DM

Doug Miller

14/02/2018 4:46 AM

Wood ID help?

Anybody have any idea what this is?

http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg

Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
probably shows between 7 and 8.

The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).

It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly lightweight -- suggestive
of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is definitely not right, for that.
Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.

I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less local origin -- it's
been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.

Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?


This topic has 26 replies

Ll

Leon

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

13/02/2018 11:24 PM

Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>
> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>
> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>
> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>
> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
> lightweight -- suggestive
> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
> definitely not right, for that.
> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>
> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
> local origin -- it's
> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>
> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>

Ash

h

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 7:08 AM

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 04:46:15 -0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Anybody have any idea what this is?
>
>http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>
>Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
>probably shows between 7 and 8.
>The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly lightweight -- suggestive
>of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is definitely not right, for that.
>Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less local origin -- it's
>been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
>somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?


... from this site ?

http://www.wood-database.com/coffeetree/

The 10 x end grain close-up photos are neat.
John T.

Sc

Sonny

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

16/02/2018 7:27 AM

On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 10:09:57 PM UTC-6, Markem wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:02:15 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>=20
> >On 2/14/2018 10:58 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> >> On 2/14/2018 8:01 PM, Doug Miller wrote:

> >>>>> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inche=
s=20
> >>>>> wide,



> >>=20
> >I take back the butternut, Osage Orange? It looks it.
> >http://www.wood-database.com/osage-orange/
> =20
> Like teak Osage has a high silca content, it laughs at chain saws.

Some comments about Osage:
I think it would be rare for an osage tree to be large enough for a 9" (+?)=
wide board, especially of any good length. The bark doesn't look like os=
age, either.
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/osage%20orange.htm

A friend had made a shaving horse with osage, left it raw, not finished. =
He simply burnished it, resulting in a really smooth surface. The aged pa=
tina looked really nice, sort of turned a hint of brown, somewhat, kinna li=
ke as if it was slightly fumed. =20

Sonny

k

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 9:55 PM

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 12:28:42 -0800 (PST), Jay Pique
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 12:24:46 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Anybody have any idea what this is?
>> >
>> > http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>> >
>> > Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
>> > probably shows between 7 and 8.
>> >
>> > The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>> >
>> > It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
>> > lightweight -- suggestive
>> > of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>> > definitely not right, for that.
>> > Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>> >
>> > I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>> > local origin -- it's
>> > been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
>> > somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>> >
>> > Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>> >
>>
>> Ash
>
>+1 on Leon's "ash".

+2. I have a few hundred bf of it in the basement.

JP

Jay Pique

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 12:28 PM

On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 12:24:46 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Anybody have any idea what this is?
> >
> > http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
> >
> > Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
> > probably shows between 7 and 8.
> >
> > The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
> >
> > It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
> > lightweight -- suggestive
> > of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
> > definitely not right, for that.
> > Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
> >
> > I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
> > local origin -- it's
> > been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
> > somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
> >
> > Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
> >
>
> Ash

+1 on Leon's "ash".

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

15/02/2018 1:01 AM

"John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> "Doug Miller" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>Anybody have any idea what this is?
>
>>http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>
>>Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide,
>>and the photo
>>probably shows between 7 and 8.
>
>>The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>
>>It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
>>lightweight -- suggestive
>>of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>>definitely not right, for that.
>>Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>
>>I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>>local origin -- it's
>>been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years.
>>Likely to be from
>>somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>
>>Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>
> It looks like ash to me... with perhaps some mineral or other staining on
> the left (e.g., embedded metal).

I guess I should have mentioned that there was a strong light over my left shoulder when I
took the photo. That "discoloration" on the left is actually the shadow of the stack of boards
to the left of the mystery wood.

I still don't think it's ash -- it looks too yellow.

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

15/02/2018 1:06 AM

Leon <[email protected]> wrote in news:27925409.540278629.491935.lcb11211-
[email protected]:

> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>
>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>
[...]
>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>
> Ash

Maybe... but I don't think so. It's much yellower than any ash I've ever seen.

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

15/02/2018 1:38 AM

[email protected] wrote in news:[email protected]:

> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 04:46:15 -0000 (UTC), Doug Miller
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>
>>http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>
>>Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
>>probably shows between 7 and 8.
>>The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>>It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly lightweight --
suggestive
>>of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is definitely not right, for that.
>>Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>>I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less local origin -- it's
>>been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
>>somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>>Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>
>
> ... from this site ?
>
> http://www.wood-database.com/coffeetree/

Actually from woodidentification.net, and from memory (having seen some coffeetree at a
lumberyard a few years ago).
>
> The 10 x end grain close-up photos are neat.
> John T.

