On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 06:09:16 -0400, Rob H. wrote:
> Need some help with the unusual shovel this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>
> Rob
Unfortunately, I'm generally not very good at these....
1903. Looks like one part of it should be turned the way you'd turn an
old-fashioned manual drill, but of course there's no visible drill bit
here.
1905. The original wire hanger that resulted in Christina Crawford
getting the shit beat out of her by Joan.
1906. For shovelling horses' hooves.
1908. Sex toy for all your kinky paddling needs. (Because we *all*
have kinky paddling needs.)
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1903 - Hand drill, the handle folds down?
1904 - part of an automated bell gong?
1905 - Tie Rack, (except for those sharp points?)
1906 - Flower / Tree planting shovel?
Or used to dig holes for feet to walk in the side of a hill?
1907 - grain / corn storage / driers
1908 - some type of paint brush?
Rob H. wrote:
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>
> Rob
On Apr 18, 5:54=A0pm, "Alexander Thesoso"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Coal ashes are not like wood ashes.
>
> While there may be variations, depending on the coal variety and size, in
> general, coal ash is very unpleasant glassy, gritty, dirty, heavy clinker=
.
> The impurities in the coal melt to a glassy slag, that fizzes, bubbles an=
d
> breaks into small sharp-edged pieces.
>
> "J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Jesse wrote:
> >> On Apr 17, 1:51 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> As for (1908) -- could it not have also been used for shoveling
> >>>> coal in a steam engine (locomotive)? =A0Pretty much the same constra=
ints
> >>>> there as for a furnace.
> >>> I'm sure it could have been used on a steam engine, someone told me t=
hey
> >>> saw
> >>> one in a fire museum where it was used with an old steam pumper, but
> >>> with a
> >>> patent date of 1938 it was invented after steam pumpers were no longe=
r
> >>> in
> >>> use.
>
> >>> Rob
>
> >> We had one that we used for an old Sunbeam coal furnace in our house
> >> in the 60's to early 70's. I wonder if it is still in my moms
> >> basement? I'll have to take a look when I get a chance.
>
> > Are coal ashes powdery like wood ashes? =A0Did you use the special shov=
el to
> > remove ashes as well as fetch coal?- Hide quoted text -
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We had a stoker furnace. It had augers that took the ashes out of the
furnace. The ashes would go up and into garbage cans that we would
take out and dump on the ash pile. So there was no need to shovel out
the furnace manually.
On Apr 15, 6:09=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Need some help with the unusual shovel this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
1903: Brace for drilling angled holes in handrails for stairs?
1906: Coal shovel
1907: Corn cribs
On Apr 15, 5:09=A0am, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Need some help with the unusual shovel this week:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
> Rob
Someone else already got them, but I agree that;
1904 some type of gas burner,
1907 corn cribs
Norm
On Apr 17, 1:51=A0pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > As for (1908) -- could it not have also been used for shoveling
> > coal in a steam engine (locomotive)? =A0Pretty much the same constraint=
s
> > there as for a furnace.
>
> I'm sure it could have been used on a steam engine, someone told me they =
saw
> one in a fire museum where it was used with an old steam pumper, but with=
a
> patent date of 1938 it was invented after steam pumpers were no longer in
> use.
>
> Rob
We had one that we used for an old Sunbeam coal furnace in our house
in the 60's to early 70's. I wonder if it is still in my moms
basement? I'll have to take a look when I get a chance.
I don't specifically recognize any of these this week, but ignorance doesn't
prevent guessing.
1903 Obviously an angle brace. Looks like it might be useful for sparkplugs
in V-8 engines.
1904 Gas burner, such as might be used in a gas range.
1905 Closet organizer, for belts?
1906 Measuring shovel, to put a specific quantity of hops into a beer mash?
1907 Tobacco drying sheds?
1908 Clip to hang something (paintbrush) on a wall for drip drying.
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> Need some help with the unusual shovel this week:
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> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
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>
> Rob
Rob H. wrote:
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>
> Rob
1906: It could be used to scoop muck and water out of a trough.
