In article <[email protected]>, tm
<[email protected]> wrote:
> FYI, someone calling themself Charles Sheller has sent csmgs for
> alt.woodworking, alt.woodworking.marketplace and alt.woodworking.plans.
>
> Nothing about all-ages, tho.
The neighborhood kook is continuing its attack.
In article <[email protected]>, Woodchuck Bill
<[email protected]> wrote:
> They appear to be legit. This can be a good thing. If Susan and Vito ever
> really submit a multiple group reorganization, the rebuttle from NAN would
> be "There's already an alt.* group like that". If the soft wreck proponents
> were behind these three new groups, the charters would probably be much
> more restrictive and preachy. If the kook(s) was/were behind them, there
> would probably be a more ridiculous/crude element to the charters.
There's a "Charles Sheller" listing in the vote result for
soc.religion.satanism and rec.woodworking.all-ages. Voted yes on both.
You got one too huh?
Rob
--
http://www.robswoodworking.com
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in message
news:271020042302286068%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>, tm
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > FYI, someone calling themself Charles Sheller has sent csmgs for
> > alt.woodworking, alt.woodworking.marketplace and alt.woodworking.plans.
> >
> > Nothing about all-ages, tho.
>
> The neighborhood kook is continuing its attack.
tm <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> FYI, someone calling themself Charles Sheller has sent csmgs for
> alt.woodworking, alt.woodworking.marketplace and
> alt.woodworking.plans.
>
> Nothing about all-ages, tho.
Thanks for the heads up. They appear to have been legitimately created by
the admin of a small NSP..probably someone following the discussion who
wanted to beat Susan and Vito to the punch, and shoot down their chances
for proposing a reorganization of rec.woodworking. I don't see any
connection to the soft wreck proponents. The charters are too loose, and
there is no mention of "decency" or foul language. The alt.* hierarchy does
not require a vote, unlike the Big-8.
From the control messages..
CHARTER: alt.woodworking
This is a general woodworking forum. Woodworking discussion of any type
is encouraged, with the exception of any promotional material for sale,
auction or trade. No advertising of any kind is permitted. Binary
postings other than digital signatures are not permitted.
CHARTER: alt.woodworking.marketplace
This forum is a marketplace for items related to woodworking. You are
permitted to list items for sale [FS], trade [FT], or want-to-buy [WTB].
Pointers to web auctions [FA] for products of interest to woodworkers
may also be posted here. These postings must be restricted to the
private sale, trade, or auction of personally owned items. Commercial
entities or dealers may not list items, services, or promotional
material of any kind to this newsgroup. Binary postings other than
digital signatures are not permitted.
CHARTER: alt.woodworking.plans
This forum was created for woodworkers to post, archive, and discuss
free woodworking plans and ideas for projects. No advertising or
promotional material of any kind is permitted. You may not sell or
solicit plans for money here. Binary postings other than digital
signatures are not permitted.
--
Bill
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in
news:271020042302286068%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca:
>> FYI, someone calling themself Charles Sheller has sent csmgs for
>> alt.woodworking, alt.woodworking.marketplace and alt.woodworking.plans.
>>
>> Nothing about all-ages, tho.
>
> The neighborhood kook is continuing its attack.
They appear to be legit. This can be a good thing. If Susan and Vito ever
really submit a multiple group reorganization, the rebuttle from NAN would
be "There's already an alt.* group like that". If the soft wreck proponents
were behind these three new groups, the charters would probably be much
more restrictive and preachy. If the kook(s) was/were behind them, there
would probably be a more ridiculous/crude element to the charters.
Not to worry. Propagation of alt.* groups is poor, compared to Big-8
groups.
--
Bill
Dave Balderstone <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca> wrote in
news:281020041238016334%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_S.balderstone.ca:
>> They appear to be legit. This can be a good thing. If Susan and Vito
>> ever really submit a multiple group reorganization, the rebuttle from
>> NAN would be "There's already an alt.* group like that". If the soft
>> wreck proponents were behind these three new groups, the charters
>> would probably be much more restrictive and preachy. If the kook(s)
>> was/were behind them, there would probably be a more ridiculous/crude
>> element to the charters.
>
> There's a "Charles Sheller" listing in the vote result for
> soc.religion.satanism and rec.woodworking.all-ages. Voted yes on both.
Like I said..someone following the discussion. He appears to favor the
creation of new groups :-) I still think if it was meant to be a troll
attack, there would have at least been some kind of an announcement to get
a rise. Let it play out for a while before slamming the guy. The alt.*
hierarchy is unmanaged; anyone with proper access and skill may create new
groups.
If the news.groups kook was able to send out control messages, he probably
would have put them in rec.* instead of alt.*.
--
Bill
tm <[email protected]> wrote in news:tm-
[email protected]:
> He's hijacking proposals under discussion.
None of the new alt.* groups were hijacked, because they were never under
any discussion. The only proposed woodworking group was
rec.woodworking.all-ages, that was in rec.* not alt.*, and there was no
alt.* version of all-ages created. You should be careful what you accuse
people of without proof.
--
Bill
tm <[email protected]> wrote in news:tm-
[email protected]:
> Oh wait. Forget i said that. Have him confused with someone else.
> Nevermind. Carry on.
Sorry for my last post. I hadn't read this one yet when I posted it. :-)
--
Bill
tm wrote:
> Woodchuck Bill wrote:
> > Dave Balderstone wrote
>
> > >> FYI, someone calling themself Charles Sheller has sent csmgs for
> > >> alt.woodworking, alt.woodworking.marketplace and alt.woodworking.plans.
> > >>
> > >> Nothing about all-ages, tho.
> > >
> > > The neighborhood kook is continuing its attack.
> >
> > They appear to be legit.
>
> Well of course they are legit, anyone can send a cmsg in alt. But it's
> probably the same a-hole who's fucking with news.groups now fucking
> with alt.config. He's hijacking proposals under discussion.
Oh wait. Forget i said that. Have him confused with someone else.
Nevermind. Carry on.
Woodchuck Bill wrote:
> Dave Balderstone wrote
> >> FYI, someone calling themself Charles Sheller has sent csmgs for
> >> alt.woodworking, alt.woodworking.marketplace and alt.woodworking.plans.
> >>
> >> Nothing about all-ages, tho.
> >
> > The neighborhood kook is continuing its attack.
>
> They appear to be legit.
Well of course they are legit, anyone can send a cmsg in alt. But it's
probably the same a-hole who's fucking with news.groups now fucking
with alt.config. He's hijacking proposals under discussion.
>This can be a good thing. If Susan and Vito ever
> really submit a multiple group reorganization, the rebuttle from NAN would
> be "There's already an alt.* group like that". If the soft wreck proponents
> were behind these three new groups, the charters would probably be much
> more restrictive and preachy. If the kook(s) was/were behind them, there
> would probably be a more ridiculous/crude element to the charters.
>
> Not to worry. Propagation of alt.* groups is poor, compared to Big-8
> groups.
Depends.