Yep. So is the information -- which I missed the first time I read either site -- that coffeetree
fluoresces under blacklight. I'll have to see if I can lay my hands on a blacklight.

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

15/02/2018 1:41 AM

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in news:p-WdndxlA98UQBnHnZ2dnUU7-
[email protected]:

> On 2/14/2018 7:01 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>>
>> I still don't think it's ash -- it looks too yellow.
>>
>
> This is all ash. The drawer fronts are solid ash, the top yellowish
> panel is ash veneer.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/40272613631/in/dateposted-public/
>

Nice work, Leon. Is that black ash?

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

15/02/2018 8:52 PM

woodchucker <[email protected]> wrote in news:Zcydnc11idT6mBjHnZ2dnUU7-
[email protected]:

> Any chance it's butternut, walnut's lighter cousin.

Much too hard to be butternut.
>

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

15/02/2018 8:56 PM

Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> [email protected] wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> The 10 x end grain close-up photos are neat.
>> John T.
>
> Yep. So is the information -- which I missed the first time I read either site -- that coffeetree
> fluoresces under blacklight. I'll have to see if I can lay my hands on a blacklight.

Borrowed a blacklight this afternoon, and planed a small patch of one board. With the board
illuminated only by the blacklight, yellow-green fluorscence is plainly visible.

Coffeetree it is!

DM

Doug Miller

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

17/02/2018 3:16 AM

Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On 2/15/2018 2:56 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> [email protected] wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> The 10 x end grain close-up photos are neat.
>>>> John T.
>>>
>>> Yep. So is the information -- which I missed the first time I
>>> read either site -- that coffeetree fluoresces under
>>> blacklight. I'll have to see if I can lay my hands on a
>>> blacklight.
>>
>> Borrowed a blacklight this afternoon, and planed a small patch
>> of one board. With the board illuminated only by the
>> blacklight, yellow-green fluorescence is plainly visible.
>>
>> Coffeetree it is!
>>
>
>
> Wow! Good call! How close was that board to a nuclear plant?
> '`)
>

LOL

GR

G Ross

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 1:56 AM

Doug Miller wrote:
> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>
> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>
> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>
> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>
> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly lightweight -- suggestive
> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is definitely not right, for that.
> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>
> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less local origin -- it's
> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>
> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>
Looks like chinaberry, but not sure if it grows there.

--
G Ross

wn

woodchucker

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 10:58 PM

On 2/14/2018 8:01 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> "Doug Miller" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>
>>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>
>>> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide,
>>> and the photo
>>> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>>
>>> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>>
>>> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
>>> lightweight -- suggestive
>>> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>>> definitely not right, for that.
>>> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>>
>>> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>>> local origin -- it's
>>> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years.
>>> Likely to be from
>>> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>>
>>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>
>> It looks like ash to me... with perhaps some mineral or other staining on
>> the left (e.g., embedded metal).
>
> I guess I should have mentioned that there was a strong light over my left shoulder when I
> took the photo. That "discoloration" on the left is actually the shadow of the stack of boards
> to the left of the mystery wood.
>
> I still don't think it's ash -- it looks too yellow.
>
Any chance it's butternut, walnut's lighter cousin.

--
Jeff

wn

woodchucker

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 11:02 PM

On 2/14/2018 10:58 PM, woodchucker wrote:
> On 2/14/2018 8:01 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> "Doug Miller"  wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>>
>>>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>>
>>>> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches
>>>> wide,
>>>> and the photo
>>>> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>>>
>>>> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out
>>>> oaks).
>>>
>>>> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and
>>>> surprisingly
>>>> lightweight -- suggestive
>>>> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>>>> definitely not right, for that.
>>>> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>>>
>>>> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>>>> local origin -- it's
>>>> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years.
>>>> Likely to be from
>>>> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>>>
>>>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>>
>>> It looks like ash to me... with perhaps some mineral or other
>>> staining on
>>> the left (e.g., embedded metal).
>>
>> I guess I should have mentioned that there was a strong light over my
>> left shoulder when I
>> took the photo. That "discoloration" on the left is actually the
>> shadow of the stack of boards
>> to the left of the mystery wood.
>>
>> I still don't think it's ash -- it looks too yellow.
>>
> Any chance it's butternut, walnut's lighter cousin.
>
I take back the butternut, Osage Orange? It looks it.
http://www.wood-database.com/osage-orange/

--
Jeff

DD

"Dr. Deb"

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 5:20 AM

On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 10:46:18 PM UTC-6, Doug Miller wrote:
> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>
> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>
> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>
> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>
> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly lightweight -- suggestive
> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is definitely not right, for that.
> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>
> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less local origin -- it's
> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>
> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?

