I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
I tried to build one out of plywood with poplar runners (what I had
available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
use.
I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
my miter slot very well.
Anyway, I'm curious if anyone sells these things commercially for a decent
price?
I've seen sliding tables, which would be nice, but they take up more space
than I have available.
Thanks,
Anthony
In article <Gz_%[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I would order a set of miter sliders from Woodpeckers
> or one of the magazines and have a smooth slider in a
> short while.
>
A word of caution. I bought Incra miter sliders a while back. Unless
they've changed, they only have two adjustments, each fairly near an
end. If very much of the slider is off the table, all the free play
comes back.
I wrote them and suggested a third adjustment in the middle, but didn't
get a response. But they may have done it, I haven't looked lately.
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
Try this link...
http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2626
There was an aluminum sled for sale some years ago, but I can't remember
where.
Tom
"HerHusband" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
>
<snip>
My Incra miter has three of the "adjustable" slop eliminators on its
bar. They do work as advertized but even with three, there still is the
slight "jump" to the side as each adjuster in turn is relieved from the
miter slot. Not a big deal but not ideal either. My guess is the miter
bar is designed for the slightly narrower "Craftman" saw miter slots.
The larger slots (Unisaw in my case) need the adjusters. A better
approach would be to somehow have the miter bar split in the center so
that each side maintains full contact with the walls of the miter slot.
If the table saw sled being built uses two miter bars, mounting them
with the adjusters opposed would work. They could then be installed so
the non-adjustable faces make the miter slot contact and the adjusters
are used for controlling slide friction and keeping the bars in position.
The adjustability is nice since the fit can be made very tight for top
accuracy (at the cost of higher pushing force required). or relaxed for
easy gliding (at the cost of reduced accuracy). Fixed width bars could
do ome or the other but not both.
-BR
Mike in Mystic wrote:
> I made this exact sled, although I didn't buy the kit. I've tried the
> plastic runners in the past and have never been happy with them. I used two
> sets of Incra miter sliders instead. I have never had any problem with them
> such as suggested by Larry, in a response below. I can't recall if there
> are three "slop adusting" set screws, but since I routinely crosscut up to
> 24" wide pieces and never have a problem, I'm guessing there must be 3.
> I've used this sled for every project for the last 18 months and never had
> to readjust the sliders - they are dead-on and have no play at all.
>
> If you're not sure what the big advantage of the Incra miter sliders is, it
> is because you are able to adust the fit of the sliders perfectly AFTER the
> sled is constructed. You also have enough adjustability (if you build the
> sled within some tolerances) to make the sled perfectly square even after
> you've glued it up. They really are worth the $$.
>
> Mike
>
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Absolutely, The Dubby from In-Line Industries. I have both left and right
sides. These sleds are large enough to cut decent sized plywood panels and
accurately. For $90 more than the Jointech model, you get "two" sleds with
twice the capacity of the Jointech.
http://www.in-lineindustries.com/
"HerHusband" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
>
> I tried to build one out of plywood with poplar runners (what I had
> available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
> than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
> use.
>
> I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
> get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
> bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
> my miter slot very well.
>
> Anyway, I'm curious if anyone sells these things commercially for a decent
> price?
>
> I've seen sliding tables, which would be nice, but they take up more space
> than I have available.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
Several companies sell sleds, including Delta,Jointech,
Incra, and several more.
I would build a single runner jig out of 1/2" plywood.
I would order a set of miter sliders from Woodpeckers
or one of the magazines and have a smooth slider in a
short while.
Here is your plywood:
http://www.woodpeck.com/balticbirch.html
and here are the sliders:
http://www.woodpeck.com/tmiterchannel.html
HerHusband wrote:
> I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
>
> I tried to build one out of plywood with poplar runners (what I had
> available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
> than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
> use.
>
> I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
> get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
> bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
> my miter slot very well.
>
> Anyway, I'm curious if anyone sells these things commercially for a decent
> price?
>
> I've seen sliding tables, which would be nice, but they take up more space
> than I have available.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
www.jointech.com
Look at the Smart Miter. A little pricey, but it works great.
"HerHusband" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
>
> I tried to build one out of plywood with poplar runners (what I had
> available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
> than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
> use.
>
> I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
> get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
> bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
> my miter slot very well.
>
> Anyway, I'm curious if anyone sells these things commercially for a decent
> price?
>
> I've seen sliding tables, which would be nice, but they take up more space
> than I have available.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> A word of caution. I bought Incra miter sliders a while back. Unless
> they've changed, they only have two adjustments, each fairly near an
> end. If very much of the slider is off the table, all the free play
> comes back.
>
> I wrote them and suggested a third adjustment in the middle, but didn't
> get a response. But they may have done it, I haven't looked lately.
>
I have the 24" sliders that have 3 adjusters. The shorter (18" I think)
may have only 2.
--
Phillip Hansen
Skil-Phil Solutions
Most of them will feature mitering as well as cut-off. I guess the
granddaddy of them all is the Dubby. Found here:
http://www.in-lineindustries.com/
But my advice is to save your money and work on your skills. You really
should be able to build a successful sled.
--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com
"HerHusband" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
>
> I tried to build one out of plywood with poplar runners (what I had
> available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
> than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
> use.
>
> I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
> get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
> bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
> my miter slot very well.
>
> Anyway, I'm curious if anyone sells these things commercially for a decent
> price?
>
> I've seen sliding tables, which would be nice, but they take up more space
> than I have available.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
HerHusband <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a
> tablesaw?
