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"ChairMan"

04/05/2010 11:04 PM

Mother of Pearl Inlay?

What adhesive is usually used to glue mother of pearl inlay in with.
I need to repair a chair that has been f**ked up by someone else repairing
it and need to clean and repair it properly

pics posted to ABPW

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"ChairMan"

in reply to "ChairMan" on 04/05/2010 11:04 PM

05/05/2010 12:07 PM

In news:[email protected],
basilisk <[email protected]>spewed forth:
> "ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> What adhesive is usually used to glue mother of pearl inlay in with.
>> I need to repair a chair that has been f**ked up by someone else
>> repairing it and need to clean and repair it properly
>>
>> pics posted to ABPW
>
> Any idea how old this chair is?
>
> I'm guessing, most likely hide glue or some
> other animal glue.
>
> cover the spot with a very hot, damp rag
> and see if the mother-of -pearl turns loose.
>
> basilisk

I have no idea how old it is.
I'm more worried about cleaning the old glue out, it looks pretty screwed
up from what I can tell from the pics
Hide glue is what I was thinking too, but wasn't sure since I've never done
any inlay
Thanks

Sb

"SonomaProducts.com"

in reply to "ChairMan" on 04/05/2010 11:04 PM

05/05/2010 1:09 PM

Not sure what would have been used but I would use epoxy today.
Disimilar materials can be hard to glue.

Also, use good dust protection as moter of pearl is very toxic to
breath dust. Most people sand it under water.

On May 4, 9:04=A0pm, "ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> What adhesive is usually used to glue mother of pearl inlay in with.
> I need to repair a chair that has been f**ked up by someone else repairin=
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> it and need to clean and repair it properly
>
> pics posted to ABPW
>
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>
> Never Forgethttp://www.gunstuff.com/america-attacked.html

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"ChairMan"

in reply to "ChairMan" on 04/05/2010 11:04 PM

06/05/2010 9:14 AM

In news:[email protected],
Andy Dingley <[email protected]>spewed forth:
> On 5 May, 05:04, "ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What adhesive is usually used to glue mother of pearl inlay in with.
>
> Usually?.... Don't go there. Probably whatever is nearest.
>
> For good work, this should be hide glue. It's also fussy, and some
> workers had their own favoured formulations. The problem is
> differential expansion with heat or moisture changes. For that reason
> I wouldn't use hide, I'd use rabbit skin (same suppliers, widely used
> for bookbinding) because it's much more flexible. Some also use fish
> glue because it has better tack and hold onto awkward materials like
> shell (this can depend on the roughness of the back surface).
>
> Epoxy is also used on modern work, takes a colour for gap filling and
> fills nicely. I'd probably use it on modern work, but not for repairs.
>
> Victorian inlay, especially with brass, often used early "rubber
> solution" glues, based on neoprene (et al) dissolved in fiendish
> solvents like carbon disulphide. These were also used for sticking
> leather wraps onto brass tubes for scientific instruments. There are
> also period glues like Croid.
>
> On the whole, it depends. it depends on your materials, your needs and
> your care for authenticity. But I'd experiment with the same materials
> before and practice on small pieces first.
>
> Glassworking tools, like a ring saw, are great for accurate shaping if
> you know someone who does stained glass.

Thanks for the good info

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Andy Dingley

in reply to "ChairMan" on 04/05/2010 11:04 PM

05/05/2010 4:19 PM

On 5 May, 05:04, "ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> What adhesive is usually used to glue mother of pearl inlay in with.

Usually?.... Don't go there. Probably whatever is nearest.

For good work, this should be hide glue. It's also fussy, and some
workers had their own favoured formulations. The problem is
differential expansion with heat or moisture changes. For that reason
I wouldn't use hide, I'd use rabbit skin (same suppliers, widely used
for bookbinding) because it's much more flexible. Some also use fish
glue because it has better tack and hold onto awkward materials like
shell (this can depend on the roughness of the back surface).

Epoxy is also used on modern work, takes a colour for gap filling and
fills nicely. I'd probably use it on modern work, but not for repairs.

Victorian inlay, especially with brass, often used early "rubber
solution" glues, based on neoprene (et al) dissolved in fiendish
solvents like carbon disulphide. These were also used for sticking
leather wraps onto brass tubes for scientific instruments. There are
also period glues like Croid.

On the whole, it depends. it depends on your materials, your needs and
your care for authenticity. But I'd experiment with the same materials
before and practice on small pieces first.

Glassworking tools, like a ring saw, are great for accurate shaping if
you know someone who does stained glass.

bb

"basilisk"

in reply to "ChairMan" on 04/05/2010 11:04 PM

05/05/2010 6:37 AM


"ChairMan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What adhesive is usually used to glue mother of pearl inlay in with.
> I need to repair a chair that has been f**ked up by someone else repairing
> it and need to clean and repair it properly
>
> pics posted to ABPW

Any idea how old this chair is?

I'm guessing, most likely hide glue or some
other animal glue.

cover the spot with a very hot, damp rag
and see if the mother-of -pearl turns loose.

basilisk


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