On Oct 24, 7:30=A0pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <8df5752b-0477-433b-89cd-
> [email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>
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> > On Oct 24, 12:40=A0pm, "Edward =A0Hennessey" <[email protected]=
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> > wrote:
> > > "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > >news:[email protected]...
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> > > > In article <481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
> > > > 26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>
> > > >> On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >> > That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
> > > >> > friction
> > > >> > material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
> > > >> > piece,
> > > >> > letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
> > > >> > piece
> > > >> > down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
>
> > > >> The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
> > > >> happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
>
> > > > The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. =A0Pa=
rt
> > > > of
> > > > skill comes in not releasing pressure.
>
> > > >> I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end=
.
>
> > > > Which only works on an edge.
>
> > > Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
> > > gripper. Also,
> > > the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
> > > materials for the
> > > same purpose.
>
> > > Regards,
>
> > > Edward Hennessey- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
> > safe distance from the blade.
>
> Then you aren't the target audience, so don't buy it.
>
> > What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
> > fingers?
>
> Well, I dunno about you but I find them useful things to have.
Been playing music for over 30 years. Fingers are *very*
useful for that.
> > A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
> > overboard, and you might as well not use a
> > tablesaw at all.
>
> So to you the choices are to use a shopmade pushstick or go overboard?- H=
ide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Or keep your machine tuned up and pay attention.
Why just *one* shopmade pushstick?
They sell lemons at Harbor Freight
"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
--
<advertising snipped>
On Oct 22, 6:39=A0am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> That's fine for pushing from an edge. =A0The grr-ripper has high friction
> material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a piece,
> letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the piece
> down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.
"Four Fingers" wrote:
> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley
> also has
> it.
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>
> Opinions?
---------------------------------
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, why not?
Otherwise, why bother?
Lew
"Lew Hodgett"
> "Four Fingers" wrote:
>
>> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley
>> also has
>> it.
>> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>>
>> Opinions?
> ---------------------------------
I responded:
> If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, why not?
>
> Otherwise, why bother?
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Further thoughts:
Whack up a 2x6x96 construction timber into 8-10 equal pieces, then cut
back on each side to provide a "hook" at the end and you suddenly have
8-10 double sided push blocks.
Add a feather board(s) as required.
What am I missing?
Certainly not the money still in my wallet.
Lew
"J. Clarke" wrote:
> That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
> friction
> material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
> piece,
> letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
> piece
> down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
---------------------------------
You need to take a wood working 101 class <G>.
The above becomes a non issue when you have finished the course.
----------------------------------------
> Also the various pieces in different widths let you deal with
> relatively
> narrow strips.
-------------------------------------
SOP if the saw is set up properly.
------------------------------------
> And it's quite helpful with the router table and jointer as well as
> the
> table saw.
------------------------------
So are decent push blocks; however router and jointer tend to be
machine specific push blocks.
--------------------------------
> Next time you're in Woodcraft spend a few minutes with the
> thing--take
> it apart, put it back together, and think about it and you'll likely
> end
> up taking one home.
------------------------------------
Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
Don't even know if there is one in the area.
I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local hardware when
necessary.
Lew
"J. Clarke" wrote:
> Uh huh. So tell us what we would learn.
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That's what the 101 course is all about.
-------------------------------------
>So how does "setting the saw up properly" move narrow strips past the
> blade?
------------------------------------
Safely.
------------------------------
> Uh, what do you believe the Grr-ripper to be other than a "decent
> push
> block"?
-------------------------------
Over engineered and over priced solution waiting for a problem.
--------------------------------
> That explains much.
--------------------------
Thought it might help.
-------------------------
> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
---------------------------------
It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
Lew
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> On 10/23/10 4:29 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> > In article<[email protected]>,
>> > [email protected] says...
>> >>
>> >> On 10/23/10 1:02 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> >>> In article<[email protected]>,
>> >>> [email protected] says...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 10/23/10 11:41 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> >>>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>> >>>>> [email protected] says...
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
>> >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>> >>>>>>>> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of
>> >>>>>>> tomatoes.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Do try to follow the thread--he said that he doesn't go into _any_
>> >>>>> retail stores.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Do try to put in in context.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >> (YOU)
>> >>>> >> Next time you're in Woodcraft.....
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> > (HIM)
>> >>>> > Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local
>> >>>> hardware when
>> >>>> > necessary.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I don't think it takes the highest level of reading comprehension
>> >>>> nor
>> >>>> logic to determine he's talking about buying woodworking stuff, not
>> >>>> his daily groceries.
>> >>>
>> >>> You're inferring something that he did not imply.
>> >>
>> >> No, you're just being argumentative.
>> >>
>> >> According to you, we should assume that people get their fruits and
>> >> vegetables at Woodcraft and the local hardware store.
>> >
>> > No assumption needed. Most Americans get their fruits and vegetables
>> > at
>> > a retail store.
