OT -- deer hunting success

In article <[email protected]>, Doug Miller
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Hunting season opened at 7:03 this morning. By 9:00, I was field-dressing a
> buck. Third year in
> a row I've gotten a deer before lunchtime on opening day -- it's nice to be
> able to hunt private
> property after all these years hunting in state forests, along with a hundred
> thousand other
> people. Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
> freezer.
>
> Life is good.

Way to go, Doug.

--
I used to like fishing because I thought it had some larger significance. Now I
like fishing because it¹s the one thing I can think of that probably doesn¹t. ­
John Gierach

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 01:50:13 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
>"Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
>multiplied like rats.

Florida Gators and Pythons? Of course, neither can be considered
natural deer predators, but you could export some of Florida's
predators out west to control the deer problem. Once the deer are all
gone, those exported predators should die off pretty quick.

:)

On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:43:49 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>> Just something to think about...
>
>Doubtful they were here first. They don't live that long. Doug was
>definitely here first. Case settled.

Maybe he's talking about the Deer Species. In any event, I vote to
eliminate Doug. He certainly has had more of a negative impact on this
earth than *any* deer.

Doug Miller wrote:

> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
> freezer.

>Life is good.
------------------------------------------------------
Bob Martin wrote:

> Not for the deer!
------------------------------------------------------
The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.

"Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
multiplied like rats.

Here in the West, we have mountain lions.

Parklands in the cities have been over run and have become a real
problem.

Farmers OTOH, can get a little relief by opening their lands to
hunters.

Know a couple farmers in Michigan who would be happy if the hunters
shot ALL the "Bambis" on their farms.

Lew

"Swingman" wrote in message
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On 11/23/2012 8:23 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 11/21/2012 5:28 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>> Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>
>>>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>>>> that.
>>>
>>> Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
>>> obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
>>> number of *other* people.
>>>
>>> Hypocrite.
>>>
>>
>> What about the two deer you eliminated? I don't want to stir things up,
>> but don't the deer have any rights (maybe they were here first)?
>
> No kidding Bill, I was just reading over the "deer" bill of rights.....
>
> You should see the bill the mosquito's.
>
> Oh and that beef and chicken you eat...

I can send a -pile-, er testing sample of the recycled turkey I ate
yesterday to any lawyer who wants to file a class action on behalf of
the Turkey Bill of Rights ... but they'll have to hurry.


What? You can't save it?

Dave in Texas

On 11/18/2012 3:50 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Doug Miller wrote:
>
>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
>> freezer.
>
>> Life is good.
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Martin wrote:
>
>> Not for the deer!
> ------------------------------------------------------
> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>
> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
> multiplied like rats.
>
> Here in the West, we have mountain lions.
>
> Parklands in the cities have been over run and have become a real
> problem.
>
> Farmers OTOH, can get a little relief by opening their lands to
> hunters.
>
> Know a couple farmers in Michigan who would be happy if the hunters
> shot ALL the "Bambis" on their farms.
>
> Lew
>
>
>

we (farmers and ranchers) also have the out clause that allows us to
'drop them on site' year round if they are endangering livestock. Yep,
deer endanger my live stock by knocking down fences. So away they go.
--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Doug Miller wrote:
> Hunting season opened at 7:03 this morning. By 9:00, I was
> field-dressing a buck. Third year in a row I've gotten a deer before
> lunchtime on opening day -- it's nice to be able to hunt private
> property after all these years hunting in state forests, along with a
> hundred thousand other people. Should wind up with close to a hundred
> pounds of venison in the freezer.
>
> Life is good.

From a Dilbert cartoon

Pointy-haired boss (PHB) - "I went hunting over the weekend and shot a
moose."
Secretary: "That doesn't sound like you. What am I missing?"
PHB: "It had a saddle."
Secretary: "And there it is."

On 11/21/2012 5:28 PM, Bill wrote:
> Doug Miller wrote:
>> Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>
>>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>>> that.
>>
>> Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
>> obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
>> number of *other* people.
>>
>> Hypocrite.
>>
>
> What about the two deer you eliminated? I don't want to stir things up,
> but don't the deer have any rights (maybe they were here first)?

No kidding Bill, I was just reading over the "deer" bill of rights.....

You should see the bill the mosquito's.

Oh and that beef and chicken you eat...

