It's MUGGY tonight in SoCal.
Very unusual for SoCal.
If I didn't know better, I'd swear I was in corn growing country back
in the Midwest.
Another couple of days of this and you will be able to hear the corn
growing if you're in North Central Illinois driving from Chicago to St
Louis.
From what I hear, this is going to be a good corn year.
Hope it is a good year for corn, but they don't grow corn here in
SoCal.
I'll take the low humidity typical most of the year here in SoCal.
Lew
geoff <[email protected]> writes:
>The song " A country boy can survive" comes to mind. City people rely
>way too much on others coming to their aid.
How does the country boy survive a heart attack, when the ambulance is
an hour away?
I know what that is like. It has been 80% 80degrees and that is after
the sun heats up the air a bit to steam out the place.
Martin
On 7/11/2013 12:15 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> It's MUGGY tonight in SoCal.
>
> Very unusual for SoCal.
>
> If I didn't know better, I'd swear I was in corn growing country back
> in the Midwest.
>
> Another couple of days of this and you will be able to hear the corn
> growing if you're in North Central Illinois driving from Chicago to St
> Louis.
>
> From what I hear, this is going to be a good corn year.
>
> Hope it is a good year for corn, but they don't grow corn here in
> SoCal.
>
> I'll take the low humidity typical most of the year here in SoCal.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
>
"Bill" wrote:
> FWIW, It's rained just about every day for a week now here in the
> midwest (IN).
> One evening we even had fog, which is pretty rare.
---------------------------------------------------
My cousin, a grain farmer in North Central IN, isn't complaining,
especially when he just missed those tornados that hit his neighbors.
Couple of weeks ago, they got 5+" of rain overnight at the Ag station
in Wooster, OH (50 miles South of Cleveland, 30 miles west of the
Football Hall of Fame in Canton).
It was within 1" of what SoCal got for the whole year this year which
was about 6+".
Normal year is about 12"-14".
Lew
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Not out of the ordinary the last 15 years or so to go from May 24 to
> labour day with less than 2 inches of rain here in central Ontario.
> "if the lawn is green in August, its not grass" - this year it's
> been
> raining at least weekly - the lawn grows 3 or 4 inches a week, and
> lots of fields are under water. Toronto Airport got over 5 inches of
> rain in 2 hours - more than Hurricane Hazel dumped in total back in
> 1954. A couple weeks back the "holland marsh" vegetable growing
> area
> flooded - some areas under 10 feet of water.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Back when I lived in Northern Ohio, anything less than 1/4" rain per
week was considered a drought.
It was time to water the lawns.
BTW how did the asparagus farmers NE of Peterbourgh make out?
Lew
The song " A country boy can survive" comes to mind. City people rely
way too much on others coming to their aid.
On 7/12/2013 9:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:21:06 -0400, Keith Nuttle
>> I
>> live about 20 miles from Raleigh NC. The only time we go downtown, is
>> when there is no alternative.
>
> That's a disadvantage right there. The disadvantages I was mainly
> thinking of were medical and health related. Hospitals, the support of
> emergency response teams, etcetera.
>
> How many people are in your town? Where will help come from if you
> experience a tornado or a flood? I'm guessing that much of it will
> come from 20 miles away. That takes time.
>
> I'm not saying there aren't any advantages, but smaller towns come
> with their own set of difficulties, many that a city might not
> experience.
>
Aspirin...
On 7/15/2013 10:11 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> geoff <[email protected]> writes:
>> The song " A country boy can survive" comes to mind. City people rely
>> way too much on others coming to their aid.
>
> How does the country boy survive a heart attack, when the ambulance is
> an hour away?
>
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:03:55 -0400, FrozenNorth
>Tell me about it, that was scary, I am close to Pearson, 6 hour power
>outage and no basement leaks, I consider myself lucky.
I went through four hours of aggravation and consider myself lucky
compared to many.
- After a hospital appointment, waited 40 minutes for it to let up
enough to dash for the subway.
- Waited 45 minutes for the subway only to have it cancelled system
wide.
- Wandered around for an hour in a mall while waiting for Wheeltrans.
- Then they told me they couldn't get me a ride.
- Got soaked again going back to the hospital looking for a ride.
- Got lucky, a friend saw me sitting by the side of the road and gave
me a ride home.
