A week ago today there was a brush fire in Pales Verdes (L/A burb)
which was extinguished with minimal damage.
Just announced another fire has broken out in Pales Verdes.
This time the "Super Scoopers" from Quebec are on the job.
(2 planes, 1,400 gallons/plane)
Since the ocean is near, this one should not take long.
Lew
"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Scott Lurndal" wrote:
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>>> I suspect they only dump fresh water, not salt water.
>>
>> You would suspect wrong<G>.
>>
>> They were definitely were filling up in the Pacific which is less than a
>> mile away as the crow flies.
>>
>> Probably scrub down upon return to airport.
>>
>> Lew
>
>
> Yeah but! with salt water wouldn't there be a lot of ecological damage to
> the plants and trees, all that salt? ;~)
>
As a human (or plant) I would much prefer a little salt to an all consuming
FIRE!
On Sep 4, 6:36=A0pm, "Lee Michaels" <leemichaels*[email protected]>
wrote:
> "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> news:[email protected]...
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> > "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >news:[email protected]...
> >> "Scott Lurndal" wrote:
>
> >>> I suspect they only dump fresh water, not salt water.
>
> >> You would suspect wrong<G>.
>
> >> They were definitely were filling up in the Pacific which is less than=
a
> >> mile away as the crow flies.
>
> >> Probably scrub down upon return to airport.
>
> >> Lew
>
> > Yeah but! =A0with salt water wouldn't there be a lot of ecological dama=
ge to
> > the plants and trees, all that salt? =A0 ;~)
>
> As a human (or plant) I would much prefer a little salt to an all consumi=
ng
> FIRE!
I never cook anything without at least a little salt....
On Sep 5, 12:17=A0am, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mike M wrote:
> > Mayor Nichols tried that line for not using salt to clear the roads
> > this winter. =A0Didn't want to hurt the salmon by flushing salt in to
> > Puget Sound. =A0Mayor Whoosie didn't even finish the primary last month=
.
>
> > Mike M
>
> =A0 Sounds like Denver's Mayor Pena a number of years ago. =A0His claim t=
o
> infamy was declaring that rather than clearing the streets using snowplow=
s,
> Denver city services would just use the garbage trucks to pack down the
> snow so people could drive on top of it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:21:14 -0500, "Leon" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >>news:[email protected]...
> >>> "Scott Lurndal" wrote:
>
> >>>> I suspect they only dump fresh water, not salt water.
>
> >>> You would suspect wrong<G>.
>
> >>> They were definitely were filling up in the Pacific which is less tha=
n a
> >>> mile away as the crow flies.
>
> >>> Probably scrub down upon return to airport.
>
> >>> Lew
>
> >>Yeah but! =A0with salt water wouldn't there be a lot of ecological dama=
ge to
> >>the plants and trees, all that salt? =A0 ;~)
>
> --
>
> There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
>
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Mark,
Ever been to NYC in the winter? All the city garbage trucks have plows
on them.
Norm
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:21:14 -0500, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Yeah but! with salt water wouldn't there be a lot of ecological damage to
>the plants and trees, all that salt? ;~)
Environmental impact study anyone? By the time EPA finished the
review, there wouldn't be a California left.
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hopefully, the scoopers won't scoop a recreational snorkler along the
way....
Not likely but there's a first time for everything.
Mike M wrote:
> Mayor Nichols tried that line for not using salt to clear the roads
> this winter. Didn't want to hurt the salmon by flushing salt in to
> Puget Sound. Mayor Whoosie didn't even finish the primary last month.
>
> Mike M
>
Sounds like Denver's Mayor Pena a number of years ago. His claim to
infamy was declaring that rather than clearing the streets using snowplows,
Denver city services would just use the garbage trucks to pack down the
snow so people could drive on top of it.
>
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:21:14 -0500, "Leon" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> "Scott Lurndal" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I suspect they only dump fresh water, not salt water.
>>>
>>> You would suspect wrong<G>.
>>>
>>> They were definitely were filling up in the Pacific which is less than a
>>> mile away as the crow flies.
>>>
>>> Probably scrub down upon return to airport.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>
>>
>>Yeah but! with salt water wouldn't there be a lot of ecological damage to
>>the plants and trees, all that salt? ;~)
>>
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
Leon wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>"Scott Lurndal" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I suspect they only dump fresh water, not salt water.
>>
>>You would suspect wrong<G>.
>>
>>They were definitely were filling up in the Pacific which is less than a
>>mile away as the crow flies.
>>
>>Probably scrub down upon return to airport.
>>
>>Lew
>
>
>
> Yeah but! with salt water wouldn't there be a lot of ecological damage to
> the plants and trees, all that salt? ;~)
>
>
Seasoning.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected]
krw <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:17:05 -0700, Mark & Juanita
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Mike M wrote:
>>
>>> Mayor Nichols tried that line for not using salt to clear the roads
>>> this winter. Didn't want to hurt the salmon by flushing salt in to
>>> Puget Sound. Mayor Whoosie didn't even finish the primary last
>>> month.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like Denver's Mayor Pena a number of years ago. His claim to
>>infamy was declaring that rather than clearing the streets using
>>snowplows, Denver city services would just use the garbage trucks to
>>pack down the snow so people could drive on top of it.
>
> I've seen cases, when I lived in Vermont, where that's all that could
> be done with it. Too cold for salt, too fast to plow. We drove on
> about a foot of packed snow for a couple of weeks. It really isn't
> difficult driving on packed snow, until it starts thawing. ;-)
>
Well, the village on LI where we lived for 18 years was rather cheap and
wouldn't really do anything except at the intersections. One year we had
weekly snowstorms (Wednesdays), and the snow compacted into several
inches of ice, which was quite treacherous for wheeled and foot traffic.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Mayor Nichols tried that line for not using salt to clear the roads
this winter. Didn't want to hurt the salmon by flushing salt in to
Puget Sound. Mayor Whoosie didn't even finish the primary last month.
