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eric h

18/10/2007 2:07 AM

How many woodworkers would like to see a supply of Formica offcuts made available?

Hi,

I have a store on ebay that sells offcuts of UHMW, Delrin, teflon and
various Nylons.

I'm not going to spam you with a link, I'm doing research (But the ID
on ebay is surplusdealdude, if you wanna look ;-) )

Anyways, a gentleman over opn re.crafts.metalworking suggested that
people were looking for a source of Formica. He thinks that it's
tough to get small pieces.

So I thought I'd ask around and see if this is something I should be
stocking. I may have a source available that could provide some nice
pieces (we'd be talking 15" x 24, maybe.

Any suggestions as to price, etc, would be welcome.


This topic has 10 replies

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eric h

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

18/10/2007 3:39 AM

On Oct 17, 11:44 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "eric h" wrote:
> > I have a store on ebay that sells offcuts of UHMW, Delrin, teflon
> and
> > various Nylons.
>
> UHMWPE, 1/2" thick, various widths, 30-36" long have a lot of
> applications for fences, etc.
>
> Where are you shipping from?
>
> Lew

I ship from Canada.

Just a suggestion, though - if you want to use material for a fence,
Delrin is a lot stiffer and more slippery than UHMW. It's a harder
plastic, but very machineable with any woodworking tool.

Rr

RicodJour

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

18/10/2007 2:10 PM

On Oct 18, 2:29 pm, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Just a passing thought -- one of the better window/glass shops in town
> backs up on the alley across from the church. Each Sunday I make a
> point of looking the scrap bin and dumpster to see what is
> there...sometimes if I didn't bring the truck and it's particularly
> "interesting" and large I even go home and come back...

So, are you praying in church that there'll be some 'gold' in there
before you hit the dumpster? Or do you hit the dumpster first? It's
all a question of priorities. ;)

R

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eric h

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

18/10/2007 10:06 PM

On Oct 18, 1:24 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "eric h" wrote:
> > I ship from Canada.
>
> Big country, which one of the 11 time zones?
>
> > Just a suggestion, though - if you want to use material for a fence,
> > Delrin is a lot stiffer and more slippery than UHMW. It's a harder
> > plastic, but very machineable with any woodworking tool.
>
> Works for me.
>
> Lew

Sorry, I should have said Southern Ontario, Canada.

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eric h

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

18/10/2007 10:10 PM

On Oct 18, 1:42 pm, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> eric h wrote:
> > On Oct 17, 11:44 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "eric h" wrote:
> >>> I have a store on ebay that sells offcuts of UHMW, Delrin, teflon
> >> and
> >>> various Nylons.
> >> UHMWPE, 1/2" thick, various widths, 30-36" long have a lot of
> >> applications for fences, etc.
>
> >> Where are you shipping from?
> ...
> > I ship from Canada.
>
> ...
>
> W/ Lew, that covers a lot of territory. Being in the US, I normally
> screen out non-US shippers.
>
> For Formica, I'd be surprised if there were much demand as most any
> place w/ a cabinet shop has access to quite a bit of waste stock, often
> for the collecting. Of course, some folks seem to overlook the obvious
> local sources and go trolling the internet thinking that's the end-all,
> but that's them. Then, any sizable city is bound to have the salvage
> freight places, etc., as well, most of which will have the odd plastic
> laminates for pretty cheap (relatively, anyway) prices as well...
>
> A low-cost supply of the other less common plastics in usable sizes
> would be worthwhile if the product cost can be sufficiently low to make
> up for shipping. Of course, the local glass supply shop may have ends
> of many of those, particularly the transparents, as well. It's the
> nylon, UMHW, Delrin, etc., that are the less common that would be most
> useful to have inexpensive supply outlet for, I'd think, at least from
> my perspective.
>
> --

Well, I'd be the first to admit that buying 1 item isn't as cheap as
I'd like to see it - shipping is expensive nowadays.

But the combined shipping and store discount doers bring the cost down
significantly.

And if you're one of those unfortunate people that lives near plastic
suppliers that have changed over to the "minimum square foot" pricing,
small pieces of Delrin are just outta sight. Imagine getting charged
$400 for a 4" cube - we look pretty good next to that regardless of
what the shipping is.

eh

eric h

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

18/10/2007 10:12 PM

On Oct 18, 2:29 pm, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
> dpb wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > A low-cost supply of the other less common plastics in usable sizes
> > would be worthwhile if the product cost can be sufficiently low to make
> > up for shipping. Of course, the local glass supply shop may have ends ...
>
> Just a passing thought -- one of the better window/glass shops in town
> backs up on the alley across from the church. Each Sunday I make a
> point of looking the scrap bin and dumpster to see what is
> there...sometimes if I didn't bring the truck and it's particularly
> "interesting" and large I even go home and come back...
>
> Again, the harder materials are by far the least frequent, but not
> unheard of. Sometimes, one wonders "just what _were_ they thinking?" or
> "does Jeff have any idea what the guys in the shop pitched out
> yesterday?" :)
>
> --

I often get that feeling, too.

