Mt

"Max"

24/10/2011 1:59 PM

"Nibs" and raised grain

Having read some of the posts about the subject line I thought I would toss
out my experience.
Most of what I make gets a generous coat of Watco Danish oil after sanding
to 320. After allowing as much as will soak in I wipe as dry as I can.
Allowing overnight drying I then apply a coat of Minwax quick drying poly,
either gloss, semi-gloss or (my preference) satin. Sometimes one coat will
do. More often, two or three coats. (especially with gloss). Most often I
spray but I have used a brush when the weather absolutely prevented my
spraying outside. (Not often in El Paso)
Unless I use a water based poly (which I use on drawers) I very rarely have
a problem with "nibs" or raised grain.
And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotton
T-shirts)
I use that process on the majority of my projects.
On the rest I follow "Nailshooters" directions. <G>

Max


This topic has 22 replies

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

25/10/2011 7:13 AM

"Han" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
>> cotton T-shirts)
>
> I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore.
> Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?
>
> --
> Best regards
> Han
> email address is invalid


Most of my tack cloths are made from the "wipe down" of Danish oil. I store
them in quart jars.
But *if* I need to make one I use varnish "slightly" diluted with thinner.

If I'm using a water based poly, or a latex (rarely) finish, I use a damp
(water) rag (wrung out well).

Max

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 10:04 AM

"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>>I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them
>>running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash
>>them separately.
>
> Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept
> seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff.
> Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I
> used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over
> a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the
> rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly.
>
> Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely
> grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish
> it.


I used microfiber on my glasses (polycarbonate) and it eventually scratched
them (Microfine scratches) :-)

Max

Mt

"Max"

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 2:31 PM

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ,

"Max" wrote:
>>I used microfiber on my glasses (polycarbonate) and it eventually
>>scratched
>>them (Microfine scratches) :-)
>
> Perhaps you should have eventually washed them sooner. (microhumor)
>
> --
> Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace.
-- Robert J. Sawyer

Hate when that happens.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

25/10/2011 5:48 AM

On 25 Oct 2011 11:27:59 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
>> cotton T-shirts)
>
>I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore.
>Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?

Han, if you ever want to find out something like this, open your
browser and type in "how make -----", where ----- is the item of
query. "How-to" info is rampant on the Web. Some of it is even
usable! <wink>

http://goo.gl/3O8LE "how make tack rag" nets 2.5M hits. Have fun!

--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson

Du

Dave

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 8:50 PM

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:05:17 -0400, "dadiOH" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>More likely, whatever you were wiping off your glasses scratched them

Not that I've been able to see.

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 4:28 PM

On 10/26/2011 3:20 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:16:06 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/26/2011 9:30 AM, Dave wrote:
>>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them
>>>> running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash
>>>> them separately.
>>>
>>> Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept
>>> seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff.
>>> Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I
>>> used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over
>>> a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the
>>> rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly.
>>>
>>> Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely
>>> grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish
>>> it.
>>
>> Great for wiping down appliances, and counter tops, they don't leave
>> streaks. I use "2" 16x16 towels to dry my pick-up after I wash it.
>
> I use a squeegee, beach towel, and chamois on my pickup.

I used too but not any more!



>
>
>> Bona floor products uses a micro fiber towel on their mops. I saw just
>> the mop at a trade show and water was being used as the solvent, saw the
>> guy open an Ozarka bottle of water, take a drink out of it and then pour
>> a bit on a heel scuff mark on tile. The water and the microfiber towel
>> took the mark up. With stubborn marks I simply stand on the mop and rub
>> with my foot.
>
> I really like a mop which can do that.

But you have to drench the mop and a mop is more expensive.




>
>
>> They also work as a great sponge, I now soak up the bottom of a toilet
>> tank with a micro fiber towel when replacing the valve assembly.
>
> I find mopping the floor easier in most cases. In my carpeted master
> bath, I think those would be a boon.

Not when you are doing it for a customer.


>
>
>> Good for dusting and as you have seen cleaning and or drying your glasses.
>
> Ditto.
>
> --
> Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace.
> -- Robert J. Sawyer

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 6:39 AM

On 10/26/2011 1:59 AM, Richard wrote:
> On 10/25/2011 1:03 PM, dadiOH wrote:
>> Han wrote:
>>> "Max"<[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
>>>> cotton T-shirts)
>>>
>>> I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it,
>>> anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?
>>
>> Larry gave you the answer (page to). You can also use microfiber rags. I
>> have no idea of their efficacy compared to varnish impregnated tack
>> rags but
>> they do a great job of cleaning off sawdust,
>>
>
> They also collect all the old dryer sheets in any load of clothes!
>

IIRC you are not suppose to use those sheets/fabric softeners when
washing and drying microfiber towels.