[email protected] (Larry W) wrote in news:k896ha$lmb$1
@speranza.aioe.org:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Hunting season opened at 7:03 this morning. By 9:00, I was
>>field-dressing a buck. Third year in
>>a row I've gotten a deer before lunchtime on opening day -- it's nice to
>>be able to hunt private
>>property after all these years hunting in state forests, along with a
>>hundred thousand other
>>people. Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the freezer.
>>
>>Life is good.
>
> I know a guy who shot one from his bedroom window a few years back.
>
According to Jeff Foxworthy, then, he might be a redneck. That's one of the criteria: "if
you've ever shot a deer from your house..."

"Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in news:k896hk$hcq$1@dont-
email.me:

> Doug Miller wrote:
>> Hunting season opened at 7:03 this morning. By 9:00, I was
>> field-dressing a buck. Third year in a row I've gotten a deer before
>> lunchtime on opening day -- it's nice to be able to hunt private
>> property after all these years hunting in state forests, along with a
>> hundred thousand other people. Should wind up with close to a hundred
>> pounds of venison in the freezer.
>>
>
> 100lbs? Geezus - that must have been a monster buck! Post pics. Most
> average NE bucks only yield around 60lbs tops.

No monster; by Midwestern standards, it's only medium-sized, even leaning a bit toward the
small side of medium. No pics to post -- it wasn't big enough to bother taking any.

I will say this, though: it's the biggest four-point buck I've ever seen. I was *really* surprised
there wasn't at least one more set of tines on the antlers.

Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> in 1542557 20121118 102733 "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
>>>> freezer.
>>>
>>>> Life is good.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> Bob Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not for the deer!
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
>>> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>>>
>>> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
>>> multiplied like rats.
>>>
>>
>>Except for the runaway coyote population
>
> What about the runaway human population?

If you feel there are too many humans, you know what to do about it....

Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> in 1542621 20121119 213448 Doug Miller
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> in 1542557 20121118 102733 "Mike Marlow"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in
>>>>>> the freezer.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Life is good.
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Bob Martin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Not for the deer!
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
>>>>> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus
>>>>> they have multiplied like rats.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Except for the runaway coyote population
>>>
>>> What about the runaway human population?
>>
>>If you feel there are too many humans, you know what to do about
>>it....
>
> OK, where do you live? ;-)
>
That's about what I figured: you think there are too many *other*
humans.

"HeyBub" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Doug Miller wrote:
>> Hunting season opened at 7:03 this morning. By 9:00, I was
>> field-dressing a buck. Third year in a row I've gotten a deer before
>> lunchtime on opening day -- it's nice to be able to hunt private
>> property after all these years hunting in state forests, along with a
>> hundred thousand other people. Should wind up with close to a hundred
>> pounds of venison in the freezer.
>>
>> Life is good.
>
> From a Dilbert cartoon
>
> Pointy-haired boss (PHB) - "I went hunting over the weekend and shot a
> moose."
> Secretary: "That doesn't sound like you. What am I missing?"
> PHB: "It had a saddle."
> Secretary: "And there it is."
>
No saddles on mine, just antlers.

Heading out again tomorrow morning at oh-dark-thirty with my son and his SWMBO. 'Bout
time to hit the rack.

Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> in 1542659 20121120 160637 Doug Miller
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> in 1542621 20121119 213448 Doug Miller
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> What about the runaway human population?
>>>>
>>>>If you feel there are too many humans, you know what to do
>>>>about it....
>>>
>>> OK, where do you live? ;-)
>>>
>>That's about what I figured: you think there are too many
>>*other* humans.
>
> Well, I was here before most of them!

So you got yours, and to hell with everyone else, eh?

> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
> that.

Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
number of *other* people.

Hypocrite.

Bill <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Doug Miller wrote:
>> Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>
>>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>>> that.
>>
>> Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
>> obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
>> number of *other* people.
>>
>> Hypocrite.
>>
>
> What about the two deer you eliminated? I don't want to stir things up,
> but don't the deer have any rights (maybe they were here first)?
>
> Just something to think about...
>
I'm doing my part to fix Indiana's deer overpopulation problem, and my checkbook
underpopulation problem.

