Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
the back edge of the blade.
Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
Maybe I should have been using a push stick. I always do if the rip is
2" or less, but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
described above. My new rule will be 3" or less.
What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
holiday season. I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus of
"you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
P.S. I expected the emergency room to be full of swine flu patients, but
nary a one. They told me cases had been dropping off rapidly.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:33:29 +0900, Phil Laird wrote:
> Fortunately in this case my insurance company were actually very good
> and paid up without any problems . .
>
I'm an old fart on Medicare with a private supplemental policy - at the
most I'll pay $50 or $100 (I don't recall which) for the emergency room
visit.
> And even more scary - when finally got to the hospital 100 k away - it
> was full of roughty toughty blokes with mushed up fingers . .. felt
> like a brother.
>
The one here was almost empty - on a Saturday! I did get sympathy from a
ragged biker type who looked worse than I felt :-).
> In about 12 months it should be right - but the left handed nose pick is
> a real bugger.
They told me my thumb should start to scab over in 2 weeks. I reminded
them that I was 72 and they changed that to 3 weeks - it'll probably take
4 :-). But you're probably right about the tenderness lasting a lot
longer - a reminder not to do it again.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
<[email protected]> wrote
>
> I'm now the proud owner of a chain mail glove courtesy of Lee Valley
> Tools. Just have to remember to use it when I'm handling something
> sharp the next time.
>
Reminds me of a little postal box accident. I have a private post office
box. I was there after hours many years ago trying to retrieve a box out of
it. The have a heavy metal lip that extends down in the front to help
prevent theft. I couldn't get the box out. I needed what was in that box.
I reached into my pocket and pulled out my trusty swiss army knife. Now this
is not the monster that has twenty tools on it. It is actually the smallest
one they make. A little, tiny thing. I do keep it sharp for a box or
whatever that needs to be cut now and then. I sliced open the box and began
the slow process of squeezing the box out of too small of an opening.
Several more cuts were required. Then it happened. I sliced ME! A finger got
in the way.
Here I was in a public space, a business, about to bleed all over the place.
That would be hard to explain. I wrapped the bleeding digit in a
hankerchief. I continued wrestle the box out of the too small space.
Eventually, I got it out and got outside without bleeding on the floor. I
was outside bleeding on the sidewalk. I took off my T shirt and wrapped it
around my hand. I got home and walked into the house.
My wife was shocked to see me covered in blood. We cleaned it all up and put
a proper bandage on it. It healed up nicely. When I told the owner of the
store what happened, he said that he appreciated it that I did not bleed all
over the place.
"Larry Blanchard" wrote
>
> What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
> holiday season. I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus of
> "you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
>
Think of it as an opportunity to sell some stuff. Just hold up your mangled
thumb and go, "If I had one of these, I wouldn't have this chewed up thumb."
When life gives you lemons, make lemonade!
Good thing it wasn't too serious. And you will LEARN from it as well.
On Nov 14, 7:06=A0pm, Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. =A0I was ripping a piec=
e
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. =A0I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. =A0I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
>
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. =A0No bone =
or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. =A0Looked like fresh hamburger. =A0
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
>
> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. =A0I always do if the rip is
> 2" or less, =A0but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
> described above. =A0My new rule will be 3" or less.
>
> What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
> holiday season. =A0I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus o=
f
> "you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
>
> P.S. =A0I expected the emergency room to be full of swine flu patients, b=
ut
> nary a one. =A0They told me cases had been dropping off rapidly.
Oooo! that hurts! Sorry Larry. Scary, I usually rip 2-3" pieces
without a dead cat. Hope you heal quickly.
Luigi
Luigi
Larry Blanchard said:
>Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
>of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
>was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
>happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
>the back edge of the blade.
The stock was 2.5" but apparently your thumb was 3" long. ;-)
Sorry to hear it. I've never contacted the blade and am super careful,
but I've had it throw things back and impact my hand. Hurts like hell.
>....
>What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
>holiday season. I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus of
>"you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
Maybe the Feds should.... ;-)
If you are married and are desirous of a new tool, it does look like a
nice piece and should be an easy sell to the wife at this point. When
I was shopping for a saw, I really liked the movable splitter and the
clean design, but the price tag was roughly double of what my Unisaw
cost and it was in public beta at the time. So I don't own one
either...
Glad you survived with all digits intact!
There but for the grace of the wooddorking gods...
Perhaps you can pick up an extra buck or two as a window display
hawking the SS. ;-)
Greg G.
