See the subject line, I know this thread has come up at times in the
wreck, but I still can't find any plans.
This started off as a bit of a black joke at a recent funeral, but has
become a little more serious in the last few days.
I understand there's a book on it, but in the best interests of my
Scots ancestry; I'm looking for a freebie.
I know it won't be hard to dream one up (sort of a box about 6 ft
long) but maybe plans will have a few handy tips and ideas with them.
I also favour plywood, so any ideas on what thickness would work? I
think 1/2".
TIA
Barry
You are one hell of a cheap Scot (Written by William Wallace so I have
a right). 1/2" ply? I can just see the solemn pall bearers moving up
the steps of the church and the bottom falling out of the darn 1/2"
CDX box and the poor deceased taking a big bounce on the way back down
the steps
Sorry for the dark humor. I hope no one near is headed to the great
beyond but life is just a little to short to be too sad in the face of
all we face.
Lang may your lum reek
BW
On Jun 22, 4:02 pm, Barry Lennox <[email protected]> wrote:
> See the subject line, I know this thread has come up at times in the
> wreck, but I still can't find any plans.
>
> This started off as a bit of a black joke at a recent funeral, but has
> become a little more serious in the last few days.
>
> I understand there's a book on it, but in the best interests of my
> Scots ancestry; I'm looking for a freebie.
>
> I know it won't be hard to dream one up (sort of a box about 6 ft
> long) but maybe plans will have a few handy tips and ideas with them.
> I also favour plywood, so any ideas on what thickness would work? I
> think 1/2".
>
> TIA
>
> Barry
http://wayneofthewoods.com/coffin%202.html
http://www.shallowvalley.com/pincherplans.html
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Nebula/6037/coffin.htm
On Jun 22, 4:02 pm, Barry Lennox <[email protected]> wrote:
> See the subject line, I know this thread has come up at times in the
> wreck, but I still can't find any plans.
>
> This started off as a bit of a black joke at a recent funeral, but has
> become a little more serious in the last few days.
>
> I understand there's a book on it, but in the best interests of my
> Scots ancestry; I'm looking for a freebie.
>
> I know it won't be hard to dream one up (sort of a box about 6 ft
> long) but maybe plans will have a few handy tips and ideas with them.
> I also favour plywood, so any ideas on what thickness would work? I
> think 1/2".
>
> TIA
>
> Barry
On Jun 22, 7:11 pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
> You are one hell of a cheap Scot (Written by William >Wallace so I have a right). 1/2" ply? I can just see the >solemn pall bearers moving up the steps of the church >and the bottom falling out of the darn 1/2"
> CDX box and the poor deceased taking a big bounce >on the way back down the steps
>
> Sorry for the dark humor.
Well, I thought it was pretty damn funny. I have been to two funerals
in the last 9 months of "family" members. A little levity on the
subject is well appreciated.
I am now wondering if Barry thought of using OSB. That 7/16" is a lot
stronger than many think... ;^)
Robert
On Jun 22, 9:34 pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hell, I've instructed my best friend who has been >designated my executor and sole beneficiary, to have >the cheapest funeral he can buy, or if possible
> not to have one at all. He's to take some money I've put >aside and take any friends of mine out, feed them dinner >and get them drunk. Damned if I'm going to have what >used to be my money wasted just to get me into the
> ground. Cremation and no church service, that's what I >want.
AMEN! I'm right there with you on that one. The two funerals I went
to required no plots as both were highly decorated vets.
However, the funeral services for each ran between $14,000 and
$16,000. They weren't that fancy, but all the different things they
do now cost a mint. As for me, I had absolutely no idea you paid for
your obituary these days as an "add on". In fact, there is nothing to
do with the funeral that isn't an add on.
Robert
Barry Lennox wrote:
> I'm even toying with the idea of donating my body to "medical science"
> A medical university throws you into a big tank of preservative and
> students use bits for anatomy practice. That is ZERO cost, but I might
> strike some problems from family.
