Folks -
It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
Overall I am VERY happy with how things turned out. The end wall ended up
being out of square by about 1 1/2" - I can only guess that the form
slipped, and have NO idea how. The forms were braced like a brick, um,
sawdust house (or so I thought) and I did check the diagonals and wall
lengths before the pour.
It's worked out, tho' We have three wall sections up and no matter how many
times you view it in your minds' eye or look at the drawings, it's quite
another to see the walls go up. VERY satisfying!
Again, my deepest gratitude and thanks to Al Miller a rec'r brother-in-arms
of the first order. As a Concrete Contractor (Emeritus) we exchanged
countless emails and a number of phone calls. The man has the patience of
Job and I can't thank him enough. It's folks like him here that make up for
wading through 100 OT trolls.
Rather than post in APBW, SWMBO posted the photos at Yahoo. If y'all click
on the link below you'll bring up the photo album. If you click on the
"slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
progress in rough order of construction.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing all
the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
Having 10' tall walls is going to make a HUGE difference - oboyoboyoboyoboy!
John Moorhead
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:45:49 GMT, John Moorhead <[email protected]> wrote:
> Folks -
>
> It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
> started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
> rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
Fantastic. It's been a hell of a slog getting here.
> Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing all
> the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
That's what I tell people about my housebuilding photos too, but nobody
believes it.
Congrats on a new almost-space.
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:24:21 GMT, Michael Baglio <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hmm... photos 6 and 7: Back of house-- gutter in tact.
> Photo #9-- Backhoe reeeeeeeealy close to back of house.
> Photo #10-- Big-assed crunchy-bendy dent in gutter, just visible
> behind operator's head.
nod-nod...yup, got a gutter just like that on the corner of my garage.
And a backhoe. No pictures, though.
Dave "What part of 'I don't want to talk about it' didn't you get?" Hinz
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:31:48 GMT, patriarch <> wrote:
> "RKON" <[email protected]> wrote in news:jXTcd.40561$%x.28488@okepread04:
>
>> Good Luck and curse those acorns. Maybe you should wear a hardhat over
>> the next couple of weeks of framing.
>
> A good part of the problem is that the acorns function as imperfect, but
> capable ball bearings under foot.
Ah, kind of like shell corn on the road (at a corner) while on a motorcycle.
Not round, but round _enough_.
cool :)
Rob
--
http://www.robswoodworking.com
"John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Folks -
>
> It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
> started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
> rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
>
> Overall I am VERY happy with how things turned out. The end wall ended up
> being out of square by about 1 1/2" - I can only guess that the form
> slipped, and have NO idea how. The forms were braced like a brick, um,
> sawdust house (or so I thought) and I did check the diagonals and wall
> lengths before the pour.
>
> It's worked out, tho' We have three wall sections up and no matter how
many
> times you view it in your minds' eye or look at the drawings, it's quite
> another to see the walls go up. VERY satisfying!
>
> Again, my deepest gratitude and thanks to Al Miller a rec'r
brother-in-arms
> of the first order. As a Concrete Contractor (Emeritus) we exchanged
> countless emails and a number of phone calls. The man has the patience of
> Job and I can't thank him enough. It's folks like him here that make up
for
> wading through 100 OT trolls.
>
> Rather than post in APBW, SWMBO posted the photos at Yahoo. If y'all
click
> on the link below you'll bring up the photo album. If you click on the
> "slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
> progress in rough order of construction.
>
>
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
>
> Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing all
> the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
>
> Having 10' tall walls is going to make a HUGE difference -
oboyoboyoboyoboy!
>
>
> John Moorhead
>
>
> "jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote > >
> > p.s. Did anyone notice that it looks like the Wife is doing all the
work?
>
>
That what I noticed too.
How much does she charge per hour?
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ZKRcd.208$%[email protected]...
