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"hex"

18/03/2005 9:17 AM

big OOOPS

I am making a Futon sofa/bed
i was routing the 3/4 in deep curved grooves for the roller
mechanism,using a router and a template. the first one on the left
side of the couch went fine the second one on the right went fine or
so i thought. when i placed the two parts with the grooves facing each
other, i was sopposed to have mirror images of the grooves i didnt, I
forgot to flip the template over ARRGH. i dont feel like buying another
8/4 stick of honduran mohogany for 100 dollars and redoing all of the
mortises for the legs, rails and stiles, the only good part is that
the mistake will face the inside of the couch, my only idea for
repairing this is to square out the curved grooves into 2x4 sized
rectangles using a chisel then glue in a appropiate piece from one of
the off cuts, any other suggestions for fixing this?
Thanks


This topic has 10 replies

LH

Lew Hodgett

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 11:29 PM

"hex" wrote:
>I am making a Futon sofa/bed

<snip tho old mirror image mistake>


Think "DUTCHMAN", a name given to inlays.

Use your router to clean things up, save your chisels for squaring up
the corners, if necessary.

Maybe even make the dutchman from a contrasting piece.

HTH

Lew

a

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 9:46 AM

Build a new one...look at it this way...you have half of your second
one done all ready....good luck.
Mike

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"hex"

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 1:04 PM

Yeah i do need the matching love seat but i still need to patch this
one,
just like in life, your mistakes usually teach you more than your
successes

Ww

WillR

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 12:55 PM

hex wrote:
> I am making a Futon sofa/bed
> i was routing the 3/4 in deep curved grooves for the roller
> mechanism,using a router and a template. the first one on the left
> side of the couch went fine the second one on the right went fine or
> so i thought. when i placed the two parts with the grooves facing each
> other, i was sopposed to have mirror images of the grooves i didnt, I=

> forgot to flip the template over ARRGH. i dont feel like buying another=

> 8/4 stick of honduran mohogany for 100 dollars and redoing all of the
> mortises for the legs, rails and stiles, the only good part is that
> the mistake will face the inside of the couch, my only idea for
> repairing this is to square out the curved grooves into 2x4 sized
> rectangles using a chisel then glue in a appropiate piece from one of
> the off cuts, any other suggestions for fixing this?
> Thanks
>=20

I've said this before - and I'll say it again Learn some inlay=20
techniques real fast.

Then ... Learn to smile and say "Isn't that brilliant decorative=20
technique?" and preen. Even the people who are _sure_ you BSing them=20
will back off and nod wisely. Trust me on this one.

Use a nice contrasting wood to plug the holes. (carefully) Turn it over=20
and re-work it. Then flaunt the mistake. You will be glad you did. :-))

Assuming you can figure out how to do the inlay.

I only use inlay techniques deliberately for decorative purpose though...=


;-)

Good luck with whatever you do.




--=20
Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw

Sa

"Steven and Gail Peterson"

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 5:59 PM

Since you have a template, it probably won't be any more work to trace it
onto some piece of waste and make a curved piece to fill the erroneous
groove. Glue it in, then don't forget to flip the template and make a new
one. I had a kitchen makeover with some curved cabinets, so I had to make
curved quarter-round molding to fit. Took a bunch of test fittings, but it
wasn't too hard.

Good luck.

Steve

"hex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am making a Futon sofa/bed
> i was routing the 3/4 in deep curved grooves for the roller
> mechanism,using a router and a template. the first one on the left
> side of the couch went fine the second one on the right went fine or
> so i thought. when i placed the two parts with the grooves facing each
> other, i was sopposed to have mirror images of the grooves i didnt, I
> forgot to flip the template over ARRGH. i dont feel like buying another
> 8/4 stick of honduran mohogany for 100 dollars and redoing all of the
> mortises for the legs, rails and stiles, the only good part is that
> the mistake will face the inside of the couch, my only idea for
> repairing this is to square out the curved grooves into 2x4 sized
> rectangles using a chisel then glue in a appropiate piece from one of
> the off cuts, any other suggestions for fixing this?
> Thanks
>

JU

Joe User

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 12:29 PM

WillR wrote:

> I've said this before - and I'll say it again Learn some inlay
> techniques real fast.
>
> Then ... Learn to smile and say "Isn't that brilliant decorative
> technique?" and preen. Even the people who are _sure_ you BSing them
> will back off and nod wisely. Trust me on this one.

