zR

20/09/2003 4:02 PM

Garage ceiling ideas? (drywall, plywood, etc?)

I recently had a new 24x34 garage built. I will use it as a shop and
for parking two cars in the winter. I'd like to have some kind of
ceiling in it, to reflect light down, and to keep heat in during the
winter.

Finished, painted drywall would look the best, but be difficult to put
up. I'd have to rent a jack, and I constantly be worried about the
jack damaging my newly painted floor. But I'm not worried about it
getting dented (as I've read here before) because my ceilings are
about 10.5 feet high.

But what are the other alternatives? Plywood? (OSB more likely). I
will be putting insulation in the 'attic', too. Not sure if it will
be bats or blown-in yet.

Also am thinking about what I should put on the walls... that will
probably be drywall, I think.

Thanks for any suggestions.

-Ryan


This topic has 39 replies

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

27/09/2003 3:10 AM

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
says...
>
> "Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > >>
> > Does your ceiling show any sagging at all? Does the vinyl give it any
> > more strength? If not, and your 1/4 stuff works ok, I might just get
> > the regular 1/4 hardboard, paint it and put it up.
> >
> > -Ryan\
>
> It WILL sag!
> Greg
>
>
>


If you are talking about the 1/4 hardboard, I'm not sure how, being
fastened down on 24" centers, there is going to be much sag possible
unless it ever gets wet. There is moderate bowing that may occur, but
this is pretty minimal as well.

EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

02/01/2017 4:54 PM

On 1/2/2017 3:45 PM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Put OSB on all my walls. Used joint compound and a 12" blade to prepare the OSB for paint. (After installation). Goes very fast. About 1-2 minutes per sheet. Save a lot of money on paint.
> Can drive nails, screws anywhere to hang tools, conduit etc.
>

Drywall = fire resistant. I have that on walls too for that reason

JW

Jeff Wisnia

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

21/09/2003 2:19 AM

The last time I sheetrocked a ceiling I just whacked together two T shaped
"crutches" out of a couple of pieces of strapping and let my helpers
(SWMBO and our 15 year old son) use them to push up on the sheetrock in
the right places while I stood on a ladder and spun in the screws. Piece
of cake for a DIY one off job, but I wouldn't suggest using that system to
make a living with.

You might want to consider "painting" the finished job with "textured
ceiling finish" which you can apply with a paint roller. It covers taping
sins beautifully. The stuff I used was a dry powder, to be mixed with
water. You can slap it on with a stiff paintbrush in places you can't get
to with a roller.

Jeff

Jeff Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"If you can smile when things are going wrong, you've thought of someone
to blame it on."


Ryan wrote:

> I recently had a new 24x34 garage built. I will use it as a shop and
> for parking two cars in the winter. I'd like to have some kind of
> ceiling in it, to reflect light down, and to keep heat in during the
> winter.
>
> Finished, painted drywall would look the best, but be difficult to put
> up. I'd have to rent a jack, and I constantly be worried about the
> jack damaging my newly painted floor. But I'm not worried about it
> getting dented (as I've read here before) because my ceilings are
> about 10.5 feet high.
>
> But what are the other alternatives? Plywood? (OSB more likely). I
> will be putting insulation in the 'attic', too. Not sure if it will
> be bats or blown-in yet.
>
> Also am thinking about what I should put on the walls... that will
> probably be drywall, I think.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> -Ryan

-

dd

darrell darcy

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

21/09/2003 7:03 AM

A friend of mine strapped the ceiling,painted it white then put 2x8
sheets of 1 inch white styrofoam.Looks great and light as a feather

Guglielmo Portas wrote:

> Sounds like you could go with just about anything. How about a nice
> affordable whitewashed beadboard look panel? Pretty cheap at a
> megastore.

gG

[email protected] (Guglielmo Portas)

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

20/09/2003 7:34 PM

Sounds like you could go with just about anything. How about a nice
affordable whitewashed beadboard look panel? Pretty cheap at a
megastore.

sW

[email protected] (WoodChuck34)

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

22/09/2003 8:30 AM

The fact the Drywall isn't flammable has to be a concern.