In article <[email protected]>, Larry
Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
You dumb fuck...
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
LUCKY dumb fuck.
Payin' the Stupid Tax. You're certainly not alone... I have my receipts.
Hope you heal up up well, and quick.
In article <[email protected]>, Nonny
<[email protected]> wrote:
> It was still something between spurting blood and just a rivulet
> when my son turned to me and said, "Remember, Dad, pain follows
> stupidity."
ROFL!
I refer to "paying the stupid tax".
In article <[email protected]>, evodawg
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Ever go to your butcher and see the guys cutting meat using those Chain Mail
> gloves. Not sure of the spelling but that could help if your fingers
> weren't forced into the blade. Just wonder if anyone would ever bother to
> put them on.
I'd think they may it more likely your hand was pulled into the
blade... But in any event I suspect they would only offer a false sense
of security.
Nonny said:
>While dredging up the Haircut story, I came across another one I
>called Spot's Tale. Perhaps you'll enjoy it.
>
>Spot's Tale.
<snip of a good story>
>Spot lived another 2-3 years after that adventure, but finally
>succumbed to Leukemia one equally cold afternoon. Even
>now when I look out Spot's window, I sometimes still think
>I see him there, but when I see the stain he left on the floor
>of my shop, I don't miss him quite as much.
My first question is : are you absolutely certain it was the cat that
left that spot on the floor? Or was he just a convenient scapegoat.
You devil...
Greg G.
Well I guess my 2" rule goes to 3" also.
Interesting, I've seen a few injuries off the top of back of the
blade. It is easy to envision pushing into the leading edge but we
don't think to much about it as we pull our hands back after a cut,
especially when repetitive.
Fast healing.
On Nov 14, 7:06=A0pm, Larry Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. =A0I was ripping a piec=
e
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. =A0I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. =A0I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
>
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. =A0No bone =
or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. =A0Looked like fresh hamburger. =A0
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
>
> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. =A0I always do if the rip is
> 2" or less, =A0but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
> described above. =A0My new rule will be 3" or less.
>
> What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
> holiday season. =A0I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus o=
f
> "you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
>
> P.S. =A0I expected the emergency room to be full of swine flu patients, b=
ut
> nary a one. =A0They told me cases had been dropping off rapidly.
>
> --
> Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:30:08 -0500, Greg G. wrote:
>
> If you are married and are desirous of a new tool, it does look like a
> nice piece and should be an easy sell to the wife at this point.
Unfortunately, even if I had the money I don't have the space.
> Perhaps you can pick up an extra buck or two as a window display hawking
> the SS. ;-)
>
I did think of putting a sign around my neck and standing by the SS :-).
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:26:06 -0600, Morris Dovey wrote:
> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a
>> piece of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip
>> fence and was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not
>> sure what happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped
>> and caught the back edge of the blade.
>
>
> Y'know, I'm beginning to like the idea of those Grabber gizmos more and
> more.
Upon reflection, I think what happened was that the wood started to fall
off the back of the table and while pushing down my thumb slipped
sideways. If so, the rollers wouldn't have helped, the wood would have
been past them. But I do use them a lot and like them.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:50:42 -0500, the infamous [email protected]
scrawled the following:
>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:28:36 -0800, "Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>a hotel for a few days. When the relative, caregiver, child,
>>neighbor or whoever discovers the blood and gore, the ensuing
>>ruckus would be entertaining until your resurface.
>
>Joking aside, that would feed the potential horror scene that every
>wheelchair bound person feels at one time or another. I'm talking
>about some 'know it all' person or body sweeping in and taking control
>of your life because they think you're not capable of handling your
>own affairs any more. It's happened several times when I've been out
>in public and I hit some damned pothole the wrong way and get thrown
>out of my chair. Of course, dozen's of people rally around and lift me
>back into my chair. While I appreciate the help, it gives me a moment
>of terror whenever I'm manhandled by two dozen people at the same
>time. :)
>
>I suspect it's much the same feeling that an older person gets when
>everybody wants you to move to a nursing home because you're 'too old'
>to look after yourself any more.
>
>Of course, it will happen to me at some time in the future. But, I
>have a solution. When the time comes and I fall out of my wheelchair
>unable to get myself back in it without help, then I'm going to lay
>there without calling for help. That will show them.
>
>Damn them all.
Hey, just slide yourself thru a bandsaur like this guy did. Piece of
cake. http://fwd4.me/4j4
--
When we are planning for posterity,
we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.
