You lying dog ... your first post on the wrec was Feb 17, 1996, apparently
before some of the current crop of posters were born.
;>)
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"George M. Kazaka" wrote in message
> It wasn't a question of lieing or taking your word for it,
> I have been with the Rec for about a month and have never seen as much
> mis-information in any one group as I have here.
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:41:00 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>They by in large tell me that most shops sluf them off as a pain in the ass
>they do not have the time to be bothered
On the flip side, how many of the shops have spent time helping
someone, only to have them drop a Visa on the desk?
Or said yes, only to deal with someone who is too lazy to research the
materials, and has no idea what they really want? <G>
Barry
You are very right Barry, I have a small shop and you will be suprised the
calls I get from people doing work at home and the shock they get when i say
come by and I'll give you the catalogue where you can get something.
Or that i have that hinge or drawer track
But to find that right person you really have to go through a bunch of
idiots.
They by in large tell me that most shops sluf them off as a pain in the ass
they do not have the time to be bothered and take the attitude that if they
show them then they won't get their business.
almost like the pastry chef giving out his recipe's.
George
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 00:01:58 GMT, Sam Kewl <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >For those of you who are lucky enough to have found a source for MDO:
>
> Look in your phone book under cabinet shops. Call them and ask " Will
> you retail some MDO to me?" If not, the second question can be "Where
> can I get MDO around here. Anytime you're looking for something, the
> second question should always be the same, if the answer to the first
> is "no".
>
> I've found on more than one occasion, the shop will sell to me.
> Commercial shops are not set up for credit cards, and personal checks
> are a hassle to them, so offering to pay cash can often help your
> cause.
>
> Establishing a good relationship with a local shop can open up a whole
> range of supply possibilities, from hardware to finishing supplies,
> and they may even do small cash jobs for you, like wide belt sanding a
> table top.
>
> I've dealt with local cabinet shops, metal shops, plastic shops, auto
> body shops, etc... Sole proprietorships are more likely to deal with
> you than corporate owned shops. Try to hook up with the owner.
>
> Barry
Sam Kewl wrote:
> For those of you who are lucky enough to have found a source for MDO:
> is there a company name or logo on the MDO telling you who makes the
> stuff? Maybe if we knew that, we could contact the manufacturer and
> find local distributors.
>
> Sam
A few manufacturers are:
Plum Creek Northwest Plywood
(406) 892-6312
Roseburg Forest Products
(514) 679-3311
Simpson Plywood
Eastern US - (800) 445-2442
Southeast US - (800) 782-7265
Western US - (800) 782-9378
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
George M. Kazaka wrote:
> Oh yes I can monopilize this NG with stories of odd calls and odd people
> dropping by my shop with odd requests.
> I do try to help people as much as possible, I do have a philosphy that has
> proven to be true many times over over the years.
> Its is that most people will always remember you for the kind helpfull deed
> you did for them and trust me you never know when the big one is coming. And
> I have benifited from these deeds many times.
> As 95% of my business is word of mouth recommendations you can never have
> enough people shooting their mouth off about you. Positive only never
> negative it takes many many positives to negate one negative.
George, I don't know about kind and helpful etc., but I guess it's the
same thing as treating people with respect. I could also bore the NG
with stories about why I took a contract (didn't pay much) and didn't
take a contract (paid a bunch).
Kinda wished I knew ya in G'Burg
Hank
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If you won't take my word for it, you can check out what the manufacturer
says about it:
http://www.simpson-plywood.com/intro.htm
Or what the APA (formerly American Plywood Association) says about it:
http://www.apawood.org/pdfs/managed/B360-M.pdf
I think you will find that they back my claim. I wouldn't lie about this
stuff.
I've seen acres of forms made from HDO and MDO plywood.
And uncountable thousands of square feet of soffits and panels.
On top of that there are other uses (marine and industrial for example)
which I have no knowledge of, but which seem to be consumers of the stuff as
well.
-Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]>
> Well Jack I will actually reserve comment on that till I check it out on
> Monday,
> All info i have ever had was it is used by the sign industry, and have
never
> know it to be used in concrete forms.
> Either way I will post what I find out on Monday.
>
> George
> > Um, actually it is used extensively in the construction industry for
> > concrete formwork. That is why simpson is one of the manufacturers.
> Signage probably accounts for a small fraction of sales, unless you are
making
> signs
> > which are as large as parking garages or highrises.
> >
> > -Jack
> >
> >
> > "George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > As a tip MDO is not generally used much in the cabinet or construction
> > > industry.
> > > It is a board made specifically for the sign business.
> > > Try calling some of the smaller sign shops and ask them where they get
> it
> > > from in your prospective market.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > > George
Sun, Oct 12, 2003, 12:01am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Sam=A0Kewl)
says:
For those of you who are lucky enough to have found a source for MDO: is
there a company name or logo on the MDO telling you who makes the stuff?