All it cost me was four hours and a soaking. Power was on and
elevators were working when I got home and that's it. I was lucky
compared to thousands of others.
On 7/10/2013 11:00 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Bill" wrote:
>
>> FWIW, It's rained just about every day for a week now here in the
>> midwest (IN).
>> One evening we even had fog, which is pretty rare.
> ---------------------------------------------------
> My cousin, a grain farmer in North Central IN, isn't complaining,
> especially when he just missed those tornados that hit his neighbors.
>
> Couple of weeks ago, they got 5+" of rain overnight at the Ag station
> in Wooster, OH (50 miles South of Cleveland, 30 miles west of the
> Football Hall of Fame in Canton).
>
> It was within 1" of what SoCal got for the whole year this year which
> was about 6+".
>
> Normal year is about 12"-14".
>
> Lew
>
>
It's raining here in Carlsbad, CA. If it keeps up at this rate for a
few more days, we might have a measurable amount.
mahalo,
jo4hn
[as he moves stage left into the paper mache sunset whilst singing
"raindrips keep falling on my <censored>"]
Keith Nuttle <[email protected]> wrote in news:krosva$lun$1
@speranza.aioe.org:
> It is interesting how the weather is cyclic. After a number of years
> with low rain Fort Wayne Indiana is getting a lot of rain like much of
> the eastern US.
>
> I found an article in the Reading Eagle dated June 18 1868 (Reading
> Pennsylvania) about the storms in the Fort Wayne area. It is described
> as "the most terrible thunder and rain storms that have ever been
> witnessed."
>
> It goes on to say that one man was killed during the storm. It continues
> talk about the hundreds of feet of railroad track destroyed and bridges
> washed out. It talks about many families "washed" out of their homes.
> It finishes by say the destruction to property is immense and they
> have no idea of the cost as it has not yet been assessed.
>
> Interesting nearly 100 years later with the use of current phraseology,
> the story could have be taken from any newspaper today
>
Nonsense. You must have made that up. Everyone knows that severe weather events are
caused by manmade global warming, and never occurred prior to the Bush2
administration.
</sarcasm>
in 1555645 20130712 133501 Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>Keith Nuttle <[email protected]> wrote in news:krosva$lun$1
>@speranza.aioe.org:
>
>> It is interesting how the weather is cyclic. After a number of years
>> with low rain Fort Wayne Indiana is getting a lot of rain like much of
>> the eastern US.
>>
>> I found an article in the Reading Eagle dated June 18 1868 (Reading
>> Pennsylvania) about the storms in the Fort Wayne area. It is described
>> as "the most terrible thunder and rain storms that have ever been
>> witnessed."
>>
>> It goes on to say that one man was killed during the storm. It continues
>> talk about the hundreds of feet of railroad track destroyed and bridges
>> washed out. It talks about many families "washed" out of their homes.
>> It finishes by say the destruction to property is immense and they
>> have no idea of the cost as it has not yet been assessed.
>>
>> Interesting nearly 100 years later with the use of current phraseology,
>> the story could have be taken from any newspaper today
>>
>Nonsense. You must have made that up. Everyone knows that severe weather events are
>caused by manmade global warming, and never occurred prior to the Bush2
>administration.
Tell that to Noah.
On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 01:20:11 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> It's MUGGY tonight in SoCal.
>>
>> Very unusual for SoCal.
>>
>> If I didn't know better, I'd swear I was in corn growing country back
>> in the Midwest.
> FWIW, It's rained just about every day for a week now here in the
>midwest (IN).
>One evening we even had fog, which is pretty rare.
>
>
>>
>> Another couple of days of this and you will be able to hear the corn
>> growing if you're in North Central Illinois driving from Chicago to St
>> Louis.
>>
>> From what I hear, this is going to be a good corn year.
>>
>> Hope it is a good year for corn, but they don't grow corn here in
>> SoCal.
>>
>> I'll take the low humidity typical most of the year here in SoCal.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>>
>>
Not out of the ordinary the last 15 years or so to go from May 24 to
labour day with less than 2 inches of rain here in central Ontario.
"if the lawn is green in August, its not grass" - this year it's been
raining at least weekly - the lawn grows 3 or 4 inches a week, and
lots of fields are under water. Toronto Airport got over 5 inches of
rain in 2 hours - more than Hurricane Hazel dumped in total back in
1954. A couple weeks back the "holland marsh" vegetable growing area
flooded - some areas under 10 feet of water.