Mike M
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:21:14 -0500, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> "Scott Lurndal" wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect they only dump fresh water, not salt water.
>>
>> You would suspect wrong<G>.
>>
>> They were definitely were filling up in the Pacific which is less than a
>> mile away as the crow flies.
>>
>> Probably scrub down upon return to airport.
>>
>> Lew
>
>
>Yeah but! with salt water wouldn't there be a lot of ecological damage to
>the plants and trees, all that salt? ;~)
>
On Sep 3, 8:43=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> A week ago today there was a brush fire in Pales Verdes (L/A burb)
> which was extinguished with minimal damage.
>
> Just announced another fire has broken out in Pales Verdes.
>
> This time the "Super Scoopers" from Quebec are on the job.
>
> (2 planes, 1,400 gallons/plane)
>
> Since the ocean is near, this one should not take long.
>
> Lew
Hopefully, the scoopers won't scoop a recreational snorkler along the
way....
CW wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:eda31c23-e055-49f5-a938-075848b237b7@x37g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
> Hopefully, the scoopers won't scoop a recreational snorkler along the
> way....
>
> Not likely but there's a first time for everything.
Anybody else seen "Always"? John Goodman and Richard Dreyfus flying water
bombers? Audrey Hepburn's last movie before she died? Starts out with a
couple of guys on a lake fishing . . .
Mark & Juanita wrote:
>
> There was no intent to equip Denver's garbage trucks with plows,
> just to proceed on the principle that the trucks were heavy enough to
> pack the snow and provide a path for other vehicle traffic. This was
> part of Pena's approach to saving money on structural services so he
> could use the money for his pet social services.
>
Hey, it was a good enough plan to land him a job as Secretary of
Transportation under Clinton.
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:17:05 -0700, Mark & Juanita
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Mike M wrote:
>
>> Mayor Nichols tried that line for not using salt to clear the roads
>> this winter. Didn't want to hurt the salmon by flushing salt in to
>> Puget Sound. Mayor Whoosie didn't even finish the primary last month.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>
> Sounds like Denver's Mayor Pena a number of years ago. His claim to
>infamy was declaring that rather than clearing the streets using snowplows,
>Denver city services would just use the garbage trucks to pack down the
>snow so people could drive on top of it.
I've seen cases, when I lived in Vermont, where that's all that could
be done with it. Too cold for salt, too fast to plow. We drove on
about a foot of packed snow for a couple of weeks. It really isn't
difficult driving on packed snow, until it starts thawing. ;-)
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> writes:
>A week ago today there was a brush fire in Pales Verdes (L/A burb)
>which was extinguished with minimal damage.
>
>Just announced another fire has broken out in Pales Verdes.
>
>This time the "Super Scoopers" from Quebec are on the job.
>
>(2 planes, 1,400 gallons/plane)
>
>Since the ocean is near, this one should not take long.
>
>Lew
>
I suspect they only dump fresh water, not salt water.
scott
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Scott Lurndal" wrote:
>
>> I suspect they only dump fresh water, not salt water.
>
> You would suspect wrong<G>.
>
> They were definitely were filling up in the Pacific which is less than a
> mile away as the crow flies.
>
> Probably scrub down upon return to airport.
>
> Lew
Yeah but! with salt water wouldn't there be a lot of ecological damage to
the plants and trees, all that salt? ;~)
krw wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:17:05 -0700, Mark & Juanita
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Mike M wrote:
>>
>>> Mayor Nichols tried that line for not using salt to clear the roads
>>> this winter. Didn't want to hurt the salmon by flushing salt in to
>>> Puget Sound. Mayor Whoosie didn't even finish the primary last month.
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like Denver's Mayor Pena a number of years ago. His claim to
>>infamy was declaring that rather than clearing the streets using
>>snowplows, Denver city services would just use the garbage trucks to pack
>>down the snow so people could drive on top of it.
>
> I've seen cases, when I lived in Vermont, where that's all that could
> be done with it. Too cold for salt, too fast to plow. We drove on
> about a foot of packed snow for a couple of weeks. It really isn't
> difficult driving on packed snow, until it starts thawing. ;-)
IIRC that was the problem. In the climate of Denver, snow doesn't stick
around all winter, but it can freeze and thaw continuously. Basically made
the roads near unpassable with icy ruts throughout. This happened as I
finished school and had just moved away, so I don't recall how long this
fiasco lasted, but it wasn't long.
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
Nahmie wrote:
> On Sep 5, 12:17Â am, Mark & Juanita <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Mike M wrote:
>> > Mayor Nichols tried that line for not using salt to clear the roads
>> > this winter. Â Didn't want to hurt the salmon by flushing salt in to
>> > Puget Sound. Â Mayor Whoosie didn't even finish the primary last month.
>>
>> > Mike M
>>
>> Sounds like Denver's Mayor Pena a number of years ago. Â His claim to
>> infamy was declaring that rather than clearing the streets using
>> snowplows, Denver city services would just use the garbage trucks to pack
>> down the snow so people could drive on top of it.
>>
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>>
>> --
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>
> Mark,
>
> Ever been to NYC in the winter?
Thankfully no.
> All the city garbage trucks have plows
> on them.
>
There was no intent to equip Denver's garbage trucks with plows, just to
proceed on the principle that the trucks were heavy enough to pack the snow
and provide a path for other vehicle traffic. This was part of Pena's
approach to saving money on structural services so he could use the money
for his pet social services.
> Norm
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham