On Jun 22, 9:32 pm, spaco <[email protected]> wrote:
> It was chloroform, not ether that we welded Plexiglass with.
When I worked in an architectural model shop, we used acetone.
Probably a lot easier to get than either ether or chloroform.
R
On Jun 23, 10:17 am, [email protected] (Peter Ashby) wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Most everything is dangerous. Having the MSDS sheet does not make it less
> > so.
>
> Exactly, an MSDS functions largely to indemnify the
> manufacturer/supplier/employer.
Have you ever read the disclaimers at the end of an MSDS? It
basically says, we believe this information to be true, but we are in
no way responsible for anyone relying on the information contained
herein. Comforting, no?
Maybe I'll revise my contract...
Price not to exceed $XXXXX, unless I feel like increasing the amount
without providing an explanation.
R
On Jun 23, 11:06 am, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> news:[email protected]...
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> >MEK is dangerous,
>
> So's my Harley. Life's that way sometimes.
Now I know why your replies are always so short, CW... you're out of
breath from pushing that Harley!
<it's joke, dammit>
On Jun 24, 11:41 am, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
<mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote:
> asmurff wrote:
> > Don't ether and chloroform both put you to sleep?
> >> It was chloroform, not ether that we welded Plexiglass with.
>
> Hell, yes. That stuff is dangerous!
>
> --
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> mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com
What ? Sleep ? :P
Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote
>
> > MEK is dangerous, VENTILATION and the MSDS are needed.
>
> Most everything is dangerous. Having the MSDS sheet does not make it less
> so.
Exactly, an MSDS functions largely to indemnify the
manufacturer/supplier/employer. In science you get problems with jumping
through ridiculous hoops when handling miniscule quantities of things
once in a blue moon yet you have to work as though you are pouring 44
gallon drums of it around 24/7. Of course half the problem is these
things often get enforced by administrators who do not have the
requisite understanding.
/rant over. ;-)
Peter
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RicodJour <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 23, 10:17 am, [email protected] (Peter Ashby) wrote:
> > Edwin Pawlowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Most everything is dangerous. Having the MSDS sheet does not make it
> > > less so.
> >
> > Exactly, an MSDS functions largely to indemnify the
> > manufacturer/supplier/employer.
>
> Have you ever read the disclaimers at the end of an MSDS? It
> basically says, we believe this information to be true, but we are in
> no way responsible for anyone relying on the information contained
> herein. Comforting, no?
Ah that's just legal futureproofing. Means their legal eagle's family
got to eat. Awww.
Peter
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:36:16 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Most everything is dangerous. Having the MSDS sheet does not make it less
>so.
>
I duct tape my MSDS sheets over my face. The sheet protects my eyes
and my lungs. One time, I fell down the stairs, 'cause the sheet was
over my eyes.
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Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>> MEK is dangerous, VENTILATION and the MSDS are needed.
>
> Most everything is dangerous. Having the MSDS sheet does not make it less
> so.
Isn't that the truth? We had good ventilation but no MSDS sheet. Should I go
break those welds apart now because I did it wrong?
OTOH, MEK sure worked well.
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The solvent is MEK which you can get at Home Depot or Lowes or any other
good hardware store.
"spaco" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It was chloroform, not ether that we welded Plexiglass with.
>
> Pete Stanaitis
> ---------------------
"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>MEK is dangerous,
So's my Harley. Life's that way sometimes.
"B A R R Y" wrote in message
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:36:16 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
> wrote:
>
> >Most everything is dangerous. Having the MSDS sheet does not make it
less
> >so.
> >
>
> I duct tape my MSDS sheets over my face. The sheet protects my eyes
> and my lungs. One time, I fell down the stairs, 'cause the sheet was
> over my eyes.
No damn wonder, cher ... you've been applying them to the wrong end!
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> "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>MEK is dangerous,
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>
> So's my Harley. Life's that way sometimes.
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> It was chloroform, not ether that we welded Plexiglass with.
We did it with methyl ethyl ketone (MEK).
Aren't all those things kinda dangerous around a welding torch?
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Look up W0600! <G>
<http://www.chem.tamu.edu/class/majors/msdsfiles/msdswater.htm>
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> And my airplane...
Yeah, I can only crash in two directions. You can do it in three. :)
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>On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:57:53 GMT, B A R R Y <[email protected]>
>
>>I duct tape my MSDS sheets over my face. The sheet protects my eyes
>>and my lungs. One time, I fell down the stairs, 'cause the sheet was
>>over my eyes.
>>
>
>I ordered two endmills and both come with msds sheets. hard to eat or
>breathe carbide endmills (G)
Yeah, at work, I order a lot of hardware and expendable supplies from MSC.
about a year ago they started sending MSDS with drill bits of all things.
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:57:53 GMT, B A R R Y <[email protected]>
>I duct tape my MSDS sheets over my face. The sheet protects my eyes
>and my lungs. One time, I fell down the stairs, 'cause the sheet was
>over my eyes.
>
I ordered two endmills and both come with msds sheets. hard to eat or
breathe carbide endmills (G)
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:06:23 GMT, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>
>>MEK is dangerous,
>
>
>So's my Harley.
And my airplane...
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"Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote
> MEK is dangerous, VENTILATION and the MSDS are needed.
Most everything is dangerous. Having the MSDS sheet does not make it less
so.
Dropped it today. Life sucks sometimes.
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Jun 23, 11:06 am, "CW" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > >MEK is dangerous,
> >
> > So's my Harley. Life's that way sometimes.
>
> Now I know why your replies are always so short, CW... you're out of
> breath from pushing that Harley!
>
> <it's joke, dammit>
>
Don't ether and chloroform both put you to sleep?
--
Watch for the bounce.
If ya didn't see it, ya didn't feel it.
If ya see it, it didn't go off.
Old Air Force Munitions Saying
"spaco" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It was chloroform, not ether that we welded Plexiglass with.
>
> Pete Stanaitis
> ---------------------
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> "Rick Samuel" <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>> MEK is dangerous, VENTILATION and the MSDS are needed.
>> Most everything is dangerous. Having the MSDS sheet does not make it less
>> so.
>
>
> Isn't that the truth? We had good ventilation but no MSDS sheet. Should I go
> break those welds apart now because I did it wrong?
Only if OSHA should learn of your misdeed <g>