On Apr 5, 9:20 am, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2007 05:28:24 -0700, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I have an outdoor project where the plan calls for 2"x8"x8' Redwood.
> >The final project will be painted.
>
> >My local lumber yard only had 1"x6" Redwood and I will try another
> >place this weekend.
>
> >If they don't have the Redwood, what should be my next alternative?
>
> >Thanks,
> >Dave
>
> Depends on what the project is. In most cases I personally would use
> pressure treated lumber. Others seem to think that this stuff is a
> plague from the devil. Other options include cypress, locust, western
> red ceder etc. all of which are rot resistant, which I assume is the
> reason for the redwood for something being painted.
It is just a mailbox post project. The main construction will be 3/4"
and 1/2" MDO that will be mounted on a PT 4x4 into the ground.
The Redwood is to be used for a curving brace between the vertical
post and the mailbox. It will also be used for the cap, a turned
finial, some mouldings, and some edge banding on the exposed plywood.
On Apr 5, 12:38 pm, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>
> If it's going to be painted anyway, why not just use poplar?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
I do have Poplar on hand, so that is an option. Looking online, I have
not found good things about Poplar when used for an exterior
application.
On 5 Apr 2007 08:36:47 -0700, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 5, 9:20 am, Dave Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 5 Apr 2007 05:28:24 -0700, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >I have an outdoor project where the plan calls for 2"x8"x8' Redwood.
>> >The final project will be painted.
>>
>> >My local lumber yard only had 1"x6" Redwood and I will try another
>> >place this weekend.
>>
>> >If they don't have the Redwood, what should be my next alternative?
>>
>> >Thanks,
>> >Dave
>>
>> Depends on what the project is. In most cases I personally would use
>> pressure treated lumber. Others seem to think that this stuff is a
>> plague from the devil. Other options include cypress, locust, western
>> red ceder etc. all of which are rot resistant, which I assume is the
>> reason for the redwood for something being painted.
>
>It is just a mailbox post project. The main construction will be 3/4"
>and 1/2" MDO that will be mounted on a PT 4x4 into the ground.
>
>The Redwood is to be used for a curving brace between the vertical
>post and the mailbox. It will also be used for the cap, a turned
>finial, some mouldings, and some edge banding on the exposed plywood.
Since none of the items mentioned are going to touch the ground or
tend to stay wet, the rot resistance is less important so I would give
serious consideration to standard 1x6 construction lumber (pine) or at
best standard 1x6 western red cedar. I certainly would not go for
anything higher level than that. The pine can be had anywhere. Western
red may require an actual lumber store instead of HD or Lowes.
Dave Hall
In article <[email protected]>, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
>It is just a mailbox post project. The main construction will be 3/4"
>and 1/2" MDO that will be mounted on a PT 4x4 into the ground.
>
>The Redwood is to be used for a curving brace between the vertical
>post and the mailbox. It will also be used for the cap, a turned
>finial, some mouldings, and some edge banding on the exposed plywood.
If it's going to be painted anyway, why not just use poplar?
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
In article <[email protected]>, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have an outdoor project where the plan calls for 2"x8"x8' Redwood.
>The final project will be painted.
>
>My local lumber yard only had 1"x6" Redwood and I will try another
>place this weekend.
>
>If they don't have the Redwood, what should be my next alternative?
Kinda hard to answer that without knowing what the project is... Other readily
available, naturally rot-resistant woods are cedar and cypress. Treated pine
also is rot-resistant, although prone to warp. Of course, if you're painting
it, you don't really need rot resistance, unless part of it is going in the
ground. What are you building?
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
In article <[email protected]>, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Apr 5, 12:38 pm, [email protected] (Doug Miller) wrote:
>>
>> If it's going to be painted anyway, why not just use poplar?
>I do have Poplar on hand, so that is an option. Looking online, I have
>not found good things about Poplar when used for an exterior
>application.
In the Midwest, it used to be widely used for exterior trim, back when they
were building houses out of real wood. As long as it's kept painted, it does
pretty well.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
"Leon" wrote in message
> How about Cedar. For many many years Cedar was used for exterior trim on
> new homes.
You're right ... and it still is. I used Western red cedar a few days ago to
trim out a garage door opening on a new home. Takes paint much nicer than PT
stuff (which in 1x "trim" these days looks more like pretzels than wood most
of the time), and will last longer, IME.
... or you can stain it to mimic a few different woods.
--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 2/20/07
Lew Hodgett <[email protected]> wrote in news:uhbRh.19830$tD2.10780
@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> Sounds almost like the NYW project Norm did a few years ago.
>
I did see that show back then and this is the idea that I am working from.
On 5 Apr 2007 05:28:24 -0700, "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote:
>I have an outdoor project where the plan calls for 2"x8"x8' Redwood.
>The final project will be painted.
>
>My local lumber yard only had 1"x6" Redwood and I will try another
>place this weekend.
>
>If they don't have the Redwood, what should be my next alternative?
>
>Thanks,
>Dave
Depends on what the project is. In most cases I personally would use
pressure treated lumber. Others seem to think that this stuff is a
plague from the devil. Other options include cypress, locust, western
red ceder etc. all of which are rot resistant, which I assume is the
reason for the redwood for something being painted.
Dave wrote:
> It is just a mailbox post project. The main construction will be 3/4"
> and 1/2" MDO that will be mounted on a PT 4x4 into the ground.
>
> The Redwood is to be used for a curving brace between the vertical
> post and the mailbox. It will also be used for the cap, a turned
> finial, some mouldings, and some edge banding on the exposed plywood.
Sounds almost like the NYW project Norm did a few years ago.
If you truly want redwood, use a couple of 1x6 pieces half lapped
together and glued with epoxy for the widest items.
Lew
"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I have an outdoor project where the plan calls for 2"x8"x8' Redwood.
> The final project will be painted.
>
> My local lumber yard only had 1"x6" Redwood and I will try another
> place this weekend.
>
> If they don't have the Redwood, what should be my next alternative?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
How about Cedar. For many many years Cedar was used for exterior trim on
new homes.