My fixed base Porter Cable 5201 router must be at least 25 years old. It i=
s a large 3.5 HP I believe. It still seems to be in excellent condition. Ho=
wever I am concerned about replacing the carbon brushes. This router has b=
een discontinued and PC have no information about it. After some hunting I =
managed to find a schematic diagram online with a parts number list. I man=
aged to find one replacement brush after searching the entire Internet. T=
he brush part is a simple design. The carbon is held in a holder attached t=
o a spring. My simplistic idea is that it should be easy to trim down a r=
eadily available carbon piece to the size of the OEM part. Can anyone advi=
se me if this is a doable approach. I abhor the idea of a perfectly good =
machine being rendered inoperative for the want of a $3 part.
I am also disappointed by the total lack of support from PC. These America=
n built routers were built for longevity and they should have had a strateg=
y to maintain a supply of parts for the wearable parts such as brushes and =
bearings.
If anyone has any information on the history of this model router (5201, ba=
se 5202) I would love to hear it.
One last query. The model number includes in the name field the designation=
Type 2. What does this mean ?
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 10:05:48 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 8:44:19 AM UTC-5, Desmond Walsh wrote:
> > I managed to find one replacement brush after searching the entire
> > Internet.
>
> Does that mean you have a Tor Browser? ;-)
OK OK a little hyperbole on my part. But, I did scroll through the entire google results set - about 20 pages. Like dark matter, there is much more out there but sadly inaccessible to standard browsers
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 1:03:09 PM UTC-6, Desmond Walsh wrote:
> The PC part number is 695414. That is the only number that I am aware of=
. I don't understand what you mean by the reference number
I'm aware of that number. Sometimes, there is a manufacture's number embos=
sed on the brush body, itself. One uses that number for reference, for pur=
chasing at the hardware store.
What is the width, height and length of your remaining brush's body? Acco=
rding to one site, the brush dimensions are width 5, height 5 and length 5.=
I have no idea what measuring system was used. I can only assume the br=
ush body may be 1/2" X 1/2" X 1/2", according to the above, but that doesn'=
t seem right, as per the PC parts diagram view.... and common sense!
Sonny
My local Ace Hardware has a cache of brushes. I've purchased brushes for my 20-30 yr old PC disc sander and 20-25 yr old Delta Sawbuck.
The local Guidry Hardware has a cache of brushes, also.
Both businesses have been around for ages. Check with your local olde-time local hardware stores.
What is the reference number on ther old brushes (not PC's part number)?
Sonny
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 11:52:14 AM UTC-5, Sonny wrote:
> My local Ace Hardware has a cache of brushes. I've purchased brushes for my 20-30 yr old PC disc sander and 20-25 yr old Delta Sawbuck.
>
> The local Guidry Hardware has a cache of brushes, also.
>
> Both businesses have been around for ages. Check with your local olde-time local hardware stores.
>
> What is the reference number on ther old brushes (not PC's part number)?
>
> Sonny
The PC part number is 695414. That is the only number that I am aware of. I don't understand what you mean by the reference number
> Here's the guy I mentioned in another post:
>
> Dick Jarmon, [email protected]
>
> Really a pleasure to talk to, and he had the part I needed. Here's a
> video and article:
>
> http://www.finewoodworking.com/2006/09/07/dick-jarmon-ultimate-tool-collector
I tried to send an email to the address [email protected] but mail delivery said it was undeliverable. It changed the address to [email protected]
On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 12:37:50 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
> On 12/1/2016 12:05 PM, Desmond Walsh wrote:
> >> Here's the guy I mentioned in another post:
> >>
> >> Dick Jarmon, [email protected]
> >>
> >> Really a pleasure to talk to, and he had the part I needed. Here's a
> >> video and article:
> >>
> >> http://www.finewoodworking.com/2006/09/07/dick-jarmon-ultimate-tool-collector
> >
> > I tried to send an email to the address [email protected] but mail delivery said it was undeliverable. It changed the address to [email protected]
> >
> did that work?
UPDATE: Found another contact address: [email protected]. This seems to work
On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 1:23:38 PM UTC-6, Sonny wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 1:03:09 PM UTC-6, Desmond Walsh wrote:
>
> > The PC part number is 695414. That is the only number that I am aware of. I don't understand what you mean by the reference number
>
My PC disk sander uses PC brush part #802173. The number on the brush, itself, is 223. Ace uses this 223 number for cataloging in their cache.
Last time I bought brushes for the sander, I bought several pairs.... still have them. Measures 1/4" X 1/4" X 5/8" (7mm X 7mm X 17mm).
I thought to go by Ace or Guidry Hardware to see if they have your brushes.
Sonny
[email protected] writes:
>I am also disappointed by the total lack of support from PC. These America=
>n built routers were built for longevity and they should have had a strateg=
>y to maintain a supply of parts for the wearable parts such as brushes and =
>bearings.
Sometime during the reagan administration, the tax code was changed such
that it was no longer benificial to keep long-term inventory. My company
at the time dumped warehouses full of useful old parts to avoid additional
federal taxes. I assume that P-C (or its current owners) have similar tax
issues on unsold inventory.
