Hi.
I am about half way thru building a door frame from a
red hardwood verticals and mahogany/sapele horizontal members.
I have used a variety of M&T joints and have just tried out the
first fitting together of the pieces I have completed so far
and it wasn't too bad..my try square seems to like it anyway.
So, on to glue choice. One or two of my tenons suffered a little too
much
chiselling in the process of making them fit so there is a little bit
of wobble
in them. So I have a bit of fear that when it come to gluing up I may
have
a lot less tenon pressing against mortise than I should have and
therefore the joint
will not be very strong. So is there a glue that is ideal for a job
like this?
It needs to be for exterior use.
Thanks.
Arthur
On 14 Jul, 13:08, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Arthur 51 wrote:
> > Hi.
> > I am about half way thru building a door frame from a
> > red hardwood verticals and mahogany/sapele horizontal members.
> > I have used a variety of M&T joints and have just tried out the
> > first fitting together of the pieces I have completed so far
> > and it wasn't too bad..my try square seems to like it anyway.
>
> > So, on to glue choice. One or two of my tenons suffered a little too
> > much
> > chiselling in the process of making them fit so there is a little
> > bit
> > of wobble
> > in them. So I have a bit of fear that when it come to gluing up I
> > may
> > have
> > a lot less tenon pressing against mortise than I should have and
> > therefore the joint
> > will not be very strong. So is there a glue that is ideal for a job
> > like this?
> > It needs to be for exterior use.
>
> Epoxy mixed with cotton flock or milled glass fibershttp://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/cm/thickening.html. Note that the
> glass fibers if you get them on you are going to itch like crazy.
>
> --
> --
Yes.
I saw some of the filler products on West System's web site.
It looks like the answer!
Thanks.
Arthur
Arthur
On Jul 14, 7:09=A0am, Arthur 51 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi.
> I am about half way thru building a door frame from a
> red hardwood verticals and mahogany/sapele horizontal members.
> I have used a variety of M&T joints and have just tried out the
> first fitting together of the pieces I have completed so far
> and it wasn't too bad..my try square seems to like it anyway.
>
> So, on to glue choice. One or two of my tenons suffered a little too
> much
> chiselling in the process of making them fit so there is a little bit
> of wobble
> in them. =A0So I have a bit of fear that when it come to gluing up I may
> have
> a lot less tenon pressing against mortise than I should have and
> therefore the joint
> will not be very strong. =A0So is there a glue that is ideal for a job
> like this?
> It needs to be for exterior use.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arthur
My recommendation for glue would be Titebond III. As for the loose
tenons, they are a seperate issue and should be shimmed with veneer or
suitably sized wedges.
"Arthur 51" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi.
> I am about half way thru building a door frame from a
> red hardwood verticals and mahogany/sapele horizontal members.
> I have used a variety of M&T joints and have just tried out the
> first fitting together of the pieces I have completed so far
> and it wasn't too bad..my try square seems to like it anyway.
>
> So, on to glue choice. One or two of my tenons suffered a little too
> much
> chiselling in the process of making them fit so there is a little bit
> of wobble
> in them. So I have a bit of fear that when it come to gluing up I may
> have
> a lot less tenon pressing against mortise than I should have and
> therefore the joint
> will not be very strong. So is there a glue that is ideal for a job
> like this?
> It needs to be for exterior use.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arthur
If your tennons are a bit undersized, smooth them up and glue thin shims to
them and reshape. Epoxy would be your best bet.
On 14 Jul, 13:08, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Arthur 51 wrote:
> > Hi.
> > I am about half way thru building a door frame from a
> > red hardwood verticals and mahogany/sapele horizontal members.
> > I have used a variety of M&T joints and have just tried out the
> > first fitting together of the pieces I have completed so far
> > and it wasn't too bad..my try square seems to like it anyway.
>
> > So, on to glue choice. One or two of my tenons suffered a little too
> > much
> > chiselling in the process of making them fit so there is a little
> > bit
> > of wobble
> > in them. So I have a bit of fear that when it come to gluing up I
> > may
> > have
> > a lot less tenon pressing against mortise than I should have and
> > therefore the joint
> > will not be very strong. So is there a glue that is ideal for a job
> > like this?
> > It needs to be for exterior use.
>
> Epoxy mixed with cotton flock or milled glass fibershttp://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/cm/thickening.html. Note that the
> glass fibers if you get them on you are going to itch like crazy.
>
> --
> --
Yes.
I saw some of the filler products on West System's web site.
It looks like the answer!
Thanks.
Arthur
Arthur
Arthur 51 wrote:
> Hi.
> I am about half way thru building a door frame from a
> red hardwood verticals and mahogany/sapele horizontal members.
> I have used a variety of M&T joints and have just tried out the
> first fitting together of the pieces I have completed so far
> and it wasn't too bad..my try square seems to like it anyway.
>
> So, on to glue choice. One or two of my tenons suffered a little too
> much
> chiselling in the process of making them fit so there is a little
> bit
> of wobble
> in them. So I have a bit of fear that when it come to gluing up I
> may
> have
> a lot less tenon pressing against mortise than I should have and
> therefore the joint
> will not be very strong. So is there a glue that is ideal for a job
> like this?
> It needs to be for exterior use.
Epoxy mixed with cotton flock or milled glass fibers
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/cm/thickening.html. Note that the
glass fibers if you get them on you are going to itch like crazy.
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--
--John
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:09:51 -0700, Arthur 51 wrote:
> So, on to glue choice. One or two of my tenons suffered a little too
> much
> chiselling in the process of making them fit so there is a little bit
> of wobble
> in them. So I have a bit of fear that when it come to gluing up I may
> have
> a lot less tenon pressing against mortise than I should have and
> therefore the joint
> will not be very strong. So is there a glue that is ideal for a job
> like this?
The standard solution to this problem is not glue. Take a piece of veneer
and glue to the loose tenon to tighten it.
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:09:51 -0700 (PDT), Arthur 51
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hi.
>I am about half way thru building a door frame from a
>red hardwood verticals and mahogany/sapele horizontal members.
>I have used a variety of M&T joints and have just tried out the
>first fitting together of the pieces I have completed so far
>and it wasn't too bad..my try square seems to like it anyway.
>
>So, on to glue choice. One or two of my tenons suffered a little too
>much
>chiselling in the process of making them fit so there is a little bit
>of wobble
>in them. So I have a bit of fear that when it come to gluing up I may
>have
>a lot less tenon pressing against mortise than I should have and
>therefore the joint
>will not be very strong. So is there a glue that is ideal for a job
>like this?
>It needs to be for exterior use.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Arthur
>
Fuss with the tenon or mortise to get a good fit--not tight but snug.
No glue makes up for a sloppy fit.
A good quality Epoxy?
"Arthur 51" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Hi.
I am about half way thru building a door frame from a
red hardwood verticals and mahogany/sapele horizontal members.
I have used a variety of M&T joints and have just tried out the
first fitting together of the pieces I have completed so far
and it wasn't too bad..my try square seems to like it anyway.
So, on to glue choice. One or two of my tenons suffered a little too
much
chiselling in the process of making them fit so there is a little bit
of wobble
in them. So I have a bit of fear that when it come to gluing up I may
have
a lot less tenon pressing against mortise than I should have and
therefore the joint
will not be very strong. So is there a glue that is ideal for a job
like this?
It needs to be for exterior use.
Thanks.
Arthur