-- Thomas Paine
Several replies with the same description. Most all included, "I don't
remember what happened".
I can only say you cannot be too careful because sometimes what happens is
you find that you are not as careful as you thought you were. When you
consider that a machine that is turning has the potential of doing harm to
you whether you are operating it or not it helps you to realize that all of
what you know about safety is not enough.
It is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when. What are you going to do
to improve your odds.
Pardon me for retelling an old, old tale about a shop incident,
but perhaps it might make all those cuts and scabs feel a tad
better. This true and unexaggerated tale was posted to the wreck
long ago by me:
---------------------------------------
A little over a year ago, I had an serious accident in my shop
involving my 3 hp Jet dust collector. The recent discussion about
dust
collecting has given me the "shove" necessary to write about it
and the
passage of time has dulled the memory to the point where I can now
discuss
it in public.
My wife is a sweetheart of a person, who I met for the first time
while
attending kindergarten in our home town in MO. She beat me up
on that first day of school. We were always friends during our
school years
and continued to be friends right up to the time we were married.
We've
now been married for over 30 years, and she has mellowed to the
point where she
seldom beats me up anymore, since it upsets the dog..
About a year ago, my wife and I decided to "reward" ourselves for
the last
kid going off to college with a trip to Alaska and a leisurely
cruise down
the Inside Passage to Vancouver. It was to be a vacation of a
lifetime
for us. Planning for the trip went smoothly, with the only glitch
being
my good wife forgetting to make an appointment at the beauty
parlor for
the day before we were to leave.
I spent the day before the trip straightening up my shop so that a
burglar wouldn't trip over anything and sue me for his injuries.
My wife
came downstairs in the afternoon to ask me if I would trim her
hair just
a tad so that it would look better for the trip. Having been
virtually bald since my days in college, I have always cut my own
hair with an old pair of Oster clippers that I bought while in
college.
There, I had learned the simple fact that food is more important
than a
professional haircut.
In my shop, I have a 3-hp Jet dust collector that is fed via blast
gates
from both ducts in the floor AND via a 25' 4" flex hose that
connects to the
floor sweep/planer/jointer or other movable tools. Since my
wife's hair
is about 3" long, I thought that it'd be nice to hold the clippers
inside
the 4" flex pipe so that her hair would stand straight out from
her
head. I felt this would make it easier to get a smooth cut.
**********************************************************************
note: FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT BE SENSITIVE, quit reading right
here
**********************************************************************
For those of you continuing to read this tale of woe, here's what
happened. This is absolutely true and unadulterated or
exaggerated.
My dear wife of 30+ years, and the mother of my children, placed
her rump
on a stool I keep in the shop and proceeded to tell me exactly how
much
hair she wanted removed from the top, sides and bangs. I walked
over to
the DC, fired it up and closed off all but the blast gate leading
to the
4" flex hose. With the old Oster clippers up inside the hose and
me
grasping the cutter end of them between my thumb and forefinger, I
could
hold the 4" flex hose with the other hand and maneuver both things
easily.
I leaned over my wife's pretty face and made the first cut- doing
her
bangs.
The hair stood out perfectly from her forehead and the results of
that
first swipe was terrific. I figured that I would probably get
some reward
from a beauty college for my wonderful invention. The second
swipe was
from side-to-side just above and behind the bangs. It went
equally well.
Then all hell broke loose.
I claim that my wife moved, but she claims that claim is merely
caused by
the random firing of obviously defective neurons in my addled
brain.
For the third swipe, I had walked around to the rear of my wife's
head and
was beginning to make the cut across the top of her head.
Regardless of
the cause (I still say it had to be her fault), the damn 4" flex
hose
somehow sucked down onto the top of her dear, sweet little head.
The clippers
were running full bore up inside the pipe and doing the job that
Mr. Oster
had designed his clippers to do.
The suction of a DC hose isn't great, but when even the most
modest
suction is spread over the area of a 4" hose (that conforms well
to the
shape of a wife's head), there is a momentary and significant
"grab." It
startled my good wife, who let out with a squall and tried to
stand up/
kick me/ brush the 4" hose off of her head and explain how I was
mentally
defective all at the same time. During all this, I was attempting
to
knock the hose away from her head as well. I succeeded in
dislodging it (actually, it probably fell off on its own), but it
fell to
the OTHER side of her precious little head.
