RH

"Rob H."

21/10/2010 6:09 AM

What is it? Set 359

Once again I need some help with two them:

http://55tools.blogspot.com/


Rob


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GW

"George W Frost"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 12:01 AM


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> Rob

2065: is an early exercise machine

2066: is a set of gold scale weights

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 7:29 AM


> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2065 looks like a grip-strength scale.

2070 appears to be a 19th century "Junior Field Explorer's specimen
collection and examination kit -- including spike-tipped walking stick for
killing larger species. Each kit includes compass, field microscope,
chloroform bottle for killing insects, and spike-tipped walking stick for
killing large mammals, including marauding Indians."

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 3:59 PM

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> Also, no one has yet given the right
> use for the spike on the end.
>

I think it was for turning over stones without risking one's fingers.

LLoyd

LE

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 5:52 PM

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> I'm sure it could be used for turning over stones but that was not the
> purpose stated by the owner of it.
>

AHH~! Looking back, the diameter of the "accessories" and the top of the
walking stick is near the same.

I think it was meant to be plunged into the ground to serve as a monopod
"workbench" for the compass, microscope, jars, etc.

LLoyd

Dn

"Dennis"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 8:14 PM


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2069 Transmultor for a flux capacitor.

ww

whit3rd

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 3:31 PM

2065: a portable weighing machine, probably used with a cloth sling;
perhaps
for weighing infants or suckling pigs?

2066: some kinds of chamfer or countersink tool bits take a
screw-on pilot to center them in a hole; this could be a set of such
pilots, organized by hole size. Similar pilot screw-ons are used
with woodwork router bits (but that's less likely).

ww

willshak

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 11:11 AM

Dennis wrote the following:
> "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>> Once again I need some help with two them:
>>
>> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>
>
> 2069 Transmultor for a flux capacitor.

Wrong! It is a pattern for making crop circles. The pattern is placed in
the alien's crop circle maker in their spaceship which them makes the
crop circle in the field. The size of the crop circle is adjusted by
raising or lowering the altitude of the alien spaceship.

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

kk

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 3:40 AM

On Oct 21, 12:09=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Once again I need some help with two them:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

2065. Hand grip strength meter.
Karl

AT

"Alexander Thesoso"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 6:18 AM


2066 Set of gram weights. Used with a balance. Intended to make it
unnecessary to do arithmetic. Guess: For weighing gold dust.

2069 Reflecting telescope mirror blank.

2070 Field biologist's kit. Aid in examining the icky things a field
biologist cares about.


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>
> Rob

SM

"Stormin Mormon"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 10:28 AM

2065 looks like a binocular astrolabe. Designed for astronomers who
like to lay down on the job.
2066. The larger image is about 1/8 inch larger. Not much help. Looks
like a weight set.
2067. At first glance, it's a fire department spanner, for tightening
hoses. At second glance, I'm really not sure.
2068. It would not be honorable of me to comment. Thanks for the photo
credit.
2069. No clue.
2070. No clue. Maybe a rain gage?

--
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"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 4:41 PM

> 2070 Field biologist's kit. Aid in examining the icky things a field
> biologist cares about.


Correct, although it wasn't described as being used by a biologist, a
different but related word was used. Also, no one has yet given the right
use for the spike on the end.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 4:46 PM


> 2067. At first glance, it's a fire department spanner, for tightening
> hoses.


Yes, it can be used as a spanner but there is a second use for it, for which
the other parts come into play.


Rob

PK

"Phil Kangas"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 4:51 PM


"Rob H." <> wrote in message >
>> 2067. At first glance, it's a fire department spanner,
>> for tightening
>> hoses.
>
>
> Yes, it can be used as a spanner but there is a second use
> for it, for which the other parts come into play.
>
>
> Rob
>
How about shutting off the flow in a hose line? Typical for
wildland
hose. phil

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 6:35 PM


"Phil Kangas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Rob H." <> wrote in message >
>>> 2067. At first glance, it's a fire department spanner, for tightening
>>> hoses.
>>
>>
>> Yes, it can be used as a spanner but there is a second use for it, for
>> which the other parts come into play.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> How about shutting off the flow in a hose line? Typical for wildland
> hose. phil
>


Correct, it's a hose clamp.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 6:37 PM


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "Rob H." <[email protected]> fired this volley in
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>> Also, no one has yet given the right
>> use for the spike on the end.
>>
>
> I think it was for turning over stones without risking one's fingers.
>
> LLoyd


I'm sure it could be used for turning over stones but that was not the
purpose stated by the owner of it.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 6:58 PM


>> I'm sure it could be used for turning over stones but that was not the
>> purpose stated by the owner of it.
>>
>
> AHH~! Looking back, the diameter of the "accessories" and the top of the
> walking stick is near the same.
>
> I think it was meant to be plunged into the ground to serve as a monopod
> "workbench" for the compass, microscope, jars, etc.
>
> LLoyd


That's it!

