MH

"Mike Hide"

08/08/2003 5:03 AM

How to survive a heart attack

Please pass this along it may save a life.

HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK WHEN ALONE
Please read this then pass it on. It might save someone's life...may be even
your own. A cardiologist says it's the trust...Heart Attack For your
info. If everyone who gets this sends it to 10 people, you can bet that
we'll save at least one life.

Let's say it's 6.15 pm and you're driving home (alone of course), after an
unusually hard day on the job. You're really tired, upset and frustrated.

Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to
radiate out into your arm and up into your jaw. You are only about five
miles from the hospital nearest your home. Unfortunately you don't know if
you'll be able to make it that far.

You have been trained in CPR, but the guy that taught the course did not
tell you how to perform it on yourself.

Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack, without help,
the person whose heart is beating improperly and who begins to feel faint,
has only about 10 seconds left before losing consciousness.

However, these victims can help themselves by coughing repeatedly and very
vigorously. A deep breath should be taken before each cough, and the cough
must be deep and prolonged, as when producing sputum from deep inside the
chest. A breath and a cough must be repeated about every two seconds
without let-up until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be beating
normally again. Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing
movements squeeze the heart and keep the blood circulating. The squeezing
pressure on the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. In this way, heart
attack victims can get to a hospital.


Tell as many other people as possible about this. It could save their
lives.

From Health Cares, Rochester General Hospital via Chapter 240's news letter,
"AND THE BEAT GOES ON..." (reprint from The Mended Hearts, Inc.
publication, Heart Response)


BE A FRIEND AND PLEASE FORWARD THIS ARTICLE TO AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE





--
mike hide
http://members.tripod.com/mikehide2



This topic has 9 replies

EM

Eddie Munster

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 08/08/2003 5:03 AM

09/08/2003 1:28 PM

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/coughcpr.htm

mX

[email protected] (Xane "MegaWolf" T.)

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 08/08/2003 5:03 AM

08/08/2003 6:15 AM

This is false information. Coughing can actually make things worse.
While I realize that this post was made with good intentions, NEVER
believe anything you read on the internet like this. At least, check
it out with snopes.com

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/coughcpr.htm

Gs

"George"

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 08/08/2003 5:03 AM

13/08/2003 11:38 AM

Tunnel vision is common with hypoxia. Ask anyone who ever pulled a g too
many. Some say it's the "light" of the near-death experience.
Nonetheless, something which hasn't been mentioned by all the "experts" in
this thread is http://www.ahealthyme.com/topic/topic100587639 . Something
similar to this or vagal effect of some sort is probably the source of the
cough without turning your head procedure.

Apparently breathing and heartbeat meet somewhere in the brain, eh Charlie?
Use yours to do some research.

"Charlie Spitzer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Godsword" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> > Let me tell you of a true happening. My brother related this to me, my
> > wife, and his wife, several years ago while visiting him.
> >
> > He said that one evening he was sitting in his easy chair, his wife was
> > sitting a few feet away on the sofa doing something. They were alone. He
> > told us that his heart just stopped. One second it was beating and the
> next
> > second it just stopped, didn't make the next beat. He said that he
> breathed
> > out, and could not breath in again. He said that there was no panic,
that
> he
> > was very relaxed, then he said, you know what, I couldn't speak,
couldn't
> > call my wife, my vision started narrowing down, (he used his hands to
show
> > us) and when it got down to a small point, my heart suddenly beat again,
> > then my vision snapped back out to full vision and I breathed in.
> Everything
> > was back to normal. Then he said, I never told my wife what happened.
> >
> > I found his story very interesting, and in light of what he told me, it
> > would be impossible to cough to keep the heart beating. I believe the
word
> > of one who has been there and returned over stories like coughing.
> >
> > Since then I have had my heart attack and open heart surgery, like so
many
> > others have had. You are not going to be coughing then either.
> >
> > But how does one know, until they have been told, or have gone through
it
> > themselves? It is difficult to sort out truth from fiction on the
> internet.
> >
> > Jack
>
> umm, your heartbeat doesn't have anything to do with the muscles needed to
> breath.
>
>

Gg

"Godsword"

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 08/08/2003 5:03 AM

13/08/2003 2:10 AM

"Charlie Spitzer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> umm, your heartbeat doesn't have anything to do with the muscles needed to
> breath.
>

Gee Whiz Charlie, I wish that my son had known that. If my son had known
that, then perhaps his heart would not have stopped immediately when he
suddenly didn't have either lung to breath with. (after all, if there is no
connection between the heart and the muscles needed to breath ???) One lung
closed off with cancer and the other blew out like a pin into a balloon. (26
years old) Of course he died!! No lungs, no heart!! Right there on the
spot, with two nurses and a doctor standing right next to him, and every
specialist he needed was in the hospital that morning. Yes, the Lord sent
him back to us. But he was clinically dead for a long time. If you would
like to read HIS Testimony go to
http://www.barr-family.com/godsword/carltes.htm