>
I, personally, know of a guy who went that route. When the time came,
his family couldn't afford to ship his body to the university and the
university wouldn't come & get it. I learned of his death and the plight
of the family too late to be of any assistance.
He's now at the Detroit Science Center as part of a traveling anatomical
exhibition.
Not my cup of tea.
I want a cheapo box, cremation, storage for one year then dug into the
root zone in my garden on the anniversary of the cremation.
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Sat, Jun 23, 2007, 11:02am (EDT+16) [email protected]
(Barry=A0Lennox) doth sayeth:
See the subject line, I know this thread has come up at times in the
wreck, but I still can't find any plans.
Indeed it has. And I've posted several plans myself. Are you sure
it's cofin plans you want? Or casket plans? A quick google should turn
up plans. How It's Made has a great segment on making a caske. It's
really simple and quick, it only takes about 5 minuts on te how.
JOAT
If a man does his best, what else is there?
- General George S. Patton
<[email protected]> wrote in message
> > Sorry for the dark humor.
>
> Well, I thought it was pretty damn funny. I have been to two funerals
> in the last 9 months of "family" members. A little levity on the
> subject is well appreciated.
Hell, I've instructed my best friend who has been designated my executor and
sole beneficiary, to have the cheapest funeral he can buy, or if possible
not to have one at all. He's to take some money I've put aside and take any
friends of mine out, feed them dinner and get them drunk. Damned if I'm
going to have what used to be my money wasted just to get me into the
ground. Cremation and no church service, that's what I want.
Fri, Jun 22, 2007, 9:34pm (EDT-1) [email protected] (Upscale) doth
sayeth:
Hell, I've instructed my best friend who has been designated my executor
and sole beneficiary, to have the cheapest funeral he can buy, or if
possible not to have one at all. <snip>
I've told my family I want to be cremated when it gets to that
stage. Supposedly my veteran's benefits will cover all the cost.
That'll leave a lot more for them. My mother now, she has probably
everything pre-paid that can be pre-paid.
JOAT
If a man does his best, what else is there?
- General George S. Patton
Rockler has plans - I guess they want to cover all possible
bases :-)
http://www.rockler.com/search_results.cfm?filter=coffin
mikey
"Barry Lennox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> See the subject line, I know this thread has come up at times in the
> wreck, but I still can't find any plans.
>
> This started off as a bit of a black joke at a recent funeral, but has
> become a little more serious in the last few days.
>
> I understand there's a book on it, but in the best interests of my
> Scots ancestry; I'm looking for a freebie.
>
> I know it won't be hard to dream one up (sort of a box about 6 ft
> long) but maybe plans will have a few handy tips and ideas with them.
> I also favour plywood, so any ideas on what thickness would work? I
> think 1/2".
>
> TIA
>
> Barry
"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Is there a genealogist in your family? Those of us who think highly
> of our ancestors (if it weren't for them, I wouldn't be here ;-)
> really appreaciate those long-winded obits. They often give married
> names of sisters and aunts that would otherwise be difficult to trace.
>
> John
>
Why so difficult? If someone can put it together for a $300 obituary, that
same relative can do it now for free or maybe a lunch. That is my point of
going for cheap. If you really give a damn about me, lets have a beer
later, not after I'm dead.
"overkill" he says for coffins !! What a great straight line :-)
If you really want to go cheap, cremation, load the ashes into
the shop vac on blow and poof - you're out of here !!
mikey
"Barry Lennox" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:02:17 +1200, Barry Lennox
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>See the subject line, I know this thread has come up at times in the
>>wreck, but I still can't find any plans.
>
> snip .
>
>
> Many thanks for all the replies, I now have a couple of good plans, It
> looks like they all use 3/4 or 4/4 ply. Seems overkill to me, I put
> some 1/2 ply on a couple of 4x2s and bounced on it, it didn't break.