I think it was on this group where I saw this exchange:

Q: I dropped something on my project and there are some pretty deep
dings. how do I get them out?

A: Don't bother - beat the whole thing with a log chain, call it
distressed, and charge an extra $20.

(:

LL

LRod

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 5:50 PM

On 18 Mar 2005 09:17:25 -0800, "hex" <[email protected]> wrote:

[snip of something we've all done...or will]
>...my only idea for repairing this is to square out the curved grooves into
>2x4 sized rectangles using a chisel then glue in a appropiate piece from
>one of the off cuts, any other suggestions for fixing this?

I think your idea is just fine. David Marks even demonstrated that on
an "oops" episode of Woodworks. And I've done it myself (my apoligies
for including myself in the same paragraph as David Marks). Having
pieces from the same chunk of wood and doing a decent job of fitting
will net a virtually invisible repair.

--
LRod

Master Woodbutcher and seasoned termite

Shamelessly whoring my website since 1999

http://www.woodbutcher.net

bb

"bob"

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 9:37 PM

Build two, just like Norm does. And sell the second one.





"hex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am making a Futon sofa/bed
> i was routing the 3/4 in deep curved grooves for the roller
> mechanism,using a router and a template. the first one on the left
> side of the couch went fine the second one on the right went fine or
> so i thought. when i placed the two parts with the grooves facing each
> other, i was sopposed to have mirror images of the grooves i didnt, I
> forgot to flip the template over ARRGH. i dont feel like buying another
> 8/4 stick of honduran mohogany for 100 dollars and redoing all of the
> mortises for the legs, rails and stiles, the only good part is that
> the mistake will face the inside of the couch, my only idea for
> repairing this is to square out the curved grooves into 2x4 sized
> rectangles using a chisel then glue in a appropiate piece from one of
> the off cuts, any other suggestions for fixing this?
> Thanks
>

VB

"Vic Baron"

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 6:05 PM


"hex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am making a Futon sofa/bed
> i was routing the 3/4 in deep curved grooves for the roller
> mechanism,using a router and a template. the first one on the left
> side of the couch went fine the second one on the right went fine or
> so i thought. when i placed the two parts with the grooves facing each
> other, i was sopposed to have mirror images of the grooves i didnt, I
> forgot to flip the template over ARRGH. i dont feel like buying another
> 8/4 stick of honduran mohogany for 100 dollars and redoing all of the
> mortises for the legs, rails and stiles, the only good part is that
> the mistake will face the inside of the couch, my only idea for
> repairing this is to square out the curved grooves into 2x4 sized
> rectangles using a chisel then glue in a appropiate piece from one of
> the off cuts, any other suggestions for fixing this?
> Thanks

Intentionally make the same mistake on the opposite side and turn it into a
design function, if possible.
IOW, make it look intentional :)

Ww

WillR

in reply to "hex" on 18/03/2005 9:17 AM

18/03/2005 3:16 PM

Joe User wrote:
> WillR wrote:
>=20
>> I've said this before - and I'll say it again Learn some inlay=20
>> techniques real fast.
>>
>> Then ... Learn to smile and say "Isn't that brilliant decorative=20
>> technique?" and preen. Even the people who are _sure_ you BSing them=20
>> will back off and nod wisely. Trust me on this one.
>=20
>=20
> I think it was on this group where I saw this exchange:
>=20
> Q: I dropped something on my project and there are some pretty deep=20
> dings. how do I get them out?
>=20
> A: Don't bother - beat the whole thing with a log chain, call it=20
> distressed, and charge an extra $20.
>=20
> (:


Did I post to rec.www.humor by mistake again?

Posting your reply in the shop - thanks. Priceless. No chains though - Da=
m!

Made my day -- well a good chunk of it anyway. There were a couple of=20
others in the same class with the same opportunistic bent...



--=20
Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw


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