God Bless you Charlie

Jack


>
> "Godsword" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> > Let me tell you of a true happening. My brother related this to me, my
> > wife, and his wife, several years ago while visiting him.
> >
> > He said that one evening he was sitting in his easy chair, his wife was
> > sitting a few feet away on the sofa doing something. They were alone. He
> > told us that his heart just stopped. One second it was beating and the
> next
> > second it just stopped, didn't make the next beat. He said that he
> breathed
> > out, and could not breath in again. He said that there was no panic,
that
> he
> > was very relaxed, then he said, you know what, I couldn't speak,
couldn't
> > call my wife, my vision started narrowing down, (he used his hands to
show
> > us) and when it got down to a small point, my heart suddenly beat again,
> > then my vision snapped back out to full vision and I breathed in.
> Everything
> > was back to normal. Then he said, I never told my wife what happened.
> >
> > I found his story very interesting, and in light of what he told me, it
> > would be impossible to cough to keep the heart beating. I believe the
word
> > of one who has been there and returned over stories like coughing.
> >
> > Since then I have had my heart attack and open heart surgery, like so
many
> > others have had. You are not going to be coughing then either.
> >
> > But how does one know, until they have been told, or have gone through
it
> > themselves? It is difficult to sort out truth from fiction on the
> internet.
> >
> > Jack
>
>

CS

"Charlie Spitzer"

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 08/08/2003 5:03 AM

12/08/2003 2:31 PM


"Godsword" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> Let me tell you of a true happening. My brother related this to me, my
> wife, and his wife, several years ago while visiting him.
>
> He said that one evening he was sitting in his easy chair, his wife was
> sitting a few feet away on the sofa doing something. They were alone. He
> told us that his heart just stopped. One second it was beating and the
next
> second it just stopped, didn't make the next beat. He said that he
breathed
> out, and could not breath in again. He said that there was no panic, that
he
> was very relaxed, then he said, you know what, I couldn't speak, couldn't
> call my wife, my vision started narrowing down, (he used his hands to show
> us) and when it got down to a small point, my heart suddenly beat again,
> then my vision snapped back out to full vision and I breathed in.
Everything
> was back to normal. Then he said, I never told my wife what happened.
>
> I found his story very interesting, and in light of what he told me, it
> would be impossible to cough to keep the heart beating. I believe the word
> of one who has been there and returned over stories like coughing.
>
> Since then I have had my heart attack and open heart surgery, like so many
> others have had. You are not going to be coughing then either.
>
> But how does one know, until they have been told, or have gone through it
> themselves? It is difficult to sort out truth from fiction on the
internet.
>
> Jack

umm, your heartbeat doesn't have anything to do with the muscles needed to
breath.

Gg

"Godsword"

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 08/08/2003 5:03 AM

08/08/2003 2:18 PM

Hi,
Let me tell you of a true happening. My brother related this to me, my
wife, and his wife, several years ago while visiting him.

He said that one evening he was sitting in his easy chair, his wife was
sitting a few feet away on the sofa doing something. They were alone. He
told us that his heart just stopped. One second it was beating and the next
second it just stopped, didn't make the next beat. He said that he breathed
out, and could not breath in again. He said that there was no panic, that he
was very relaxed, then he said, you know what, I couldn't speak, couldn't
call my wife, my vision started narrowing down, (he used his hands to show
us) and when it got down to a small point, my heart suddenly beat again,
then my vision snapped back out to full vision and I breathed in. Everything
was back to normal. Then he said, I never told my wife what happened.

I found his story very interesting, and in light of what he told me, it
would be impossible to cough to keep the heart beating. I believe the word
of one who has been there and returned over stories like coughing.

Since then I have had my heart attack and open heart surgery, like so many
others have had. You are not going to be coughing then either.

But how does one know, until they have been told, or have gone through it
themselves? It is difficult to sort out truth from fiction on the internet.

Jack


"Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:PaGYa.93383$o%2.42682@sccrnsc02...
> Please pass this along it may save a life.
>
> HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK WHEN ALONE
> Please read this then pass it on. It might save someone's life...may be
even
> your own. A cardiologist says it's the trust...Heart Attack For your
> info. If everyone who gets this sends it to 10 people, you can bet that
> we'll save at least one life.
>
> Let's say it's 6.15 pm and you're driving home (alone of course), after an
> unusually hard day on the job. You're really tired, upset and frustrated.
>
> Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to
> radiate out into your arm and up into your jaw. You are only about five
> miles from the hospital nearest your home. Unfortunately you don't know if
> you'll be able to make it that far.
>
> You have been trained in CPR, but the guy that taught the course did not
> tell you how to perform it on yourself.
>
> Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack, without help,
> the person whose heart is beating improperly and who begins to feel faint,
> has only about 10 seconds left before losing consciousness.
>
> However, these victims can help themselves by coughing repeatedly and very
> vigorously. A deep breath should be taken before each cough, and the cough
> must be deep and prolonged, as when producing sputum from deep inside the
> chest. A breath and a cough must be repeated about every two seconds
> without let-up until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be
beating
> normally again. Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing
> movements squeeze the heart and keep the blood circulating. The squeezing
> pressure on the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. In this way,
heart
> attack victims can get to a hospital.
>
>
> Tell as many other people as possible about this. It could save their
> lives.
>
> From Health Cares, Rochester General Hospital via Chapter 240's news
letter,
> "AND THE BEAT GOES ON..." (reprint from The Mended Hearts, Inc.
> publication, Heart Response)
>
>
> BE A FRIEND AND PLEASE FORWARD THIS ARTICLE TO AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> mike hide
> http://members.tripod.com/mikehide2
>
>
>

LL

"Lawrence L'Hote"

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 08/08/2003 5:03 AM

08/08/2003 3:44 PM


"Godsword" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Since then I have had my heart attack and open heart surgery, like so many
> others have had. You are not going to be coughing then either.
>
> But how does one know, until they have been told, or have gone through it
> themselves? It is difficult to sort out truth from fiction on the
internet.


