I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
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> I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
> Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
You got the contract before they knew the price?
How American-DoD-esque! :)
I could be wrong, but what you are referring to is called a "Pace Stick" if
I am correct. They go for over $200.00 i'm pretty sure.
"ng" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
> Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
> providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
> I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
> wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
> Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
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There ya go.
John
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>>>I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
>>>Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
>>>providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
>>>I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
>>>wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
>>>Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
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>>If you are happy with $20/hr, go for it. Is there any way to streamline the
>>process since you will be building a lot of them? I find that setup time is
>>a major portion of the time spent on projects. If so, you may find the
>>build time per unit can drop significantly when you build a lot at once.
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>>Frank
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>Try the RCR home page. I think they sell them there and may give u an
>idea how much. Sorry don't kinow URL.
>Ken in NS
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<pre wrap="">I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
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process since you will be building a lot of them? I find that setup time is
a major portion of the time spent on projects. If so, you may find the
build time per unit can drop significantly when you build a lot at once.
Frank
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Drill Cane - Cadet, w/Black Leather 94.40
Drill Cane - Cadet, Wood 79.20
[email protected] wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:36:21 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
><[email protected]> wrote:
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>>"ng" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
>>>Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
>>>providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
>>>I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
>>>wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
>>>Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
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>>If you are happy with $20/hr, go for it. Is there any way to streamline the
>>process since you will be building a lot of them? I find that setup time is
>>a major portion of the time spent on projects. If so, you may find the
>>build time per unit can drop significantly when you build a lot at once.
>>
>>Frank
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>Try the RCR home page. I think they sell them there and may give u an
>idea how much. Sorry don't kinow URL.
>Ken in NS
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<pre wrap="">I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
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<pre wrap="">If you are happy with $20/hr, go for it. Is there any way to streamline the
process since you will be building a lot of them? I find that setup time is
a major portion of the time spent on projects. If so, you may find the
build time per unit can drop significantly when you build a lot at once.
Frank
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> Drill Cane - Cadet, w/Black Leather 94.40
>Drill Cane - Cadet, Wood 79.20
90 bucks sounds a little more reasonable, getting his gross per up to 30 bucks
an hour...which he should be able to cut as he gets more efficient (cut the
hours, not the gross).
Sounds like USMC swagger sticks, which, I think, were outlawed not too long
after I got out. Too easy to do major damage to a boot when you're pissed, I
think.
Charlie Self
"Man is a reasoning rather than a reasonable animal."
Alexander Hamilton
http://hometown.aol.com/charliediy/myhomepage/business.html
Those are 2002 prices. And Canadian dollars, from RCR.
I quoted those because in the 2003 list I couldn't fine the "non
leather" one listed. Just the one with leather, but at the same price.
I wonder if there is something to this and a demand is not being met?????
Anyway, don't be so cheap as to put yourself out of business. And if
your product is nicer, charge what it is worth. And tell your customers
why it is worth more, if it is. Sell the sizzle! People always try to be
the cheapest. Even with a superior product.
John
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My Nickel's worth, as an old soldier.
The canes you are referring to are to be used by Company Sergeant Majors
(CSM), so they should reflect the fact that he (she ?) is the most senior
non commissionned member of the company, owed respect by all non-coms and
privates and spoken to with deference by all junior officers.
The cane, about 36 inches in length, is the symbol of the Sergeant Major's
appointment. (His rank is usuallu Master Warrant Officer, which he wears on
his sleeve). Tradition has it that they are handed down from CSM to CSM
within a company, unless the regiment chooses to give it to the CSM as a
souvenir of his appointment.
If you are actually making these icons, I do not think you should price them
according to what army cadets pay for theirs. With the quality work you can
probably produce (Hey, the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery asked you),
you should not be shy to ask 200 $ for each.
Pierre Brassard.
"Eddie Munster" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de
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> Those are 2002 prices. And Canadian dollars, from RCR.
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> I quoted those because in the 2003 list I couldn't fine the "non
> leather" one listed. Just the one with leather, but at the same price.
> I wonder if there is something to this and a demand is not being met?????
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> your product is nicer, charge what it is worth. And tell your customers
> why it is worth more, if it is. Sell the sizzle! People always try to be
> the cheapest. Even with a superior product.
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> I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
> Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
> providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
> I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
> wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
> Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
>
If you are happy with $20/hr, go for it. Is there any way to streamline the
process since you will be building a lot of them? I find that setup time is
a major portion of the time spent on projects. If so, you may find the
build time per unit can drop significantly when you build a lot at once.
Frank
No, pace sticks are something else. Nav
js wrote:
> I could be wrong, but what you are referring to is called a "Pace Stick" if
> I am correct. They go for over $200.00 i'm pretty sure.
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> "ng" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
>>Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
>>providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
>>I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
>>wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
>>Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
>>
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:01:13 -0500, ng <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
>Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
>providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
>I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
>wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
>Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
well concidering the US military spends over 200 bucks for a 3.99
hammer those canes should be um in the nieborhood of..... let me
see...... oh... about 6000 dollars each US or roughly 25000 dollars
canadian!!!!!!!!!! :-]
seriously 90 to 100 each is a fair price. they get quality product
and you make a profit. thats what its all about nav. skeez
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:36:21 GMT, "Frank Ketchum"
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>"ng" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
>> Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
>> providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
>> I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
>> wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
>> Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
>>
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>If you are happy with $20/hr, go for it. Is there any way to streamline the
>process since you will be building a lot of them? I find that setup time is
>a major portion of the time spent on projects. If so, you may find the
>build time per unit can drop significantly when you build a lot at once.
>
>Frank
>
Try the RCR home page. I think they sell them there and may give u an
idea how much. Sorry don't kinow URL.
Ken in NS
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:01:13 -0500, ng <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
>Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
>providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
>I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
>wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
why are you not including finishing time? include it then figure out how much
you would make a hour.
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Ah. As I said, I could be wrong. :) .
Hey maybe thats something else you could look at making as well, while we
are on subject. Just a thought.
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if
> > I am correct. They go for over $200.00 i'm pretty sure.
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> >>I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
> >>Regiment, and was wondering what I should charge per cane. They are
> >>providing the wood (cherry) and the bullet casings that top the canes.
> >>I was thinking of $60 (CDN) per cane. It takes about 3 hours from raw
> >>wood to finished product (not including finishing time).
> >>Any suggestions for a price would be appreciated, thanks, Nav
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ng <[email protected]> writes:
> I am to make a number of military drill canes for a Canadian Artillery
What are military drill canes? Are they used to cane the imps^Hcadets
to get the proper drill?
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