LD

"Lobby Dosser"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 5:25 PM

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Oct 21, 12:09 am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Once again I need some help with two them:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob

2065. Hand grip strength meter.
Karl

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If so, then for finding the relative strength of both hands. Gripped by both
hands at once.

Definitely a medical item.

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 6:52 PM

Rob H. wrote:

> Once again I need some help with two them:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2066 looks like a set of gage pins, although I don't know what the black
dots are for.

2069 I was going to say, "coaster," but with the other images it does kind
of look like a telescope mirror blank, which someone else has already
mentioned.

Cheers!
Rich

RG

Rich Grise

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

21/10/2010 6:56 PM

Rob H. wrote:

>> 2070 Field biologist's kit. Aid in examining the icky things a field
>> biologist cares about.
>
>
> Correct, although it wasn't described as being used by a biologist, a
> different but related word was used. Also, no one has yet given the right
> use for the spike on the end.
>
Harpoon?

Thanks,
Rich

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 2:44 AM

In article <[email protected]>, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>Once again I need some help with two them:
>
>http://55tools.blogspot.com/

2066 -- weights for a laboratory balance. Weight of each in grams is stamped
next to the hole the weight fits into.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 6:47 AM

>> Correct, although it wasn't described as being used by a biologist, a
>> different but related word was used. Also, no one has yet given the
>> right
>> use for the spike on the end.
>
> Well ... I just got through posting my answers with the word
> "naturalist", FWIW. as for the spike -- it might be for capturing
> certain kinds of specimens -- perhaps frogs or tadpoles?


That's the word that I was looking for, it was described as a naturalist's
cane. Not sure if you saw the other post where I replied to someone who
correctly explained that the spike was to be stuck into the ground so the
cane would make a stand for the microscope.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 6:54 AM

> 2066: some kinds of chamfer or countersink tool bits take a
> screw-on pilot to center them in a hole; this could be a set of such
> pilots, organized by hole size. Similar pilot screw-ons are used
> with woodwork router bits (but that's less likely).


Sounds like a good possibility based on some information that I just
received from the owner of this set, he said that the numbers do not
correspond to their weight, he weighed a few of them and here are the
results: #35 = 30.4g...#40 = 41.2g...&...#45 = 50.7g.

Also he said that the darkened area on the case is oily and has an
industrial odor like an old machine shop.


Rob

Mm

Mouse

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 8:11 AM

On 10/22/2010 6:54 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> 2066: some kinds of chamfer or countersink tool bits take a
>> screw-on pilot to center them in a hole; this could be a set of such
>> pilots, organized by hole size. Similar pilot screw-ons are used
>> with woodwork router bits (but that's less likely).
>
>
> Sounds like a good possibility based on some information that I just
> received from the owner of this set, he said that the numbers do not
> correspond to their weight, he weighed a few of them and here are the
> results: #35 = 30.4g...#40 = 41.2g...&...#45 = 50.7g.
>
> Also he said that the darkened area on the case is oily and has an
> industrial odor like an old machine shop.
>
>
> Rob
>
center finder sounds like a good guess, maybe like this set (2/3 of the
way downb the page) for woodworking:
http://www.woodturningvideosplus.com/faceplates.html

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 9:25 AM

>> Also he said that the darkened area on the case is oily and has an
>> industrial odor like an old machine shop.
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
> center finder sounds like a good guess, maybe like this set (2/3 of the
> way downb the page) for woodworking:
> http://www.woodturningvideosplus.com/faceplates.html
>


Sounds good to me, thanks for the link!


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 5:08 PM

> 2069 Reflecting telescope mirror blank.


I posted this as my answer though I'm not 100% sure about it. The only item
unsolved this week is the bench dog, I thought a woodworker would get this
one but I guess they don't use this type any longer.

http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/10/set-359.html#answers



Rob

Ab

"Artemus"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 8:27 PM


"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > 2069 Reflecting telescope mirror blank.
>
>
> I posted this as my answer though I'm not 100% sure about it. The only item
> unsolved this week is the bench dog, I thought a woodworker would get this
> one but I guess they don't use this type any longer.
>
> Rob
>
I'm skeptical about these being bench dogs as they would destroy a bench in
no time at all. I'm more inclined to think they were used in timber framing or
a saw mill to hold logs for the axe/adze/saw.
Art

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

23/10/2010 10:06 AM

> I'm skeptical about these being bench dogs as they would destroy a bench
> in
> no time at all. I'm more inclined to think they were used in timber
> framing or
> a saw mill to hold logs for the axe/adze/saw.
> Art

I added the link below to my answer, it shows a similar bench stop:

http://www.mjdtools.com/tools/list_0950/126675.htm

Also, the Dictionary of American Hand Tools has one listed under 'clamp,
bench', they are also called carvers' clamps. As you mention, I'm sure they
would destroy a bench but I guess years ago there were less options for
securing a work piece.