When in doubt, and really wanting to know, send a bit to the Forest Products Lab in Wi. It will take them a bit to get and answer back, but you will know exactly what you are dealing with. Reclaim some of your tax dollars, because its a "free" service.

https://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/contact/index.php

k

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

15/02/2018 7:54 PM

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:16:10 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>On 2/14/2018 8:55 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 12:28:42 -0800 (PST), Jay Pique
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 12:24:46 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>>> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
>>>>> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>>>>>
>>>>> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
>>>>> lightweight -- suggestive
>>>>> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>>>>> definitely not right, for that.
>>>>> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>>>>> local origin -- it's
>>>>> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
>>>>> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ash
>>>
>>> +1 on Leon's "ash".
>>
>> +2. I have a few hundred bf of it in the basement.
>>
>You suck!

;-)

I've been carting it around the country with me for a long time [*].
It came with eight, 7-8' maple 2x10s, complete with tap holes (haven't
figured out what to do with it but it's purdy).

[*] Grown on a cow-orker's father's place in Alpena MI (*way* up on
the hand). I brought it back to NY. It followed me to Vermont, Ohio,
Alabama, and now Georgia. ;-)

Mm

Markem

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 10:09 PM

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:02:15 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 2/14/2018 10:58 PM, woodchucker wrote:
>> On 2/14/2018 8:01 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>>> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> "Doug Miller"  wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>>>
>>>>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>>>
>>>>> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches
>>>>> wide,
>>>>> and the photo
>>>>> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>>>>
>>>>> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out
>>>>> oaks).
>>>>
>>>>> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and
>>>>> surprisingly
>>>>> lightweight -- suggestive
>>>>> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>>>>> definitely not right, for that.
>>>>> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>>>>> local origin -- it's
>>>>> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years.
>>>>> Likely to be from
>>>>> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>>>>
>>>>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>>>
>>>> It looks like ash to me... with perhaps some mineral or other
>>>> staining on
>>>> the left (e.g., embedded metal).
>>>
>>> I guess I should have mentioned that there was a strong light over my
>>> left shoulder when I
>>> took the photo. That "discoloration" on the left is actually the
>>> shadow of the stack of boards
>>> to the left of the mystery wood.
>>>
>>> I still don't think it's ash -- it looks too yellow.
>>>
>> Any chance it's butternut, walnut's lighter cousin.
>>
>I take back the butternut, Osage Orange? It looks it.
>http://www.wood-database.com/osage-orange/

Like teak Osage has a high silca content, it laughs at chain saws.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 11:16 PM

On 2/14/2018 8:55 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 12:28:42 -0800 (PST), Jay Pique
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 12:24:46 AM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>>>
>>>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide, and the photo
>>>> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>>>>
>>>> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>>>>
>>>> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
>>>> lightweight -- suggestive
>>>> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>>>> definitely not right, for that.
>>>> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>>>>
>>>> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>>>> local origin -- it's
>>>> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years. Likely to be from
>>>> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>>>>
>>>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ash
>>
>> +1 on Leon's "ash".
>
> +2. I have a few hundred bf of it in the basement.
>
You suck!

Ll

Leon

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 11:14 PM

On 2/14/2018 7:41 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote in news:p-WdndxlA98UQBnHnZ2dnUU7-
> [email protected]:
>
>> On 2/14/2018 7:01 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>>>
>>> I still don't think it's ash -- it looks too yellow.
>>>
>>
>> This is all ash. The drawer fronts are solid ash, the top yellowish
>> panel is ash veneer.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/40272613631/in/dateposted-public/
>>
>
> Nice work, Leon. Is that black ash?
>

LOL, AAMOF Black and Red Ash. Good one Doug!

Mm

Markem

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 10:08 PM

On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 22:58:29 -0500, woodchucker <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 2/14/2018 8:01 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> "Doug Miller" wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>>
>>>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>>
>>>> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide,
>>>> and the photo
>>>> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>>>
>>>> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>>>
>>>> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
>>>> lightweight -- suggestive
>>>> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>>>> definitely not right, for that.
>>>> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>>>
>>>> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>>>> local origin -- it's
>>>> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years.
>>>> Likely to be from
>>>> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>>>
>>>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>>
>>> It looks like ash to me... with perhaps some mineral or other staining on
>>> the left (e.g., embedded metal).
>>
>> I guess I should have mentioned that there was a strong light over my left shoulder when I
>> took the photo. That "discoloration" on the left is actually the shadow of the stack of boards
>> to the left of the mystery wood.
>>
>> I still don't think it's ash -- it looks too yellow.
>>
>Any chance it's butternut, walnut's lighter cousin.