>> >
>> > Your inference was that "retail store" referred _only_ to stores
>> > related
>> > in some way to woodworking.
>> >
>>
>> Bullshit and you know it.
>> But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.
>
> Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody steal
> your life or something?
Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.
Max
"J. Clarke" wrote:
> Lew, do you have multiple personality disorder? You're usually
> pretty
> sensible, but right now you're the same sanctimonious twit we saw in
> the
> Abby Sunderland thread.
----------------------------------------
When I get bored or things are a little slow on the wrec,
I like to play a little game I call, "Me Pavlov, You dog".
If nothing else, it generates a little activity on the wrec.
You never know when I'm going to play this little game with you:
however,
I must complement you for your ability to fulfill your part in our
little game
without the necessity of a script.
Pavlov would have been proud.
The game is now over until the next time.
Lew
"Father Haskell" wrote:
> The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.
----------------------------------
I'll add a splitter and an anti-kick back in those situations unless
cutting edge banding (1/4" thick strips), which is a special case.
Lew
"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> [email protected] says...
>>>
>>> Bullshit and you know it.
>>> But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.
>>
>> Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody steal
>> your life or something?
>
>
> Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
> Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.
>
> Max
let me try that again. :-)
http://tinyurl.com/29elvby
Max
J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <8df5752b-0477-433b-89cd-
> [email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>
>> What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
>> fingers?
>
> Well, I dunno about you but I find them useful things to have.
>
Yeah - how the heck else would you pick your nose...?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Oct 23, 11:30=A0pm, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Father Haskell" wrote:
> > The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
>
> happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
> I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.
> ----------------------------------
> I'll add a splitter and an anti-kick back in those situations unless
> cutting edge banding (1/4" thick strips), which is a special case.
>
> Lew
Keeping the fence dead parallel to the blade is the best
anti-kickback device. With a heavy, overbuilt fence such
as a Biesemeyer, alignment is a maybe once every two
years task.
On Oct 24, 12:40=A0pm, "Edward Hennessey" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
> > 26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>
> >> On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
> >> > friction
> >> > material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
> >> > piece,
> >> > letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
> >> > piece
> >> > down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
>
> >> The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
> >> happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
>
> > The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. =A0Part
> > of
> > skill comes in not releasing pressure.
>
> >> I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.
>
> > Which only works on an edge.
>
> Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
> gripper. Also,
> the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
> materials for the
> same purpose.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward Hennessey- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
safe distance from the blade.
What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
fingers? A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
overboard, and you might as well not use a
tablesaw at all.
"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Four Fingers" wrote:
>
>> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
>> it.
>> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>>
>> Opinions?
> ---------------------------------
> If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, why not?
>
> Otherwise, why bother?
>
> Lew
>
>
It's worth every penney. You might not believe it until you try it. I have
never known anyone that has tried it that didn't think it was great.
"Four Fingers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley
> also has
> it.
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>
> Opinions?
FF:
Check that www.microjig.com website.
Microjig also offers two
accessories besides the MJ handle: an attachment that allows cutting
stock
thin as 1/8" and a transparent plate for deflecting chips and,
apparently, for
connecting two grippers side-by-side on wide stock.
A lot of folk using this report they are able to do away with the
featherboard
or at least adjust it--in certain applications--to apply less tension
on the
workpiece, reducing pinching of the workpiece and kickback.
It would be nice if the system was not spendy but as you imply 4
fingers on each
hand is good. By the way, in Spanish, all the digits are "dedos"
(fingers), so your
handle would lose a bit of the ambiguity if you're ever translating.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
>
> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
> it.
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>
> Opinions?
There was a thread on it recently--if you look for it on Google Groups
you should find it.
Bottom line is that it works nicely, does what they say it does, in
principle you can make a workalike without much trouble, in practice
making a workalike is more effort than it's worth unless you're just
doing it for the exercise.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "CW" wrote:
>
> > It's worth every penney. You might not believe it until you try it.
> > I have never known anyone that has tried it that didn't think it was
> > great.
> ----------------------------------
> Is that with or without feather boards?
Yes.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "Lew Hodgett"
>
> > "Four Fingers" wrote:
> >
> >> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley
> >> also has
> >> it.
> >> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
> >>
> >> Opinions?
> > ---------------------------------
>
> I responded:
>
> > If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, why not?
> >
> > Otherwise, why bother?
> ------------------------------------
> Further thoughts:
>
> Whack up a 2x6x96 construction timber into 8-10 equal pieces, then cut
> back on each side to provide a "hook" at the end and you suddenly have
> 8-10 double sided push blocks.
>
> Add a feather board(s) as required.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Certainly not the money still in my wallet.
That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high friction
material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a piece,
letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the piece
down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
Also the various pieces in different widths let you deal with relatively
narrow strips.
And it's quite helpful with the router table and jointer as well as the
table saw.