I finished my basement myself and used drywall on the ceiling. All I
used were 8 Eye Bolts and 2 pieces of 2 x 4.

Cut 2 lenghts of 2 x 4's just longer the 4' so you can screw an eye
bolt in either and fit the drywall in between, like so:

0 0
| |
---------------------------
---------------------------


Screw the other 4 eye bolts into the rafters where you want to place
the drywall. I then used 4 nylon strap (the kind with the rachet
tightener) to hoist the drywall into place. Use another 2 x 4 to
press it hard against the ceiling.

When I say I did the ceiling myself, I mean I didn't have anyone else
in the room.

Chuck

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

21/09/2003 4:19 AM

> "Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I recently had a new 24x34 garage built. I will use it as a shop and
> > for parking two cars in the winter. I'd like to have some kind of
> > ceiling in it, to reflect light down, and to keep heat in during the
> > winter.
> >
> > Finished, painted drywall would look the best, but be difficult to put
> > up. I'd have to rent a jack, and I constantly be worried about the
> > jack damaging my newly painted floor. But I'm not worried about it
> > getting dented (as I've read here before) because my ceilings are
> > about 10.5 feet high.
> >
> > But what are the other alternatives? Plywood? (OSB more likely). I
> > will be putting insulation in the 'attic', too. Not sure if it will
> > be bats or blown-in yet.
> >
> > Also am thinking about what I should put on the walls... that will
> > probably be drywall, I think.
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> > -Ryan
>


I did something a little different in my shop. I got the 1/4" vinyl-
coated hardboard and used it as both wall covering and ceiling covering.
My primary motivation for going this route vs. drywall is the fact that
removal is easy if one ever wishes to access behind any wall, any time.
I went with the white vinyl vs. OSB for several reasons: 1. OSB out-
gasses horribly for a long time after insulation. 2. OSB sucks up primer
and paint by the bucket, 3. The white vinyl is already white, so,
although it does cost more (mine cost $14 per sheet), I did not have to
either prime or paint it, so in addition to saving on paint, I saved
tons of time.

I just finished installing all of the walls and 2/3 of the ceiling, so
I don't have a long history with the stuff to state how it will hold up,
but this is a shop, I see no significant downsides to this choice, and
the white walls made a bazillion percent difference in the looks and
lighting level. Now comes the rest of the reconfiguration project, got
the wood rack re-installed yesterday and the large dimension lumber
replaced in the rack. I am going to build compartmented storage on the
top shelf for scrap wood storage and also for some other storage (such
as extra flourescent lightbulbs).

bc

betterthanbob

in reply to Mark & Juanita on 21/09/2003 4:19 AM

01/04/2016 6:44 PM

replying to Mark & Juanita, betterthanbob wrote:
Hi. were your trusses 16" or 24"? Is it sagging at all?

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Don Clark

in reply to Mark & Juanita on 21/09/2003 4:19 AM

05/04/2018 2:44 AM

replying to Mark & Juanita, Don Clark wrote:
How has the vinyl bead board ceiling hold up I’m about to do the same thing

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WC

Wylie Coyote

in reply to Mark & Juanita on 21/09/2003 4:19 AM

02/01/2017 3:44 PM

replying to Mark & Juanita, Wylie Coyote wrote:
so, 13 yrs later, how has the ceiling held up? Did you nail it or use
adhesive?

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Ward

in reply to Mark & Juanita on 21/09/2003 4:19 AM

03/08/2018 4:44 AM

replying to Mark & Juanita, Ward wrote:
Did you also insulate your attic?