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 09:00:15 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
>Somehow I feel deprived. I have never even seen a subway except on
>TV. The last (and only) time I have ridden in a taxi was in Osaka
>1981. There is only one elevator in town--in the courthouse. It has
>two stories.
Sounds like a town where everyone knows everyone else. I can think of
some distinct advantages to that. Guess there's some disadvantages as
well.
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:21:06 -0400, Keith Nuttle
> I
>live about 20 miles from Raleigh NC. The only time we go downtown, is
>when there is no alternative.
That's a disadvantage right there. The disadvantages I was mainly
thinking of were medical and health related. Hospitals, the support of
emergency response teams, etcetera.
How many people are in your town? Where will help come from if you
experience a tornado or a flood? I'm guessing that much of it will
come from 20 miles away. That takes time.
I'm not saying there aren't any advantages, but smaller towns come
with their own set of difficulties, many that a city might not
experience.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> It's MUGGY tonight in SoCal.
>
> Very unusual for SoCal.
>
> If I didn't know better, I'd swear I was in corn growing country back
> in the Midwest.
FWIW, It's rained just about every day for a week now here in the
midwest (IN).
One evening we even had fog, which is pretty rare.
>
> Another couple of days of this and you will be able to hear the corn
> growing if you're in North Central Illinois driving from Chicago to St
> Louis.
>
> From what I hear, this is going to be a good corn year.
>
> Hope it is a good year for corn, but they don't grow corn here in
> SoCal.
>
> I'll take the low humidity typical most of the year here in SoCal.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
>
On 7/11/2013 10:46 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 01:20:11 -0400, Bill <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> It's MUGGY tonight in SoCal.
>>>
>>> Very unusual for SoCal.
>>>
>>> If I didn't know better, I'd swear I was in corn growing country back
>>> in the Midwest.
>> FWIW, It's rained just about every day for a week now here in the
>> midwest (IN).
>> One evening we even had fog, which is pretty rare.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Another couple of days of this and you will be able to hear the corn
>>> growing if you're in North Central Illinois driving from Chicago to St
>>> Louis.
>>>
>>> From what I hear, this is going to be a good corn year.
>>>
>>> Hope it is a good year for corn, but they don't grow corn here in
>>> SoCal.
>>>
>>> I'll take the low humidity typical most of the year here in SoCal.
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Not out of the ordinary the last 15 years or so to go from May 24 to
> labour day with less than 2 inches of rain here in central Ontario.
> "if the lawn is green in August, its not grass" - this year it's been
> raining at least weekly - the lawn grows 3 or 4 inches a week, and
> lots of fields are under water. Toronto Airport got over 5 inches of
> rain in 2 hours - more than Hurricane Hazel dumped in total back in
> 1954. A couple weeks back the "holland marsh" vegetable growing area
> flooded - some areas under 10 feet of water.
>
Tell me about it, that was scary, I am close to Pearson, 6 hour power
outage and no basement leaks, I consider myself lucky.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 7/12/2013 12:09 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Not out of the ordinary the last 15 years or so to go from May 24 to
>> labour day with less than 2 inches of rain here in central Ontario.
>> "if the lawn is green in August, its not grass" - this year it's
>> been
>> raining at least weekly - the lawn grows 3 or 4 inches a week, and
>> lots of fields are under water. Toronto Airport got over 5 inches of
>> rain in 2 hours - more than Hurricane Hazel dumped in total back in
>> 1954. A couple weeks back the "holland marsh" vegetable growing
>> area
>> flooded - some areas under 10 feet of water.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Back when I lived in Northern Ohio, anything less than 1/4" rain per
> week was considered a drought.
>
> It was time to water the lawns.
>
> BTW how did the asparagus farmers NE of Peterbourgh make out?
>
> Lew
>
>
Got a fiend on Rice Lake, they got nothing of the drench we got in Toronto.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 7/11/2013 12:20 AM, Bill wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> It's MUGGY tonight in SoCal.
>>
>> Very unusual for SoCal.
>>
>> If I didn't know better, I'd swear I was in corn growing country back
>> in the Midwest.
> FWIW, It's rained just about every day for a week now here in the
> midwest (IN).