Next time you're in Woodcraft spend a few minutes with the thing--take
it apart, put it back together, and think about it and you'll likely end
up taking one home.
>
> Lew
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "J. Clarke" wrote:
>
> > That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
> > friction
> > material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
> > piece,
> > letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
> > piece
> > down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
> ---------------------------------
> You need to take a wood working 101 class <G>.
>
> The above becomes a non issue when you have finished the course.
Uh huh. So tell us what we would learn.
> ----------------------------------------
>
> > Also the various pieces in different widths let you deal with
> > relatively
> > narrow strips.
> -------------------------------------
> SOP if the saw is set up properly.
So how does "setting the saw up properly" move narrow strips past the
blade?
> ------------------------------------
>
> > And it's quite helpful with the router table and jointer as well as
> > the
> > table saw.
> ------------------------------
> So are decent push blocks; however router and jointer tend to be
> machine specific push blocks.
Uh, what do you believe the Grr-ripper to be other than a "decent push
block"?
> --------------------------------
>
> > Next time you're in Woodcraft spend a few minutes with the
> > thing--take
> > it apart, put it back together, and think about it and you'll likely
> > end
> > up taking one home.
> ------------------------------------
> Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
That explains much.
> Don't even know if there is one in the area.
>
> I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local hardware when
> necessary.
Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "J. Clarke" wrote:
>
> > Uh huh. So tell us what we would learn.
> ----------------------------------------
> That's what the 101 course is all about.
What, moving wood through a table saw without touching it anywhere
except the edge?
> -------------------------------------
> >So how does "setting the saw up properly" move narrow strips past the
> > blade?
> ------------------------------------
> Safely.
Tell us the mechanism by which it does this.
> ------------------------------
>
> > Uh, what do you believe the Grr-ripper to be other than a "decent
> > push
> > block"?
> -------------------------------
> Over engineered and over priced solution waiting for a problem.
I see.
> --------------------------------
>
> > That explains much.
> --------------------------
> Thought it might help.
> -------------------------
>
> > Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
> ---------------------------------
> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
Lew, do you have multiple personality disorder? You're usually pretty
sensible, but right now you're the same sanctimonious twit we saw in the
Abby Sunderland thread.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
> >
> > Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
> >
>
> They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
Do try to follow the thread--he said that he doesn't go into _any_
retail stores.
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:30:39 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit and you know it.
>>>>> But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.
>>>>
>>>> Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody
>>>> steal
>>>> your life or something?
>>>
>>>
>>> Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
>>> Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.
>
> OK, I'm game. Why just the first chapter?
>
>
>>let me try that again. :-)
>
> MUCH better this time, Maxxy.
>
>
>>http://tinyurl.com/29elvby
>
> Dayum, another one I have to buy. I still haven't gotten into David
> Crystal's _How Language Works_. My stack of "to be read" books has
> gone from a stack into an entire 7' tall bookcase, but I do make
> headway every now and then.
>
> Question: Have you been able to watch television again after reading
> that book? I think that it might make it harder for ya. (I already
> gave up TV nearly 4 years ago. Amazon and the library are my closest
> friends.)
>
> --
> An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile,
> hoping it will eat him last.
> -- Sir Winston Churchill
I'm on my second Kindle. Saves trips to the library. I have on occasion
watched Nova, Nat'l Geo, Discovery, and, if I'm particularly bored, I'll
watch part of a football game. I watched Faux news once and it scared me.
Maxie. (but only to friends)
When the evidence overwhelmingly supports the proposition it would be
perverse to deny it.
S. J. Gould
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:30:39 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit and you know it.
>>>> But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.
>>>
>>> Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody steal
>>> your life or something?
>>
>>
>> Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
>> Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.
OK, I'm game. Why just the first chapter?
>let me try that again. :-)
MUCH better this time, Maxxy.
>http://tinyurl.com/29elvby
Dayum, another one I have to buy. I still haven't gotten into David
Crystal's _How Language Works_. My stack of "to be read" books has
gone from a stack into an entire 7' tall bookcase, but I do make
headway every now and then.
Question: Have you been able to watch television again after reading
that book? I think that it might make it harder for ya. (I already
gave up TV nearly 4 years ago. Amazon and the library are my closest
friends.)
--
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile,
hoping it will eat him last.
-- Sir Winston Churchill
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 10/23/10 11:41 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > In article<[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
> >>>> ---------------------------------
> >>>> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
> >>>
> >>> Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
> >>>
> >>
> >> They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
> >
> > Do try to follow the thread--he said that he doesn't go into _any_
> > retail stores.
> >
>
> Do try to put in in context.
>
> >> (YOU)
> >> Next time you're in Woodcraft.....
> >>
> > (HIM)
> > Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
> >
> > I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local hardware when
> > necessary.
> >
>
> I don't think it takes the highest level of reading comprehension nor
> logic to determine he's talking about buying woodworking stuff, not
> his daily groceries.