> John Moorhead wrote:
> > Folks -
> >
> > It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
> > started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
> > rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
> >
> > Overall I am VERY happy with how things turned out. The end wall ended
up
> > being out of square by about 1 1/2" - I can only guess that the form
> > slipped, and have NO idea how. The forms were braced like a brick, um,
> > sawdust house (or so I thought) and I did check the diagonals and wall
> > lengths before the pour.
> >
> > It's worked out, tho' We have three wall sections up and no matter how
many
> > times you view it in your minds' eye or look at the drawings, it's quite
> > another to see the walls go up. VERY satisfying!
> >
> > Again, my deepest gratitude and thanks to Al Miller a rec'r
brother-in-arms
> > of the first order. As a Concrete Contractor (Emeritus) we exchanged
> > countless emails and a number of phone calls. The man has the patience
of
> > Job and I can't thank him enough. It's folks like him here that make up
for
> > wading through 100 OT trolls.
> >
> > Rather than post in APBW, SWMBO posted the photos at Yahoo. If y'all
click
> > on the link below you'll bring up the photo album. If you click on the
> > "slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
> > progress in rough order of construction.
> >
> >
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
> >
> > Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing
all
> > the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
> >
> > Having 10' tall walls is going to make a HUGE difference -
oboyoboyoboyoboy!
> >
> >
> > John Moorhead
> >
> Beautiful! :-) Congratulations.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
>
> p.s. Did anyone notice that it looks like the Wife is doing all the work?
You're right. It does look like his wife is doing all the work. Going to be
nice when it's done though.
"RKON" <[email protected]> wrote in news:jXTcd.40561$%x.28488@okepread04:
> Outstanding Job !! The Mrs. should be commended on the concrete pour.
>
> Good Luck and curse those acorns. Maybe you should wear a hardhat over
> the next couple of weeks of framing.
<snip>
A good part of the problem is that the acorns function as imperfect, but
capable ball bearings under foot.
Patriarch,
who's headed up John's way to build my dad a mantel soon...
John Moorhead wrote:
> Folks -
>
> It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
> started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
> rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
>
> Overall I am VERY happy with how things turned out. The end wall ended up
> being out of square by about 1 1/2" - I can only guess that the form
> slipped, and have NO idea how. The forms were braced like a brick, um,
> sawdust house (or so I thought) and I did check the diagonals and wall
> lengths before the pour.
>
> It's worked out, tho' We have three wall sections up and no matter how many
> times you view it in your minds' eye or look at the drawings, it's quite
> another to see the walls go up. VERY satisfying!
>
> Again, my deepest gratitude and thanks to Al Miller a rec'r brother-in-arms
> of the first order. As a Concrete Contractor (Emeritus) we exchanged
> countless emails and a number of phone calls. The man has the patience of
> Job and I can't thank him enough. It's folks like him here that make up for
> wading through 100 OT trolls.
>
> Rather than post in APBW, SWMBO posted the photos at Yahoo. If y'all click
> on the link below you'll bring up the photo album. If you click on the
> "slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
> progress in rough order of construction.
>
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
>
> Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing all
> the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
>
> Having 10' tall walls is going to make a HUGE difference - oboyoboyoboyoboy!
>
>
> John Moorhead
>
Beautiful! :-) Congratulations.
mahalo,
jo4hn
p.s. Did anyone notice that it looks like the Wife is doing all the work?
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:36:37 GMT, "John Moorhead"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Nope, It's not how I am framing the window.... One of my "learning
>experiences was laying out the anchor bolts on 4' centers and then
>discovering that I had placed a good portion of them SMACK DAB underneath my
>king studs. This should have been a no-brainer, since the studs are 16" OC.
>Anyway, I did leave it to ask the building inspector and he said to leave
>the bolt in place and to drill and use another wedge anchor or epoxied
>thread all adjacent to the bolt. I'll frame in the window after I slip the
>other stud into place.
Oh man, that sucks! I had 3 or 4 like that the last time I helped a
guy put up a shop, and it was a real PITA. We bolted the sill plate
to the foundation, and then drilled up from the bottom of the wall to
allow the nut and bolt to slide right up into the stud. It was the
second-worst part of the whole job. (The worst was nailing the
sheathing to the roof- I hate roofing!)