>
><snip>
http://www.woodhaven.com/detail.aspx?ID=1112
Haven't used it. In fact, I've never seen one, but ran across the page when
looking at something someone else posted regarding a bandsaw fence.
Woodhaven makes great products.
I've made several of my own, borrowing liberally from the archived wisdom
of the collective. They work well.
Patriarch.
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:24:02 -0000, HerHusband <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
>
>I tried to build one out of plywood with poplar runners (what I had
>available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
>than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
>use.
>
>I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
>get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
>bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
>my miter slot very well.
>
>Anyway, I'm curious if anyone sells these things commercially for a decent
>price?
>
>I've seen sliding tables, which would be nice, but they take up more space
>than I have available.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Anthony
I just posted about a sled I built to
alt.binaries.pictures.woodworking under the header a good cheap table
saw sled.
I just made one almost exactly like you described, A-C ply with poplar
runners and poplar from and back braces.. I made the runner to fit
right but getting it aligned can be tricky. Mine sticks a little but
that's better than being sloppy. You can buy metal runners if you're
having a problem milling the runners yourself or they do make them
commercially. I was just looking at a catalog last night that had them
in, forget the name. Someone who sells mostly router stuff. I think it
was Woodhaven.
OK, I found it....it is woodhaven
http://www.woodhaven.com/SubTableSawSleds.aspx
HerHusband <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
>
> I tried to build one out of plywood with poplar runners (what I had
> available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
> than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
> use.
>
> I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
> get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
> bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
> my miter slot very well.
>
> Anyway, I'm curious if anyone sells these things commercially for a decent
> price?
>
> I've seen sliding tables, which would be nice, but they take up more space
> than I have available.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
HerHusband <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
>
> I tried to build one out of plywood with poplar runners (what I had
> available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
> than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
> use.
>
> I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
> get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
> bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
> my miter slot very well.
>
> Anyway, I'm curious if anyone sells these things commercially for a decent
> price?
>
> I've seen sliding tables, which would be nice, but they take up more space
> than I have available.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
Not aware of commercially avalible sleds, but mitre sliders are avalible
for this purpose. DAGS 'incra miter slider'
"HerHusband" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
Don't see anyone suggesting WoodHaven yet. I like the *looks* of their
sleds. Don't have one tho'.
> available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
> than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
> use.
Aye! Hear ya' there.
>
> I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
> get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
> bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
> my miter slot very well.
As did my first one. Sled V2 is much nicer as I adjusted my technique. I
spend quite a bit of time fitting the stock to the slots. I go slow and
really sneak up on a tight fit. I also dimension a nice sized chunk of Oak
so I have material to make more runners as needed.
I also waxed the underside of my sled and the runners. That helped.
When putting the sled on the runners, did you (a) make the runners height
"less deep" that the slots? (b) lift the runners up a smidge by putting a
penny or two under them? (c) place them in their runners with dbl stick tape
on top and then drop the sled on them? (d) slide the sled and runners
forward, but still in the slots, then attach a screw at the front; then
slide them backward, but still in the slots and attach a screw at the back?
Those TipLets helped me out.
These are probably obvious tips to experienced woodworkers, but having
recently made several sleds for various purposes, I discovered an easy way
to cut runners precisely. In the past, I'd shave down 3/4" stock and rip
off the runners. But I discovered that an easier way is to get some
1/4" oak stock from HD and rip the runners flat. The runners don't fit
all the way down in the slot, but they shouldn't anyway.
I set the sled base down on the runners, square with the back of the
table, and screw from the top. Then I make an initial kerf and set the
fence square to that, with a screw on one end and a clamp on the other
until I make a test crosscut to check the square.
I'll bet the commercial sleds are great to use, but I wanted the practice,
because I figured that if I couldn't build a decent sled, I might not do
too well with more difficult projects.
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:24:02 +0000, HerHusband wrote:
> I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
> get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
> bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
> my miter slot very well.
Woodhaven definitely sells them pre-made or as kits
John
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 14:24:02 -0000, HerHusband <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
>
>I tried to build one out of plywood with poplar runners (what I had
>available), but I wasn't real happy with it. For starters, it weighs more
>than most of the panels I'm trying to cut, so it's not real convenient to
>use.
>
>I originally built it with runners to fit both miter slots, but couldn't
>get it aligned well enough to let it slide smoothly. So, I cut it down a
>bit to reduce the size and weight, but the wood runner I made doesn't fit
>my miter slot very well.
>
>Anyway, I'm curious if anyone sells these things commercially for a decent
>price?
>
>I've seen sliding tables, which would be nice, but they take up more space
>than I have available.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Anthony
I made this exact sled, although I didn't buy the kit. I've tried the
plastic runners in the past and have never been happy with them. I used two
sets of Incra miter sliders instead. I have never had any problem with them
such as suggested by Larry, in a response below. I can't recall if there
are three "slop adusting" set screws, but since I routinely crosscut up to
24" wide pieces and never have a problem, I'm guessing there must be 3.
I've used this sled for every project for the last 18 months and never had
to readjust the sliders - they are dead-on and have no play at all.
If you're not sure what the big advantage of the Incra miter sliders is, it
is because you are able to adust the fit of the sliders perfectly AFTER the
sled is constructed. You also have enough adjustability (if you build the
sled within some tolerances) to make the sled perfectly square even after
you've glued it up. They really are worth the $$.
Mike
"Thomas Bunetta" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Try this link...
>
http://www.tools-for-woodworking.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=26
26
>
> There was an aluminum sled for sale some years ago, but I can't remember
> where.
> Tom
> "HerHusband" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm curious if anyone sells crosscut sleds commercially for a tablesaw?
> >
> <snip>
>
>