You're inferring something that he did not imply.
"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:38:04 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:30:39 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit and you know it.
>>>>>>> But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody
>>>>>> steal
>>>>>> your life or something?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
>>>>> Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.
>>>
>>> OK, I'm game. Why just the first chapter?
>
> You didn't answer this one.
>
>
>>> MUCH better this time, Maxxy.
>>
>>I'm on my second Kindle. Saves trips to the library. I have on occasion
>>watched Nova, Nat'l Geo, Discovery, and, if I'm particularly bored, I'll
>>watch part of a football game.
>
> It's a bit more expensive than the library, but I'm sure it saves lots
> of time and hassles. They put a self-check scanner in our local
> branch so I can be in and out of there, dropping off books and
> grabbing another armful, in 5 minutes. But they're only open about 20
> hours/week. Kindle has WIFI, eh?
>
>
>>I watched Faux news once and it scared me.
>
> I'm glad I'd swallowed my tea before reading that line, ya wuss.
>
>
>>Maxie. (but only to friends)
>
> Rightio!
>
> --
> An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile,
> hoping it will eat him last.
> -- Sir Winston Churchill
Ah, the first chapter only question. It occurs to me that the individuals
involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog through the rest of
the
tome. (interesting how closely the spelling is to "tomb".)
But they need only the first chapter to discover that semantics often
determine one's whole way of thinking and that disagreements often arise
when someone has not the lexical dexterity to phrase his/her opinion
precisely as required for clear understanding or the recipient of an opinion
lacks the vocabulary to accurately interpret what was intended.
On the other hand, one or the other of the fine gentlemen might be a bit of
a pedant.
Or maybe someone pissed in their Cheerios.
Max
"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 10/24/10 9:37 PM, Max wrote:
>> Ah, the first chapter only question. It occurs to me that the
>> individuals involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog
>> through the rest of the tome.
>>
>> Max
>
> wow, Max.
> Are you trying to be arrogant and condescending or does it just come
> natural? :-)
Um..............sarcastic........maybe?
> -MIKE-
>
> "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
> --Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
> --
> http://mikedrums.com
> [email protected]
> ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
>
I left out the possibility that, using an old expression of mine, "maybe the
fire ants are in hibernation".
I have several friends who, in their idle moments, descend into
confrontational arguments. These folks are highly intelligent compatriots
and ordinarily present cogent reasoning in any discussion in which they
engage. ( I suspect the same applies to you and your antagonist) but when
"the fire ants are hibernating" and my friends don't have to direct their
attention to eradication activities (they aren't "busy") they join in debate
over relative trivia. I have on a number of occasions read your worthy
posts and was a bit surprised at the time you devoted to a more or less
pointless diversion. The same applies to your opponent.
(Oh...... the book is a challenge. That's why I used the words "slog" and
"tomb". I suspect that the author needs to produce a certain number of
publications and has run out of ideas for letters to the editor)
Yours for increased sawdust production,
Max (as you can well imagine I don't have a problem with fire ants)
On 10/24/10 9:37 PM, Max wrote:
> Ah, the first chapter only question. It occurs to me that the
> individuals involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog
> through the rest of the tome.
>
> Max
wow, Max.
Are you trying to be arrogant and condescending or does it just come
natural? :-)
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
On 10/25/10 10:17 AM, Max wrote:
> "-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 10/24/10 9:37 PM, Max wrote:
>>> Ah, the first chapter only question. It occurs to me that the
>>> individuals involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog
>>> through the rest of the tome.
>>>
>>> Max
>>
>> wow, Max.
>> Are you trying to be arrogant and condescending or does it just come
>> natural? :-)
>
> Um..............sarcastic........maybe?
>
In here? Never.
>
> I left out the possibility that, using an old expression of mine, "maybe
> the fire ants are in hibernation".
> I have several friends who, in their idle moments, descend into
> confrontational arguments. These folks are highly intelligent
> compatriots and ordinarily present cogent reasoning in any discussion in
> which they engage. ( I suspect the same applies to you and your
> antagonist) but when "the fire ants are hibernating" and my friends
> don't have to direct their attention to eradication activities (they
> aren't "busy") they join in debate over relative trivia. I have on a
> number of occasions read your worthy posts and was a bit surprised at
> the time you devoted to a more or less pointless diversion. The same
> applies to your opponent.
>
I'm stealing that fire ants thing.
> (Oh...... the book is a challenge. That's why I used the words "slog"
> and "tomb". I suspect that the author needs to produce a certain number
> of publications and has run out of ideas for letters to the editor)
>
I have a few that are a challenge to read because it seems the author
tried too hard to create paragraphs from what should be sentences,
chapters from paragraphs and a book from what should have been a chapter.
I have a few others that are a challenge because there's so much packed
into each paragraph, my brain hurts after only a few pages.