It also looks like an improvement over the common tin fire shovel. If
you use a little shovel to remove ashes, it's hard to put the ashes into
a bucket without raising dust. With 1906, you could carry the ashes
outside before dumping them into a bucket. It will hold a generous
amount and keep them from spilling or blowing. It looks pretty stable
in case you need to put it down.
A little fire shovel is inadequate to carry coals to start a fire. With
1906, you could reach into a stove with a hot fire and carry a generous
amount of embers securely.
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> 1903 - corner brace or, specifically, a gear frame brace.
Correct, for use in confined space when there would be interference with a
regular brace.
Rob
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> Rob
1903 Hand Drill
1904 Burner
1905 Bacon Hanger
http://www.sausagemaker.com/49340andnbsp8prongbaconhanger.aspx
1906 Use for salt or gravel
1907 Used to dry tobacco
1908 Coat hook that folds up
Robert
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> Rob
Perhaps 1906 is a coal shovel used on a steam locomotive?
phil
I had to look at it again. 1904 is a stove burner. It's
hanging on a nail, which throws the perspective off.
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Rob H. wrote:
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>
> Rob
1904 -- Predecessor of our modern electrical poles which
help distribute
electricity?
Bill
Naah, look at the round hook on the lower left. That gives
it away. Necktie holder for the closet.
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1905 -- Hanging (animal) hides to dry?
Good one! I can see it, now.
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Hi,
Number 1903 might be a plumbers tool to turn a helix for
cleanig stuffed
pipes?
>1906: Coal shovel
That's right! I had done some patent searching a couple days ago and didn't
find anything but just a few minutes ago I had some luck. The patent says
it's for loading coal into a furnace and not making a mess, see line 45:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=1dUBAAAAEBAJ&dq=2141007
Rob
> Perhaps 1906 is a coal shovel used on a steam locomotive?
> phil
One thing that I forgot to mention about the shovel, there is a metal sleeve
on the handle that supposedly makes it easier to rotate and release the
coal.
Only the last one was unsolved this week, the answers for this set can be
seen here:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/04/set-332.html#answers
Rob
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Perhaps 1906 is a coal shovel used on a steam locomotive?
>> phil
>
>
> One thing that I forgot to mention about the shovel, there is a metal
> sleeve on the handle that supposedly makes it easier to rotate and release
> the coal.
>
> Only the last one was unsolved this week, the answers for this set can be
> seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/04/set-332.html#answers
>
>
>
> Rob
Thank you for running the "game"!
Bill
Sure got me! that meat hanger looked a lot like a necktie
holder for in a closet. Of course, it would be dangerous to
get near it. Ouch.
Glad that I got one or two this week.
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"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Perhaps 1906 is a coal shovel used on a steam locomotive?
> phil
One thing that I forgot to mention about the shovel, there
is a metal sleeve
on the handle that supposedly makes it easier to rotate and
release the
coal.
Only the last one was unsolved this week, the answers for
this set can be
seen here:
http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/04/set-332.html#answers
Rob
> As for (1908) -- could it not have also been used for shoveling
> coal in a steam engine (locomotive)? Pretty much the same constraints
> there as for a furnace.
I'm sure it could have been used on a steam engine, someone told me they saw
one in a fire museum where it was used with an old steam pumper, but with a
patent date of 1938 it was invented after steam pumpers were no longer in
use.
Rob
Jesse wrote:
> On Apr 17, 1:51 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> As for (1908) -- could it not have also been used for shoveling
>>> coal in a steam engine (locomotive)? Pretty much the same constraints
>>> there as for a furnace.
>> I'm sure it could have been used on a steam engine, someone told me they saw
>> one in a fire museum where it was used with an old steam pumper, but with a
>> patent date of 1938 it was invented after steam pumpers were no longer in
>> use.
