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[email protected] (tillius)

27/04/2004 5:39 PM

Source for Fiber Barrels

I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.

Thanks


This topic has 24 replies

Ba

B a r r y

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

28/04/2004 4:53 PM

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 07:46:02 -0500, Morris Dovey <[email protected]>
wrote:

>At worst, you should be able to have 'em give you a heads-up on
>the next drums going to the landfill...


Or ask at the landfill. <G>

My local transfer station is pretty good at noticing when certain
items are "delivered, and glad to help out a taxpayer. Deli and
restaurant gift certificates after a particularly heads-up find can
also help.


Barry

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

14/05/2004 9:36 PM

Morris Dovey wrote:
mucho snippage...

Yahbut, my system (MRT-5) will allow for the entire barrel
to be full before I need to empty it.

See link.

www.murphy-rodgers.com

UA100

dD

[email protected] (Darrell)

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

28/04/2004 10:14 AM

[email protected] (tillius) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
> dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
> things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
> I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.
>

You didnt say what size you were looking for but try these guys:
http://www.pennstateind.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PSI&Product_Code=CYFILCAN3&Category_Code=CYAC

http://www.dawginc.com/material-handling/fiber-drum-containers.asp

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

27/04/2004 6:50 PM

In article <[email protected]>, tillius
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
> dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
> things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
> I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.

Check printing plants... Resins for the bindery come in them.

djb

--
Formosa's Law: "The truly insane have enough on their plates without us adding
to it."

tt

[email protected] (tillius)

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

28/04/2004 4:34 PM

Thank you thank you thank you - I called the local Culligan man and
the guy went out to their 'old parts' yard, dug through the drums
until he found a clean one, in good shape (no holes, etc) and a lid
for it in great shape as well. Then he said, 'you can just have it, we
toss them out anyway'...


WOOOHOOO - plus, I asked him about the stack of pallettes he had in
good shape and he said help yourself anytime!

Tillius

"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<EqDjc.75$3I5.8483@attbi_s52>...
> Check out your local water softener dealer. He may have some used fiberglass
> salt barrels. They make killer dust collector bins. I've gotten several and
> I had to do was to clean them up a bit and plug a couple of small holes.
>
> Mike
>
> "tillius" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
> > dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
> > things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
> > I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.
> >
> > Thanks

UA

Unisaw A100

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

14/05/2004 9:25 AM

tillius wrote:
>> I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
>> dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
>> things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
>> I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.


I found some 30 gallon plastic (plastique David/Luigi)
barrels at the local car wash. They needed to have the tops
cut (tops don't just lift off) and they stink a bunch from
the soap/wax they contained (toned down a wee bit with a
washing of Castrol SuperClean) and I'll need to silly-cone
the rim but they are pretty heavy walled and look to be very
adequate for the task.

One other thing, they are white plastic and transparent
enough (semi-opaque) to maybe allow me to see when they need
dumping.

UA100

Gg

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

28/04/2004 8:31 AM

Hope you have better luck than I. Liabilities being what they are, drums
and useful stuff that used to be pilferable goes to the landfill.

Mine came with a fiber, but I'm using GI cans, because they have handles and
are fire-resistant.

"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> tillius wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
> > dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
> > things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
> > I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.
>
> Check car washes and hospitals...
>
> --
> Morris Dovey
> DeSoto, Iowa USA
>

Gg

"George"

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

28/04/2004 11:37 AM

I didn't say I couldn't circumvent procedure, I just said that it's no
longer easy, for the reasons stated.

Thanks for the offer to help, but my reasoning behind the galvanized is
still valid. I know they're fire-resistant, and I sometimes forget and
suck up wet shavings from the lathe. They're also of a size and weight I
can still handle at my advanced age.

As to drums of the POL variety, still have some connections in the local
aviation community.

"Morris Dovey" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George wrote:
>
> > Hope you have better luck than I. Liabilities being what they
> > are, drums and useful stuff that used to be pilferable goes to
> > the landfill.
>
> George...
>
> Sometimes it helps a lot to hunker/shmooze [depends what part of
> the country you're in]. Mine came from a county hospital and had
> been filled with x-ray stop bath (acetic acid solution, as in
> cider vinegar). It might help to offer to return the favor with a
> knick-knack shelf or some small shop-made gift.
>

GM

"Greg Millen"

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

15/05/2004 10:05 PM

hi bridger, I was wondering if you'd mind if I asked you to consider
shortening your email address. The reason is that when viewing the group in
Google, the email address pushes the topic in to a small area of the screen
and your addy rules the roost. It's not a big deal, just that you see a lot
less posts on a screen because the layout gets screwed up.
Below is an attempt to show what happens:

subject [email protected] date etc
subject
more
subject.

