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Dan

24/10/2005 11:13 PM

Mulberry for a chisel handle?

I'm reconditioning an old socket chisel for my nephew who's due back from
Iraq just before Christmas. I'd like to use a nice piece of Mulberry from a
tree we took down a few years ago. The wood is pretty, it's got a little
meaning for both of us, and from the experiments I've tried, it'll be
fairly easy to shave into a handle. Not REALLY easy, but I know I can do
it. No lathe yet, but I'm getting pretty good with a spokeshave and
whittling.

I *think* this is a firmer chisel. It's about 6 1/2 inches long, 1 1/4
wide, and it's tapered, as in the blade's thicker at the top. It's got the
word "Sargent" stamped in the face.

I'm going to put a piece of rawhide at the top of the handle for striking.
What I'm wondering is, will the Mulberry be just too soft for this, and not
last even a few whacks with a mallet? I don't care if it wears out after
awhile, this is my first handle and I'll just make another one out of
cherry or something. He lives close by.

If Mulberry's really not suitable, I'd like to try that hunk of Mango I
brought back from vacation. Either the Mulberry for personal reasons, or
Mango just so he can tell his friends it's a handmade Mango handle.

But then, if both of those are poor choices, I'll go get some off-the-shelf
cherry or rosewood and use that. I'd really like to use one of those two,
though.

Dan


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n

in reply to Dan on 24/10/2005 11:13 PM

25/10/2005 12:57 AM

Hey Dan... I have turned a fair amount of mulberry. This can be an
ugly wood (sometimes it is really yellow) depending on what you want to
use it for, but it is very dense and really hard when completely dried.

I mean really hard. With a proper ferrule on it, the handle should
just about last as long as the chisel.

Robert

GG

"George"

in reply to Dan on 24/10/2005 11:13 PM

25/10/2005 7:47 AM


"Dan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm reconditioning an old socket chisel for my nephew who's due back from
> Iraq just before Christmas. I'd like to use a nice piece of Mulberry from
> a
> tree we took down a few years ago. The wood is pretty, it's got a little
> meaning for both of us, and from the experiments I've tried, it'll be
> fairly easy to shave into a handle. Not REALLY easy, but I know I can do
> it. No lathe yet, but I'm getting pretty good with a spokeshave and
> whittling.
>
> I *think* this is a firmer chisel. It's about 6 1/2 inches long, 1 1/4
> wide, and it's tapered, as in the blade's thicker at the top. It's got the
> word "Sargent" stamped in the face.
>
> I'm going to put a piece of rawhide at the top of the handle for striking.
> What I'm wondering is, will the Mulberry be just too soft for this, and
> not
> last even a few whacks with a mallet? I don't care if it wears out after
> awhile, this is my first handle and I'll just make another one out of
> cherry or something. He lives close by.

Mulberry should work, as long as it's got lots of annual rings in it.
Fast-grown stuff won't do it.

I guess I'm the only one who caught your socket chisel reference, so no
ferrules down at that end. Anti-mushrooming devices like a rawhide washer
or "schlagring" - slam ring - would work nicely up above, depends on what
you're most comfortable with. The rawhide would certainly be easier on a
whittled handle.

You'll want to fit the taper to the socket carefully. Push in, twist round,
reduce the slick spots until you have a reasonable fit. leave room at the
bottom, obviously

Ds

Dan

in reply to Dan on 24/10/2005 11:13 PM

25/10/2005 3:33 PM

On Tue 25 Oct 2005 02:43:14a, John B <[email protected]>
wrote in news:[email protected]:

> G'day Dan,
> I can't help much with the timber types but no matter what I used I'd
> put a metal feral on striking end as well as one where the chisel enters
> the handle.
> It will do a lot to strengthen the handle and the top one will reduce
> (if not elimate) mushrooming.
> Regards
> John

I thought much the same thing, till I ran into a guy with a full set of
tang chisels, all with new handles, that had thick rawhide both as a washer
where they met the base and as a striking plate. He soaked a new rawhide
dog chew toy and cut off pieces for the handles. Says he's been using them
heavily for years without a problem. He used cherry and he never hits them
with anything but a wooden mallet.

So, thanks folks, I think I'm going to give the mulberry a try. Chances
that it will work seem above average, chances that I'll learn something
appear to be 100%. :-)

If it doesn't hold up we'll just try something else.

JB

John B

in reply to Dan on 24/10/2005 11:13 PM

25/10/2005 7:43 AM

Dan wrote:
> I'm reconditioning an old socket chisel for my nephew who's due back from
> Iraq just before Christmas. I'd like to use a nice piece of Mulberry from a
> tree we took down a few years ago. The wood is pretty, it's got a little
> meaning for both of us, and from the experiments I've tried, it'll be
> fairly easy to shave into a handle. Not REALLY easy, but I know I can do
> it. No lathe yet, but I'm getting pretty good with a spokeshave and
> whittling.
>
> I *think* this is a firmer chisel. It's about 6 1/2 inches long, 1 1/4
> wide, and it's tapered, as in the blade's thicker at the top. It's got the
> word "Sargent" stamped in the face.
>
> I'm going to put a piece of rawhide at the top of the handle for striking.
> What I'm wondering is, will the Mulberry be just too soft for this, and not
> last even a few whacks with a mallet? I don't care if it wears out after
> awhile, this is my first handle and I'll just make another one out of
> cherry or something. He lives close by.
>
> If Mulberry's really not suitable, I'd like to try that hunk of Mango I
> brought back from vacation. Either the Mulberry for personal reasons, or
> Mango just so he can tell his friends it's a handmade Mango handle.
>
> But then, if both of those are poor choices, I'll go get some off-the-shelf
> cherry or rosewood and use that. I'd really like to use one of those two,
> though.
>
> Dan
G'day Dan,
I can't help much with the timber types but no matter what I used I'd
put a metal feral on striking end as well as one where the chisel enters
the handle.
It will do a lot to strengthen the handle and the top one will reduce
(if not elimate) mushrooming.
Regards
John

FC

Fly-by-Night CC

in reply to Dan on 24/10/2005 11:13 PM

24/10/2005 10:12 PM

In article <[email protected]>,
Dan <[email protected]> wrote:

> What I'm wondering is, will the Mulberry be just too soft for this, and not
> last even a few whacks with a mallet?

A suggestion Dan: post your message over on rec.crafts.woodturning. I
know there are turners on that group who have worked with mulberry so
you may get a quicker response than this group for non-commercial woods
like this.
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