>Good eyes!
Thanks! I just didn't want you to end up with busted windows when the
structure shifts.
>John
>
>
>"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:45:49 GMT, "John Moorhead"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Folks -
>>>
>>>It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
>>>started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
>>>rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
>>>
>>>Overall I am VERY happy with how things turned out. The end wall ended up
>>>being out of square by about 1 1/2" - I can only guess that the form
>>>slipped, and have NO idea how. The forms were braced like a brick, um,
>>>sawdust house (or so I thought) and I did check the diagonals and wall
>>>lengths before the pour.
>>>
>>>It's worked out, tho' We have three wall sections up and no matter how
>>>many
>>>times you view it in your minds' eye or look at the drawings, it's quite
>>>another to see the walls go up. VERY satisfying!
>>>
>>>Again, my deepest gratitude and thanks to Al Miller a rec'r
>>>brother-in-arms
>>>of the first order. As a Concrete Contractor (Emeritus) we exchanged
>>>countless emails and a number of phone calls. The man has the patience of
>>>Job and I can't thank him enough. It's folks like him here that make up
>>>for
>>>wading through 100 OT trolls.
>>>
>>>Rather than post in APBW, SWMBO posted the photos at Yahoo. If y'all
>>>click
>>>on the link below you'll bring up the photo album. If you click on the
>>>"slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
>>>progress in rough order of construction.
>>>
>>>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
>>>
>>>Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing all
>>>the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
>>>
>>>Having 10' tall walls is going to make a HUGE difference -
>>>oboyoboyoboyoboy!
>>
>>
>> Fun stuff!
>>
>> I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt, but are you sure that's how
>> you want to frame the rough opening for your window? The codes where
>> you are could be different than Wisconsin, but that looks a little
>> shaky to me- maybe call up your building inspector and see!
>>
>> Enjoy the shop!
>
On 18 Oct 2004 19:58:27 GMT, Dave Hinz <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:24:21 GMT, Michael Baglio <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hmm... photos 6 and 7: Back of house-- gutter in tact.
>> Photo #9-- Backhoe reeeeeeeealy close to back of house.
>> Photo #10-- Big-assed crunchy-bendy dent in gutter, just visible
>> behind operator's head.
>
>nod-nod...yup, got a gutter just like that on the corner of my garage.
>And a backhoe. No pictures, though.
>
>Dave "What part of 'I don't want to talk about it' didn't you get?" Hinz
I've got a dent in the door of my pickup that falls in that category.
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:45:49 GMT, "John Moorhead"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Folks -
>
>It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
>started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
>rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
>
>Overall I am VERY happy with how things turned out. The end wall ended up
>being out of square by about 1 1/2" - I can only guess that the form
>slipped, and have NO idea how. The forms were braced like a brick, um,
>sawdust house (or so I thought) and I did check the diagonals and wall
>lengths before the pour.
>
>It's worked out, tho' We have three wall sections up and no matter how many
>times you view it in your minds' eye or look at the drawings, it's quite
>another to see the walls go up. VERY satisfying!
>
>Again, my deepest gratitude and thanks to Al Miller a rec'r brother-in-arms
>of the first order. As a Concrete Contractor (Emeritus) we exchanged
>countless emails and a number of phone calls. The man has the patience of
>Job and I can't thank him enough. It's folks like him here that make up for
>wading through 100 OT trolls.
>
>Rather than post in APBW, SWMBO posted the photos at Yahoo. If y'all click
>on the link below you'll bring up the photo album. If you click on the
>"slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
>progress in rough order of construction.
>
>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
>
>Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing all
>the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
>
>Having 10' tall walls is going to make a HUGE difference - oboyoboyoboyoboy!
Fun stuff!
I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt, but are you sure that's how
you want to frame the rough opening for your window? The codes where
you are could be different than Wisconsin, but that looks a little
shaky to me- maybe call up your building inspector and see!