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LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

24/09/2003 5:48 PM

May be late but what about the Glass-X panels they put on the
walls/ceilings of car washes and restrooms and kitchens? It can be
washed, wiped off and is generally regarded as fire proof
(resistant).It also ha s a pebble finish, is very bright so will help
light up garage, etc.. Good stuff.





On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 17:24:33 -0500, "Greg O"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> >>
>> Does your ceiling show any sagging at all? Does the vinyl give it any
>> more strength? If not, and your 1/4 stuff works ok, I might just get
>> the regular 1/4 hardboard, paint it and put it up.
>>
>> -Ryan\
>
>It WILL sag!
>Greg
>

IV

Ivan Vegvary

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

02/01/2017 12:45 PM

Put OSB on all my walls. Used joint compound and a 12" blade to prepare the OSB for paint. (After installation). Goes very fast. About 1-2 minutes per sheet. Save a lot of money on paint.
Can drive nails, screws anywhere to hang tools, conduit etc.

JW

John W. Wells

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

22/09/2003 10:38 AM

On 22 Sep 2003 06:15:53 -0700, [email protected] (Ryan) wrote:

>Thanks for the replies. I will probably just go with drywall. I have
>24" centers, so I would need to use 5/8" drywall to prevent sag?

Perhaps not. When I had my drywall hung earlier this year, due to my
own ignorance, I had set all my ceiling electrical boxes at 1/2 inch.
The contractor said, OK, he'd just use 1/2 inch "ceiling-type"
drywall.

The material he installed IS marked "Ceiling"--must be somewhat
stiffer. No sag yet, but time will tell.

Like you, my ceiling trusses are on 24" centers (upstairs, but 16"
joists downstairs--this is a detached workshop))

>What do you think of priming and painting the drywall before I put it
>up? I'd have to go over it again and paint the seams, and over the
>screw holes, but I think it would be a lot easier than trying to prime
>and paint 816 sq feet of ceiling that's 10.5 feet above my head.

Yikes! I'm currently taping and finishing the drywall myself--a first
time experience for me, so my mudding is kinda messy. No way would I
have painted beforehand!

I'll just unscrew the mesh sander from its telescoping handle and
screw on the paint roller. Rolling paint overhead has GOT to be
easier than sanding overhead!

Oops--just looked back and noticed you said 10.5' above your HEAD.
Guess that's pretty high up.

>I don't suppose paneling will work? That thin stuff that finds itself
>on a lot of basement walls. It would probably sag?

I would think it would.

--John W. Wells

MD

"Michael Daly"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

22/09/2003 5:55 AM

On 21-Sep-2003, "Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote:

> gives some small amout of insulation .

Speaking of insulation - I wonder why no one has suggested sound insulating
ceiling covering. I'd have thought that, given the noise that can be generated
in a shop, having something absorbe the noise would be useful.

'Course the dust would collect in most sound tile I've seen...

Mike

MS

"Mike S."

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

21/09/2003 1:33 AM

I'd use OSB, prime and paint it with a high gloss paint. A pretty cheap
option and it will reflect a lot of light.

--
Mike S.
[email protected]
"Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently had a new 24x34 garage built. I will use it as a shop and
> for parking two cars in the winter. I'd like to have some kind of
> ceiling in it, to reflect light down, and to keep heat in during the
> winter.
>
> Finished, painted drywall would look the best, but be difficult to put
> up. I'd have to rent a jack, and I constantly be worried about the
> jack damaging my newly painted floor. But I'm not worried about it
> getting dented (as I've read here before) because my ceilings are
> about 10.5 feet high.
>
> But what are the other alternatives? Plywood? (OSB more likely). I
> will be putting insulation in the 'attic', too. Not sure if it will
> be bats or blown-in yet.
>
> Also am thinking about what I should put on the walls... that will
> probably be drywall, I think.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> -Ryan