Normal subject with reasonable length [email protected]

Anyway, if you'd consider it I'd appreciate it,

thanks,

--
Greg

bR

[email protected] (Robert Bonomi)

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

16/05/2004 7:57 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:
>done.
>
>
*OOPS!*

'thanks.com' is a _real_ domain. Using somebody else's domain-name _without_
their permission, is a _bad_ idea.

The top-level domain '.invalid' is reserved expressly for this purpose.
Anything under it is guaranteed never to be a 'real' domain.

It also tells folks, immediately, that there's no point in trying to send
mail to that address.

May I suggest using something like "[email protected]" ?

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

14/05/2004 5:02 AM

Unisaw A100 wrote:

> tillius wrote:
>
>>> I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I
>>> can build my dust collector. Does anyone know where you
>>> might find one of these things? I called everywhere in my
>>> area and found zilch. The only ones I found online
>>> required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.
>
> I found some 30 gallon plastic (plastique David/Luigi) barrels
> at the local car wash. They needed to have the tops cut (tops
> don't just lift off) and they stink a bunch from the soap/wax
> they contained (toned down a wee bit with a washing of Castrol
> SuperClean) and I'll need to silly-cone the rim but they are
> pretty heavy walled and look to be very adequate for the task.
>
> One other thing, they are white plastic and transparent enough
> (semi-opaque) to maybe allow me to see when they need dumping.

Two suggestions...

Empty the barrels when you've collected 5 gal (more or less,
depending on your setup) to prevent pulling the dust through the
drums. I'd expected to collect a whole drum full of dust before
needing to dump 'em, but kept watch through my transparent
separator lids, and began to see dust passing right through the
first drum when it was about 1/5 to 1/4 filled.

If you cut the top out inside the rim, try it out without any
sealant between the rim and the separator lid. You may discover
(as I did) that the sealant isn't needed. AFAICT, the dust
collector pulls the lid down tight enough that additional sealing
isn't needed.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

28/04/2004 7:46 AM

George wrote:

> Hope you have better luck than I. Liabilities being what they
> are, drums and useful stuff that used to be pilferable goes to
> the landfill.

George...

Sometimes it helps a lot to hunker/shmooze [depends what part of
the country you're in]. Mine came from a county hospital and had
been filled with x-ray stop bath (acetic acid solution, as in
cider vinegar). It might help to offer to return the favor with a
knick-knack shelf or some small shop-made gift.

At worst, you should be able to have 'em give you a heads-up on
the next drums going to the landfill...

If you're not too far (I'm guessing WI) and still want drums, I
could put out the word locally - but you'd have to come pick 'em up.

There are drum recyclers in most sizable cities that will sell
cleaned-up or relined drums for $20-25. I would have had to drag
my trailer to Omaha (150 mi each way) - and elected to network
instead.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

MB

"Mike"

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

28/04/2004 1:04 AM

Check out your local water softener dealer. He may have some used fiberglass
salt barrels. They make killer dust collector bins. I've gotten several and
I had to do was to clean them up a bit and plug a couple of small holes.

Mike

"tillius" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
> dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
> things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
> I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.
>
> Thanks

MB

Michael Burton

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

13/05/2004 10:31 PM

tillius wrote in news:[email protected]:

> I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
> dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
> things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
> I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.
>
> Thanks

Try a large hardware store and look for bulk chain barrels. I get some
dandy's here locally. I am lucky enough have one in town that wholesales to
a large part of the smaller HW stores in the state of Texas. The warehouse
forman and I go to the same church, so it works pretty well.

--
Michael Burton
Thunderbird Hardwoods
Llano, TX

mhburton at moment dot net

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

27/04/2004 7:41 PM

tillius wrote:

> I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
> dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
> things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
> I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.

Check car washes and hospitals...

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA

b

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

15/05/2004 5:33 PM

done.



