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Michael Press

09/02/2004 10:26 PM

Woodworking accident survey site


Not sure if others have seen this site....

It's quite sobering to read about the accidents people have had with
their woodworking equipment. Some are due to obvious carelessness
(they admit so), but plenty are kickback-induced contact with blades
or flying lumber.

http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm


Michael


This topic has 24 replies

MH

"Mark Hopkins"

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

11/02/2004 6:23 PM

The Cabal clearly states that credit is only valid for wood only... Now if
you spake the super secret latin phrases whilst working with the wrenches,
make sure that said wrenches have hardwood handles and you MIGHT get some
credit for it. But you gotta use the right phrases....

"Mark and Kim Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hmmmmm. Me being the auto-meckanicing type, I have had my fair share
> of blood letting. Does this mean when I put on my " I ar a wudwrker"
> t-shirt that I will be spared. In other words, do I get credit when I
> wrench?
>

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

11/02/2004 9:59 PM

On 11 Feb 2004 04:37:26 EST, Mark and Kim Smith
<[email protected]> brought forth from the murky depths:

>Hmmmmm. Me being the auto-meckanicing type, I have had my fair share
>of blood letting. Does this mean when I put on my " I ar a wudwrker"
>t-shirt that I will be spared. In other words, do I get credit when I
>wrench?

Yes, credit for bloodletting to the metal gods. There is
absolutely no credit at all for a misspelled tee. You'll
have to cut yourself or get splinters to appease the WW
gods.


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d

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 2:57 PM

Doug Miller wrote:
> Yep, I've seen it. An awful lot of them are stupidity-induced -- take the
> biscuit joiner accidents, for example. I was amazed to see that there is a
> separate category for these -- how on earth can anybody hurt himself with a
> biscuit joiner, for Pete's sakes? Never, *ever* dawned on me that *anyone*
> would be dumb enough to try to hold a piece of wood in one hand while
> operating the biscuit joiner with the other. Until I read the reports. And saw
> that there are *multiple* people that stupid. Sheesh.

It's an intelligence test, they failed. Now if we can just get them to
hold the wood between their legs, we can stop some of the related
probelms.
Dave in Fairfax
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d

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 8:49 PM

> Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
> Whoops, now that you've said that, guess what's going to happen!

You're going to be reminded not to post in HTML? <G>
Dave in Fairfax
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cb

charlie b

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

11/02/2004 10:49 AM

Subw00er wrote:
>
> As an entry-level woodworker, I"m wondering if its possible to work in a
> shop for 25 years and NOT get hurt!? :)
>

Every occupaption/profession has something that can hurt you.

I worked with (and often in spite of) computers - what could
injure you there? You sit and type, look at the screen and
print or plot (remember plotters - the drum and pen versions?).

Well, before the days of ergonomic chairs, spending 4 - 6 hour
stretches each 10-12 hour work day for 6 or 7 months (during
what is now called "a mission critical task") in a crappy chair
can really screw up your lower back. Spent 3 extremely boring
months in traction and another couple of months in physical
therapy thanks to a severly herniated disk - from sitting for
extended periods of time in a lousy chair.

And hey, every once in a while a lawyer gets shot.

Me, I know most of my tools, and wood even, can hurt me.
Knowledge IS power.

charlie b

d

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

11/02/2004 11:01 PM

Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
> Hmmmmm. Me being the auto-meckanicing type, I have had my fair share
> of blood letting. Does this mean when I put on my " I ar a wudwrker"
> t-shirt that I will be spared. In other words, do I get credit when I
> wrench?

Nope, as an ex-mechanic I'm here to tell you that fresh sacrifices will
be required on a regular basis.
Dave in Fairfax
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Capital Area Woodturners
http://www.capwoodturners.org/

BH

Brian Henderson

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 7:13 PM

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:39:07 GMT, "Subw00er" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>As an entry-level woodworker, I"m wondering if its possible to work in a
>shop for 25 years and NOT get hurt!? :)

I've been doing it on and off for about 20 years or so and I've yet to
be seriously hurt (ie. nothing that has left a permanent mark). It
isn't difficult to do if you're not in a hurry.