Enjoy the shop!
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:45:49 GMT, "John Moorhead"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> If you click on the
>"slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
>progress in rough order of construction.
>
>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
Hmm... photos 6 and 7: Back of house-- gutter in tact.
Photo #9-- Backhoe reeeeeeeealy close to back of house.
Photo #10-- Big-assed crunchy-bendy dent in gutter, just visible
behind operator's head.
_That_ musta sucked. :) Whahappened? ;>
Congrats on the slab, though!
Michael
Outstanding Job !! The Mrs. should be commended on the concrete pour.
Good Luck and curse those acorns. Maybe you should wear a hardhat over the
next couple of weeks of framing.
Rich
"jo4hn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:ZKRcd.208$%[email protected]...
> John Moorhead wrote:
> > Folks -
> >
> > It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
> > started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
> > rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
> >
> > Overall I am VERY happy with how things turned out. The end wall ended
up
> > being out of square by about 1 1/2" - I can only guess that the form
> > slipped, and have NO idea how. The forms were braced like a brick, um,
> > sawdust house (or so I thought) and I did check the diagonals and wall
> > lengths before the pour.
> >
> > It's worked out, tho' We have three wall sections up and no matter how
many
> > times you view it in your minds' eye or look at the drawings, it's quite
> > another to see the walls go up. VERY satisfying!
> >
> > Again, my deepest gratitude and thanks to Al Miller a rec'r
brother-in-arms
> > of the first order. As a Concrete Contractor (Emeritus) we exchanged
> > countless emails and a number of phone calls. The man has the patience
of
> > Job and I can't thank him enough. It's folks like him here that make up
for
> > wading through 100 OT trolls.
> >
> > Rather than post in APBW, SWMBO posted the photos at Yahoo. If y'all
click
> > on the link below you'll bring up the photo album. If you click on the
> > "slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
> > progress in rough order of construction.
> >
> >
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
> >
> > Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing
all
> > the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
> >
> > Having 10' tall walls is going to make a HUGE difference -
oboyoboyoboyoboy!
> >
> >
> > John Moorhead
> >
> Beautiful! :-) Congratulations.
> mahalo,
> jo4hn
>
> p.s. Did anyone notice that it looks like the Wife is doing all the work?
Guess I better throw in a 2 cents here. Over the years I have taught a lot
of people how to setup forms and pour concrete but never by e-mail or phone.
This was a new experience for me and Very rewarding. John was a delight to
work with and did a great job, if I was still in business I'd hire him in a
minute.
I did notice the same as the rest of you that he took the pictures and when
ever I phoned to see how things were going, HE answered. Mmm, who was out
doing the work? Rose?
In May I'm moving to Libby, Mt for final retirement and plan to build a shop
about the same size so I plan to invite John there to show me how (or do the
work). Might even take him flyfishing on the Kootenia River to catch a big
trout.
This NG is one of the best I've seen with some very nice and knowledgeable
people that have answers to about anything in woodworking. So we get some
OT's and trolls but so what? We still help each other and that's what
counts.
Al in WA soon in MT
"John Moorhead" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Folks -
>
> It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
> started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
> rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
>
> Overall I am VERY happy with how things turned out. The end wall ended up
> being out of square by about 1 1/2" - I can only guess that the form
> slipped, and have NO idea how. The forms were braced like a brick, um,
> sawdust house (or so I thought) and I did check the diagonals and wall
> lengths before the pour.
>
> It's worked out, tho' We have three wall sections up and no matter how
> many times you view it in your minds' eye or look at the drawings, it's
> quite another to see the walls go up. VERY satisfying!
>
> Again, my deepest gratitude and thanks to Al Miller a rec'r
> brother-in-arms of the first order. As a Concrete Contractor (Emeritus)
> we exchanged countless emails and a number of phone calls. The man has
> the patience of Job and I can't thank him enough. It's folks like him
> here that make up for wading through 100 OT trolls.