Hn

Han

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

25/10/2011 11:27 AM

"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
> cotton T-shirts)

I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore.
Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Hn

Han

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

25/10/2011 8:52 PM

"dadiOH" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Han wrote:
>> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
>>> cotton T-shirts)
>>
>> I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it,
>> anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?
>
> Larry gave you the answer (page to). You can also use microfiber
> rags. I have no idea of their efficacy compared to varnish
> impregnated tack rags but they do a great job of cleaning off sawdust,

Thanks all for your informative answers!!!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Rc

Richard

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 1:59 AM

On 10/25/2011 1:03 PM, dadiOH wrote:
> Han wrote:
>> "Max"<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
>>> cotton T-shirts)
>>
>> I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it,
>> anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?
>
> Larry gave you the answer (page to). You can also use microfiber rags. I
> have no idea of their efficacy compared to varnish impregnated tack rags but
> they do a great job of cleaning off sawdust,
>

They also collect all the old dryer sheets in any load of clothes!

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

25/10/2011 8:36 AM

On 10/25/2011 7:53 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On 25 Oct 2011 11:27:59 GMT, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Max"<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
>>> cotton T-shirts)
>>
>> I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore.
>> Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?
>
> Oops, I forgot to add that I don't use a tack rag. I wipe the piece
> down with lacquer thinner to remove all my oily fingerprints and
> anything else which has contaminated the wood prior to finish.
> I strongly recommend this method. Mineral spirits can also be used.
>
> To me, this works a helluva lot better than a tack rag, but I don't
> like or use high-gloss finishes very often.

Agreed, I very seldom use a tack rag and it is not good to use one on
some finishes although I can't recall which and why.

Because I use gel varnishes 99% of the time a quick blow with my air
hose gets rid of the excess but I am typically standing in saw dust when
applying the finish and a fan is blowing. Care must be taken with the
fan blowing directly at me as it will cause the finish to dry too much
to wipe off the excess.

FH

Father Haskell

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

24/10/2011 3:01 PM

On Oct 24, 3:59=A0pm, "Max" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Having read some of the posts about the subject line I thought I would to=
ss
> out my experience.
> Most of what I make gets a generous coat of Watco Danish oil after sandin=
g
> to 320. =A0After allowing as much as will soak in I wipe as dry as I can.
> Allowing overnight drying I then apply a coat of Minwax quick drying poly=
,
> either gloss, semi-gloss or (my preference) satin. =A0Sometimes one coat =
will
> do. More often, two or three coats. (especially with gloss). =A0Most ofte=
n I
> spray but I have used a brush when the weather absolutely prevented my
> spraying outside. =A0(Not often in El Paso)
> Unless I use a water based poly (which I use on drawers) I very rarely ha=
ve
> a problem with "nibs" or raised grain.
> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100% cotto=
n
> T-shirts)
> I use that process on the majority of my projects.
> On the rest I follow "Nailshooters" directions. =A0<G>
>
> Max

Unless you start with Watco to pop the color, you
can use the same Minwax poly, cut 50%, as an
"oil" finish.

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 8:40 AM

On 10/26/2011 8:25 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:39:32 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>> IIRC you are not suppose to use those sheets/fabric softeners when
>> washing and drying microfiber towels.
>
> You do recall correctly. Just washed a few of mine. Instructions on
> them state no fabric softener/sheets.

I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them
running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash
them separately.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 1:20 PM

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:16:06 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 10/26/2011 9:30 AM, Dave wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>> I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them
>>> running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash
>>> them separately.
>>
>> Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept
>> seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff.
>> Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I
>> used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over
>> a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the
>> rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly.
>>
>> Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely
>> grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish
>> it.
>
>Great for wiping down appliances, and counter tops, they don't leave
>streaks. I use "2" 16x16 towels to dry my pick-up after I wash it.

I use a squeegee, beach towel, and chamois on my pickup.


>Bona floor products uses a micro fiber towel on their mops. I saw just
>the mop at a trade show and water was being used as the solvent, saw the
>guy open an Ozarka bottle of water, take a drink out of it and then pour
>a bit on a heel scuff mark on tile. The water and the microfiber towel
>took the mark up. With stubborn marks I simply stand on the mop and rub
>with my foot.

I really like a mop which can do that.


>They also work as a great sponge, I now soak up the bottom of a toilet
>tank with a micro fiber towel when replacing the valve assembly.

I find mopping the floor easier in most cases. In my carpeted master
bath, I think those would be a boon.


>Good for dusting and as you have seen cleaning and or drying your glasses.

Ditto.