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 4:33 AM

Thanks for posting this, Michael. It ought to be required reading every
couple of months. As I read some of the incidents, I kept thinking "Stupid!"
Then I read the horrible accident where the guy cut wood with unknown metal
in it. It made me stop and think. I don't have a metal detector. I think
I'll get one.

Bob

"Michael Press" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Not sure if others have seen this site....
>
> It's quite sobering to read about the accidents people have had with
> their woodworking equipment. Some are due to obvious carelessness
> (they admit so), but plenty are kickback-induced contact with blades
> or flying lumber.
>
> http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm
>
>
> Michael

Bn

Bridger

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

11/02/2004 1:41 PM

On 11 Feb 2004 04:37:26 EST, Mark and Kim Smith
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Larry Jaques wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:39:07 GMT, "Subw00er" <[email protected]>
>>brought forth from the murky depths:
>>
>>
>>
>>>As an entry-level woodworker, I"m wondering if its possible to work in a
>>>shop for 25 years and NOT get hurt!? :)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>No. The woodworking gods--just like the metalworking and
>>auto-mechanicking gods--all demand sacrifices payable in
>>blood. There are NO exceptions. Those of us who give more
>>frequently in smaller amounts are generally spared the
>>larger and nastier donations of full/partial appendages.
>>
>>So buy a box or 3 of bandaids (my preference is the generic
>>flexible cloth type at half the J&J price) and give freely
>>and often. You'll be glad you did!
>>
>>
>>
>
>Hmmmmm. Me being the auto-meckanicing type, I have had my fair share
>of blood letting. Does this mean when I put on my " I ar a wudwrker"
>t-shirt that I will be spared. In other words, do I get credit when I
>wrench?



nope. the woodworking gods and the car gods don't timeshare.

MR

Mark

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

11/02/2004 5:42 PM



Layne wrote:

> Yes I've read this site. Every time someone posts an accident here,
> like one recently I ask them to post on this site to share their
> experiences. Both rank amatures and seasoned vets have accidents.



Once again, there are no such things as accidents.



>
> Some of these stories though...you gotta wonder if some people should
> take IQ tests before using machinery....like the one where the college
> student, impatient for the BS to stop, decided to grab the blade....
> *sigh*


Cluelessness has it's own rewards.





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Mark Twain)

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(Gaz, r.moto)

Sk

"Swingman"

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 9:00 AM

<Layne> wrote in message

> Some of these stories though...you gotta wonder if some people should
> take IQ tests before using machinery ...

... and start with operation of automobiles.

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sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 4:50 PM

In article <[email protected]>, reply-to, is, disabled, to, trap, spam wrote:
>Doug Miller wrote:
>> Yep, I've seen it. An awful lot of them are stupidity-induced -- take the
>> biscuit joiner accidents, for example. I was amazed to see that there is a
>> separate category for these -- how on earth can anybody hurt himself with a
>> biscuit joiner, for Pete's sakes? Never, *ever* dawned on me that *anyone*
>> would be dumb enough to try to hold a piece of wood in one hand while
>> operating the biscuit joiner with the other. Until I read the reports. And
> saw
>> that there are *multiple* people that stupid. Sheesh.
>
>It's an intelligence test, they failed. Now if we can just get them to
>hold the wood between their legs, we can stop some of the related
>probelms.
>Dave in Fairfax

ROTFL -- but you're absolutely right.

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How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 3:25 PM

I'd like to see a motion sensor that lights up the blade when it is moving.
Then I could train myself like Pavlov's dogs. "Light on - beware!"