>
> Rather than post in APBW, SWMBO posted the photos at Yahoo. If y'all
> click on the link below you'll bring up the photo album. If you click on
> the "slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
> progress in rough order of construction.
>
> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
>
> Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing all
> the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
>
> Having 10' tall walls is going to make a HUGE difference -
> oboyoboyoboyoboy!
>
>
> John Moorhead
>
>
Nope, It's not how I am framing the window.... One of my "learning
experiences was laying out the anchor bolts on 4' centers and then
discovering that I had placed a good portion of them SMACK DAB underneath my
king studs. This should have been a no-brainer, since the studs are 16" OC.
Anyway, I did leave it to ask the building inspector and he said to leave
the bolt in place and to drill and use another wedge anchor or epoxied
thread all adjacent to the bolt. I'll frame in the window after I slip the
other stud into place.
Good eyes!
John
"Prometheus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:45:49 GMT, "John Moorhead"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Folks -
>>
>>It's DONE. Poured, finished, cured, danced on, drank on.... And we've
>>started FRAMING... now... Just in time for the season's first serious
>>rainfall... Damn! Well, progress...!
>>
>>Overall I am VERY happy with how things turned out. The end wall ended up
>>being out of square by about 1 1/2" - I can only guess that the form
>>slipped, and have NO idea how. The forms were braced like a brick, um,
>>sawdust house (or so I thought) and I did check the diagonals and wall
>>lengths before the pour.
>>
>>It's worked out, tho' We have three wall sections up and no matter how
>>many
>>times you view it in your minds' eye or look at the drawings, it's quite
>>another to see the walls go up. VERY satisfying!
>>
>>Again, my deepest gratitude and thanks to Al Miller a rec'r
>>brother-in-arms
>>of the first order. As a Concrete Contractor (Emeritus) we exchanged
>>countless emails and a number of phone calls. The man has the patience of
>>Job and I can't thank him enough. It's folks like him here that make up
>>for
>>wading through 100 OT trolls.
>>
>>Rather than post in APBW, SWMBO posted the photos at Yahoo. If y'all
>>click
>>on the link below you'll bring up the photo album. If you click on the
>>"slideshow" button on the left side of the frame you can see the work
>>progress in rough order of construction.
>>
>>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/[email protected]/album?.dir=/d61d&.src=ph&.tok=phlxg5BBr6x9bMg5
>>
>>Before you all make snide remarks that it looks like the Wife is doing all
>>the work, I'd remind you that I was taking most of the pictures...
>>
>>Having 10' tall walls is going to make a HUGE difference -
>>oboyoboyoboyoboy!
>
>
> Fun stuff!
>
> I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt, but are you sure that's how
> you want to frame the rough opening for your window? The codes where
> you are could be different than Wisconsin, but that looks a little
> shaky to me- maybe call up your building inspector and see!
>
> Enjoy the shop!
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:12:30 -0700, "Al" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Guess I better throw in a 2 cents here. Over the years I have taught a lot
>of people how to setup forms and pour concrete but never by e-mail or phone.
>This was a new experience for me and Very rewarding. John was a delight to
>work with and did a great job, if I was still in business I'd hire him in a
>minute.
>
>I did notice the same as the rest of you that he took the pictures and when
>ever I phoned to see how things were going, HE answered. Mmm, who was out
>doing the work? Rose?
>
>In May I'm moving to Libby, Mt for final retirement and plan to build a shop
>about the same size so I plan to invite John there to show me how (or do the
>work). Might even take him flyfishing on the Kootenia River to catch a big
>trout.
>
>This NG is one of the best I've seen with some very nice and knowledgeable
>people that have answers to about anything in woodworking. So we get some
>OT's and trolls but so what? We still help each other and that's what
>counts.
>
>Al in WA soon in MT
>
>
hey Al.. hope your retirement is happy, healthy and busy..
judging from the pictures, I'd suggest asking John's wife to assist on
that shop construction... maybe John could take pictures and make the
coffee?? *eg*