> One evening we even had fog, which is pretty rare.
...
FWIW, it hasn't rained on us (SW KS) in nearly a month and we've had
barely 3" for the year...on YTD we're behind even the worst of the
dirty-30's...otoh, it has finally this year (as opposed to previous two)
rained some in the middle/eastern parts of the state as well as OK/NE...
<http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/DM_highplains.htm>
--
On 7/12/2013 7:51 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 7/11/2013 12:20 AM, Bill wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> It's MUGGY tonight in SoCal.
>>>
>>> Very unusual for SoCal.
>>>
>>> If I didn't know better, I'd swear I was in corn growing country back
>>> in the Midwest.
>> FWIW, It's rained just about every day for a week now here in the
>> midwest (IN).
>> One evening we even had fog, which is pretty rare.
> ...
>
> FWIW, it hasn't rained on us (SW KS) in nearly a month and we've had
> barely 3" for the year...on YTD we're behind even the worst of the
> dirty-30's...otoh, it has finally this year (as opposed to previous two)
> rained some in the middle/eastern parts of the state as well as OK/NE...
>
> <http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/DM_highplains.htm>
>
It is interesting how the weather is cyclic. After a number of years
with low rain Fort Wayne Indiana is getting a lot of rain like much of
the eastern US.
I found an article in the Reading Eagle dated June 18 1868 (Reading
Pennsylvania) about the storms in the Fort Wayne area. It is described
as "the most terrible thunder and rain storms that have ever been
witnessed."
It goes on to say that one man was killed during the storm. It continues
talk about the hundreds of feet of railroad track destroyed and bridges
washed out. It talks about many families "washed" out of their homes.
It finishes by say the destruction to property is immense and they
have no idea of the cost as it has not yet been assessed.
Interesting nearly 100 years later with the use of current phraseology,
the story could have be taken from any newspaper today
On 7/12/2013 10:08 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 09:00:15 -0400, "G. Ross" <[email protected]>
>> Somehow I feel deprived. I have never even seen a subway except on
>> TV. The last (and only) time I have ridden in a taxi was in Osaka
>> 1981. There is only one elevator in town--in the courthouse. It has
>> two stories.
>
> Sounds like a town where everyone knows everyone else. I can think of
> some distinct advantages to that. Guess there's some disadvantages as
> well.
>
I believe the advantages of a rural area far out weigh the
disadvantages, In fact right now I can think of no disadvantages. I
live about 20 miles from Raleigh NC. The only time we go downtown, is
when there is no alternative.
Bill wrote:
> FWIW, It's rained just about every day for a week now here in the
> midwest (IN).
> One evening we even had fog, which is pretty rare.
Must be why the corn is WAY more than knee high and it wasn't even the 4th
of July (I was in Indiana end of June).
Lots of foggy mornings too, I remember that as normal.
--
dadiOH
____________________________
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Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
> I'll take the low humidity typical most of the year here in SoCal.
>
> Lew
You are welcome to it, Lew. I was in Oregon & Washington the first week of
July...it was so dry my legs were itching like crazy, all red and almost
raw. I would have been oozing blood if I hadn't kept them lathered with
hand lotion.
--
dadiOH
____________________________
Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net
[email protected] wrote:
> Not out of the ordinary the last 15 years or so to go from May 24 to
> labour day with less than 2 inches of rain here in central Ontario.
> "if the lawn is green in August, its not grass" - this year it's
> been raining at least weekly - the lawn grows 3 or 4 inches a week,
> and lots of fields are under water. Toronto Airport got over 5
> inches of rain in 2 hours - more than Hurricane Hazel dumped in
> total back in 1954. A couple weeks back the "holland marsh"
> vegetable growing area flooded - some areas under 10 feet of water.
Not trying to top you but I remember a year when Hilo, Hawaii got 72" - yes,
72 INCHES - of rain in a week.
--
dadiOH
____________________________
Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net
On 7/12/2013 9:51 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:21:06 -0400, Keith Nuttle
>> I
>> live about 20 miles from Raleigh NC. The only time we go downtown, is
>> when there is no alternative.
>
> That's a disadvantage right there. The disadvantages I was mainly
> thinking of were medical and health related. Hospitals, the support of
> emergency response teams, etcetera.
