I have 2 Drywall T Squares, made by 2 different companies. Neither
of them is actually 48". One is 1/8" short, the other is shy by 3/16".
The problem isn't the side with the markings that start at "0" by the T
and end at 47 7/8", it's the side with the markings that start at "0" at
the end away from the T and end at 48" at the T. That first 1" marking,
(which is directly opposite the 47" marking) isn't at 1" from the end,
so none of markings on that side are accurate.
Now, I know that a Drywall T Square is not meant to be a precision
measurement device and I know how to "shift an inch" to compensate
for the incorrect marking, but I wonder why they bother to mark
the inaccurate side in the first place. If you want markings on both
sides, just start both sides at "0" by the T so that the markings line
up and are accurate.
Seems like they could just make the T squares a true 48" and eliminate
the problem. Maybe they do...both of mine were bought at the borg but
they were bought 20 years apart, so it's not a new issue.
Not a big problem, just an observation.
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Brewster wrote:
> Then the question begs, is it square?
>=20
> -BR
Does it really make much/any difference? These are used for drywall cuttin=
g. All the drywall I have ever done had 1/8", 1/4" gaps between sheets. E=
very edge is covered with tape and filled with mud. Precision is not neces=
sary with drywall work. And even if you use the square for cutting plywood=
for exterior sheathing, precision is not that crucial. You're putting sub=
floor on. 1/8" gaps over a joist are not important. And you can always po=
und it in. Or smash the edges until it fits. The T-square is not used on =
James Krenov furniture.
On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 7:36:45 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wro=
te:
> I think you just have bad luck. I have a Johnson T square for drywall. =
I just measured it and it measures 48". Seems to have the right markings w=
ritten on it also.
I don't know if it's luck or the brand(s). I posted the same thing in anoth=
er group and had others
tell me that their squares were also shorter than 48=E2=80=9C.
No biggy. In fact, I just cut one of mine down to 42=E2=80=9C so it's reall=
y short now.
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:47:01 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote=
:
> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Brewster wrote:
> > Then the question begs, is it square?
> >=20
> > -BR
>=20
> Does it really make much/any difference? These are used for drywall cutt=
ing. All the drywall I have ever done had 1/8", 1/4" gaps between sheets. =
Every edge is covered with tape and filled with mud. Precision is not nec=
essary with drywall work. And even if you use the square for cutting plywo=
od for exterior sheathing, precision is not that crucial. You're putting s=
ubfloor on. 1/8" gaps over a joist are not important. And you can always =
pound it in. Or smash the edges until it fits. The T-square is not used o=
n James Krenov furniture.
umm...you may not have noticed that we're no longer talking about a drywall
square.
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:42:15 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote=
:
> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:14:27 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:47:01 PM UTC-4, [email protected] w=
rote:
> > > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Brewster wrote:
> > > > Then the question begs, is it square?
> > > >=20
> > > > -BR
> > >=20
> > > Does it really make much/any difference? These are used for drywall =
cutting. All the drywall I have ever done had 1/8", 1/4" gaps between shee=
ts. Every edge is covered with tape and filled with mud. Precision is not=
necessary with drywall work. And even if you use the square for cutting p=
lywood for exterior sheathing, precision is not that crucial. You're putti=
ng subfloor on. 1/8" gaps over a joist are not important. And you can alw=
ays pound it in. Or smash the edges until it fits. The T-square is not us=
ed on James Krenov furniture.
> >=20
> > umm...you may not have noticed that we're no longer talking about a dry=
wall
> > square.
>=20
> Its a 48 inch T square. You use it to cut drywall. Maybe cut some plywo=
od for sheathing. Plywood and drywall come in 4' x 8' sheets. 48" is 4 fe=
et. Cut from one side to the other. Or draw a line from one side to the o=
ther. What do you think 48 inch T squares are used for? Cutting veneered =
plywood for cabinets? Cutting boards to length?
OK. I reread the latest posts. Not talking about the square.