The result was that my wife now had perfectly trimmed bangs,
followed by
a bald stripe that went damn near from ear-to-ear across the top
of her
head. Think of it as an inverted Mowhawk that has been rotated 90
degrees. This was NOT what my dear wife had in mind when she
asked me to
trim a bit off of her hair.
This tale now goes from bad to worse, because I tried to remedy
the
problem by tapering the hair toward the "kerf" and shortening up
the rest.
Saying that my attempts to remedy the situation were unsuccessful
would be
like saying that General Custer was unsuccessful at pacifying the
Indians.
When that poor old woman finally got to the mirror, I knew that a
personal
Hell for me was at hand. It was. Now I stand just over 6', am in
pretty
good shape and tip the scales at almost 280#. My sweet wife and
companion
of all those years couldn't be over 5'-4", weighs a LOT less and
has
Multiple Sclerosis. However, she took one look at her new "do"
and took
off after me like a rabid Doberman. She runs pretty darn well when
she's
mad, I learned something else that afternoon. I also learned
that the sweet
old woman had obviously been kicked out of the Marine Corps
because of her
foul, potty mouth. The things that woman said, and the things
that she
called me, have absolutely prevented her from EVER enjoying the
pleasures
of Heaven, in my humble opinion.
I got little sleep that night, since my good wife felt the need to
wake me
every ten minutes or so to further discuss the consternation and
distress
I'd caused her, and to share her emotions and feelings with me.
Since
Lorena Bobbit had been in the news recently, I had very real
additional
reasons to remain awake and sober. We were leaving that next
morning and
there was no time for her to get a wig. We simply went ahead with
the
trip, with my wife looking (and acting) like a madwoman. Needless
to say,
the subject of her hair came up frequently. Whenever things would
get a
little boring on the cruise, I'd tell her, "Honny, that haircut
looks like
hell," and it would start all over again.
I tried to alleviate the tension by confidentially offering more
rational
explanations to inquiring folks than that she was "having a
bad-hair day."
I explained to our cabin steward that my wife had been in a fight
with a
wildcat while knife-hunting in Colorado. I told our waiter that
she had
she had almost completely overcome a terribly contagious case of
head
lice. A waitress in the lounge was told that medication had almost
completely curbed my wife's terrible impulses with butcher knives.
Generally, I'd just comment to curious folks that, "She's much
calmer now
that the medication is taking effect."
A year later, my good wife STILL winces whenever she hears my dust
collector winding up in the shop. The hair has grown back and is
as pretty
as before my "trim," but the fleeting trust that my wife has for
my ability to cut
hair is certainly diminished.
--
Nonny
What does it mean when drool runs
out of both sides of a drunken
Congressman's mouth?
The floor is level.
"Noons" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Larry Blanchard wrote,on my timestamp of 15/11/2009 2:06 PM:
>
>> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
>> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
>> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
>> the back edge of the blade.
>
> Ouch! Make sure you figure out how, Larry: only way to sensibly avoid it
> in future.
Very good advice but I found that it took almosting repeating the same
mistake to realize what actually happened.
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:20:24 -0600, Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> wrote:
>They told me my thumb should start to scab over in 2 weeks. I reminded
>them that I was 72 and they changed that to 3 weeks - it'll probably take
>4 :-). But you're probably right about the tenderness lasting a lot
>longer - a reminder not to do it again.
Some injury experiences almost have a purpose to them. Recently, while
cutting up boxes, I heard a little "snick" and jerked uncontrollably.
Turned out I'd sliced the tip of my ring finger open laterally.
Most people would go running for a tap or bandage or something to
treat it right? Not me. Since I use a wheelchair, I can't go anywhere,
not without leaving a trail of blood all over the place.
So, there I am, holding the impending geyser of a finger tightly with
a shirtsleeve and wondering what to do. Naturally, I'm all alone, so I
can't call for help. I know my white cat wouldn't appreciate red blood
all over her so she isn't going to be any help. Finally, decided that
there wasn't much else to do, so while leaking blood everywhere, I
make a mad dash for the kitchen sink. Along the way, I take out a
sizeable chunk of drywall surrounding the kitchen door. Adorned the
refrigerator door with a bloody abstract of blood as I grabbed it to
propel myself the last 8 feet and finally reach the sink. Took ten
minutes to wash all the blood off, tightly wrap the finger and bandage
anything that looked like it was bleeding.
Then I look at the carnage of blood and plaster I left in my mad dash
for the kitchen.
Ten minutes to bandage my hand.