Dave <[email protected]> wrote in news:3v5ra8tq9j54d0momv52f234ic9ciis06n@
4ax.com:

> On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:43:49 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
>>> Just something to think about...
>>
>>Doubtful they were here first. They don't live that long. Doug was
>>definitely here first. Case settled.
>
> Maybe he's talking about the Deer Species. In any event, I vote to
> eliminate Doug. He certainly has had more of a negative impact on this
> earth than *any* deer.
>
You're welcome to make the attempt, Dave, but I suspect it won't end well for you.

Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> in 1542724 20121121 231709 Doug Miller <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> in 1542659 20121120 160637 Doug Miller
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> in 1542621 20121119 213448 Doug Miller
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about the runaway human population?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you feel there are too many humans, you know what to do
>>>>>>about it....
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, where do you live? ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>That's about what I figured: you think there are too many
>>>>*other* humans.
>>>
>>> Well, I was here before most of them!
>>
>>So you got yours, and to hell with everyone else, eh?
>>
>>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>>> that.
>>
>>Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
>>obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
>>number of *other* people.
>>
>>Hypocrite.
>
> Moron. Just go on denying that there's a problem.

Let me guess: the "problem" exists in areas of the world inhabited by people with darker
skin than yours, right?

in 1542539 20121117 213800 Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hunting season opened at 7:03 this morning. By 9:00, I was field-dressing a buck. Third year in
>a row I've gotten a deer before lunchtime on opening day -- it's nice to be able to hunt private
>property after all these years hunting in state forests, along with a hundred thousand other
>people. Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the freezer.
>
>Life is good.

Not for the deer!

in 1542557 20121118 102733 "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
>>> freezer.
>>
>>> Life is good.
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> Bob Martin wrote:
>>
>>> Not for the deer!
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
>> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>>
>> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
>> multiplied like rats.
>>
>
>Except for the runaway coyote population

What about the runaway human population?

in 1542621 20121119 213448 Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> in 1542557 20121118 102733 "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
>>>>> freezer.
>>>>
>>>>> Life is good.
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Bob Martin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not for the deer!
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
>>>> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>>>>
>>>> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
>>>> multiplied like rats.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Except for the runaway coyote population
>>
>> What about the runaway human population?
>
>If you feel there are too many humans, you know what to do about it....

OK, where do you live? ;-)

in 1542659 20121120 160637 Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> in 1542621 20121119 213448 Doug Miller
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> in 1542557 20121118 102733 "Mike Marlow"
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in
>>>>>>> the freezer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Life is good.
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Bob Martin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not for the deer!
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
>>>>>> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus
>>>>>> they have multiplied like rats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Except for the runaway coyote population
>>>>
>>>> What about the runaway human population?
>>>
>>>If you feel there are too many humans, you know what to do about
>>>it....
>>
>> OK, where do you live? ;-)
>>
>That's about what I figured: you think there are too many *other*
>humans.

Well, I was here before most of them!
World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like that.

in 1542724 20121121 231709 Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> in 1542659 20121120 160637 Doug Miller
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> in 1542621 20121119 213448 Doug Miller
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the runaway human population?
>>>>>
>>>>>If you feel there are too many humans, you know what to do
>>>>>about it....
>>>>
>>>> OK, where do you live? ;-)
>>>>
>>>That's about what I figured: you think there are too many
>>>*other* humans.
>>
>> Well, I was here before most of them!
>
>So you got yours, and to hell with everyone else, eh?
>
>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>> that.
>
>Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
>obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
>number of *other* people.
>
>Hypocrite.

Moron. Just go on denying that there's a problem.

On 11/23/2012 8:23 AM, Leon wrote:
> On 11/21/2012 5:28 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>> Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>
>>>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>>>> that.
>>>
>>> Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
>>> obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
>>> number of *other* people.
>>>
>>> Hypocrite.
>>>
>>
>> What about the two deer you eliminated? I don't want to stir things up,
>> but don't the deer have any rights (maybe they were here first)?
>
> No kidding Bill, I was just reading over the "deer" bill of rights.....
>
> You should see the bill the mosquito's.
>
> Oh and that beef and chicken you eat...

I can send a -pile-, er testing sample of the recycled turkey I ate
yesterday to any lawyer who wants to file a class action on behalf of
the Turkey Bill of Rights ... but they'll have to hurry.