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 10:47:34 AM UTC-4, Brewster wrote:
> On 10/15/16 9:47 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 8:16:03 PM UTC-4, krw wrote:
> >> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 20:50:02 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 7:36:45 PM UTC-4, [email protected]=
om wrote:
> >>>> I think you just have bad luck. I have a Johnson T square for drywa=
ll.
>=20
> I just measured it and it measures 48". Seems to have the right=20
> markings written on it also.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if it's luck or the brand(s). I posted the same thing in=
another group and had others
> >>> tell me that their squares were also shorter than 48=E2=80=9C.
> >>>
> >>> No biggy. In fact, I just cut one of mine down to 42=E2=80=9C so it's=
really short now.
> >>
> >> My Johnson is 48" long, if you believe my tape measure. ;-)
> >
> > They say size doesn't matter, but 48" probably would.
> >
>=20
> Then the question begs, is it square?
>=20
> -BR
For all those on the receiving end of such a tool, may I be the first
to say "Ouch!"
On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 8:16:03 PM UTC-4, krw wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 20:50:02 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> >On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 7:36:45 PM UTC-4, [email protected] =
wrote:
> >> I think you just have bad luck. I have a Johnson T square for drywall=
. I just measured it and it measures 48". Seems to have the right marking=
s written on it also.
> >
> >I don't know if it's luck or the brand(s). I posted the same thing in an=
other group and had others
> >tell me that their squares were also shorter than 48=E2=80=9C.
> >
> >No biggy. In fact, I just cut one of mine down to 42=E2=80=9C so it's re=
ally short now.
>=20
> My Johnson is 48" long, if you believe my tape measure. ;-)
They say size doesn't matter, but 48" probably would.
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:14:21 AM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,=20
> [email protected] says...
> >=20
> > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:14:27 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:47:01 PM UTC-4, [email protected]=
wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Brewster wrote:
> > > > > Then the question begs, is it square?
> > > > >=20
> > > > > -BR
> > > >=20
> > > > Does it really make much/any difference? These are used for drywal=
l cutting. All the drywall I have ever done had 1/8", 1/4" gaps between sh=
eets. Every edge is covered with tape and filled with mud. Precision is n=
ot necessary with drywall work. And even if you use the square for cutting=
plywood for exterior sheathing, precision is not that crucial. You're put=
ting subfloor on. 1/8" gaps over a joist are not important. And you can a=
lways pound it in. Or smash=20
> the edges until it fits. The T-square is not used on James Krenov furnit=
ure.
> > >=20
> > > umm...you may not have noticed that we're no longer talking about a d=
rywall
> > > square.
> >=20
> > Its a 48 inch T square.
>=20
> Perhaps you are not a native speaker of American--the discussion has=20
> gone from a square to a Johnson, which is used for a rather different=20
> kind of woodworking.
>=20
I missed the "Johnson" part until now. That's good. The "woodworking" is =
a little coarser than I care to tread.
On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 4:41:01 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote=
:
> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 2:14:21 AM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,=20
> > [email protected] says...
> > >=20
> > > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:14:27 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:47:01 PM UTC-4, [email protected]=
om wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Brewster wrote:
> > > > > > Then the question begs, is it square?
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > -BR
> > > > >=20
> > > > > Does it really make much/any difference? These are used for dryw=
all cutting. All the drywall I have ever done had 1/8", 1/4" gaps between =
sheets. Every edge is covered with tape and filled with mud. Precision is=
not necessary with drywall work. And even if you use the square for cutti=
ng plywood for exterior sheathing, precision is not that crucial. You're p=
utting subfloor on. 1/8" gaps over a joist are not important. And you can=
always pound it in. Or smash=20
> > the edges until it fits. The T-square is not used on James Krenov furn=
iture.
> > > >=20
> > > > umm...you may not have noticed that we're no longer talking about a=
drywall
> > > > square.
> > >=20
> > > Its a 48 inch T square.
> >=20
> > Perhaps you are not a native speaker of American--the discussion has=20
> > gone from a square to a Johnson, which is used for a rather different=
=20
> > kind of woodworking.
