dd

"dadiOH"

10/03/2015 4:15 PM

annoyances

For some months I have been doing boring stuff like framing, drywall,
painting, etc. Tile too. Tons of tile. Tile by the 1000s.

I have finished all that and am ready to begin some more interesting
projects, all of which involve African mahogany contrasted with black. I
have made all my SketchUp drawings, done the take offs, run those through
Cutlist+ so I know how much of what stock I need and to what sizes the stock
must be cut.

Mostly, the black was meant to be 3/4 black melamine. Now, I don't much
like melamine board but it has advantages; namely. it doesn't need finishing
and it is (should be) inexpensive. I won't have to worry about taping most
edges as they will be hidden.

Now, here is the annoyance: Lowes doesn't carry it and won't/can't get
black; all they have is 3/4" white at about $40 per 4'x8' sheet. All HD
carries is 5/8 white mel board (about $35) but they can get black for
$90/sheet. I'll fry in hell before I pay $90. A local cabinet supply place
has it for $60. I didn't ask the price for white but I bought 25-30 sheets
from them a few years back for $700. More now, I am sure, but I bet its not
$60.

What is the deal about black mel board?? If I lived in the upper midwest I
could walk into a Menards and buy white OR black @ $29.97. Actually, I
could buy any of the 12-15 colors it is made in from them (they might have
to special order those).

I tell you, it is not easy living in the hinterlands of central Florida
where "good" wood is #1 common instead of #2.

I don't expect any resolution from you, just venting...

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LH

"Lew Hodgett"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

10/03/2015 3:06 PM


"dadiOH" wrote:

> What is the deal about black mel board?? If I lived in the upper
> midwest I could walk into a Menards and buy white OR black @ $29.97.
> Actually, I could buy any of the 12-15 colors it is made in from
> them (they might have to special order those).
--------------------------------------------------
How many sheets are you willing to buy?

When I was building the boat, negotiated directly with the sheet goods
wholesalers.

Would buy a standard unit (70 shts) of 4 ply CDX (Approx 40+
lbs/sheet).

Got it delivered by their 18 wheeler with a rear lift gate.

Since a unit was almost 3,000 lbs, having access to my landlord's
towmotor to position unit for easy sheet access didn't hurt<G>.

Lew

k

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

12/03/2015 8:03 PM

On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 12:03:17 -0400, [email protected] wrote:

>On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:26:39 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> At least its good to know I am not alone. I really don't get it
>>> though, I used to see stacks of it at HD. Maybe almond too.
>>
>>There used to be lots of good stuff at Home Depot that
>>has since been replaced with vacuum cleaners, detergent,
>>and windshield wiper blades.
>>
>>John
>>
>>(who thinks Home Depot is trying to compete with Walmart)
> Next thing they'll be adding food aisles too!!!!

They already have the pharmacy. ;-)

http://www.homedepot.com/p/d-CON-12-oz-Rat-and-Mouse-Killer-Ready-Mixed-Baitbits-12-Pack-002028/100670331

AKA Coumadin or Warfarin.

c

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

12/03/2015 12:03 PM

On Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:26:39 +0000 (UTC), John McCoy
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> At least its good to know I am not alone. I really don't get it
>> though, I used to see stacks of it at HD. Maybe almond too.
>
>There used to be lots of good stuff at Home Depot that
>has since been replaced with vacuum cleaners, detergent,
>and windshield wiper blades.
>
>John
>
>(who thinks Home Depot is trying to compete with Walmart)
Next thing they'll be adding food aisles too!!!!

JM

John McCoy

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

10/03/2015 9:26 PM

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> I tell you, it is not easy living in the hinterlands of central
> Florida where "good" wood is #1 common instead of #2.
>
> I don't expect any resolution from you, just venting...

It's worse in south Fla.

Anyway, if Dixie Plywood isn't too far from you, you might
try giving them a call.

There also used to be a place in Jax, Florida Southern
Plywood or something like that, that had a wide variety
of sheet goods.

John

JM

John McCoy

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

12/03/2015 2:26 PM

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> At least its good to know I am not alone. I really don't get it
> though, I used to see stacks of it at HD. Maybe almond too.

There used to be lots of good stuff at Home Depot that
has since been replaced with vacuum cleaners, detergent,
and windshield wiper blades.

John

(who thinks Home Depot is trying to compete with Walmart)

JM

John McCoy

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

13/03/2015 12:12 AM

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Update: I went to Lakeland to buy some lumber this AM (170 bd.ft. of
> poplar)

Where you gets your poplar in Lakeland? How much? Might
be worth taking a detour next time I go upstate...

John

JM

John McCoy

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

13/03/2015 4:29 PM

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Here
> http://www.hardwoodlumberandmillwork.com/
>
> It isn't really a lumber yard, mostly a guy that does custom wood and
> mill work that also stocks reasonable quantities of a fair number of
> species.
>
> I paid $2.73 including 7% tax for the poplar. Could have got it from
> NC for $1.80, would have saved some even with shipping but I prefer to
> pick what I buy if I can.

Thanks! $2.73 doesn't sound bad, allowing for shipping and
a fair profit to the seller. Certainly a better price than
anywhere I know in S Fla.

John

Ll

Leon

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

11/03/2015 9:41 AM

On 3/10/2015 3:15 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> For some months I have been doing boring stuff like framing, drywall,
> painting, etc. Tile too. Tons of tile. Tile by the 1000s.
>
> I have finished all that and am ready to begin some more interesting
> projects, all of which involve African mahogany contrasted with black. I
> have made all my SketchUp drawings, done the take offs, run those through
> Cutlist+ so I know how much of what stock I need and to what sizes the stock
> must be cut.
>
> Mostly, the black was meant to be 3/4 black melamine. Now, I don't much
> like melamine board but it has advantages; namely. it doesn't need finishing
> and it is (should be) inexpensive. I won't have to worry about taping most
> edges as they will be hidden.
>
> Now, here is the annoyance: Lowes doesn't carry it and won't/can't get
> black; all they have is 3/4" white at about $40 per 4'x8' sheet. All HD
> carries is 5/8 white mel board (about $35) but they can get black for
> $90/sheet. I'll fry in hell before I pay $90. A local cabinet supply place
> has it for $60. I didn't ask the price for white but I bought 25-30 sheets
> from them a few years back for $700. More now, I am sure, but I bet its not
> $60.
>
> What is the deal about black mel board?? If I lived in the upper midwest I
> could walk into a Menards and buy white OR black @ $29.97. Actually, I
> could buy any of the 12-15 colors it is made in from them (they might have
> to special order those).
>
> I tell you, it is not easy living in the hinterlands of central Florida
> where "good" wood is #1 common instead of #2.
>
> I don't expect any resolution from you, just venting...
>
I visited using the same material for a desk project 2 years ago. Black
in 3/4 was simply not available from any of my known suppliers in the
Houston area. I opted for Cherry.

c

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

11/03/2015 8:26 PM

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 17:00:56 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Leon wrote:
>> On 3/10/2015 3:15 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>>> For some months I have been doing boring stuff like framing, drywall,
>>> painting, etc. Tile too. Tons of tile. Tile by the 1000s.
>>>
>>> I have finished all that and am ready to begin some more interesting
>>> projects, all of which involve African mahogany contrasted with
>>> black. I have made all my SketchUp drawings, done the take offs,
>>> run those through Cutlist+ so I know how much of what stock I need
>>> and to what sizes the stock must be cut.
>>>
>>> Mostly, the black was meant to be 3/4 black melamine. Now, I don't
>>> much like melamine board but it has advantages; namely. it doesn't
>>> need finishing and it is (should be) inexpensive. I won't have to
>>> worry about taping most edges as they will be hidden.
>>>
>>> Now, here is the annoyance: Lowes doesn't carry it and won't/can't
>>> get black; all they have is 3/4" white at about $40 per 4'x8' sheet.
>>> All HD carries is 5/8 white mel board (about $35) but they can get
>>> black for $90/sheet. I'll fry in hell before I pay $90. A local
>>> cabinet supply place has it for $60. I didn't ask the price for
>>> white but I bought 25-30 sheets from them a few years back for $700.
>>> More now, I am sure, but I bet its not $60.
>>>
>>> What is the deal about black mel board?? If I lived in the upper
>>> midwest I could walk into a Menards and buy white OR black @ $29.97.
>>> Actually, I could buy any of the 12-15 colors it is made in from
>>> them (they might have to special order those).
>>>
>>> I tell you, it is not easy living in the hinterlands of central
>>> Florida where "good" wood is #1 common instead of #2.
>>>
>>> I don't expect any resolution from you, just venting...
>>>
>> I visited using the same material for a desk project 2 years ago. Black in
>> 3/4 was simply not available from any of my known suppliers in the
>> Houston area. I opted for Cherry.
>
>At least its good to know I am not alone. I really don't get it though, I
>used to see stacks of it at HD. Maybe almond too.
I remember lots of white, black, birch, cherry, and almond melamine
board - generally on sawdust core. Recently I've seen white "shelf
board" with wheat straw core.