CG

C G <"piper_chuck"@nospam,yahoo.com>

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

22/09/2003 10:54 PM

Ryan wrote:
>
> If I did go with plywood on the ceiling, how thin could it be without
> sagging? How about OSB?
>
> I'm leaning more away from drywall, untaped/mudded it would look very
> ugly, I think?... but mudding/taping/sanding then painting that much
> area sounds like more work than I want to do. I would like to get
> cheap, thin plywood, paint it, then put it up with white screws. I
> could live with the seams.
>
> I will also look at other wall materials, I saw some mentioned in this
> thread but I have no idea what those things are. The only building
> store here is a Menards, and they don't have a lot of selection. The
> new Lowes is supposed to open in November.
>
> Someone mentioned that they just but up foam insulation board. Will
> consider that too...
>
> Thanks for all the responses.
>
> -Ryan

Something to think about is that sheets of drywall are cheap. Plywood
is not usually so inexensive. Perhaps you should contact a drywall crew
and compare their per foot price to that of installing plywood yourself.

Mm

"Myxylplyk"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

21/09/2003 12:03 PM

If you plan on spending any time or storing any of the usual finishing fluids in your
shop, you should use 5/8 or 3/4 drywall.
5/8 is usual code for a fire barrier between garage and house. It may help contain any
fires until help got there.
The other materials recommended are all fairly flamable.

just my $.02,
Myx

"Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently had a new 24x34 garage built. I will use it as a shop and
> for parking two cars in the winter. I'd like to have some kind of
> ceiling in it, to reflect light down, and to keep heat in during the
> winter.
>
> Finished, painted drywall would look the best, but be difficult to put
> up. I'd have to rent a jack, and I constantly be worried about the
> jack damaging my newly painted floor. But I'm not worried about it
> getting dented (as I've read here before) because my ceilings are
> about 10.5 feet high.
>
> But what are the other alternatives? Plywood? (OSB more likely). I
> will be putting insulation in the 'attic', too. Not sure if it will
> be bats or blown-in yet.
>
> Also am thinking about what I should put on the walls... that will
> probably be drywall, I think.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> -Ryan

bW

in reply to "Myxylplyk" on 21/09/2003 12:03 PM

25/09/2003 5:57 AM

Hi Ryan,
Is this shop attached to your house ? you said you have cars in it ,
Lawnmowers , other flammables?
Think about it . You have a lot of money invested ,why skimp ?
Safety IS a big factor, ALL the other alternatives to a sheetrock
ceiling are very dangerous ,the smoke ,and hazardous fumes from
them will kill you.

This is the BEST advice that was given to you about the project :
If you plan on spending any time or storing any of the usual finishing
fluids in your shop, you should use 5/8 or 3/4 drywall.
5/8 is usual code for a fire barrier between garage and house. It may
help contain any fires until help got there.
The other materials recommended are all fairly flammable.
just my $.02,
Myx

"Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I recently had a new 24x34 garage built. I will use it as a shop and for
parking two cars in the winter. I'd like to have some kind of ceiling in
it, to reflect light down, and to keep heat in during the winter.
Finished, painted drywall would look the best, but be difficult to put
up. I'd have to rent a jack, and I constantly be worried about the jack
damaging my newly painted floor. But I'm not worried about it getting
dented (as I've read here before) because my ceilings are about 10.5
feet high.
But what are the other alternatives? Plywood? (OSB more likely). I will
be putting insulation in the 'attic', too. Not sure if it will be bats
or blown-in yet.
Also am thinking about what I should put on the walls... that will
probably be drywall, I think.
Thanks for any suggestions.
-Ryan

TH

"Thomas Halay"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

23/09/2003 12:22 AM

I did my garage ceiling using tongue in groove porch flooring. I then
stained it. It looks absolutely fantastic.