--
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Last update: 4/15/2010
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In article <[email protected]>,
Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>Hunting season opened at 7:03 this morning. By 9:00, I was
>field-dressing a buck. Third year in
>a row I've gotten a deer before lunchtime on opening day -- it's nice to
>be able to hunt private
>property after all these years hunting in state forests, along with a
>hundred thousand other
>people. Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the freezer.
>
>Life is good.

I know a guy who shot one from his bedroom window a few years back.


--
When the game is over, the pawn and the king are returned to the same box.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

Doug Miller wrote:
> Hunting season opened at 7:03 this morning. By 9:00, I was
> field-dressing a buck. Third year in a row I've gotten a deer before
> lunchtime on opening day -- it's nice to be able to hunt private
> property after all these years hunting in state forests, along with a
> hundred thousand other people. Should wind up with close to a hundred
> pounds of venison in the freezer.
>

100lbs? Geezus - that must have been a monster buck! Post pics. Most
average NE bucks only yield around 60lbs tops.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Doug Miller wrote:
> "Mike Marlow" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:k896hk$hcq$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>> Hunting season opened at 7:03 this morning. By 9:00, I was
>>> field-dressing a buck. Third year in a row I've gotten a deer before
>>> lunchtime on opening day -- it's nice to be able to hunt private
>>> property after all these years hunting in state forests, along with
>>> a hundred thousand other people. Should wind up with close to a
>>> hundred pounds of venison in the freezer.
>>>
>>
>> 100lbs? Geezus - that must have been a monster buck! Post pics.
>> Most average NE bucks only yield around 60lbs tops.
>
> No monster; by Midwestern standards, it's only medium-sized, even
> leaning a bit toward the
> small side of medium. No pics to post -- it wasn't big enough to
> bother taking any.
>
> I will say this, though: it's the biggest four-point buck I've ever
> seen. I was *really* surprised there wasn't at least one more set of
> tines on the antlers.

Can't eat the horns anyway. Congratulations! I haven't been out at all
this year, but I do keep an eye on my woods through my den doors - I'm not
worried about being called a redneck for shooting them right off my deck.

Around here the average field dressed buck goes around 130lbs. Yields
around 60lbs of real meat (maybe between 60 and 80lbs), as I said before. A
180lbs buck is a big buck around here. 200lbs is an absolute monster. I've
weighed deer before, but I've never actually weighed the total meat taken
off of them. I've weighed parts of the meat - the amount of hamburger for
example.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Doug Miller wrote:
>
>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
>> freezer.
>
>> Life is good.
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Bob Martin wrote:
>
>> Not for the deer!
> ------------------------------------------------------
> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>
> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
> multiplied like rats.
>

Except for the runaway coyote population

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On 11/18/2012 5:27 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
>>> freezer.
>>
>>> Life is good.
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> Bob Martin wrote:
>>
>>> Not for the deer!
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
>> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>>
>> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
>> multiplied like rats.
>>
>
> Except for the runaway coyote population
>
Then the coyotes are not doing their job. I believe the number one
cause of auto insurance claims is deer collisions.

You mentioned the Bambi complex. It is difficult to argue with a 6 year
old, when you are on a hike, that Walt Disney is not the ultimate
authority on the life of a deer. Especially when they are aware a
second fawn is following you 10 or 20 feet off of the trail as you try
to take pictures of the mother and her other fawn

Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 11/18/2012 5:27 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
>>>> freezer.
>>>
>>>> Life is good.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> Bob Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not for the deer!
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
>>> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>>>
>>> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
>>> multiplied like rats.
>>>
>>
>> Except for the runaway coyote population
>>
> Then the coyotes are not doing their job. I believe the number one
> cause of auto insurance claims is deer collisions.

Nope - they can't keep up with the deer population. They are simply a
natural predator of deer - that's all I stated in response to Lew's comment.

>
> You mentioned the Bambi complex. It is difficult to argue with a 6
> year old, when you are on a hike, that Walt Disney is not the ultimate
> authority on the life of a deer. Especially when they are aware a
> second fawn is following you 10 or 20 feet off of the trail as you try
> to take pictures of the mother and her other fawn

I did not mention that - Lew did.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Bob Martin wrote:
> in 1542557 20121118 102733 "Mike Marlow"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
>>>> freezer.
>>>
>>>> Life is good.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> Bob Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not for the deer!
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
>>> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>>>
>>> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
>>> multiplied like rats.
>>>
>>
>> Except for the runaway coyote population
>
> What about the runaway human population?

