society with her.
>
> We drove directly to Pet Smart to buy all the essentials.
> We bought the biggest crate available. Let it be known I
> have never used a crate with any of my previous dogs.
> The biggest difference is my other dogs I had from puppy
> age. Angel just turned 2, 3 days before adoption.
>
> Angel appeared to be happy the trip home. Her ears
> were down all the time and her tail was so far between
> her legs that it looked like she had 3 ears. (humor)
> None the less, we knew we had a dog that was insecure.
> The first night we let Angel sleep in the living room.
>
> However, we had to go to work the next day. We pet
> her, kissed her and put her in the crate in the middle
> of the living room. During the day, my sons came
> home to walk her, give her a little loving and play with
> her. Then put her back in the crate and go to work.
> When we got home the first day, everything in the
> crate was ripped to shreds.
>
> The neighbors approached us and said that the dogs
> barked constantly for 3 hours then barked continuously
> after my sons left again. We thought it was because
> everything was new. We were wrong. The dig did
> this every day for 4 days.
>
> The 4th day was our first scheduled visit with the
> vet. The vet told us he can see that the dog is
> suffering from abuse and separation anxiety. So,
> the vet puts the dog on clomicalm. (not sure of the
> spelling).
>
> Well, for two days the dog walked around like Jerry
> Garcia on a Friday night after a concert, stoned!
> However, we were home with her the entire weekend.
>
> We crated her for work and came home to a barking
> dog, ripped bedding in the crate, upset neighbors
> and the plastic bottom of the crate completely torn
> to bits. It was obvious that crating was not a good thing.
>
> The next day we decided to leave her out of the crate
> to see what would happen. What a major mistake.
> We came home to almost $1,000 in damage.
> Furniture, the blinds were all chewed and torn down, etc.
>
> The next day we put her in the crate again. This
> time we came home to a nice 2' x 3' hole in our
> carpet in the middle of the living room, right down
> to the cement. I told my wife that we cannot afford
> to keep this dog. We should go out and get a puppy.
>
> She was upset and said there must be something
> we can do. I told her this. " I will go on the internet
> and see what is available". I was desperate and
> wanted to see if there was someone who could help.
>
> We read the information about the DDR and emailed
> Jerry. Jerry was kind enough to give us his phone
> number to discuss Angel in more detail.
>
> First, at no cost he sent us his manual. We started
> doing exactly what he said to do in the manual.
> Exactly as we did was was written, the results were
> exactly as he said it would be. Then we purchased
> the DDR.
>
> This is an amazing god send to us. First of all,
> Jerry sent it to us without paying. (thanks for that
> gesture) This has such and AMAZING effect. This testimonial
> is kind of winded so I will say this......Jerry's product
> literally saved this dogs life.
>
> Angel can be left alone during the day. NO CRATE. The
> dog shows absolutely no sign of anxiety at all. Jerry told
> us the product works immediately and it did! She does
> not bark at all during the day except when the mailman
> drops mail into the slot on the door. The manual for
> training works exactly as it says!
>
> We told our vet about this and he said that there are
> all kind of gimmicks. I told my vet that as a person who
> holds a degree of higher education, there just are some
> things they don't have in the text books and he should
> be receptive to that. We are proof. Angel was one
> day from going back to the humane society.
>
> Listen to this...My wife wrote one of the so called know
> it all of pets. His response to the exact letter we
> initially wrote to Jerry..."Get rid of the dog, bring her
> back" I'll save this person embarrassment by not saying the
> name. However, you know who you are and I have this to say
> to you. Go pump gas or bus tables because you
> sir, do not belong working with animals!
>
> Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news
> group, I can't for the life of me understand why this
> many people are so dang blind or ignorant.
>
> You just keep plugging away at what you do, because
> you my friend are a life saver!!!
>
> Anytime you need someone to speak about the results
> of your product, you have my number. We would gladly
> talk to them.
>
> Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...
> Anthony & Linda Testa
>
> Jacksonville, Florida
=====================
A non dog owner writes:
Dear Jerry-
I just wanted to let you know how wonderful your Doggy Do
Right product is. I was skeptical at first, but have been
tremendously pleased.
As you know, we had a neighbor's dog that was extremely
bothersome, at times barking loudly for 3 hours straight.
Within a few days, the barking decreased, and now it is
just the occasional bark. this dog lives approximately
500 feet away, and even at that distance, the machine has
done wonders.
You were always available and patient to answer my
questions, and now I can be in my own home without going
nuts from the barking. As an added pleasure, all the
other minor barking nuisances in the neighborhood have
stopped as well.
Quiet is wonderful! Thank you.
Pam Graves
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Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated
more complaints to my personal email than any other
controversial post I have made to date, bar none?:
CAVEAT
If you have to do things to your dog to train him that you
would rather not have to do, then you shouldn't be doing
them. If you have a dog trainer who tells you to jerk your
dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes,
shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, chin cuff, scruff shake or
punish your dog in any manner, that corrections
are appropriate, that the dog won't think of you as the
punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they
can't train your dog to do what you want, look for a
trainer that knows HOWE.
Thank you,
Jerry Howe,
Director of Research,
BIOSOUND Scientific
Director of Training,
Wits' End Dog Training
1611 24th St
Orlando, FL 32805
Phone: 1-407-425-5092
Phone: 1-888-BIOSOUND (1-888-246-7686)
Phone: 1-888-WITSEND (1-888-948-7363)
http://www.doggydoright.com
Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed.
-Francis Bacon-
There are terrible people who, instead of solving a
problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who
come after. Who ever can't hit the nail on the head
should, please, not hit at all.
-Nietzsche-
The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are
learned qualities.
The Wits' End Dog Training Method challenges the learning
centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged,
develop and continue to grow to make him smarter.
The Wits' End Dog Training method capitalizes on
praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and
timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant
corrections, and scolding.
-Jerry Howe-
The Puppy Wizard. <}TPW ; ~ ) >
ANY QUESTIONS, DUMMIES?
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(_o_) Have a great day!
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