I do know of a cabinet manufacturer that generally has both the
sawdust core and MDF available in several colours, where I have
purchased materials when required.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

11/03/2015 5:00 PM

Leon wrote:
> On 3/10/2015 3:15 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>> For some months I have been doing boring stuff like framing, drywall,
>> painting, etc. Tile too. Tons of tile. Tile by the 1000s.
>>
>> I have finished all that and am ready to begin some more interesting
>> projects, all of which involve African mahogany contrasted with
>> black. I have made all my SketchUp drawings, done the take offs,
>> run those through Cutlist+ so I know how much of what stock I need
>> and to what sizes the stock must be cut.
>>
>> Mostly, the black was meant to be 3/4 black melamine. Now, I don't
>> much like melamine board but it has advantages; namely. it doesn't
>> need finishing and it is (should be) inexpensive. I won't have to
>> worry about taping most edges as they will be hidden.
>>
>> Now, here is the annoyance: Lowes doesn't carry it and won't/can't
>> get black; all they have is 3/4" white at about $40 per 4'x8' sheet.
>> All HD carries is 5/8 white mel board (about $35) but they can get
>> black for $90/sheet. I'll fry in hell before I pay $90. A local
>> cabinet supply place has it for $60. I didn't ask the price for
>> white but I bought 25-30 sheets from them a few years back for $700.
>> More now, I am sure, but I bet its not $60.
>>
>> What is the deal about black mel board?? If I lived in the upper
>> midwest I could walk into a Menards and buy white OR black @ $29.97.
>> Actually, I could buy any of the 12-15 colors it is made in from
>> them (they might have to special order those).
>>
>> I tell you, it is not easy living in the hinterlands of central
>> Florida where "good" wood is #1 common instead of #2.
>>
>> I don't expect any resolution from you, just venting...
>>
> I visited using the same material for a desk project 2 years ago. Black in
> 3/4 was simply not available from any of my known suppliers in the
> Houston area. I opted for Cherry.

At least its good to know I am not alone. I really don't get it though, I
used to see stacks of it at HD. Maybe almond too.


--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
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dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

12/03/2015 2:52 PM

dadiOH wrote:
> For some months I have been doing boring stuff like framing, drywall,
> painting, etc. Tile too. Tons of tile. Tile by the 1000s.
>
> I have finished all that and am ready to begin some more interesting
> projects, all of which involve African mahogany contrasted with
> black. I have made all my SketchUp drawings, done the take offs, run
> those through Cutlist+ so I know how much of what stock I need and to
> what sizes the stock must be cut.
>
> Mostly, the black was meant to be 3/4 black melamine. Now, I don't
> much like melamine board but it has advantages; namely. it doesn't
> need finishing and it is (should be) inexpensive. I won't have to
> worry about taping most edges as they will be hidden.
>
> Now, here is the annoyance: Lowes doesn't carry it and won't/can't
> get black; all they have is 3/4" white at about $40 per 4'x8' sheet. All
> HD carries is 5/8 white mel board (about $35) but they can get
> black for $90/sheet. I'll fry in hell before I pay $90. A local
> cabinet supply place has it for $60. I didn't ask the price for
> white but I bought 25-30 sheets from them a few years back for $700. More
> now, I am sure, but I bet its not $60.

Update: I went to Lakeland to buy some lumber this AM (170 bd.ft. of poplar)
and stopped by the cabinet supply shop mentioned above "just to check" on
the way (I had phoned the first time). They can get black melamine in a day
or two, same price as the white, $37 + tax. Works for me, I'm happy again.


--

dadiOH
____________________________

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dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "dadiOH" on 10/03/2015 4:15 PM

13/03/2015 8:00 AM

John McCoy wrote:
> "dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> Update: I went to Lakeland to buy some lumber this AM (170 bd.ft. of
>> poplar)
>
> Where you gets your poplar in Lakeland? How much? Might
> be worth taking a detour next time I go upstate...
>
> John

Here
http://www.hardwoodlumberandmillwork.com/

It isn't really a lumber yard, mostly a guy that does custom wood and mill
work that also stocks reasonable quantities of a fair number of species.

I paid $2.73 including 7% tax for the poplar. Could have got it from NC for
$1.80, would have saved some even with shipping but I prefer to pick what I
buy if I can.


--

dadiOH
____________________________

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Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
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