<Layne> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

> Some of these stories though...you gotta wonder if some people should
> take IQ tests before using machinery....like the one where the college
> student, impatient for the BS to stop, decided to grab the blade....
> *sigh*

sD

[email protected] (Doug Miller)

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 1:32 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Michael Press <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>Not sure if others have seen this site....
>
>It's quite sobering to read about the accidents people have had with
>their woodworking equipment. Some are due to obvious carelessness
>(they admit so), but plenty are kickback-induced contact with blades
>or flying lumber.
>
> http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm
>
Yep, I've seen it. An awful lot of them are stupidity-induced -- take the
biscuit joiner accidents, for example. I was amazed to see that there is a
separate category for these -- how on earth can anybody hurt himself with a
biscuit joiner, for Pete's sakes? Never, *ever* dawned on me that *anyone*
would be dumb enough to try to hold a piece of wood in one hand while
operating the biscuit joiner with the other. Until I read the reports. And saw
that there are *multiple* people that stupid. Sheesh.

--
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

How come we choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America?

Ma

Mark and Kim Smith

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 2:28 PM

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>
>
>>As an entry-level woodworker, I"m wondering if its possible to work in a
>>shop for 25 years and NOT get hurt!? :)
>>
>>
>
>I've been doing it on and off for about 20 years or so and I've yet to
>be seriously hurt (ie. nothing that has left a permanent mark). It
>isn't difficult to do if you're not in a hurry.
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Ma

Mark and Kim Smith

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 3:52 PM

[email protected] wrote:

>>Mark and Kim Smith wrote:
>>Whoops, now that you've said that, guess what's going to happen!
>>
>>
>
>You're going to be reminded not to post in HTML? <G>
>Dave in Fairfax
>

Yeah, my apologies! I clicked too quick!

Ma

Mark and Kim Smith

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

11/02/2004 4:37 AM

Larry Jaques wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:39:07 GMT, "Subw00er" <[email protected]>
>brought forth from the murky depths:
>
>
>
>>As an entry-level woodworker, I"m wondering if its possible to work in a
>>shop for 25 years and NOT get hurt!? :)
>>
>>
>
>No. The woodworking gods--just like the metalworking and
>auto-mechanicking gods--all demand sacrifices payable in
>blood. There are NO exceptions. Those of us who give more
>frequently in smaller amounts are generally spared the
>larger and nastier donations of full/partial appendages.
>
>So buy a box or 3 of bandaids (my preference is the generic
>flexible cloth type at half the J&J price) and give freely
>and often. You'll be glad you did!
>
>
>

Hmmmmm. Me being the auto-meckanicing type, I have had my fair share
of blood letting. Does this mean when I put on my " I ar a wudwrker"
t-shirt that I will be spared. In other words, do I get credit when I
wrench?

Ss

"Subw00er"

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 6:39 AM

As an entry-level woodworker, I"m wondering if its possible to work in a
shop for 25 years and NOT get hurt!? :)


<Layne> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Yes I've read this site. Every time someone posts an accident here,
> like one recently I ask them to post on this site to share their
> experiences. Both rank amatures and seasoned vets have accidents. I
> hope I never have to post on that site. A friend of mine just bought a
> TS and I told him to please read the site before cutting anything on
> his saw.
>
> Some of these stories though...you gotta wonder if some people should
> take IQ tests before using machinery....like the one where the college
> student, impatient for the BS to stop, decided to grab the blade....
> *sigh*
>
> Layne
>
> On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:26:05 -0500, Michael Press
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >Not sure if others have seen this site....
> >
> >It's quite sobering to read about the accidents people have had with
> >their woodworking equipment. Some are due to obvious carelessness
> >(they admit so), but plenty are kickback-induced contact with blades
> >or flying lumber.
> >
> > http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm
> >
> >
> >Michael
>

BD

"Bob Davis"

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 4:38 AM

Its interesting how many people viewed use of a push stick as the panacea
for safety, when they obviously were setting up unsafe cuts. When I bought
my table saw, I quickly became annoyed that no safety or useage instruction
was available. I went to the store and asked for a book that had some good
sections on safety. I'm glad I did. Sometimes I think operating a tablesaw
ought to require a license. I bought a grip-tite setup two weeks ago and
will buy a Gripper next week. These are great tools for dramatically
reducing the risk (coupled with a brain that is engaged).