> Yours for increased sawdust production,
> Max (as you can well imagine I don't have a problem with fire ants)
>
peace.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:38:04 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:30:39 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bullshit and you know it.
>>>>>> But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody
>>>>> steal
>>>>> your life or something?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
>>>> Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.
>>
>> OK, I'm game. Why just the first chapter?
You didn't answer this one.
>> MUCH better this time, Maxxy.
>
>I'm on my second Kindle. Saves trips to the library. I have on occasion
>watched Nova, Nat'l Geo, Discovery, and, if I'm particularly bored, I'll
>watch part of a football game.
It's a bit more expensive than the library, but I'm sure it saves lots
of time and hassles. They put a self-check scanner in our local
branch so I can be in and out of there, dropping off books and
grabbing another armful, in 5 minutes. But they're only open about 20
hours/week. Kindle has WIFI, eh?
>I watched Faux news once and it scared me.
I'm glad I'd swallowed my tea before reading that line, ya wuss.
>Maxie. (but only to friends)
Rightio!
--
An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile,
hoping it will eat him last.
-- Sir Winston Churchill
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 10/23/10 1:02 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > In article<[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> On 10/23/10 11:41 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >>> In article<[email protected]>,
> >>> [email protected] says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
> >>>>>> ---------------------------------
> >>>>>> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
> >>>
> >>> Do try to follow the thread--he said that he doesn't go into _any_
> >>> retail stores.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Do try to put in in context.
> >>
> >> >> (YOU)
> >> >> Next time you're in Woodcraft.....
> >> >>
> >> > (HIM)
> >> > Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
> >> >
> >> > I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local hardware when
> >> > necessary.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't think it takes the highest level of reading comprehension nor
> >> logic to determine he's talking about buying woodworking stuff, not
> >> his daily groceries.
> >
> > You're inferring something that he did not imply.
>
> No, you're just being argumentative.
>
> According to you, we should assume that people get their fruits and
> vegetables at Woodcraft and the local hardware store.
No assumption needed. Most Americans get their fruits and vegetables at
a retail store.
Your inference was that "retail store" referred _only_ to stores related
in some way to woodworking.
On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:37:50 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:38:04 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Larry Jaques" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:30:39 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>>> Gentlemen, gentlemen!!
>>>>>> Check this book out at your library and read just the first chapter.
>>>>
>>>> OK, I'm game. Why just the first chapter?
>>
>> You didn't answer this one.
> Ah, the first chapter only question. It occurs to me that the individuals
>involved aren't the sort who might be willing to slog through the rest of
>the
>tome. (interesting how closely the spelling is to "tomb".)
Mmm, hmm. That bad, eh?
>But they need only the first chapter to discover that semantics often
>determine one's whole way of thinking and that disagreements often arise
>when someone has not the lexical dexterity to phrase his/her opinion
>precisely as required for clear understanding or the recipient of an opinion
>lacks the vocabulary to accurately interpret what was intended.
They's a passel of boaf dem types herebouts.
>On the other hand, one or the other of the fine gentlemen might be a bit of
>a pedant.
>Or maybe someone pissed in their Cheerios.
Or C) Both of the Above.
--
If you're looking for the key to the Universe,
I've got some good news and some bad news.
The bad news: There is no key to the Universe.
The good news: It was never locked.
--Swami Beyondananda
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On 10/23/10 4:29 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> > In article<[email protected]>,
> > [email protected] says...
> >>
> >> On 10/23/10 1:02 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >>> In article<[email protected]>,
> >>> [email protected] says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/23/10 11:41 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >>>>> In article<[email protected]>,
> >>>>> [email protected] says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
> >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do try to follow the thread--he said that he doesn't go into _any_
> >>>>> retail stores.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Do try to put in in context.
> >>>>
> >>>> >> (YOU)
> >>>> >> Next time you're in Woodcraft.....
> >>>> >>
> >>>> > (HIM)
> >>>> > Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local hardware when
> >>>> > necessary.
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think it takes the highest level of reading comprehension nor
> >>>> logic to determine he's talking about buying woodworking stuff, not
> >>>> his daily groceries.
> >>>
> >>> You're inferring something that he did not imply.
> >>
> >> No, you're just being argumentative.
> >>
> >> According to you, we should assume that people get their fruits and
> >> vegetables at Woodcraft and the local hardware store.
> >
> > No assumption needed. Most Americans get their fruits and vegetables at
> > a retail store.
> >
> > Your inference was that "retail store" referred _only_ to stores related
> > in some way to woodworking.
> >
>
> Bullshit and you know it.
> But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.
Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody steal
your life or something?
In article <481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>
> On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high friction
> > material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a piece,
> > letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the piece
> > down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
>
> The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
> happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. Part of
skill comes in not releasing pressure.
> I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.
Which only works on an edge.