Forty minutes to clean up splatters of blood everywhere.
Sixty minutes to plaster the drywall. Still have to sand and paint it.
I'm now the proud owner of a chain mail glove courtesy of Lee Valley
Tools. Just have to remember to use it when I'm handling something
sharp the next time.
"Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have to stop reading this thread now. <shudder>
>
> --
> Free bad advice available here.
> To reply, eat the taco.
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
No friggin kidding, and I was one that once saw hamburger meat at the end of
my thumb.
While dredging up the Haircut story, I came across another one I
called Spot's Tale. Perhaps you'll enjoy it.
Spot's Tale.
With a hobby of woodworking, I frequent a newsgroup called
rec.woodworking
on occasion. There, on a rainy Saturday afternoon, I recounted a
very true tale that
was both understood and appreciated by many fellow woodworkers.
Well, friends, let me recount a little tale to you that involves
my new Grizzly
shaper, a panel raising bit and an old cat that used to hang
around a sunny window
sill in my shop. His name was Spot.
For those of you who may not have yet played with a shaper, these
are big, floor-mounted tools
that can be likened to an 800 pound router. Most have
interchangeable spindles to handle different sized bits. Grizzly
sells theirs with
a very complete compliment of extra spindles of various sizes. The
spindles
have a Morse taper for alignment, but are locked in place with a
draw bolt that is
inserted up from the bottom of the female Morse and into the male
Morse component.
This locks it down into the socket, so to speak Because of this,
the vibration of a bit will
not loosen the spindle and permit it to fly out of the socket..
One particular afternoon, I'd made all of the rail and style cuts
for some
cabinet doors, and decided that it was time to see just how my new
panel
raising bit from Grizzly would work. Unlike some panel raising
bits, this
bit was BIG- over 5" across- and had a slight pitch to the three
cutting
blades to direct airflow and chips downward. Being so big, it
necessitated
me removing the 3/4" spindle from the shaper and inserting the 1".
Old Spot was my daughter's cat, and was absolutely fearless in the
shop. He
would just perch on a wide window sill in the sunlight, watching
outside for
birds or whatever else might catch a cat's attention. He simply
ignored me.
Old Spot was an indoor "house" cat. Once my daughter went off to
college,
Spot decided that he'd spend most of his days in the basement shop
with me,
since that was where all the action was. He was always a welcome
visitor
and companion. He always listened to me as I would "talk out" my
plans for
the day.
On the particular day in question, I inserted the large spindle in
the
shaper, and slid on the huge panel raising bit. Being intimidated
of the
shaper in general, and panel raising bit in particular, I took
good
precautions in seeing that the bit was firmly seated and that the
retaining
nuts were tight.
Satisfied with my enterprise, I reached down and turned the shaper
"on." At
that moment, as my fingers mashed the button, I remembered two
things I'd
overlooked.
1) I hadn't switched the belt from the 10,000 RPM position to the
7,000
RPM position; and,
2) I had forgotten to insert the draw bolt to hold down the
spindle.
With the sound of a jet engine, the shaper's 5-hp motor revved to
full
speed. As it did, I watched in horror as the several pound- 5"
panel
raising bit I had fastened so securely to the 1" spindle, rose
magnificently
out of the shaper . . attached to the spindle itself. In a way, it
looked
like a cross between a Frisbee designed by a madman and some
"space toy"
that my kids might buy. Being of sound mind, I decided that the
safest
place to be at that moment was lying on the floor with my hands
over my
head. As the bit rose into the air, I dove for the ground.
Now, here's where old Spot comes into the tale-
It seems that old Spot had been "short taken" in the shop that
afternoon,
and had decided that the pile of shavings beneath the shaper was
superior to
running upstairs to his litter box. It had never happened before,
and never
happened since, to the best of my knowledge. He had either
ingested
something that didn't agree with him, or my wife may have given
him one of
his pills for hairballs. It really didn't matter at that moment. .
. as I
dove headfirst into the shavings and their semi-liquid content.
The shaper bit and spindle sailed slowly and magnificently over my
head,
sounding like a jet engine, and crossed another 6' of shop before
crashing into a door. The door literally exploded, with one of the
panels and
style of the door shattered as easily as if they'd been hit with a
canon.
When I rose to take stock of the situation, it was apparent that
before I
could even begin to start cleaning up the damage, that I needed to
change
shirts and shower. (My good wife later suggested that I probably
should have
changed my shorts- but not because of the cat)
Spot lived another 2-3 years after that adventure, but finally
succumbed to
Leukemia one equally cold afternoon. Even now when I look out
Spot's window, I
sometimes still think I see him there, but when I see the stain he
left on
the floor of my shop, I don't miss him quite as much.