> This is all done in the name of economy.
>
> I'm not going to give these funeral vultures a penny more than
> necessary. Cremation, DIY coffin, free orbit, NO flowers.
>
> I'm even toying with the idea of donating my body to "medical science"
> A medical university throws you into a big tank of preservative and
> students use bits for anatomy practice. That is ZERO cost, but I might
> strike some problems from family.
>
> This is not an urgent problem, just thinking ahead 30-40-50 ?? years.
> So many projects, so little time!
"[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> On Jun 22, 7:11 pm, "SonomaProducts.com" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You are one hell of a cheap Scot (Written by William >Wallace so I
>> have a right). 1/2" ply? I can just see the >solemn pall bearers
>> moving up the steps of the church >and the bottom falling out of the
>> darn 1/2" CDX box and the poor deceased taking a big bounce >on the
>> way back down the steps
>>
>> Sorry for the dark humor.
>
> Well, I thought it was pretty damn funny. I have been to two funerals
> in the last 9 months of "family" members. A little levity on the
> subject is well appreciated.
>
> I am now wondering if Barry thought of using OSB. That 7/16" is a lot
> stronger than many think... ;^)
>
> Robert
>
My mother wanted 'cheap as possible', but I couldn't deal with the notion
of a cardboard tray for the cremation. So, 3/4" maple cabinet ply, with 8
or 10 coats of hand rubbed shellac, on a box that lasted maybe 6 days from
the start of the process.
It's just what she would have wanted. And building it was exactly what I
needed to be doing then.
My dad wants one just like it, just not terribly soon.
Patriarch,
who knows there are a lot of ways to deal with the passage out of this
life...
dpb <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
> Patriarch wrote:
> ...
>> Patriarch,
>> who knows there are a lot of ways to deal with the passage out of this
>> life...
>
> I think some of the really exotic caskets in the South Sea islands and
> other places are really pretty cool...
>
> FWW had an article some time back --
>
> --
>
I missed the FWW article, I guess. There's about a 12 year hole in my
collection, in the early color era.
You're not talking about the boat they build, set the body on it, and set
it afloat, afire, down the river, are you? That's a bit non-standard, even
for most Californians. ;-)
Patriarch
"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Jun 22, 9:34 pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
> ...
>
>> ... I had absolutely no idea you paid for
>> your obituary these days as an "add on". ...
>
> Where I am familiar w/ "local practice", obituaries up to a certain length
> for area residents are printed gratis in the local papers. I don't recall
> the precise word length, but you can get a decent obit published free.
> Longer or more elaborate ones or those from out of town are paid.
Some have the longer "obits" that you pay for and "death notices" that are
free. I'm opting for the free one. What more is there to say besides "Joe
Blough died"? Anyone that cares probably already knows and knows about my
life . Why spend money to tell the rest? Don't send flowers either; I
won't be able to see them. If you rally want me to have flowers, send them
now and I can even thank you for them.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Jun 22, 9:34 pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
...
> ... I had absolutely no idea you paid for
> your obituary these days as an "add on". ...
Where I am familiar w/ "local practice", obituaries up to a certain
length for area residents are printed gratis in the local papers. I
don't recall the precise word length, but you can get a decent obit
published free. Longer or more elaborate ones or those from out of town
are paid.
--
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Jun 22, 9:34 pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>> ...
>>
>>> ... I had absolutely no idea you paid for
>>> your obituary these days as an "add on". ...
>> Where I am familiar w/ "local practice", obituaries up to a certain length
>> for area residents are printed gratis in the local papers. I don't recall
>> the precise word length, but you can get a decent obit published free.
>> Longer or more elaborate ones or those from out of town are paid.
>
> Some have the longer "obits" that you pay for and "death notices" that are
> free. I'm opting for the free one. What more is there to say besides "Joe
> Blough died"? Anyone that cares probably already knows and knows about my
> life . Why spend money to tell the rest? Don't send flowers either; I
> won't be able to see them. If you rally want me to have flowers, send them
> now and I can even thank you for them.