On Sat, 15 May 2004 22:05:05 GMT, "Greg Millen" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>hi bridger, I was wondering if you'd mind if I asked you to consider
>shortening your email address. The reason is that when viewing the group in
>Google, the email address pushes the topic in to a small area of the screen
>and your addy rules the roost. It's not a big deal, just that you see a lot
>less posts on a screen because the layout gets screwed up.
>Below is an attempt to show what happens:
>
>subject [email protected] date etc
>subject
>more
>subject.
>
>Normal subject with reasonable length [email protected]
>
>Anyway, if you'd consider it I'd appreciate it,
>
>thanks,

JC

"J. Clarke"

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

17/05/2004 6:30 AM

[email protected] wrote:

> On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:57:04 +0000, [email protected]
> (Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>,
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>done.
>>>
>>>
>>*OOPS!*
>>
>>'thanks.com' is a _real_ domain. Using somebody else's domain-name
>>_without_ their permission, is a _bad_ idea.
>>
>>The top-level domain '.invalid' is reserved expressly for this purpose.
>>Anything under it is guaranteed never to be a 'real' domain.
>>
>>It also tells folks, immediately, that there's no point in trying to send
>>mail to that address.
>>
>>May I suggest using something like "[email protected]" ?
>
>
>
> yeah, I went and checked. there's a placeholder there for thanks.com.
> I *really* doubt that there is a mail server recieving any mail at
> thanks.com addresses. maybe in a year or so I'll go look again. if it
> looks like there could actually be somebody at [email protected] I'll
> consider changing it. betcha it never happens, though.

Gee, what a nice guy you are.

<plonk>

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

b

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

15/05/2004 3:02 PM

On Fri, 14 May 2004 21:36:12 GMT, Unisaw A100 <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Morris Dovey wrote:
>mucho snippage...
>
>Yahbut, my system (MRT-5) will allow for the entire barrel
>to be full before I need to empty it.
>
>See link.
>
>www.murphy-rodgers.com
>
>UA100


looks like it'll keep pumping dust in there until the barrel *and* the
bag are full to the top. I bet that's interesting to empty.... <G>

GM

"Greg Millen"

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

16/05/2004 5:40 AM

Thank you!

--
Greg

<[email protected]> wrote in message ...
> done.

b

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

17/05/2004 1:48 AM

On Sun, 16 May 2004 19:57:04 +0000, [email protected]
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>done.
>>
>>
>*OOPS!*
>
>'thanks.com' is a _real_ domain. Using somebody else's domain-name _without_
>their permission, is a _bad_ idea.
>
>The top-level domain '.invalid' is reserved expressly for this purpose.
>Anything under it is guaranteed never to be a 'real' domain.
>
>It also tells folks, immediately, that there's no point in trying to send
>mail to that address.
>
>May I suggest using something like "[email protected]" ?



yeah, I went and checked. there's a placeholder there for thanks.com.
I *really* doubt that there is a mail server recieving any mail at
thanks.com addresses. maybe in a year or so I'll go look again. if it
looks like there could actually be somebody at [email protected] I'll
consider changing it. betcha it never happens, though.

EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

28/04/2004 3:04 AM


"tillius" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm looking for a source for fiber barrels or drums so I can build my
> dust collector. Does anyone know where you might find one of these
> things? I called everywhere in my area and found zilch. The only ones
> I found online required minimum orders of 2 and were $30-40 each.
>
> Thanks

Try a plastics molder. Most suppliers have gone to large containers and
super-sacks, but I still see some in drums. There are also used drum
dealers that may be able to help you. Check the Yellow Pages.
Ed

cC

[email protected] (Charlie Self)

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 28/04/2004 3:04 AM

28/04/2004 8:51 AM

Ed Pawlowski writes:

>Try a plastics molder. Most suppliers have gone to large containers and
>super-sacks, but I still see some in drums. There are also used drum
>dealers that may be able to help you. Check the Yellow Pages.

Good idea. A friend of mine used to be able to get them from a soft drink
bottler, too. Their syrups--I guess--come in large plastic drums, which make
fantastic trash barrels, indoors and out.

Charlie Self
"Wars spring from unseen and generally insignificant causes, the first outbreak
being often but an explosion of anger." Thucydides

SK

Steve Knight

in reply to "Edwin Pawlowski" on 28/04/2004 3:04 AM

28/04/2004 3:16 PM

I have used plastic barrels and metal garbage cans. right now I use a plastic
garbage can it works fine and it has handles to lift it with.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

MD

Morris Dovey

in reply to [email protected] (tillius) on 27/04/2004 5:39 PM

28/04/2004 4:55 PM

B a r r y wrote:

> Deli and restaurant gift certificates after a particularly
> heads-up find can also help.

Barry...

That's a great idea!

Once got some unauthorized forklift help from a really sweet gal
at a client site - and got raked over the coals by the client
security manager for violating the company's union agreement (no
personal service allowed!) - I made sure the driver got a thank
you note and that the receiving department got a whole bakery
tray of sticky rolls next morning (I don't think I'll lack for
forklift help in /that/ plant - ever.)

Bottom line: people like to help when they can; and like to be
thanked when they do. (Imagine that!)

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto, Iowa USA


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