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> "J. Clarke" wrote:
>
> > Lew, do you have multiple personality disorder? You're usually
> > pretty
> > sensible, but right now you're the same sanctimonious twit we saw in
> > the
> > Abby Sunderland thread.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> When I get bored or things are a little slow on the wrec,
> I like to play a little game I call, "Me Pavlov, You dog".
>
> If nothing else, it generates a little activity on the wrec.
>
> You never know when I'm going to play this little game with you:
> however,
> I must complement you for your ability to fulfill your part in our
> little game
> without the necessity of a script.
>
> Pavlov would have been proud.
>
> The game is now over until the next time.
I see. So you're basically a child who likes to stir up anthills. When
you grow up, have a third party let me know and I'll let you out of the
killfile again.
In article <8df5752b-0477-433b-89cd-
[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> On Oct 24, 12:40 pm, "Edward Hennessey" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > In article <481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
> > > 26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
> >
> > >> On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >> > That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
> > >> > friction
> > >> > material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
> > >> > piece,
> > >> > letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
> > >> > piece
> > >> > down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
> >
> > >> The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
> > >> happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
> >
> > > The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. Part
> > > of
> > > skill comes in not releasing pressure.
> >
> > >> I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.
> >
> > > Which only works on an edge.
> >
> > Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
> > gripper. Also,
> > the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
> > materials for the
> > same purpose.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Edward Hennessey- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
> safe distance from the blade.
Then you aren't the target audience, so don't buy it.
> What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
> fingers?
Well, I dunno about you but I find them useful things to have.
> A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
> overboard, and you might as well not use a
> tablesaw at all.
So to you the choices are to use a shopmade pushstick or go overboard?
In article <0649116a-5c2b-44f1-97fd-
[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> On Oct 24, 7:30 pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In article <8df5752b-0477-433b-89cd-
> > [email protected]>, [email protected]
> > says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 24, 12:40 pm, "Edward Hennessey" <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >
> > > >news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > > > In article <481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
> > > > > 26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
> >
> > > > >> On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > >> > That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
> > > > >> > friction
> > > > >> > material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
> > > > >> > piece,
> > > > >> > letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
> > > > >> > piece
> > > > >> > down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
> >
> > > > >> The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
> > > > >> happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
> >
> > > > > The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. Part
> > > > > of
> > > > > skill comes in not releasing pressure.
> >
> > > > >> I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.
> >
> > > > > Which only works on an edge.
> >
> > > > Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
> > > > gripper. Also,
> > > > the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
> > > > materials for the
> > > > same purpose.
> >
> > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > Edward Hennessey- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
> > > safe distance from the blade.
> >
> > Then you aren't the target audience, so don't buy it.
> >
> > > What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
> > > fingers?
> >
> > Well, I dunno about you but I find them useful things to have.
>
> Been playing music for over 30 years. Fingers are *very*
> useful for that.
>
> > > A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
> > > overboard, and you might as well not use a
> > > tablesaw at all.
> >
> > So to you the choices are to use a shopmade pushstick or go overboard?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Or keep your machine tuned up and pay attention.
>
> Why just *one* shopmade pushstick?
Wouldn't more than one be going overboard?
And why is it so horrible to use a store-bought push stick instead of
making one?
Quite frankly, you're starting to come across as a loon.
They sell lemons at Harbor Freight
"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
--
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"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
>
> "Four Fingers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also
>> has it.
>> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=
>> 1
>>
>> Opinions?
>
>
> Not a solution looking for a problem, these things are great and as
> others have said, get a pair. They come with a jack leg that will
> support the gripper when cutting narrow stock. This prevents the
> pusher from tilting. It is handy to have one ready with the jack leg
> adjustment when you are in a ripping production mode and you stock is
> narrower than the gripper.
>
>
>
As the others have said "get two". I was lucky enough to find two at a
garage sale for a great price, but I was planning on getting a pair
anyway. They work every bit as well as advertised.
Steve
"J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
> 26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>>
>> On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has high
>> > friction
>> > material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of a
>> > piece,
>> > letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold the
>> > piece
>> > down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
>>
>> The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
>> happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
>
> The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. Part
> of
> skill comes in not releasing pressure.
>
>> I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft end.
>
> Which only works on an edge.
>
Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
gripper. Also,
the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contoured
materials for the
same purpose.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
On Oct 22, 12:41=A0am, "Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett"
>
> > "Four Fingers" wrote:
>
> >> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley
> >> also has
> >> it.
> >>http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=3D49712&cat=3D1,240,45884&=
ap=3D1
>
> >> Opinions?
> > ---------------------------------
>
> I responded:
>
> > If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, why not?
>
> > Otherwise, why bother?
>
> ------------------------------------
> Further thoughts:
>
> Whack up a 2x6x96 construction timber into 8-10 equal pieces, then cut
> back on each side to provide a "hook" at the end and you suddenly have
> 8-10 double sided push blocks.