Tom
"Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> why not avoid all the hassles and do it with foam board ...mjh
>
> --
> mike hide
>
>
>
> "C G" <"piper_chuck"@nospam,yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Ryan wrote:
> > >
> > > If I did go with plywood on the ceiling, how thin could it be without
> > > sagging? How about OSB?
> > >
> > > I'm leaning more away from drywall, untaped/mudded it would look very
> > > ugly, I think?... but mudding/taping/sanding then painting that much
> > > area sounds like more work than I want to do. I would like to get
> > > cheap, thin plywood, paint it, then put it up with white screws. I
> > > could live with the seams.
> > >
> > > I will also look at other wall materials, I saw some mentioned in this
> > > thread but I have no idea what those things are. The only building
> > > store here is a Menards, and they don't have a lot of selection. The
> > > new Lowes is supposed to open in November.
> > >
> > > Someone mentioned that they just but up foam insulation board. Will
> > > consider that too...
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the responses.
> > >
> > > -Ryan
> >
> > Something to think about is that sheets of drywall are cheap. Plywood
> > is not usually so inexensive. Perhaps you should contact a drywall crew
> > and compare their per foot price to that of installing plywood yourself.
>

Mm

"Myxylplyk"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

22/09/2003 2:05 PM

You could install strapping to help ease the sagging...

If you plan on using kraft backed fiberglass batts, you should consider installing the
insulation *before* you hang the drywall.
As for painting first, it's probably not a good idea. You'll need a good bond for the mud
and you will not know how far you'll need to feather the joints until it's installed.
Also, the paint will probably get marred during install but the lift or some other thing.

Good luck,
Myx

"Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the replies. I will probably just go with drywall. I have
> 24" centers, so I would need to use 5/8" drywall to prevent sag?
>
> What do you think of priming and painting the drywall before I put it
> up? I'd have to go over it again and paint the seams, and over the
> screw holes, but I think it would be a lot easier than trying to prime
> and paint 816 sq feet of ceiling that's 10.5 feet above my head.
>
> I don't suppose paneling will work? That thin stuff that finds itself
> on a lot of basement walls. It would probably sag?
>
> Thanks,
> -Ryan

MH

"Mike Hide"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

21/09/2003 9:13 PM

I used foam board with the silvery reflective surface , 4 by 8 sheets
available at HD or Lowes light as a feather and gives some small amout of
insulation . Cover the seams with duct tape . can easily be handled by one
person.....mjh

--
mike hide



"

tT

[email protected] (ToolMiser)

in reply to "Mike Hide" on 21/09/2003 9:13 PM

22/09/2003 1:44 AM

Isn't foam considered a fire hazzard? I think most places require it to be
cover with a non combustable material. Maybe this would pass for an out
building?

Just my usual 2 cents.

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

27/09/2003 3:06 AM

In article <[email protected]>, zirconx9
@yahoo.com says...
> > I did something a little different in my shop. I got the 1/4" vinyl-
> > coated hardboard and used it as both wall covering and ceiling covering.
... snip
> >
> > I just finished installing all of the walls and 2/3 of the ceiling, so
> > I don't have a long history with the stuff to state how it will hold up,
> > but this is a shop, I see no significant downsides to this choice, and
> > the white walls made a bazillion percent difference in the looks and
... snip
>
> I did not see any vinyl coated hardboard at Menards. All they had was
> regular hardboard. The 1/4 stuff was around $5 per 4x8 sheet.
>

Initially got mine from Home Depot, but got the majority of it from
McEwan Lumber in Tucson. I think Lowes also has this.

> Does your ceiling show any sagging at all? Does the vinyl give it any
> more strength? If not, and your 1/4 stuff works ok, I might just get
> the regular 1/4 hardboard, paint it and put it up.
>

My ceiling is a trussed ceiling and did not show any signs of sagging
either before or after installation. I'm not sure how old the shop
building is, I'm guessing at better than 10 years old (it was here when
I moved in 4 years ago).


> -Ryan
>

An

"A.I."