We have two major hospitals within about 20 minutes of our house. The
fire department is about 2.5 miles from our house. The emergency
response team works out of the fire station.
>
> How many people are in your town?
The nearest town is about 8 miles away. It is small and I don't know the
population but believe it is about 4600.
Our addition is about 500 people. Our addition has a swamp creek to the
west that is about a half mile wide from high ground to high ground.
On the other three sides are farm fields with Tobacco, Wheat, etc. There
are cattle and horse pastures.
We can see the stars, and there is no back ground noise from cars buses,
freeways and all of the other things that produce the back ground noise
in the City.
We have deer in the yard on a daily basis and a Red Shoulder Hawk hunts
our yard. Buzzards and other birds are all over the place.
Where will help come from if you experience a tornado or a flood? I'm
guessing that much of it will
> come from 20 miles away. That takes time.
If we experience a tornado the help will come from my neighbors. If
there were damaged houses, the neighbors will be there for any emergency.
We have several nurses who live quite close. I have a volunteer fireman
next door. We have axes, chainsaw, and all other equipment needed for
most emergencies. Several tractors and several ATV's The farmers
around here have some very large Farm equipment. We and several other
neighbor have a full complement of camping gear.
It is my experience that by the time the government remembers us, the
community will have everything under control.
When the official do arrive we will tell them what we need. With the ATV
and four wheeled vehicles, any injured will be on their way to the
hospital with neighbor qualified to handle the situation. There will be
no one wringing their hands asking what and when the government is going
to come and give them.
For Flood to be a consideration, we are high enough that half the county
will have to be flooded before water reaches us.
I have found that in an emergency, people accept the jobs the accident
put them into. While the newspaper talk about panic there is usually
only one or two people that loose it, and then only momentarily. People
in an emergency step in and do what is necessary.
PS I have been through several hurricanes, other storms and on a dock
where a fireworks bomb (about 10" in diameter)exploded in a group of
people, and seen how people come together in an emergency.
>
> I'm not saying there aren't any advantages, but smaller towns come
> with their own set of difficulties, many that a city might not
> experience.
>
On 7/15/2013 10:11 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> geoff <[email protected]> writes:
>> The song " A country boy can survive" comes to mind. City people rely
>> way too much on others coming to their aid.
>
> How does the country boy survive a heart attack, when the ambulance is
> an hour away?
>
He won't get a heart attack since he is not exposed to all of the
pollutant that are found in the air of the city ;-)
Scott Lurndal wrote:
> geoff <[email protected]> writes:
>> The song " A country boy can survive" comes to mind. City people
>> rely way too much on others coming to their aid.
>
> How does the country boy survive a heart attack, when the ambulance is
> an hour away?
Really? Just where do you live that an ambulance is an hour away?
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 23:45:40 -0400, Keith Nuttle
>I have found that in an emergency, people accept the jobs the accident
>put them into. While the newspaper talk about panic there is usually
>only one or two people that loose it, and then only momentarily. People
>in an emergency step in and do what is necessary.
Everything you describe sounds pretty great. I've long wished my
health was better so I could experience the full benefits of something
like you've described. But, that's not to be. I'm literally forced to
stay in the city where medical access, specialists and relatively easy
access are all available to me on a few minutes notice.
[email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:03:55 -0400, FrozenNorth
>>Tell me about it, that was scary, I am close to Pearson, 6 hour power
>>outage and no basement leaks, I consider myself lucky.
>
> I went through four hours of aggravation and consider myself lucky
> compared to many.
>
> - After a hospital appointment, waited 40 minutes for it to let up
> enough to dash for the subway.
> - Waited 45 minutes for the subway only to have it cancelled system
> wide.
> - Wandered around for an hour in a mall while waiting for Wheeltrans.
> - Then they told me they couldn't get me a ride.
> - Got soaked again going back to the hospital looking for a ride.
> - Got lucky, a friend saw me sitting by the side of the road and gave
> me a ride home.
>
> All it cost me was four hours and a soaking. Power was on and
> elevators were working when I got home and that's it. I was lucky
> compared to thousands of others.
Somehow I feel deprived. I have never even seen a subway except on
TV. The last (and only) time I have ridden in a taxi was in Osaka
1981. There is only one elevator in town--in the courthouse. It has
two stories.
--
GW Ross
Any bad habit is easier to maintain
than the corresponding good habit.