"Leon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Paul T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:31:53 -0500, Leon wrote:
>>
>>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:4cfa0b14-cdeb-432f-
>> [email protected]...
>>>> Opinions, please.
>>>> NOT a Domino, but look at the price!
>>>> Credible manufacturer to boot.
>>>>
>>>> http://busybeetools.ca/cgi-bin/picture10?&NTITEM=TC500DWL
>>>
>>> Does not show up at tritontools.com BUT I wonder how far apart the
>>> drill are.. May not be suitable for face frames or rail and stile
>>> cabinet doors.
>>
>> Web site that I found lists the drills has being 32mm between centers.
>>
>
> Yeah, that would be a bit too wide for face frames. 32mm OC is about
> 1.25" OC and then add at least .25" for the radius of the two dowels and
> if not perfectly centered on a 1.5" wide face frame you would have a blow
> out on one side or the other. I'd say a minimum of 2" for the face
> frames.
AAMOF the face frames in my kitchen are 1.75", it would not have worked on
them.
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:52:48 -0500, "Leon" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>I have been using this jig and bit assy. since before 1998. Pick one up
>while you are getting your Domino. ;~)
Actually, I mispoke when I said I've not bought a jig. I bought a few
of these some time ago, but usually can't find them when I'm ready to
drill holes for my shelving inserts.
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=32317&cat=1,180,42311
On Jun 12, 11:26=A0pm, Larry Jaques <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:16:15 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
> <[email protected]> wrote the following:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Jun 12, 5:52=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> >>news:[email protected]...
>
> >> > On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:05:30 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >>Probably comes with a jig attachment for shelf pins, too.
>
> >> > That might be a handy tool if some sort of incremental jig attachmen=
t
> >> > was formulated for shelf pins, except for the cost of the tool over =
a
> >> > simple jig.
>
> >> > I've always just marked shelf pin holes with a ruler and pencil and
> >> > then gone at them with a forstner bit and a piece of tap to indicate
> >> > depth. Guess I'm too cheap to buy a manufactured jig of some sort.
> >> > Admittedly, I've been fortunate not to blast through some project
> >> > coming out the finished side.
>
> >> I have been using this jig and bit assy. since before 1998. =A0Pick on=
e up
> >> while you are getting your Domino. =A0;~)
>
> >>http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=3D5876&filter=3Dshelf%20pin%20j=
ig...
>
> >Naa, I'll do it the old-fashioned way:
> >http://www.cabinetpartspro.com/features.htm
>
> The old-fashioned _CNC_ way, eh, Toy? =A0Can you recommend any books on
> getting into CNC wooddorking?
>
> --
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Impeach 'em ALL!
> =A0 ----------------------------------------------------
The forums (fora) are a great place to start. CNC Zone is one, the
forum on Shopbottools.com is another (imo, better) and more
specifically the different areas on the Vectric site.
The Vectric site deals with all levels of CNC operations pertaining to
their (in my case Aspire) software.
I am not aware of a book for wooddorkers per se. Much of the CNC
literature out there seems to be dealing with more industrial stuff
like machine shops and mass production.
Start off at the Shopbot site.
r
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:16:15 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
<[email protected]> wrote the following:
>On Jun 12, 5:52 pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> > On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:05:30 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>Probably comes with a jig attachment for shelf pins, too.
>>
>> > That might be a handy tool if some sort of incremental jig attachment
>> > was formulated for shelf pins, except for the cost of the tool over a
>> > simple jig.
>>
>> > I've always just marked shelf pin holes with a ruler and pencil and
>> > then gone at them with a forstner bit and a piece of tap to indicate
>> > depth. Guess I'm too cheap to buy a manufactured jig of some sort.
>> > Admittedly, I've been fortunate not to blast through some project
>> > coming out the finished side.
>>
>> I have been using this jig and bit assy. since before 1998. Pick one up
>> while you are getting your Domino. ;~)
>>
>> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5876&filter=shelf%20pin%20jig...
>
>Naa, I'll do it the old-fashioned way:
>http://www.cabinetpartspro.com/features.htm
The old-fashioned _CNC_ way, eh, Toy? Can you recommend any books on
getting into CNC wooddorking?
--
Impeach 'em ALL!
----------------------------------------------------
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:45:59 GMT, "Paul T." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Web site that I found lists the drills has being 32mm between centers.
Basically, it's about 1.25 inches which could be considered suitable
for the average rail and stile face frame of >2 inches?
On Jun 12, 5:52=A0pm, "Leon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:05:30 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >>Probably comes with a jig attachment for shelf pins, too.
>
> > That might be a handy tool if some sort of incremental jig attachment
> > was formulated for shelf pins, except for the cost of the tool over a
> > simple jig.
>
> > I've always just marked shelf pin holes with a ruler and pencil and
> > then gone at them with a forstner bit and a piece of tap to indicate
> > depth. Guess I'm too cheap to buy a manufactured jig of some sort.
> > Admittedly, I've been fortunate not to blast through some project
> > coming out the finished side.