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

20/09/2003 7:46 PM

I drywalled my ceiling using a drywall lift that I rented from the BORG.
Piece of cake, the lift makes it very easy to put overhead sheets up, and
does not damage the floor. Painted white, works very well.

hda
"Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently had a new 24x34 garage built. I will use it as a shop and
> for parking two cars in the winter. I'd like to have some kind of
> ceiling in it, to reflect light down, and to keep heat in during the
> winter.
>
> Finished, painted drywall would look the best, but be difficult to put
> up. I'd have to rent a jack, and I constantly be worried about the
> jack damaging my newly painted floor. But I'm not worried about it
> getting dented (as I've read here before) because my ceilings are
> about 10.5 feet high.
>
> But what are the other alternatives? Plywood? (OSB more likely). I
> will be putting insulation in the 'attic', too. Not sure if it will
> be bats or blown-in yet.
>
> Also am thinking about what I should put on the walls... that will
> probably be drywall, I think.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> -Ryan

zR

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

22/09/2003 6:15 AM

Thanks for the replies. I will probably just go with drywall. I have
24" centers, so I would need to use 5/8" drywall to prevent sag?

What do you think of priming and painting the drywall before I put it
up? I'd have to go over it again and paint the seams, and over the
screw holes, but I think it would be a lot easier than trying to prime
and paint 816 sq feet of ceiling that's 10.5 feet above my head.

I don't suppose paneling will work? That thin stuff that finds itself
on a lot of basement walls. It would probably sag?

Thanks,
-Ryan

zR

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

22/09/2003 3:43 PM

If I did go with plywood on the ceiling, how thin could it be without
sagging? How about OSB?

I'm leaning more away from drywall, untaped/mudded it would look very
ugly, I think?... but mudding/taping/sanding then painting that much
area sounds like more work than I want to do. I would like to get
cheap, thin plywood, paint it, then put it up with white screws. I
could live with the seams.

I will also look at other wall materials, I saw some mentioned in this
thread but I have no idea what those things are. The only building
store here is a Menards, and they don't have a lot of selection. The
new Lowes is supposed to open in November.

Someone mentioned that they just but up foam insulation board. Will
consider that too...

Thanks for all the responses.

-Ryan

zR

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

24/09/2003 6:21 AM

How about 1/4 inch hardboard? Cheap stuff, and feels pretty sturdy.

-Ryan

zR

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

24/09/2003 6:24 AM

> I did something a little different in my shop. I got the 1/4" vinyl-
> coated hardboard and used it as both wall covering and ceiling covering.
> My primary motivation for going this route vs. drywall is the fact that
> removal is easy if one ever wishes to access behind any wall, any time.
> I went with the white vinyl vs. OSB for several reasons: 1. OSB out-
> gasses horribly for a long time after insulation. 2. OSB sucks up primer
> and paint by the bucket, 3. The white vinyl is already white, so,
> although it does cost more (mine cost $14 per sheet), I did not have to
> either prime or paint it, so in addition to saving on paint, I saved
> tons of time.
>
> I just finished installing all of the walls and 2/3 of the ceiling, so
> I don't have a long history with the stuff to state how it will hold up,
> but this is a shop, I see no significant downsides to this choice, and
> the white walls made a bazillion percent difference in the looks and
> lighting level. Now comes the rest of the reconfiguration project, got
> the wood rack re-installed yesterday and the large dimension lumber
> replaced in the rack. I am going to build compartmented storage on the
> top shelf for scrap wood storage and also for some other storage (such
> as extra flourescent lightbulbs).

I did not see any vinyl coated hardboard at Menards. All they had was
regular hardboard. The 1/4 stuff was around $5 per 4x8 sheet.

Does your ceiling show any sagging at all? Does the vinyl give it any
more strength? If not, and your 1/4 stuff works ok, I might just get
the regular 1/4 hardboard, paint it and put it up.

-Ryan

Ss

"Specter"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

25/09/2003 2:02 AM

I know the product, but where do you look for it, and what should you expect
to pay?