Prevention. You've heard all this before. Annual doctor visits.
Cholesterol checked. Exercise. Weight normal. If family history merits,
schedule visit with cardiologist recommended by primary care physician.
Adult males, in particular, avoid doctor visits far too often. I'm on
second pacemaker(first one in at age 51), cholesterol in the 150's(thanks to
Lipitor), exercise 1.4 hrs/day and weight going down...never felt this good
in 15 years. Nearly everyone in my family that has died in the last 50
years died of heart disease.

Larry


Wc

"WoodChuck"

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 08/08/2003 5:03 AM

08/08/2003 12:27 PM

Interesting! Back 17 years ago ( wow!!! ) when I took a CPR course I was
taught that when the heart stops, breathing ceases as well. I always
assumed that this was true. I never used CPR and I am not sure I still
remember how, if I needed it.

WoodChuck

"Godsword" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
> Let me tell you of a true happening. My brother related this to me, my
> wife, and his wife, several years ago while visiting him.
>
> He said that one evening he was sitting in his easy chair, his wife was
> sitting a few feet away on the sofa doing something. They were alone. He
> told us that his heart just stopped. One second it was beating and the
next
> second it just stopped, didn't make the next beat. He said that he
breathed
> out, and could not breath in again. He said that there was no panic, that
he
> was very relaxed, then he said, you know what, I couldn't speak, couldn't
> call my wife, my vision started narrowing down, (he used his hands to show
> us) and when it got down to a small point, my heart suddenly beat again,
> then my vision snapped back out to full vision and I breathed in.
Everything
> was back to normal. Then he said, I never told my wife what happened.
>
> I found his story very interesting, and in light of what he told me, it
> would be impossible to cough to keep the heart beating. I believe the word
> of one who has been there and returned over stories like coughing.
>
> Since then I have had my heart attack and open heart surgery, like so many
> others have had. You are not going to be coughing then either.
>
> But how does one know, until they have been told, or have gone through it
> themselves? It is difficult to sort out truth from fiction on the
internet.
>
> Jack
>
>
> "Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:PaGYa.93383$o%2.42682@sccrnsc02...
> > Please pass this along it may save a life.
> >
> > HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK WHEN ALONE
> > Please read this then pass it on. It might save someone's life...may be
> even
> > your own. A cardiologist says it's the trust...Heart Attack For your
> > info. If everyone who gets this sends it to 10 people, you can bet that
> > we'll save at least one life.
> >
> > Let's say it's 6.15 pm and you're driving home (alone of course), after
an
> > unusually hard day on the job. You're really tired, upset and
frustrated.
> >
> > Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to
> > radiate out into your arm and up into your jaw. You are only about five
> > miles from the hospital nearest your home. Unfortunately you don't know
if
> > you'll be able to make it that far.
> >
> > You have been trained in CPR, but the guy that taught the course did not
> > tell you how to perform it on yourself.
> >
> > Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack, without
help,
> > the person whose heart is beating improperly and who begins to feel
faint,
> > has only about 10 seconds left before losing consciousness.
> >
> > However, these victims can help themselves by coughing repeatedly and
very
> > vigorously. A deep breath should be taken before each cough, and the
cough
> > must be deep and prolonged, as when producing sputum from deep inside
the
> > chest. A breath and a cough must be repeated about every two seconds
> > without let-up until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be
> beating
> > normally again. Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing
> > movements squeeze the heart and keep the blood circulating. The
squeezing
> > pressure on the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. In this way,
> heart
> > attack victims can get to a hospital.
> >
> >
> > Tell as many other people as possible about this. It could save their
> > lives.
> >
> > From Health Cares, Rochester General Hospital via Chapter 240's news
> letter,
> > "AND THE BEAT GOES ON..." (reprint from The Mended Hearts, Inc.
> > publication, Heart Response)
> >
> >
> > BE A FRIEND AND PLEASE FORWARD THIS ARTICLE TO AS MANY FRIENDS AS
POSSIBLE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > mike hide
> > http://members.tripod.com/mikehide2
> >
> >
> >
>
>

MH

"Mike Hide"

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 08/08/2003 5:03 AM

09/08/2003 4:11 AM

Now I am confused as to whether it is true or not .

My cousin sent this to me in good faith . He lives in Orpington Kent not far
from the Rochester hospital . I have asked him to call then and find out the
truth .....

I will keep yo all posted of the results.. Sorry for the confusion mjh


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