>
> I have been using this jig and bit assy. since before 1998. =A0Pick one u=
p
> while you are getting your Domino. =A0;~)
>
> http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=3D5876&filter=3Dshelf%20pin%20jig=
...
Naa, I'll do it the old-fashioned way:
http://www.cabinetpartspro.com/features.htm
"Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:4cfa0b14-cdeb-432f-ba9c-04f39adacfc4@r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> Opinions, please.
> NOT a Domino, but look at the price!
> Credible manufacturer to boot.
>
> http://busybeetools.ca/cgi-bin/picture10?&NTITEM=TC500DWL
Does not show up at tritontools.com BUT I wonder how far apart the drill
are.. May not be suitable for face frames or rail and stile cabinet doors.
"Upscale" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:05:30 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>>Probably comes with a jig attachment for shelf pins, too.
>
> That might be a handy tool if some sort of incremental jig attachment
> was formulated for shelf pins, except for the cost of the tool over a
> simple jig.
>
> I've always just marked shelf pin holes with a ruler and pencil and
> then gone at them with a forstner bit and a piece of tap to indicate
> depth. Guess I'm too cheap to buy a manufactured jig of some sort.
> Admittedly, I've been fortunate not to blast through some project
> coming out the finished side.
I have been using this jig and bit assy. since before 1998. Pick one up
while you are getting your Domino. ;~)
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5876&filter=shelf%20pin%20jighttp://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5876&filter=shelf%20pin%20jig
"Paul T." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:31:53 -0500, Leon wrote:
>
>> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:4cfa0b14-cdeb-432f-
> [email protected]...
>>> Opinions, please.
>>> NOT a Domino, but look at the price!
>>> Credible manufacturer to boot.
>>>
>>> http://busybeetools.ca/cgi-bin/picture10?&NTITEM=TC500DWL
>>
>> Does not show up at tritontools.com BUT I wonder how far apart the
>> drill are.. May not be suitable for face frames or rail and stile
>> cabinet doors.
>
> Web site that I found lists the drills has being 32mm between centers.
>
Yeah, that would be a bit too wide for face frames. 32mm OC is about 1.25"
OC and then add at least .25" for the radius of the two dowels and if not
perfectly centered on a 1.5" wide face frame you would have a blow out on
one side or the other. I'd say a minimum of 2" for the face frames.
On 6/12/10 1:02 PM, Upscale wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:45:59 GMT, "Paul T."<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Web site that I found lists the drills has being 32mm between centers.
>
> Basically, it's about 1.25 inches which could be considered suitable
> for the average rail and stile face frame of>2 inches?
Probably comes with a jig attachment for shelf pins, too.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
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On 6/12/10 2:11 PM, Upscale wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:05:30 -0500, -MIKE-<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Probably comes with a jig attachment for shelf pins, too.
>
> That might be a handy tool if some sort of incremental jig attachment
> was formulated for shelf pins, except for the cost of the tool over a
> simple jig.
>
> I've always just marked shelf pin holes with a ruler and pencil and
> then gone at them with a forstner bit and a piece of tap to indicate
> depth. Guess I'm too cheap to buy a manufactured jig of some sort.
> Admittedly, I've been fortunate not to blast through some project
> coming out the finished side.
I've drilled for European style hinges with just a hand held cordless
drill, the key is measuring twice, never failed me yet.
The best was a double door closet, three holes each, the doors are about
7 1/2 feet tall, working just fine after about 8 years. Lots of
compliments on them.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 6/12/10 1:11 PM, Upscale wrote:
>>
>> Probably comes with a jig attachment for shelf pins, too.
>
> That might be a handy tool if some sort of incremental jig attachment
> was formulated for shelf pins, except for the cost of the tool over a
> simple jig.
>
I think they had multi-tasking in mind. If you're going to make a double
doweling machine, my not make the spacing a "standard" used in other
operations.
I don't think anyone buys it for shelf pins, but when it's sitting on
the shelf (pun) and you need to drill pin holes, go ahead and grab it.
--
-MIKE-
"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com
[email protected]
---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:05:30 -0500, -MIKE- <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
>Probably comes with a jig attachment for shelf pins, too.
That might be a handy tool if some sort of incremental jig attachment
was formulated for shelf pins, except for the cost of the tool over a
simple jig.
I've always just marked shelf pin holes with a ruler and pencil and
then gone at them with a forstner bit and a piece of tap to indicate
depth. Guess I'm too cheap to buy a manufactured jig of some sort.
Admittedly, I've been fortunate not to blast through some project
coming out the finished side.
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:31:53 -0500, Leon wrote:
> "Robatoy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:4cfa0b14-cdeb-432f-
[email protected]...
>> Opinions, please.
>> NOT a Domino, but look at the price!
>> Credible manufacturer to boot.
>>
>> http://busybeetools.ca/cgi-bin/picture10?&NTITEM=TC500DWL
>
> Does not show up at tritontools.com BUT I wonder how far apart the
> drill are.. May not be suitable for face frames or rail and stile
> cabinet doors.
Web site that I found lists the drills has being 32mm between centers.