Rob

----------------------------

"Lawrence A. Ramsey" wrote ...
> May be late but what about the Glass-X panels they put on the
> walls/ceilings of car washes and restrooms and kitchens? It can be
> washed, wiped off and is generally regarded as fire proof
> (resistant).It also ha s a pebble finish, is very bright so will help
> light up garage, etc.. Good stuff.

LA

Lawrence A. Ramsey

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

25/09/2003 3:57 AM

Go to your hardware/buiding supply store. They can order it. An
interior decorator might also be another source.It is very reasonable
sine you don't have to mud it, sand and prime and paint. Also good for
water that gets splashed up on it.Since it is fiberglass, be SURE to
wear a respirator and eye protection.


On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 02:02:53 GMT, "Specter" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I know the product, but where do you look for it, and what should you expect
>to pay?
>
>Rob
>
>----------------------------
>
>"Lawrence A. Ramsey" wrote ...
>> May be late but what about the Glass-X panels they put on the
>> walls/ceilings of car washes and restrooms and kitchens? It can be
>> washed, wiped off and is generally regarded as fire proof
>> (resistant).It also ha s a pebble finish, is very bright so will help
>> light up garage, etc.. Good stuff.
>

MH

"Mike Hide"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

22/09/2003 11:50 PM

why not avoid all the hassles and do it with foam board ...mjh

--
mike hide



"C G" <"piper_chuck"@nospam,yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Ryan wrote:
> >
> > If I did go with plywood on the ceiling, how thin could it be without
> > sagging? How about OSB?
> >
> > I'm leaning more away from drywall, untaped/mudded it would look very
> > ugly, I think?... but mudding/taping/sanding then painting that much
> > area sounds like more work than I want to do. I would like to get
> > cheap, thin plywood, paint it, then put it up with white screws. I
> > could live with the seams.
> >
> > I will also look at other wall materials, I saw some mentioned in this
> > thread but I have no idea what those things are. The only building
> > store here is a Menards, and they don't have a lot of selection. The
> > new Lowes is supposed to open in November.
> >
> > Someone mentioned that they just but up foam insulation board. Will
> > consider that too...
> >
> > Thanks for all the responses.
> >
> > -Ryan
>
> Something to think about is that sheets of drywall are cheap. Plywood
> is not usually so inexensive. Perhaps you should contact a drywall crew
> and compare their per foot price to that of installing plywood yourself.

FM

Fred McClellan

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

21/09/2003 12:25 AM

On 20 Sep 2003 16:02:36 -0700, [email protected] (Ryan) wrote:

>I recently had a new 24x34 garage built. I will use it as a shop and
>for parking two cars in the winter. I'd like to have some kind of
>ceiling in it, to reflect light down, and to keep heat in during the
>winter.
>
>Finished, painted drywall would look the best, but be difficult to put
>up. I'd have to rent a jack, and I constantly be worried about the
>jack damaging my newly painted floor. But I'm not worried about it
>getting dented (as I've read here before) because my ceilings are
>about 10.5 feet high.
>
<SNIP>

Dunno what it's called, but we just sheeted the ceiling in the garage
using a quickie-built platform-thing.

A 4'x4' plywood scrap, a length of PVC tube, a length of closet rod,
and some scrap borgstuff.

Drilled a socket in a lump of borgstuff with a Forstner, to fit the
PVC. Screwed the borgstuff to the center of the scrap ply so it
formed a stringer down the middle of the ply.

Slid the closet rod into the PVC and cut it the same length.

Held the platform up against the rafters and let the rod drop to the
floor, then cross-drilled a small hole for a pin (ok, an old cylinder
head bolt), and a couple of more holes an inch farther down the rod
'just in case'.

Not too much of a fuss to use, and once loaded and lifted, it allowed
one of us to 'steer' the sheet goods and the other one to run the
nailer.