Might be have some english walnut here, they grow well in southern
Illinois.

https://goo.gl/qiWNZ6 Google pictures of the type.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

16/02/2018 6:03 PM

On 2/15/2018 2:56 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> [email protected] wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> The 10 x end grain close-up photos are neat.
>>> John T.
>>
>> Yep. So is the information -- which I missed the first time I read either site -- that coffeetree
>> fluoresces under blacklight. I'll have to see if I can lay my hands on a blacklight.
>
> Borrowed a blacklight this afternoon, and planed a small patch of one board. With the board
> illuminated only by the blacklight, yellow-green fluorscence is plainly visible.
>
> Coffeetree it is!
>


Wow! Good call! How close was that board to a nuclear plant? '`)

Ll

Leon

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 7:10 PM

On 2/14/2018 7:06 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> Leon <[email protected]> wrote in news:27925409.540278629.491935.lcb11211-
> [email protected]:
>
>> Doug Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>>
>>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>>
> [...]
>>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>>
>> Ash
>
> Maybe... but I don't think so. It's much yellower than any ash I've ever seen.
>

Take a look at my response below, and the link. I have a picture of a
chest I built for my wife's sewing stuff. All natural colored wood is ash.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 7:08 PM

On 2/14/2018 7:01 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> "Doug Miller" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>
>>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>
>>> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide,
>>> and the photo
>>> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>>
>>> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).
>>
>>> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
>>> lightweight -- suggestive
>>> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>>> definitely not right, for that.
>>> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>>
>>> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>>> local origin -- it's
>>> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years.
>>> Likely to be from
>>> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>>
>>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>
>> It looks like ash to me... with perhaps some mineral or other staining on
>> the left (e.g., embedded metal).
>
> I guess I should have mentioned that there was a strong light over my left shoulder when I
> took the photo. That "discoloration" on the left is actually the shadow of the stack of boards
> to the left of the mystery wood.
>
> I still don't think it's ash -- it looks too yellow.
>

This is all ash. The drawer fronts are solid ash, the top yellowish
panel is ash veneer.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb11211/40272613631/in/dateposted-public/

dx

"dadiOH"

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

15/02/2018 7:35 AM


"woodchucker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 2/14/2018 8:01 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
>> "John Grossbohlin" <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> "Doug Miller" wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>> Anybody have any idea what this is?
>>>
>>>> http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg
>>>
>>>> Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches
>>>> wide,
>>>> and the photo
>>>> probably shows between 7 and 8.
>>>
>>>> The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out
>>>> oaks).
>>>
>>>> It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and
>>>> surprisingly
>>>> lightweight -- suggestive
>>>> of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>>>> definitely not right, for that.
>>>> Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.
>>>
>>>> I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>>>> local origin -- it's
>>>> been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years.
>>>> Likely to be from
>>>> somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.
>>>
>>>> Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?
>>>
>>> It looks like ash to me... with perhaps some mineral or other staining
>>> on
>>> the left (e.g., embedded metal).
>>
>> I guess I should have mentioned that there was a strong light over my
>> left shoulder when I
>> took the photo. That "discoloration" on the left is actually the shadow
>> of the stack of boards
>> to the left of the mystery wood.
>>
>> I still don't think it's ash -- it looks too yellow.
>>
> Any chance it's butternut, walnut's lighter cousin.

Absolutely not, not even close.

I'm with Leon, et al. It's ash. My experience with ash is that it is VERY
yellow.

JG

"John Grossbohlin"

in reply to Doug Miller on 14/02/2018 4:46 AM

14/02/2018 9:37 AM

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>Anybody have any idea what this is?

>http://milmac.com/20180213_134524.jpg

>Photo doesn't show quite the full width of the board; it's 9+ inches wide,
>and the photo
>probably shows between 7 and 8.

>The wood has no perceptible odor, dry or damp (which also rules out oaks).

>It's hard enough that I can't dent it with a fingernail, and surprisingly
>lightweight -- suggestive
>of ash, I suppose, but the grain isn't quite right, and the color is
>definitely not right, for that.
>Not heavy enough for oak, and the grain isn't right, either.

>I'm located in Indianapolis, and the wood is presumably of more-or-less
>local origin -- it's
>been sitting in the corner of a high school wood shop for many years.
>Likely to be from
>somewhere in the Midwest, probably central Indiana.

>Kentucky coffee-tree, maybe?

It looks like ash to me... with perhaps some mineral or other staining on
the left (e.g., embedded metal). I've been felling and milling quite a bit
of ash the past few years and I've run into staining in some of the logs.
The grain varies depending on its orientation in the log when cut...


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