>
> Add a feather board(s) as required.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Certainly not the money still in my wallet.
>
> Lew
I'm with you Lew. Just another fancy gadget.
On Oct 26, 11:30=A0pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <0649116a-5c2b-44f1-97fd-
> [email protected]>, [email protected]
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 7:30=A0pm, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > In article <8df5752b-0477-433b-89cd-
> > > [email protected]>, [email protected]
> > > says...
>
> > > > On Oct 24, 12:40=A0pm, "Edward =A0Hennessey" <haloOUTzzyzxh...@yaho=
o.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:[email protected]...
>
> > > > > > In article <481ca263-fc4c-4a96-a430-1de4b70541f3@
> > > > > > 26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>, [email protected] says...
>
> > > > > >> On Oct 22, 6:39 am, "J. Clarke" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > That's fine for pushing from an edge. The grr-ripper has hig=
h
> > > > > >> > friction
> > > > > >> > material on it and no hook so it can push from the center of=
a
> > > > > >> > piece,
> > > > > >> > letting you (a) apply pressure toward the fence and (b) hold=
the
> > > > > >> > piece
> > > > > >> > down while not having your hand anywhere near the blade.
>
> > > > > >> The second you release pressure, for whatever reason, what
> > > > > >> happens to the piece of wood between the blade and the fence?
>
> > > > > > The same thing that always happens when you release pressure. =
=A0Part
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > skill comes in not releasing pressure.
>
> > > > > >> I have more trust in a traditional push shoe with a hooked aft=
end.
>
> > > > > > Which only works on an edge.
>
> > > > > Right. Conveying a long board into a cut is an advantage for the
> > > > > gripper. Also,
> > > > > the conformable bottom on the tool allows a better hold of contou=
red
> > > > > materials for the
> > > > > same purpose.
>
> > > > > Regards,
>
> > > > > Edward Hennessey- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > When feeding a long board, my hands are already a
> > > > safe distance from the blade.
>
> > > Then you aren't the target audience, so don't buy it.
>
> > > > What exactly is the obsession with not sawing off
> > > > fingers?
>
> > > Well, I dunno about you but I find them useful things to have.
>
> > Been playing music for over 30 years. =A0Fingers are *very*
> > useful for that.
>
> > > > A bit of caution is a good thing, but go
> > > > overboard, and you might as well not use a
> > > > tablesaw at all.
>
> > > So to you the choices are to use a shopmade pushstick or go overboard=
?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Or keep your machine tuned up and pay attention.
>
> > Why just *one* shopmade pushstick?
>
> Wouldn't more than one be going overboard?
>
> And why is it so horrible to use a store-bought push stick instead of
> making one?
>
> Quite frankly, you're starting to come across as a loon.- Hide quoted tex=
t -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I've been trying to come across as cheap.
On 10/20/2010 7:48 PM, Four Fingers wrote:
> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
> it.
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>
> Opinions?
Buy two.
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To reply, eat the taco.
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On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
>> ---------------------------------
>> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
>
> Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
>
They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
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On 10/23/10 11:41 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
>>>
>>> Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
>>>
>>
>> They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
>
> Do try to follow the thread--he said that he doesn't go into _any_
> retail stores.
>
Do try to put in in context.
>> (YOU)
>> Next time you're in Woodcraft.....
>>
> (HIM)
> Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
>
> I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local hardware when
> necessary.
>
I don't think it takes the highest level of reading comprehension nor
logic to determine he's talking about buying woodworking stuff, not
his daily groceries.
wow.
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On 10/23/10 1:02 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> On 10/23/10 11:41 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
>>>
>>> Do try to follow the thread--he said that he doesn't go into _any_
>>> retail stores.
>>>
>>
>> Do try to put in in context.
>>
>> >> (YOU)
>> >> Next time you're in Woodcraft.....
>> >>
>> > (HIM)
>> > Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
>> >
>> > I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local hardware when
>> > necessary.
>> >
>>
>> I don't think it takes the highest level of reading comprehension nor
>> logic to determine he's talking about buying woodworking stuff, not
>> his daily groceries.
>
> You're inferring something that he did not imply.
No, you're just being argumentative.
According to you, we should assume that people get their fruits and
vegetables at Woodcraft and the local hardware store.
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On 10/23/10 4:29 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> On 10/23/10 1:02 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/23/10 11:41 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>>> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do try to follow the thread--he said that he doesn't go into _any_
>>>>> retail stores.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do try to put in in context.
>>>>
>>>> >> (YOU)
>>>> >> Next time you're in Woodcraft.....
>>>> >>
>>>> > (HIM)
>>>> > Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
>>>> >
>>>> > I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local hardware when
>>>> > necessary.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it takes the highest level of reading comprehension nor
>>>> logic to determine he's talking about buying woodworking stuff, not
>>>> his daily groceries.