Rob

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

23/10/2010 10:14 AM

> Hmm ... not a constant weight difference for a number change of
> five, so that does make weights pretty unlikely. Even if it were a
> different unit of weight, the step size should be constant.
>
>> Also he said that the darkened area on the case is oily and has an
>> industrial odor like an old machine shop.
>
> Perhaps the smell of cutting oils?
>
> The small diameter of the hole strikes me as a bit too small to
> be strong enough for securing a pilot to a metalworking bit.


I changed my answer for this one, they are listed in the Dictionary of
American Hand Tools as auger bit guides, which are used to keep a bit
centered when enlarging an existing hole, to see a diagram of one in use,
scroll to the bottom of the link below and look on the right page of the
catalog.

http://www.old-woodworking-tools.com/index/pages/050.htm

JB

J Burns

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

23/10/2010 12:42 PM

On 10/23/10 10:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>> I'm skeptical about these being bench dogs as they would destroy a
>> bench in
>> no time at all. I'm more inclined to think they were used in timber
>> framing or
>> a saw mill to hold logs for the axe/adze/saw.
>> Art
>
> I added the link below to my answer, it shows a similar bench stop:
>
> http://www.mjdtools.com/tools/list_0950/126675.htm
>
> Also, the Dictionary of American Hand Tools has one listed under 'clamp,
> bench', they are also called carvers' clamps. As you mention, I'm sure
> they would destroy a bench but I guess years ago there were less options
> for securing a work piece.
>
>
> Rob
The points went into holes in the bench. Maybe they were points to mark
good places to drill holes.

RH

"Rob H."

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

23/10/2010 7:44 PM


"J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 10/23/10 10:06 AM, Rob H. wrote:
>>> I'm skeptical about these being bench dogs as they would destroy a
>>> bench in
>>> no time at all. I'm more inclined to think they were used in timber
>>> framing or
>>> a saw mill to hold logs for the axe/adze/saw.
>>> Art
>>
>> I added the link below to my answer, it shows a similar bench stop:
>>
>> http://www.mjdtools.com/tools/list_0950/126675.htm
>>
>> Also, the Dictionary of American Hand Tools has one listed under 'clamp,
>> bench', they are also called carvers' clamps. As you mention, I'm sure
>> they would destroy a bench but I guess years ago there were less options
>> for securing a work piece.
>>
>>
>> Rob
> The points went into holes in the bench. Maybe they were points to mark
> good places to drill holes.


That makes sense, if they always used the same holes then the bench would
last longer.


Rob

DN

"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 2:29 AM

On 2010-10-21, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Once again I need some help with two them:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/

Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking as always.

2065) An exerciser, designed to measure the grip strength.

However -- it is necessary to remove the screw shown in the back
view, disengate the rack gear from the pinion, and re-orient the
pointer to 0 before replacing the screw.

65 kg takes us up to about 143.3 lbs, FWIW.

From the symbol stamped into the back of the scale plate, I
suspect that it was designed and sold as a medical device.

2066) Hmm ... a set of weights for some form of balance -- with no
provisions for multiple weights to add up to values. The single
hole in each -- all apparently the same size, suggests that it
goes on a pin to precisely locate it.

I will guess that the weights range from 1 gm to 50 gm in steps
of one. It may be some other units instead. If I could tell
which coin is there in the hole above 49 to serve as a size
reference, I might change my units. It looks about the size of
a US dime -- but given the limitations imposed by the jpeg
compression, it could be a British coin just as easily, or one
from elsewhere.

2067) something intended to clamp and lock a flat thing -- perhaps a
tie-down strap for shipping -- between the shorter bottom piece
and the middle handle.

It also looks as though it could serve as a bottle opener for
the crimped-on caps once common on soda or beer bottles.

2068) Looks as though the two right-hand points are intended to drive
into the end-grain of wood or some other material, and the
flattened blade on the other end hooks into some kind of lifting
device.

There would probably be another -- a mirror image of it -- for
the other end of the material being lifted.