On 11/30/2016 8:44 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> My fixed base Porter Cable 5201 router must be at least 25 years old. It is a large 3.5 HP I believe. It still seems to be in excellent condition. However I am concerned about replacing the carbon brushes. This router has been discontinued and PC have no information about it. After some hunting I managed to find a schematic diagram online with a parts number list. I managed to find one replacement brush after searching the entire Internet. The brush part is a simple design. The carbon is held in a holder attached to a spring. My simplistic idea is that it should be easy to trim down a readily available carbon piece to the size of the OEM part. Can anyone advise me if this is a doable approach. I abhor the idea of a perfectly good machine being rendered inoperative for the want of a $3 part.
>
> I am also disappointed by the total lack of support from PC. These American built routers were built for longevity and they should have had a strategy to maintain a supply of parts for the wearable parts such as brushes and bearings.
>
> If anyone has any information on the history of this model router (5201, base 5202) I would love to hear it.
>
> One last query. The model number includes in the name field the designation Type 2. What does this mean ?
>
I don't know if I can dig up his information, but I bought a part for a
Rockwell router that was my Dad's - perhaps 1970 vintage - from a guy I
found in an online post written by someone else. He's a collector of
Rockwell and Porter Cable and doesn't advertise. Dick something, I
think. He didn't take credit cards; let me send him a check AFTER I
received the part. I look around.
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news:[email protected]...
My fixed base Porter Cable 5201 router must be at least 25 years old. It is
a large 3.5 HP I believe. It still seems to be in excellent condition.
However I am concerned about replacing the carbon brushes. This router has
been discontinued and PC have no information about it. After some hunting I
managed to find a schematic diagram online with a parts number list. I
managed to find one replacement brush after searching the entire Internet.
The brush part is a simple design. The carbon is held in a holder attached
to a spring. My simplistic idea is that it should be easy to trim down a
readily available carbon piece to the size of the OEM part. Can anyone
advise me if this is a doable approach.
No reason you can't trim a new carbon to the size/shape of the old one/
On 11/30/2016 8:44 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> My fixed base Porter Cable 5201 router must be at least 25 years old. It is a large 3.5 HP I believe. It still seems to be in excellent condition. However I am concerned about replacing the carbon brushes. This router has been discontinued and PC have no information about it. After some hunting I managed to find a schematic diagram online with a parts number list. I managed to find one replacement brush after searching the entire Internet. The brush part is a simple design. The carbon is held in a holder attached to a spring. My simplistic idea is that it should be easy to trim down a readily available carbon piece to the size of the OEM part. Can anyone advise me if this is a doable approach. I abhor the idea of a perfectly good machine being rendered inoperative for the want of a $3 part.
>
> I am also disappointed by the total lack of support from PC. These American built routers were built for longevity and they should have had a strategy to maintain a supply of parts for the wearable parts such as brushes and bearings.
>
> If anyone has any information on the history of this model router (5201, base 5202) I would love to hear it.
>
> One last query. The model number includes in the name field the designation Type 2. What does this mean ?
>
Here's the guy I mentioned in another post:
Dick Jarmon, [email protected]
Really a pleasure to talk to, and he had the part I needed. Here's a
video and article:
http://www.finewoodworking.com/2006/09/07/dick-jarmon-ultimate-tool-collector
On 12/1/2016 12:05 PM, Desmond Walsh wrote:
>> Here's the guy I mentioned in another post:
>>
>> Dick Jarmon, [email protected]
>>
>> Really a pleasure to talk to, and he had the part I needed. Here's a
>> video and article:
>>
>> http://www.finewoodworking.com/2006/09/07/dick-jarmon-ultimate-tool-collector
>
> I tried to send an email to the address [email protected] but mail delivery said it was undeliverable. It changed the address to [email protected]
>
did that work?
On 12/1/2016 2:21 PM, Desmond Walsh wrote:
> On Thursday, December 1, 2016 at 12:37:50 PM UTC-5, Greg Guarino wrote:
>> On 12/1/2016 12:05 PM, Desmond Walsh wrote:
>>>> Here's the guy I mentioned in another post:
>>>>
>>>> Dick Jarmon, [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Really a pleasure to talk to, and he had the part I needed. Here's a
>>>> video and article:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.finewoodworking.com/2006/09/07/dick-jarmon-ultimate-tool-collector
>>>
>>> I tried to send an email to the address [email protected] but mail delivery said it was undeliverable. It changed the address to [email protected]
>>>
>> did that work?
>
> UPDATE: Found another contact address: [email protected]. This seems to work
>
If you wouldn't mind, keep us posted on how it works out. He seemed to
be only incidentally in the "business" of selling parts, but apparently
has a trove.
Desmond Walsh <[email protected]> writes:
>On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 10:05:48 AM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, November 30, 2016 at 8:44:19 AM UTC-5, Desmond Walsh wrote:
>> > I managed to find one replacement brush after searching the entire
>> > Internet.
>>
>> Does that mean you have a Tor Browser? ;-)
>
>OK OK a little hyperbole on my part. But, I did scroll through the entire google results set - about 20 pages. Like dark matter, there is much more out there but sadly inaccessible to standard browsers
Did you try graingers?
https://www.grainger.com/category/replacement-parts/motors/ecatalog/N-9z5