I've just started making a bow case of red oak (which will go outdoors
a lot) and will be floating the plywood top and bottom in ~1/8"
grooves which I'll be finishing w/ gloss lacquer from a spray can.
Since I had to source replacement wood for some pieces the colour of
them is off, so I've decided to ebonize it (w/ Higgins Fountain Pen
India ink --- essentially lamp black (carbon) in water unless someone
has a better solution).
Before that, I was planning on masking off the sides and spraying the
grooves w/ lacquer --- now I'll have to mask, then ebonize, then
spray, then sand the exposed edges after removing the masking tape,
then when I finish I'll have to mind all these edges....
Is the extra moisture resistance worth the extra work? Or am I wrong
in thinking this would help w/ making this more weather resistant at
all?
William
On Oct 25, 12:45=A0pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> I am not sure what kind of bow case you are making. =A0I have heard the
> bow front display cases referred to as "bow front cases", =A0and bow
> front furniture described in a similar fashion. =A0But I haven't seen
> anyone that took them outdoors.
>
> http://www.woodstore.net/bowfrdica.html
>
> If it was =A0case for bow and arrows, I would paint it.
It is:
http://www.3riversarchery.com/images/Contest2010/WilliamAdamsTakeDownCase.j=
pg
But I really want it to look at least somewhat natural.
> So to try to help with the obvious question of matching, unless you
> are going to dye the oak (my first choice would be Behlen's Solar Lux)
> then the more opaque the colorant applied, the more you will disguise
> mismatched wood colors and appearance. =A0Since I am not sure what you
> are making, my only comment would be that dyeing red oak with the
> Behlen's red mahogany will make it actually look like mahogany if you
> do it right.
Interesting. I'll have to keep that in mind as an option.
> More opaque colorants also give better UV resistance to the the wood.
> As far as taking the time to seal properly, red oak will move quite a
> bit due its porosity. =A0So don't just think about "wateproofing" but
> think along the lines of stabilizing the wood better to keep your
> project in better from the standpoint of moving panels, opening and
> closing joints, etc. =A0To me, anything that goes outside should be
> sealed.
Thanks. Excellent points --- sounds like it's worth the effort for me
to seal the grooves and the edges of the plywood top and bottom.
William
On Oct 25, 5:22=A0am, "William F. Adams ([email protected])"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I've just started making a bow case of red oak (which will go outdoors
> a lot) and will be floating the plywood top and bottom in ~1/8"
> grooves which I'll be finishing w/ gloss lacquer from a spray can.
>
> Since I had to source replacement wood for some pieces the colour of
> them is off, so I've decided to ebonize it (w/ Higgins Fountain Pen
> India ink --- essentially lamp black (carbon) in water unless someone
> has a better solution).
>
> Before that, I was planning on masking off the sides and spraying the
> grooves w/ lacquer --- now I'll have to mask, then ebonize, then
> spray, then sand the exposed edges after removing the masking tape,
> then when I finish I'll have to mind all these edges....
>
> Is the extra moisture resistance worth the extra work? Or am I wrong
> in thinking this would help w/ making this more weather resistant at
> all?
>
> William
I am not sure what kind of bow case you are making. I have heard the
bow front display cases referred to as "bow front cases", and bow
front furniture described in a similar fashion. But I haven't seen
anyone that took them outdoors.
http://www.woodstore.net/bowfrdica.html
If it was case for bow and arrows, I would paint it.
So to try to help with the obvious question of matching, unless you
are going to dye the oak (my first choice would be Behlen's Solar Lux)
then the more opaque the colorant applied, the more you will disguise
mismatched wood colors and appearance. Since I am not sure what you
are making, my only comment would be that dyeing red oak with the
Behlen's red mahogany will make it actually look like mahogany if you
do it right.
More opaque colorants also give better UV resistance to the the wood.
As far as taking the time to seal properly, red oak will move quite a
bit due its porosity. So don't just think about "wateproofing" but
think along the lines of stabilizing the wood better to keep your
project in better from the standpoint of moving panels, opening and
closing joints, etc. To me, anything that goes outside should be
sealed.
Robert
On Oct 25, 12:12=A0pm, "William F. Adams ([email protected])"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks. Excellent points --- sounds like it's worth the effort for me
> to seal the grooves and the edges of the plywood top and bottom.
I have never heard of or seen a plywood that wasn't meant to be
sealed. Even the treated stuff is covered with paint or some kind of
finish.
If you can see your way to paint, use oil based enamel. Latex will
breathe a bit, and doesn't have the overall abrasion resistance a good
oil based enamel will have since the case will be used for transport.
Robert