2069) The pattern looks purely decorative, and the size suggests that
it likely serves as a coaster for a drinking glass.

2070) The tweezers, and magnifying devices (including what looks like
a field microscope) suggest a naturalist, with a primary
interest in insects. The compass in the lid of one cylindrical
container suggests that he is expected to work in the field, and
keep records of where the finds were located.

Now to see what others have suggested.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 2:33 AM

On 2010-10-21, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 2070 Field biologist's kit. Aid in examining the icky things a field
>> biologist cares about.
>
>
> Correct, although it wasn't described as being used by a biologist, a
> different but related word was used. Also, no one has yet given the right
> use for the spike on the end.

Well ... I just got through posting my answers with the word
"naturalist", FWIW. as for the spike -- it might be for capturing
certain kinds of specimens -- perhaps frogs or tadpoles?

Enjoy,
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in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

22/10/2010 2:36 AM

On 2010-10-21, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> 2067. At first glance, it's a fire department spanner, for tightening
>> hoses.
>
>
> Yes, it can be used as a spanner but there is a second use for it, for which
> the other parts come into play.

If the "fire department" part above is correct, then I would
suggest that it is for shutting off the flow of a flat canvas fire hose.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

23/10/2010 4:00 AM

On 2010-10-22, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Correct, although it wasn't described as being used by a biologist, a
>>> different but related word was used. Also, no one has yet given the
>>> right
>>> use for the spike on the end.
>>
>> Well ... I just got through posting my answers with the word
>> "naturalist", FWIW. as for the spike -- it might be for capturing
>> certain kinds of specimens -- perhaps frogs or tadpoles?
>
>
> That's the word that I was looking for, it was described as a naturalist's
> cane. Not sure if you saw the other post where I replied to someone who
> correctly explained that the spike was to be stuck into the ground so the
> cane would make a stand for the microscope.

I saw it -- after the posting above. :-)

How tall was the cane exclusive of the spike? It strikes me
that it would require bending over an uncomfortable amount to use it as
a microscope stand. (Now -- it might be possible to stick it into a
tree truck horizontally at a convenient height -- but then the objects
being studied would be likely to fall off.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols"

in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

23/10/2010 4:04 AM

On 2010-10-22, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 2066: some kinds of chamfer or countersink tool bits take a
>> screw-on pilot to center them in a hole; this could be a set of such
>> pilots, organized by hole size. Similar pilot screw-ons are used
>> with woodwork router bits (but that's less likely).
>
>
> Sounds like a good possibility based on some information that I just
> received from the owner of this set, he said that the numbers do not
> correspond to their weight, he weighed a few of them and here are the
> results: #35 = 30.4g...#40 = 41.2g...&...#45 = 50.7g.

Hmm ... not a constant weight difference for a number change of
five, so that does make weights pretty unlikely. Even if it were a
different unit of weight, the step size should be constant.

> Also he said that the darkened area on the case is oily and has an
> industrial odor like an old machine shop.

Perhaps the smell of cutting oils?

The small diameter of the hole strikes me as a bit too small to
be strong enough for securing a pilot to a metalworking bit.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

23/10/2010 4:10 AM

On 2010-10-22, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 2069 Reflecting telescope mirror blank.
>
>
> I posted this as my answer though I'm not 100% sure about it. The only item
> unsolved this week is the bench dog, I thought a woodworker would get this
> one but I guess they don't use this type any longer.
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/10/set-359.html#answers

Perhaps because this kind of dog would tend to tear up the
workbench surface over time -- and woodworkers tend to buy very fancy
(and pretty) workbenches these days. :-)

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in reply to "Rob H." on 21/10/2010 6:09 AM

24/10/2010 2:30 AM

On 2010-10-23, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hmm ... not a constant weight difference for a number change of
>> five, so that does make weights pretty unlikely. Even if it were a
>> different unit of weight, the step size should be constant.
>>
>>> Also he said that the darkened area on the case is oily and has an
>>> industrial odor like an old machine shop.
>>
>> Perhaps the smell of cutting oils?
>>
>> The small diameter of the hole strikes me as a bit too small to
>> be strong enough for securing a pilot to a metalworking bit.
>
>
> I changed my answer for this one, they are listed in the Dictionary of
> American Hand Tools as auger bit guides, which are used to keep a bit
> centered when enlarging an existing hole, to see a diagram of one in use,
> scroll to the bottom of the link below and look on the right page of the
> catalog.
>
> http://www.old-woodworking-tools.com/index/pages/050.htm

O.K. This makes sense -- and explains the barrel shape. It
looks as though your puzzle is a more complete set than they show in the
catalog.

Thanks,
DoN.

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