Seems they are becoming less of a natural predator to the deer population -
except for when they're driving their cars...

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

On 11/18/2012 6:21 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
> On 11/18/2012 5:27 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>
>>>> Should wind up with close to a hundred pounds of venison in the
>>>> freezer.
>>>
>>>> Life is good.
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> Bob Martin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not for the deer!
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> The "Bambi" complex has lead to serious problems in several
>>> suburban areas, especially in the Eastern half of the USA.
>>>
>>> "Bambi" has no natural predators in the Eastern USA thus they have
>>> multiplied like rats.
>>>
>>
>> Except for the runaway coyote population
>>
> Then the coyotes are not doing their job. I believe the number one
> cause of auto insurance claims is deer collisions.

i had a deer hit me a few months ago. small female mule deer just before
sunrise. i saw it out of the corner of my eye coming up out of a ditch
on the side of the road, slammed on my brakes and was dead stopped when
it hit me on my vette's front quarter panel, rolled off the hood, and
kept on going.

> You mentioned the Bambi complex. It is difficult to argue with a 6 year
> old, when you are on a hike, that Walt Disney is not the ultimate
> authority on the life of a deer. Especially when they are aware a
> second fawn is following you 10 or 20 feet off of the trail as you try
> to take pictures of the mother and her other fawn
>

Doug Miller wrote:
> Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in

>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>> that.
>
> Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
> obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
> number of *other* people.
>
> Hypocrite.
>

What about the two deer you eliminated? I don't want to stir things up,
but don't the deer have any rights (maybe they were here first)?

Just something to think about...

Bill wrote:
> Doug Miller wrote:
>> Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>
>>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>>> that.
>>
>> Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
>> obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
>> number of *other* people.
>>
>> Hypocrite.
>>
>
> What about the two deer you eliminated? I don't want to stir things
> up, but don't the deer have any rights (maybe they were here first)?
>
> Just something to think about...

Doubtful they were here first. They don't live that long. Doug was
definitely here first. Case settled.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

Leon wrote:
> On 11/21/2012 5:28 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>> Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>
>>>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>>>> that.
>>>
>>> Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
>>> obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
>>> number of *other* people.
>>>
>>> Hypocrite.
>>>
>>
>> What about the two deer you eliminated? I don't want to stir things up,
>> but don't the deer have any rights (maybe they were here first)?
>
> No kidding Bill, I was just reading over the "deer" bill of rights.....

Yes, it has been observed that when things come down to choices for
people or for nature, nature usually loses--just look out your window
and imagine how it looked 100 years ago.

I have heard that Cows has a pretty good bill of rights plan in India.
If someone would like to set up something here to protect some deer, I
wouldn't object. From what I have heard, the native americans had alot
respect for nature--but we kicked them the hell off *our* property! I'm
sure not before a lot of soul-searching though.

Was the hide of the two eliminated deer discarded as a matter of
convenience? We are a wasteful lot.



>
> You should see the bill the mosquito's.
>
> Oh and that beef and chicken you eat...
>
>
>
>
>
>

On 11/23/2012 11:10 AM, Dave in Texas wrote:
> "Swingman" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> On 11/23/2012 8:23 AM, Leon wrote:
>> On 11/21/2012 5:28 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Doug Miller wrote:
>>>> Bob Martin <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>
>>>>> World population has tripled since I was born. Can't go on like
>>>>> that.
>>>>
>>>> Another population-control advocate who isn't willing to take the
>>>> obvious direct action open to him, but instead wants to limit the
>>>> number of *other* people.
>>>>
>>>> Hypocrite.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What about the two deer you eliminated? I don't want to stir things up,
>>> but don't the deer have any rights (maybe they were here first)?
>>
>> No kidding Bill, I was just reading over the "deer" bill of rights.....
>>
>> You should see the bill the mosquito's.
>>
>> Oh and that beef and chicken you eat...
>
> I can send a -pile-, er testing sample of the recycled turkey I ate
> yesterday to any lawyer who wants to file a class action on behalf of
> the Turkey Bill of Rights ... but they'll have to hurry.
>
>
> What? You can't save it?
>
> Dave in Texas

I'd burn a hole thought a paper sack. :~0