Did the whole ceiling in a day, including all the dodge-work around
stuff like the garage door opener supports, main I-beam, etc.

Cost was zilch 'cuz the scrap stuff was going out the door anyway.
Cheers,
Fred McClellan
the dash plumber at mindspring dot com

MB

Michael Baglio

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

23/09/2003 12:16 AM

On 22 Sep 2003 15:43:49 -0700, [email protected] (Ryan) wrote:
agging? How about OSB?
>
>I'm leaning more away from drywall, untaped/mudded it would look very
>ugly, I think?... but mudding/taping/sanding then painting that much
>area sounds like more work than I want to do.

I'm all for having a job look good but if this was _my_ workshop, I'd
remind myself that it is my _workshop._ The point of the drywall is
light reflection, sound dampening and a cheap means to hold up
insulation. I'd prepaint the drywall a nice bright white, insulate
between the rafters and screw the drywall up to the ceiling. Done.
No tape, no mud, no sanding. Time to work wood.

By the time you're done hanging lights, jigs, bar clamps, and that
gloat cache of unobtainium wood you were lucky enough to find and need
to dry, you'll never see the seems anyway. ;>

My 2 cents, and worth every penny,
Michael Baglio

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

20/09/2003 6:13 PM


"Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I recently had a new 24x34 garage built. I will use it as a shop and
> for parking two cars in the winter. I'd like to have some kind of
> ceiling in it, to reflect light down, and to keep heat in during the
> winter.
>
> Finished, painted drywall would look the best, but be difficult to put
> up. I'd have to rent a jack, and I constantly be worried about the
> jack damaging my newly painted floor. But I'm not worried about it
> getting dented (as I've read here before) because my ceilings are
> about 10.5 feet high.
>
> But what are the other alternatives? Plywood? (OSB more likely). I
> will be putting insulation in the 'attic', too. Not sure if it will
> be bats or blown-in yet.
>
> Also am thinking about what I should put on the walls... that will
> probably be drywall, I think.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> -Ryan

I don't think anything else will be much easier than sheetrock. Sure OSB or
plywood my be lighter, but not enough to make a difference. Plus sheetrock
is 1/2 the price and takes paint better than anything else.
Sheet rock the ceiling then walls. Put up a vapor barrier first.
Greg

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"Greg O"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

20/09/2003 8:50 PM


"Mike S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'd use OSB, prime and paint it with a high gloss paint. A pretty cheap
> option and it will reflect a lot of light.
>
> --


Cheap?? OSB is 2-3 times the price of sheet rock!
Greg

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"Greg O"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

22/09/2003 6:09 PM


"Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks for the replies. I will probably just go with drywall. I have
> 24" centers, so I would need to use 5/8" drywall to prevent sag?
>
> What do you think of priming and painting the drywall before I put it
> up? I'd have to go over it again and paint the seams, and over the
> screw holes, but I think it would be a lot easier than trying to prime
> and paint 816 sq feet of ceiling that's 10.5 feet above my head.
>
> I don't suppose paneling will work? That thin stuff that finds itself
> on a lot of basement walls. It would probably sag?
>
> Thanks,
> -Ryan

Paint it afterwards. Get an extended handle for a paint roller, put the
paint tray on the floor and go to it. It is not that bad of a job.
Greg

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"Greg O"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

23/09/2003 5:54 PM


"Mike Hide" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> why not avoid all the hassles and do it with foam board ...mjh
>
> --
>

Because some people want a more finished look.
Greg

GO

"Greg O"

in reply to [email protected] (Ryan) on 20/09/2003 4:02 PM

24/09/2003 5:24 PM


"Ryan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >>
> Does your ceiling show any sagging at all? Does the vinyl give it any
> more strength? If not, and your 1/4 stuff works ok, I might just get
> the regular 1/4 hardboard, paint it and put it up.
>
> -Ryan\

It WILL sag!
Greg


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