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"fgphotog"

05/10/2003 5:56 PM

3/4 ply countertop onto particleboard cabinets ?

I have assembled pre-fab kitchen cabinet bases from Home Depot which are
unfortunately 3/4 inch veneered particle board. I need to fix onto the top 1
or preferably 2 (double) sheets of 3/4 exterior ply which will be the base
for a custom tile countertop.

My question is how best to fix that single or bottom sheet of ply to the
base cabinets, considering that they're 3/4 particle board not solid ?

One possibility is to run a bead of glue all along the top edge and then
either use 11/4 particle board or drywall screws to screw it down, or use
finishing nails instead, or perhaps rather use small L brackets screwed
into the wall and then the the top ?

Advice welcome
thanks
Frank








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BA

Bay Area Dave

in reply to "fgphotog" on 05/10/2003 5:56 PM

05/10/2003 3:07 AM

skip the nails. with the proper screws and some titebond it isn't going
anywhere. I'd skip the glue, personally, but it's YOUR cabinet.

dave

fgphotog wrote:

> I have assembled pre-fab kitchen cabinet bases from Home Depot which are
> unfortunately 3/4 inch veneered particle board. I need to fix onto the top 1
> or preferably 2 (double) sheets of 3/4 exterior ply which will be the base
> for a custom tile countertop.
>
> My question is how best to fix that single or bottom sheet of ply to the
> base cabinets, considering that they're 3/4 particle board not solid ?
>
> One possibility is to run a bead of glue all along the top edge and then
> either use 11/4 particle board or drywall screws to screw it down, or use
> finishing nails instead, or perhaps rather use small L brackets screwed
> into the wall and then the the top ?
>
> Advice welcome
> thanks
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

gG

[email protected] (Gfretwell)

in reply to "fgphotog" on 05/10/2003 5:56 PM

04/10/2003 10:22 PM

You can run a 1x2 cleat around the inside of the MDF glued and screwed in place
with 1.25" drywall screws from the back side. If you scuff up the white finish
a little for the glue to get a bite I am not sure how you could break it loose.
Then you will have something solid to screw your top down to.

GM

"George M. Kazaka"

in reply to "fgphotog" on 05/10/2003 5:56 PM

04/10/2003 3:41 PM

Frank 2 layers of Ply not necc unless your tile has the cornered edge and
you need to build up thickness, 1-1/4" screws are not long enough, you need
at least 1-5/8" and if you want to overkill it use 2".

After the plywood you then need to put down the cement board before tiling
this material is about 1/2" thick
Most Jobs I have done that use the cornered edge needs 2 layers of 5/8"
Plywood and then the cementboard
If the edge is going to be cut tile then you can make the top as thick as
you want to.

Make sure you use the good sealer for the grout when you are complete it is
sure worth it.

Good Luck,
George

"fgphotog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have assembled pre-fab kitchen cabinet bases from Home Depot which are
> unfortunately 3/4 inch veneered particle board. I need to fix onto the top
1
> or preferably 2 (double) sheets of 3/4 exterior ply which will be the base
> for a custom tile countertop.
>
> My question is how best to fix that single or bottom sheet of ply to the
> base cabinets, considering that they're 3/4 particle board not solid ?
>
> One possibility is to run a bead of glue all along the top edge and then
> either use 11/4 particle board or drywall screws to screw it down, or use
> finishing nails instead, or perhaps rather use small L brackets screwed
> into the wall and then the the top ?
>
> Advice welcome
> thanks
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

JM

"John McGaw"

in reply to "fgphotog" on 05/10/2003 5:56 PM

05/10/2003 8:44 AM

"fgphotog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have assembled pre-fab kitchen cabinet bases from Home Depot which are
> unfortunately 3/4 inch veneered particle board. I need to fix onto the top
1
> or preferably 2 (double) sheets of 3/4 exterior ply which will be the base
> for a custom tile countertop.
>
> My question is how best to fix that single or bottom sheet of ply to the
> base cabinets, considering that they're 3/4 particle board not solid ?
snip...

I had a national provider of custom cabinets make a full set of "Euro"
cabinet boxes to fit my odd-sized kitchen and then added my own doors and
drawer fronts. The box material is melamine-coated particle board -- the
standard material for this sort of cabinet. I attached my countertops which
consist of 3/4" exterior ply, 1/2" exterior ply, 1/2" cement board under
tile using appropriately sized screws (stainless deck screws in my case) up
through the cabinet cleats and using "trim" washers to spread the load
across more of the cleat surface. When building the substrate, you must be
sure to stagger all of the seams. Adding some wood glue between the plywood
layers and then using thinset between the cement board and top ply layer
will give and extremely solid substrate for the tile. Use the proper screws
to fasten the cement board to the ply but be sure to get the heads down
flush to save aggravation later on! DAMHIKT
--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]

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fa

"fgphotog"

in reply to "fgphotog" on 05/10/2003 5:56 PM

04/10/2003 9:02 PM

sorry about that, i had no idea the clock was a day ahead - mystery. No idea
how or when that occurred. Maybe the battery is giving up ?




"Groggy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Frank,
>
> please fix the date on your computer. This is a technique used by some to
> keep their post at the top of the list.
>
> Greg
>
>

Gg

"Groggy"

in reply to "fgphotog" on 05/10/2003 5:56 PM

05/10/2003 12:42 AM

Frank,

please fix the date on your computer. This is a technique used by some to
keep their post at the top of the list.

Greg

Gg

"Groggy"

in reply to "fgphotog" on 05/10/2003 5:56 PM

05/10/2003 1:20 AM

"fgphotog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> sorry about that, i had no idea the clock was a day ahead - mystery. No
idea
> how or when that occurred. Maybe the battery is giving up ?

I don't know, if that were the case I think the other BIOS settings would be
playing up too. Anyway, fixed now.

cheers,

Greg


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