Bob

"Michael Press" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Not sure if others have seen this site....
>
> It's quite sobering to read about the accidents people have had with
> their woodworking equipment. Some are due to obvious carelessness
> (they admit so), but plenty are kickback-induced contact with blades
> or flying lumber.
>
> http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm
>
>
> Michael

L

Layne <>

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

15/02/2004 2:57 PM

Amen, brother!

Layne

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:00:04 -0600, "Swingman" <[email protected]> wrote:

><Layne> wrote in message
>
>> Some of these stories though...you gotta wonder if some people should
>> take IQ tests before using machinery ...
>
>... and start with operation of automobiles.

L

Layne <>

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

09/02/2004 9:55 PM

Yes I've read this site. Every time someone posts an accident here,
like one recently I ask them to post on this site to share their
experiences. Both rank amatures and seasoned vets have accidents. I
hope I never have to post on that site. A friend of mine just bought a
TS and I told him to please read the site before cutting anything on
his saw.

Some of these stories though...you gotta wonder if some people should
take IQ tests before using machinery....like the one where the college
student, impatient for the BS to stop, decided to grab the blade....
*sigh*

Layne

On Mon, 09 Feb 2004 22:26:05 -0500, Michael Press
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>Not sure if others have seen this site....
>
>It's quite sobering to read about the accidents people have had with
>their woodworking equipment. Some are due to obvious carelessness
>(they admit so), but plenty are kickback-induced contact with blades
>or flying lumber.
>
> http://www.woodworking2.org/AccidentSurvey/search.htm
>
>
>Michael

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 9:08 AM

Dave, that is some DRY humor - but it IS funny!!!


On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 14:57:19 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>Doug Miller wrote:
>> Yep, I've seen it. An awful lot of them are stupidity-induced -- take the
>> biscuit joiner accidents, for example. I was amazed to see that there is a
>> separate category for these -- how on earth can anybody hurt himself with a
>> biscuit joiner, for Pete's sakes? Never, *ever* dawned on me that *anyone*
>> would be dumb enough to try to hold a piece of wood in one hand while
>> operating the biscuit joiner with the other. Until I read the reports. And saw
>> that there are *multiple* people that stupid. Sheesh.
>
>It's an intelligence test, they failed. Now if we can just get them to
>hold the wood between their legs, we can stop some of the related
>probelms.
>Dave in Fairfax

L

Layne <>

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

15/02/2004 2:55 PM

Well, that all depends on what you consider "hurt". So far I haven't
been hurt seriously...well maybe once. I bought a cherry combo plane
only to have one (or both?) of my kittens try out their teeth on the
wooden knob. Now that hurt. :-(

Layne

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:39:07 GMT, "Subw00er" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>As an entry-level woodworker, I"m wondering if its possible to work in a
>shop for 25 years and NOT get hurt!? :)

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to Michael Press on 09/02/2004 10:26 PM

10/02/2004 10:43 PM

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 06:39:07 GMT, "Subw00er" <[email protected]>
brought forth from the murky depths:

>As an entry-level woodworker, I"m wondering if its possible to work in a
>shop for 25 years and NOT get hurt!? :)

No. The woodworking gods--just like the metalworking and
auto-mechanicking gods--all demand sacrifices payable in
blood. There are NO exceptions. Those of us who give more
frequently in smaller amounts are generally spared the
larger and nastier donations of full/partial appendages.

So buy a box or 3 of bandaids (my preference is the generic
flexible cloth type at half the J&J price) and give freely
and often. You'll be glad you did!


--
Impeach 'em ALL!
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http://diversify.com Website Application Programming


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