--
Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace.
-- Robert J. Sawyer

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 11:04 AM

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:04:34 -0600, "Max" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>"Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>>I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them
>>>running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash
>>>them separately.
>>
>> Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept
>> seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff.
>> Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I
>> used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over
>> a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the
>> rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly.
>>
>> Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely
>> grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish
>> it.
>
>
>I used microfiber on my glasses (polycarbonate) and it eventually scratched
>them (Microfine scratches) :-)

Perhaps you should have eventually washed them sooner. (microhumor)

--
Learning to ignore things is one of the great paths to inner peace.
-- Robert J. Sawyer

Du

Dave

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 10:30 AM

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them
>running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash
>them separately.

Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept
seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff.
Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I
used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over
a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the
rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly.

Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely
grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish
it.

dd

"dadiOH"

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

25/10/2011 2:03 PM

Han wrote:
> "Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
>> cotton T-shirts)
>
> I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it,
> anymore. Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?

Larry gave you the answer (page to). You can also use microfiber rags. I
have no idea of their efficacy compared to varnish impregnated tack rags but
they do a great job of cleaning off sawdust,

--

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"dadiOH"

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 4:05 PM

Max wrote:
> "Dave" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>> I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of
>>> them running around here and when we get enough for a washer load
>>> we wash them separately.
>>
>> Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept
>> seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff.
>> Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I
>> used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over
>> a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the
>> rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly.
>>
>> Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most
>> definitely grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I
>> stain or finish it.
>
>
> I used microfiber on my glasses (polycarbonate) and it eventually
> scratched them (Microfine scratches) :-)


More likely, whatever you were wiping off your glasses scratched them


--

dadiOH
____________________________

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...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
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Jj

Jack

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

28/10/2011 8:33 AM

On 10/25/2011 8:48 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
> On 25 Oct 2011 11:27:59 GMT, Han<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Max"<[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
>>> cotton T-shirts)
>>
>> I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore.
>> Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?
>
> Han, if you ever want to find out something like this, open your
> browser and type in "how make -----", where ----- is the item of
> query. "How-to" info is rampant on the Web. Some of it is even
> usable!<wink>
>
> http://goo.gl/3O8LE "how make tack rag" nets 2.5M hits. Have fun!

Had he done this, he would never have found out that you use lacquer
thinner rather than a tack rag...

About nothing posted in this rec could not be found tramping around the net.

--
Jack
Add Life to your Days not Days to your Life.
http://jbstein.com

Du

Dave

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 9:25 AM

On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 06:39:32 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>IIRC you are not suppose to use those sheets/fabric softeners when
>washing and drying microfiber towels.

You do recall correctly. Just washed a few of mine. Instructions on
them state no fabric softener/sheets.

LJ

Larry Jaques

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

25/10/2011 5:53 AM

On 25 Oct 2011 11:27:59 GMT, Han <[email protected]> wrote:

>"Max" <[email protected]> wrote in
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> And I never fail to use a tack cloth. (I make my own from old, 100%
>> cotton T-shirts)
>
>I can't find the recipe for making tack cloth, or renewing it, anymore.
>Could you be so kind as to post it here again, please?

Oops, I forgot to add that I don't use a tack rag. I wipe the piece
down with lacquer thinner to remove all my oily fingerprints and
anything else which has contaminated the wood prior to finish.
I strongly recommend this method. Mineral spirits can also be used.

To me, this works a helluva lot better than a tack rag, but I don't
like or use high-gloss finishes very often.

--
It is characteristic of all deep human problems that they are
not to be approached without some humor and some bewilderment.
-- Freeman Dyson

Ll

Leon

in reply to "Max" on 24/10/2011 1:59 PM

26/10/2011 1:16 PM

On 10/26/2011 9:30 AM, Dave wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 08:40:49 -0500, Leon<lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>> I buy mine at the Sam's club, IIRC 24 for $12. We have about 36 of them
>> running around here and when we get enough for a washer load we wash
>> them separately.
>
> Honestly, I refused to buy microfibre products for some time. Kept
> seeing people everywhere using them for cleaning floors and stuff.
> Thought all the claims of what they could do were hyperbole. Then I
> used one to clean my glasses. It has been sitting on my desk for over
> a year, only wash it every six months. Yet, no matter how grungy the
> rag is, it always cleans my glasses lens perfectly.
>
> Been starting to wonder what else they can clean. They most definitely
> grab all the errant sawdust off my wood just before I stain or finish
> it.

Great for wiping down appliances, and counter tops, they don't leave
streaks. I use "2" 16x16 towels to dry my pick-up after I wash it.

Bona floor products uses a micro fiber towel on their mops. I saw just
the mop at a trade show and water was being used as the solvent, saw the
guy open an Ozarka bottle of water, take a drink out of it and then pour
a bit on a heel scuff mark on tile. The water and the microfiber towel
took the mark up. With stubborn marks I simply stand on the mop and rub
with my foot.

They also work as a great sponge, I now soak up the bottom of a toilet
tank with a micro fiber towel when replacing the valve assembly.

Good for dusting and as you have seen cleaning and or drying your glasses.


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