Last year, one of my suppliers threw out a 40 x 40 x 4" piece of
UHMW. Must have been worth $1500.

I've got 2 pieces of white Delrin now that are worth somewhere around
$600 each. We're selling them for $175.

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

17/10/2007 8:44 PM


"eric h" wrote:

> I have a store on ebay that sells offcuts of UHMW, Delrin, teflon
and
> various Nylons.

UHMWPE, 1/2" thick, various widths, 30-36" long have a lot of
applications for fences, etc.

Where are you shipping from?

Lew

LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

18/10/2007 10:24 AM


"eric h" wrote:

> I ship from Canada.

Big country, which one of the 11 time zones?

> Just a suggestion, though - if you want to use material for a fence,
> Delrin is a lot stiffer and more slippery than UHMW. It's a harder
> plastic, but very machineable with any woodworking tool.

Works for me.

Lew



dn

dpb

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

18/10/2007 12:42 PM

eric h wrote:
> On Oct 17, 11:44 pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "eric h" wrote:
>>> I have a store on ebay that sells offcuts of UHMW, Delrin, teflon
>> and
>>> various Nylons.
>> UHMWPE, 1/2" thick, various widths, 30-36" long have a lot of
>> applications for fences, etc.
>>
>> Where are you shipping from?
...
> I ship from Canada.
...

W/ Lew, that covers a lot of territory. Being in the US, I normally
screen out non-US shippers.

For Formica, I'd be surprised if there were much demand as most any
place w/ a cabinet shop has access to quite a bit of waste stock, often
for the collecting. Of course, some folks seem to overlook the obvious
local sources and go trolling the internet thinking that's the end-all,
but that's them. Then, any sizable city is bound to have the salvage
freight places, etc., as well, most of which will have the odd plastic
laminates for pretty cheap (relatively, anyway) prices as well...

A low-cost supply of the other less common plastics in usable sizes
would be worthwhile if the product cost can be sufficiently low to make
up for shipping. Of course, the local glass supply shop may have ends
of many of those, particularly the transparents, as well. It's the
nylon, UMHW, Delrin, etc., that are the less common that would be most
useful to have inexpensive supply outlet for, I'd think, at least from
my perspective.

--

dn

dpb

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

18/10/2007 1:29 PM

dpb wrote:
...
> A low-cost supply of the other less common plastics in usable sizes
> would be worthwhile if the product cost can be sufficiently low to make
> up for shipping. Of course, the local glass supply shop may have ends ...

Just a passing thought -- one of the better window/glass shops in town
backs up on the alley across from the church. Each Sunday I make a
point of looking the scrap bin and dumpster to see what is
there...sometimes if I didn't bring the truck and it's particularly
"interesting" and large I even go home and come back...

Again, the harder materials are by far the least frequent, but not
unheard of. Sometimes, one wonders "just what _were_ they thinking?" or
"does Jeff have any idea what the guys in the shop pitched out
yesterday?" :)

--

dn

dpb

in reply to eric h on 18/10/2007 2:07 AM

18/10/2007 4:17 PM

RicodJour wrote:
> On Oct 18, 2:29 pm, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Just a passing thought -- one of the better window/glass shops in town
>> backs up on the alley across from the church. Each Sunday I make a
>> point of looking the scrap bin and dumpster to see what is
>> there...sometimes if I didn't bring the truck and it's particularly
>> "interesting" and large I even go home and come back...
>
> So, are you praying in church that there'll be some 'gold' in there
> before you hit the dumpster? Or do you hit the dumpster first? It's
> all a question of priorities. ;)

:)

Usually I park on the side and come in the back door which leads by the
dumpster to take a look on the way in...only if that place is full do I
have to wait until afterwards to discover if there's paydirt to be had... :)

It averages about once/month I guess of something useful in general,
more like every several months that it's unique enough I actually pick
it out any more, now that I have a fair stock of "ordinary" material.
But, once in a while, it's quite a find. Picked up a piece of 1/2"
tempered/darkened 3' x 8' w/ only a couple inches broken out of one
corner a year or so ago. That one took another guy to help to get in
the truck and made for a set of tabletops...

Last haul was about 8' of 1/8" Lexan 60" wide. Had a crack through a
section, but there's a whole lot of useful material to be had out of it.
All of the glass for the new windows for the barn will come out of a
half-dozen or so partial sheets.

When a place must cut a dozen 8x12 panes a week, why pieces that will
yield two or three each are simply pitched as standard operating
practice still amazes me.

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