Maybe if we knew that, we could contact the manufacturer and find local
distributors.
Must the the generation gap, or something. First thing I would do
is grab my telephone book, start calling places, and asking them if they
sold it, or knew who did, if they didn't.
.
JOAT
There must be a hundred silver dollars in here. I can't handle that sort
o' money, you've gotta be in the league of lawyers to steal that much.
- J. H. "Flannelfoot" Boggis
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 9 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
George M. Kazaka wrote:
> Mesa, AZ
Drat... That's a little too far from Bowie, MD. <g>
-- Mark
> "Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> George M. Kazaka wrote:
>>
>>> I do try to help people as much as possible, I do have a philosphy
>>> that has proven to be true many times over over the years.
>>
>> <g> So where are you located?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- Mark
"George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> As a tip MDO is not generally used much in the cabinet or construction
> industry.
> It is a board made specifically for the sign business.
> Try calling some of the smaller sign shops and ask them where they get it
> from in your prospective market.
>
> Good Luck,
> George
Um, actually it is used extensively in the construction industry for
concrete formwork. That is why simpson is one of the manufacturers. Signage
probably accounts for a small fraction of sales, unless you are making signs
which are as large as parking garages or highrises.
-Jack
Mesa, AZ
"Mark Jerde" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> George M. Kazaka wrote:
>
> > I do try to help people as much as possible, I do have a philosphy
> > that has proven to be true many times over over the years.
>
> <g> So where are you located?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- Mark
>
>
I found MDO by contacting a local cabinet company, who put me in touch with
a plywood dealer. I also found that Paxton (owner of Woodcraft woodworking
stores) generall has MDO in stock. You have to forget the major consumer
chains (Borg, Lowe's etc) as they only carry high volume, fast moving
items..
Chris
"Sam Kewl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For those of you who are lucky enough to have found a source for MDO:
> is there a company name or logo on the MDO telling you who makes the
> stuff? Maybe if we knew that, we could contact the manufacturer and
> find local distributors.
>
> Sam
>
Oh yes I can monopilize this NG with stories of odd calls and odd people
dropping by my shop with odd requests.
I do try to help people as much as possible, I do have a philosphy that has
proven to be true many times over over the years.
Its is that most people will always remember you for the kind helpfull deed
you did for them and trust me you never know when the big one is coming. And
I have benifited from these deeds many times.
As 95% of my business is word of mouth recommendations you can never have
enough people shooting their mouth off about you. Positive only never
negative it takes many many positives to negate one negative.
"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." <[email protected]> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 07:41:00 -0700, "George M. Kazaka"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >They by in large tell me that most shops sluf them off as a pain in the
ass
> >they do not have the time to be bothered
>
> On the flip side, how many of the shops have spent time helping
> someone, only to have them drop a Visa on the desk?
>
> Or said yes, only to deal with someone who is too lazy to research the
> materials, and has no idea what they really want? <G>
>
> Barry
If anyone that can pick it up in Mesa, Az needs any let me know I can order
it in for you,
Last time I bought some about 6 months ago 1/2" with Paper 2 sides was about
28.00 per sheet.
It take's 3 to 4 days to get it.
I can get all the current prices on Monday
As a tip MDO is not generally used much in the cabinet or construction
industry.
It is a board made specifically for the sign business.
Try calling some of the smaller sign shops and ask them where they get it
from in your prospective market.
Good Luck,
George
George
"T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Sun, Oct 12, 2003, 12:01am (EDT+4) [email protected] (Sam Kewl)
says:
For those of you who are lucky enough to have found a source for MDO: is
there a company name or logo on the MDO telling you who makes the stuff?
Maybe if we knew that, we could contact the manufacturer and find local
distributors.
Must the the generation gap, or something. First thing I would do
is grab my telephone book, start calling places, and asking them if they
sold it, or knew who did, if they didn't.
.
JOAT
There must be a hundred silver dollars in here. I can't handle that sort
o' money, you've gotta be in the league of lawyers to steal that much.
- J. H. "Flannelfoot" Boggis
Life just ain't life without good music. - JOAT
Web Page Update 9 Oct 2003.
Some tunes I like.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Jakofalltrades/SOMETUNESILIKE/
Here you go, I did a Copernic search
http://www.simpson-plywood.com/crezon.htm
http://www.coxlumber.com/mdo_hdo.html
http://www.rfpco.com/product_mdo.htm
http://www.pacificwoodlaminates.com/products/siding.php
"Sam Kewl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For those of you who are lucky enough to have found a source for MDO:
> is there a company name or logo on the MDO telling you who makes the
> stuff? Maybe if we knew that, we could contact the manufacturer and
> find local distributors.
>
> Sam
>
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> For those of you who are lucky enough to have found a source for MDO:
> is there a company name or logo on the MDO telling you who makes the
> stuff? Maybe if we knew that, we could contact the manufacturer and
> find local distributors.