That's also a practice -- that was common in TN iirc.
You're certainly free to opt for whatever you want... :)
The obituary is an interesting thing -- superficially your analysis is
"spot on". But, depending on circumstances, it can be much more than
one realizes. Certainly far too complex a subject to digress into, but
one often never knows how others react or are affected by their direct
or indirect knowledge of another.
As others long before me have observed, funerals aren't for the dead,
they're for those who remain after...
--
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:34:52 -0500, "Upscale" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Hell, I've instructed my best friend who has been designated my executor and
>sole beneficiary, to have the cheapest funeral he can buy, or if possible
>not to have one at all. He's to take some money I've put aside and take any
>friends of mine out, feed them dinner and get them drunk. Damned if I'm
>going to have what used to be my money wasted just to get me into the
>ground. Cremation and no church service, that's what I want.
Same here. I don't want a funeral, period. I want to be dumped in a
ditch or shoved overboard and eaten by fishes or whatever. Stuff me
and use me as a coat rack, what do I care, I'm dead. I don't want to
be pumped full of chemicals and put on display, just get rid of my
body and get on with your lives already.
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 02:51:23 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"John" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Is there a genealogist in your family? Those of us who think highly
>> of our ancestors (if it weren't for them, I wouldn't be here ;-)
>> really appreaciate those long-winded obits. They often give married
>> names of sisters and aunts that would otherwise be difficult to trace.
>>
>> John
>>
>
>Why so difficult? If someone can put it together for a $300 obituary, that
>same relative can do it now for free or maybe a lunch. That is my point of
>going for cheap. If you really give a damn about me, lets have a beer
>later, not after I'm dead.
>
I would like nothing better than a 2 hour lunch with my grandparents,
all of whom have been dead for more than 30 years.
Little things -
When did my mother and I live with you?
When did we live in the house on Rayner?
What do you know about my father's death?
That not being available, I'll take some verbose obits and family
letters instead.
John
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:42:17 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>"dpb" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Jun 22, 9:34 pm, "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>> ...
>>
>>> ... I had absolutely no idea you paid for
>>> your obituary these days as an "add on". ...
>>
>> Where I am familiar w/ "local practice", obituaries up to a certain length
>> for area residents are printed gratis in the local papers. I don't recall
>> the precise word length, but you can get a decent obit published free.
>> Longer or more elaborate ones or those from out of town are paid.
>
>Some have the longer "obits" that you pay for and "death notices" that are
>free. I'm opting for the free one. What more is there to say besides "Joe
>Blough died"? Anyone that cares probably already knows and knows about my
>life . Why spend money to tell the rest? Don't send flowers either; I
>won't be able to see them. If you rally want me to have flowers, send them
>now and I can even thank you for them.
>
Is there a genealogist in your family? Those of us who think highly
of our ancestors (if it weren't for them, I wouldn't be here ;-)
really appreaciate those long-winded obits. They often give married
names of sisters and aunts that would otherwise be difficult to trace.
John
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:02:17 +1200, Barry Lennox
<[email protected]> wrote:
>See the subject line, I know this thread has come up at times in the
>wreck, but I still can't find any plans.
snip .
Many thanks for all the replies, I now have a couple of good plans, It
looks like they all use 3/4 or 4/4 ply. Seems overkill to me, I put
some 1/2 ply on a couple of 4x2s and bounced on it, it didn't break.
This is all done in the name of economy.
I'm not going to give these funeral vultures a penny more than
necessary. Cremation, DIY coffin, free orbit, NO flowers.
I'm even toying with the idea of donating my body to "medical science"
A medical university throws you into a big tank of preservative and
students use bits for anatomy practice. That is ZERO cost, but I might
strike some problems from family.
This is not an urgent problem, just thinking ahead 30-40-50 ?? years.
So many projects, so little time!