>>>
>>> You're inferring something that he did not imply.
>>
>> No, you're just being argumentative.
>>
>> According to you, we should assume that people get their fruits and
>> vegetables at Woodcraft and the local hardware store.
>
> No assumption needed. Most Americans get their fruits and vegetables at
> a retail store.
>
> Your inference was that "retail store" referred _only_ to stores related
> in some way to woodworking.
>
Bullshit and you know it.
But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.
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On 10/23/10 7:15 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
>>
>> On 10/23/10 4:29 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/23/10 1:02 PM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/23/10 11:41 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>>>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/23/10 4:18 AM, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford a personal shopper.
>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> It's called a telephone, a credit card, and UPS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Must be nice to be able to afford shipping charges on a can of tomatoes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They sell tomatoes at Woodcraft, now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do try to follow the thread--he said that he doesn't go into _any_
>>>>>>> retail stores.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do try to put in in context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> (YOU)
>>>>>> >> Next time you're in Woodcraft.....
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> > (HIM)
>>>>>> > Don't think I've ever been in a Woodcraft.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I try to stay out of retail stores except for my local hardware when
>>>>>> > necessary.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think it takes the highest level of reading comprehension nor
>>>>>> logic to determine he's talking about buying woodworking stuff, not
>>>>>> his daily groceries.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're inferring something that he did not imply.
>>>>
>>>> No, you're just being argumentative.
>>>>
>>>> According to you, we should assume that people get their fruits and
>>>> vegetables at Woodcraft and the local hardware store.
>>>
>>> No assumption needed. Most Americans get their fruits and vegetables at
>>> a retail store.
>>>
>>> Your inference was that "retail store" referred _only_ to stores related
>>> in some way to woodworking.
>>>
>>
>> Bullshit and you know it.
>> But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.
>
> Why are you so determined to pick a fight over this? Did somebody steal
> your life or something?
>
Now, you're projecting. You obviously just want the last word.
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"Lew Hodgett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "J. Clarke" wrote:
>
>> Lew, do you have multiple personality disorder? You're usually pretty
>> sensible, but right now you're the same sanctimonious twit we saw in the
>> Abby Sunderland thread.
>
> ----------------------------------------
> When I get bored or things are a little slow on the wrec,
> I like to play a little game I call, "Me Pavlov, You dog".
Really? You've been doing a lot of barking. Did Pavlov Bark?
On 10/24/2010 3:23 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
> On Oct 22, 12:41 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote:
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Certainly not the money still in my wallet.
>>
>> Lew
>
> I'm with you Lew. Just another fancy gadget.
Easy to say that if you've never used them.
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On 10/24/10 3:57 PM, Steve Turner wrote:
> On 10/24/2010 3:23 PM, Hoosierpopi wrote:
>> On Oct 22, 12:41 am, "Lew Hodgett"<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> What am I missing?
>>>
>>> Certainly not the money still in my wallet.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>
>> I'm with you Lew. Just another fancy gadget.
>
> Easy to say that if you've never used them.
>
And what's wrong with a fancy gadget? :-)
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"Four Fingers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley
> also has
> it.
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>
> Opinions?
The reviews on Amazon glow. Other information--including manuals--are
available on www.microjig.com,
the manufacturer. eBay offers the best prices, including the pairs
that appear to be optimal. Not cheap but
what does your first bloodletting cost?
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:48:00 GMT, Four Fingers <[email protected]> wrote:
>Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
>it.
>http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>
>Opinions?
I guess my opinion is somewhere in between the rest. My opinion is
this is a good safety accessory for a pretty high price.
You can make suitable safety accessories yourself for little cost and
some time, or you can purchase them. Your choice. If you decide to
purchase, the Grr-ripper is the best I've seen.
I made my own before the Grr-ripper became available, and I am
satisfied I am operating safely. If I had to choose today, I'd do the
same, thinking my time is hobby time and making my own is worth it
because I enjoy doing it.
Others feel their time is more valuably spent on more "productive"
work. Which I believe is reasonable point of view as well. Just not
for me.
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 22:36:11 -0500, Steve Turner
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 10/20/2010 7:48 PM, Four Fingers wrote:
>> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
>> it.
>> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>>
>> Opinions?
>
>Buy two.
Agreed
Mike M
"Four Fingers" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Saw the grr-ripper plastic pusher / holder at a show. Lee valley also has
> it.
> http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=49712&cat=1,240,45884&ap=1
>
> Opinions?
Not a solution looking for a problem, these things are great and as others
have said, get a pair. They come with a jack leg that will support the
gripper when cutting narrow stock. This prevents the pusher from tilting.
It is handy to have one ready with the jack leg adjustment when you are in a
ripping production mode and you stock is narrower than the gripper.
Wow! Still sore.
"-MIKE-" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Bullshit and you know it.
But go on and keep arguing if it boosts your self esteem.