>
Don't know about manufacturers, but I get mine at Windsor Plywood. They
only have US stores in WA, but they're all over Canada.
--
Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?
On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 00:01:58 GMT, Sam Kewl <[email protected]>
wrote:
>For those of you who are lucky enough to have found a source for MDO:
Look in your phone book under cabinet shops. Call them and ask " Will
you retail some MDO to me?" If not, the second question can be "Where
can I get MDO around here. Anytime you're looking for something, the
second question should always be the same, if the answer to the first
is "no".
I've found on more than one occasion, the shop will sell to me.
Commercial shops are not set up for credit cards, and personal checks
are a hassle to them, so offering to pay cash can often help your
cause.
Establishing a good relationship with a local shop can open up a whole
range of supply possibilities, from hardware to finishing supplies,
and they may even do small cash jobs for you, like wide belt sanding a
table top.
I've dealt with local cabinet shops, metal shops, plastic shops, auto
body shops, etc... Sole proprietorships are more likely to deal with
you than corporate owned shops. Try to hook up with the owner.
Barry
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (T.) wrote:
> Must the the generation gap, or something. First thing I would do
> is grab my telephone book, start calling places, and asking them if they
> sold it, or knew who did, if they didn't.
Yep, my local lumberyard sells the stuff - both 1/2" and 3/4" two-faced
- and I live in a small town (18,500 peeps).
To the OP, call a real lumberyard - not a pseudo-warehouse, big-box
store. Some place that has a lot stacked with lumber, a pole-building
housing the sheet goods and a lean-to shed barely protecting a 1967
Delta radial-alarm saw from the elements - you know, your Dad's kind of
lumberyard.
--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
Offering a shim for the Porter-Cable 557 type 2 fence design.
<http://www.flybynightcoppercompany.com>
<http://www.easystreet.com/~onlnlowe/index.html>
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 23:39:56 -0400 (EDT), [email protected]
(T.) wrote:
> Must the the generation gap, or something. First thing I would do
>is grab my telephone book, start calling places, and asking them if they
>sold it, or knew who did, if they didn't.
No, it's not! I'm in my 30's and I do this all the time. <G>
Unfortunately, since so much is available with a point and click,
people quickly forget about phone books, libraries, and face to face
business.
Barry
It wasn't a question of lieing or taking your word for it,
I have been with the Rec for about a month and have never seen as much
mis-information in any one group as I have here.
Being as how I have always known it to be a signage product.
As I said I would check it out, which I do not have to for you have done
that for me.
As they say live and learn.,
I know my supplier of plywood does not stock it, He gets it from some other
distributer.
And I do know the signage folks love the shit to death because of the smooth
paint job they get from it.
Thank you,
George
"JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you won't take my word for it, you can check out what the manufacturer
> says about it:
> http://www.simpson-plywood.com/intro.htm
>
> Or what the APA (formerly American Plywood Association) says about it:
> http://www.apawood.org/pdfs/managed/B360-M.pdf
>
> I think you will find that they back my claim. I wouldn't lie about this
> stuff.
> I've seen acres of forms made from HDO and MDO plywood.
> And uncountable thousands of square feet of soffits and panels.
> On top of that there are other uses (marine and industrial for example)
> which I have no knowledge of, but which seem to be consumers of the stuff
as
> well.
>
> -Jack
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]>
>
>
> > Well Jack I will actually reserve comment on that till I check it out on
> > Monday,
> > All info i have ever had was it is used by the sign industry, and have
> never
> > know it to be used in concrete forms.
> > Either way I will post what I find out on Monday.
> >
> > George
> > > Um, actually it is used extensively in the construction industry for
> > > concrete formwork. That is why simpson is one of the manufacturers.
> > Signage probably accounts for a small fraction of sales, unless you are
> making
> > signs
> > > which are as large as parking garages or highrises.
> > >
> > > -Jack
> > >
> > >
> > > "George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > > As a tip MDO is not generally used much in the cabinet or
construction
> > > > industry.
> > > > It is a board made specifically for the sign business.
> > > > Try calling some of the smaller sign shops and ask them where they
get
> > it
> > > > from in your prospective market.
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck,
> > > > George
>
>
Well Jack I will actually reserve comment on that till I check it out on
Monday,
All info i have ever had was it is used by the sign industry, and have never
know it to be used in concrete forms.
Either way I will post what I find out on Monday.
George
JD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "George M. Kazaka" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > As a tip MDO is not generally used much in the cabinet or construction
> > industry.
> > It is a board made specifically for the sign business.
> > Try calling some of the smaller sign shops and ask them where they get
it
> > from in your prospective market.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> > George
>
> Um, actually it is used extensively in the construction industry for
> concrete formwork. That is why simpson is one of the manufacturers.
Signage
> probably accounts for a small fraction of sales, unless you are making
signs
> which are as large as parking garages or highrises.
>
> -Jack
>
>