>>
>> Rob
>
> We had one that we used for an old Sunbeam coal furnace in our house
> in the 60's to early 70's. I wonder if it is still in my moms
> basement? I'll have to take a look when I get a chance.
Are coal ashes powdery like wood ashes? Did you use the special shovel
to remove ashes as well as fetch coal?
Coal ashes are not like wood ashes.
While there may be variations, depending on the coal variety and size, in
general, coal ash is very unpleasant glassy, gritty, dirty, heavy clinker.
The impurities in the coal melt to a glassy slag, that fizzes, bubbles and
breaks into small sharp-edged pieces.
"J Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Jesse wrote:
>> On Apr 17, 1:51 pm, "Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> As for (1908) -- could it not have also been used for shoveling
>>>> coal in a steam engine (locomotive)? Pretty much the same constraints
>>>> there as for a furnace.
>>> I'm sure it could have been used on a steam engine, someone told me they
>>> saw
>>> one in a fire museum where it was used with an old steam pumper, but
>>> with a
>>> patent date of 1938 it was invented after steam pumpers were no longer
>>> in
>>> use.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>
>> We had one that we used for an old Sunbeam coal furnace in our house
>> in the 60's to early 70's. I wonder if it is still in my moms
>> basement? I'll have to take a look when I get a chance.
>
> Are coal ashes powdery like wood ashes? Did you use the special shovel to
> remove ashes as well as fetch coal?
"Rob H." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Need some help with the unusual shovel this week:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
>
>
> Rob
1903 Angle brace for drilling holes in awkward places.
1904 A gas burner.
1907 corn cribs.
Steve R.
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> Rob
1903 Window awning tool
1904 Gas stove burner
1905 Tie hanger
1906 Looks like a pooper scooper
1907 Chicken houses
1908 Looks like some kind of message holder
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On 2010-04-15, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/
Posting from Rec.crafts.metalworking as always.
1903) I believe that I've seen something like this used to crank
awnings out and in at stores. Built around an old brace for a
"brace and bit" style drill set. I don't think that the gearbox
as shown is large enough to handle the torque needed to drive
the usual drill bit which would be used.
I would be interested in seeing more detail for the "chuck" end,
which I suspect slides onto and off of the awning crank fitting.
1904) This is a burner for a gas stove. Made of cast iron, and the
flames float just far enough above so the paint is not scorched
off.
1905) Hmm ... if stainless steel, it could be for hanging beef jerkey
to dry/cure.
If not stainless steel, then it could be for stretching fabric
as it dries.
1906) My guess here is that it is for either shoveling coal into
a running fire (perhaps for a locomotive steam engine), or for
shoveling out hot embers and ash for shutting down such a fire.
1907) For smoke curing meat?
1908) Looks like a one-way clutch for some kind of flat belt.
The belt pulled in the direction of the handle will move fairly
freely, but pulled in the opposite direction, it will grip. Not
very strongly, based on the size of the spring, but it will grip
at least.
Of course, if that is not a spring, perhaps it depends on hand
power to clamp -- perhaps by bending it into the sharp step on
the opposite end from the handle and taper.
Now to see what others have suggested.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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On 2010-04-16, Rob H. <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Perhaps 1906 is a coal shovel used on a steam locomotive?
>> phil
>
>
> One thing that I forgot to mention about the shovel, there is a metal sleeve
> on the handle that supposedly makes it easier to rotate and release the
> coal.
>
> Only the last one was unsolved this week, the answers for this set can be
> seen here:
>
> http://55tools.blogspot.com/2010/04/set-332.html#answers
O.K. The view of the chuck in item (1903) confirms that it is a
specialized drill brace, not the awning tool which I thought -- mostly
because the chuck end did not look much like the standard chucks on the
braces of the period. I guess that this one was smaller in diameter to
make it easier to cut in corners or close to walls.
As for (1908) -- could it not have also been used for shoveling
coal in a steam engine (locomotive)? Pretty much the same constraints
there as for a furnace.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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