> >=20
>=20
> I missed the "Johnson" part until now. That's good. The "woodworking" i=
s a little coarser than I care to tread.
"woodworking" is too coarse but the 48" square Johnson comment was OK? Inte=
resting. ;-)
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
>
> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:14:27 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:47:01 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Brewster wrote:
> > > > Then the question begs, is it square?
> > > >
> > > > -BR
> > >
> > > Does it really make much/any difference? These are used for drywall cutting. All the drywall I have ever done had 1/8", 1/4" gaps between sheets. Every edge is covered with tape and filled with mud. Precision is not necessary with drywall work. And even if you use the square for cutting plywood for exterior sheathing, precision is not that crucial. You're putting subfloor on. 1/8" gaps over a joist are not important. And you can always pound it in. Or smash
the edges until it fits. The T-square is not used on James Krenov furniture.
> >
> > umm...you may not have noticed that we're no longer talking about a drywall
> > square.
>
> Its a 48 inch T square.
Perhaps you are not a native speaker of American--the discussion has
gone from a square to a Johnson, which is used for a rather different
kind of woodworking.
> You use it to cut drywall. Maybe cut some plywood for sheathing.
> Plywood and drywall come in 4' x 8' sheets. 48" is 4 feet. Cut from
> one side to the other. Or draw a line from one side to the other.
> What do you think 48 inch T squares are used for? Cutting veneered
> plywood for cabinets? Cutting boards to length?
On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:14:27 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 2:47:01 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wro=
te:
> > On Sunday, October 16, 2016 at 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Brewster wrote:
> > > Then the question begs, is it square?
> > >=20
> > > -BR
> >=20
> > Does it really make much/any difference? These are used for drywall cu=
tting. All the drywall I have ever done had 1/8", 1/4" gaps between sheets=
. Every edge is covered with tape and filled with mud. Precision is not n=
ecessary with drywall work. And even if you use the square for cutting ply=
wood for exterior sheathing, precision is not that crucial. You're putting=
subfloor on. 1/8" gaps over a joist are not important. And you can alway=
s pound it in. Or smash the edges until it fits. The T-square is not used=
on James Krenov furniture.
>=20
> umm...you may not have noticed that we're no longer talking about a drywa=
ll
> square.
Its a 48 inch T square. You use it to cut drywall. Maybe cut some plywood=
for sheathing. Plywood and drywall come in 4' x 8' sheets. 48" is 4 feet=
. Cut from one side to the other. Or draw a line from one side to the oth=
er. What do you think 48 inch T squares are used for? Cutting veneered pl=
ywood for cabinets? Cutting boards to length?
On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 20:50:02 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 7:36:45 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>> I think you just have bad luck. I have a Johnson T square for drywall. I just measured it and it measures 48". Seems to have the right markings written on it also.
>
>I don't know if it's luck or the brand(s). I posted the same thing in another group and had others
>tell me that their squares were also shorter than 48.
>
>No biggy. In fact, I just cut one of mine down to 42 so it's really short now.
My Johnson is 48" long, if you believe my tape measure. ;-)
On 10/15/16 9:47 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 8:16:03 PM UTC-4, krw wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 20:50:02 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 7:36:45 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> I think you just have bad luck. I have a Johnson T square for drywall.
I just measured it and it measures 48". Seems to have the right
markings written on it also.
>>>
>>> I don't know if it's luck or the brand(s). I posted the same thing in another group and had others
>>> tell me that their squares were also shorter than 48â.
>>>
>>> No biggy. In fact, I just cut one of mine down to 42â so it's really short now.
>>
>> My Johnson is 48" long, if you believe my tape measure. ;-)
>
> They say size doesn't matter, but 48" probably would.
>
Then the question begs, is it square?
-BR
On 10/15/2016 10:47 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 8:16:03 PM UTC-4, krw wrote:
>> My Johnson is 48" long, if you believe my tape measure. ;-)
>
> They say size doesn't matter, but 48" probably would.
So much for closeness ...
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