--
Nonny
What does it mean when drool runs
out of both sides of a drunken
Congressman's mouth?
The floor is level.
<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
I'm not diminishing the seriousness of a person in wheelchair who
has injured themselves. However, you could have had some fun with
it. If the horrible accident should happen again, consider leaving
the trail of blood, bashed wall and smears everwhere, and going to
a hotel for a few days. When the relative, caregiver, child,
neighbor or whoever discovers the blood and gore, the ensuing
ruckus would be entertaining until your resurface.
--
Nonny
What does it mean when drool runs
out of both sides of a drunken
Congressman's mouth?
The floor is level.
"Dave Balderstone" <dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca> wrote in
message
news:141120092259236035%dave@N_O_T_T_H_I_Sbalderstone.ca...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry
> Blanchard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was
>> ripping a piece
>> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip
>> fence and
>> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure
>> what
>> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped
>> and caught
>> the back edge of the blade.
>
> You dumb fuck...
>
>> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away.
>> No bone or
>> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little
>> fingernail
>> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
>> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
>
The nastiest cut I ever got in the shop was from a plain old
hacksaw and not from a power tool at all. I was cutting a tire
chain link with the hacksaw, holding the link in Vice Grips when I
gave a big "glory stroke." The first inch of the glory stroke cut
through the remainder of the link, with the balance across my left
index finger. It was opened up about half way into the bone.
Snow was a** deep to a 10' Indian and there was no chance of just
casually going to see a Dr. I was pretty much on my own, with the
help of the family and a neighbor.
My 12 year old son and 10 year old daughter heard me "casually
mention" my dismay at what I'd done, and came running. Once it
was obvious that I was not going to die, the kids got a lot of
entertainment looking into the wound and identifying body parts.
It was still something between spurting blood and just a rivulet
when my son turned to me and said, "Remember, Dad, pain follows
stupidity."
Later, after I'd splinted and bandaged the finger, I made certain
that he understood that speaking out like that was also an act of
stupidity. <grin>
--
Nonny
What does it mean when drool runs
out of both sides of a drunken
Congressmanâs mouth?
The floor is level.
"Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> A year later, my good wife STILL winces whenever she hears my dust
> collector winding up in the shop. The hair has grown back and is as
> pretty
> as before my "trim," but the fleeting trust that my wife has for my
> ability to cut
> hair is certainly diminished.
Why not? Everyone deserves a second chance!
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon.
Sorry you had the accident, but it sounds like you'll heal OK and
that you learned from the experience. It's a shame when something
like that happens.
--
Nonny
What does it mean when drool runs
out of both sides of a drunken
Congressmanâs mouth?
The floor is level.
Ever see what a man looks like after standing behind a piece of
1X6 he's ripping on a TS and leans what KICKBACK is? I saw it
happen to a niece's husband: right in the old reproductive system.
AFAIK, he's never tried using a TS again, and this was years and
years ago.
--
Nonny
What does it mean when drool runs
out of both sides of a drunken
Congressmanâs mouth?
The floor is level.
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
If you still don't know what happened, chances are you might do it again. I
had a similar accident 20 years ago. I "thought" it was kick back, that is
all I remember. After returning from the ER I noticed that my wood was
neatly stacked and had no blood on it. Obviously I was not cutting when I
cut my thumb. About 1 year later I almost did it again and realized at that
moment what I was doing when I cut the end of my thumb off. I was not
cutting however after a dodo cutting operation I was reaching to lift the
top fence off the TS immediately after turning the saw off. I raked my
thumb right over the top of the blade as I reached for the fence.
Fortunately this time I my thumb was shorter and I only felt the wind coming
off the top of the blade.
>
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
I removed the bone and flesh between my thumb pad and nail, down to the
first knuckle. The plastic surgeon on call removed my nail and wrapped my
thumb pad around the end of the newly sculpted knuckle.
Exect your thumb to feel very strange for quite a while. Things are not
going to feel like they are in the right place. ;~)
>
> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. I always do if the rip is
> 2" or less, but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
> described above. My new rule will be 3" or less.
I don't and will not use a push stick. What you need to use and what I use
is this.
http://www.microjig.com/ I have 2.
Expensive, a little but dam cheap compared to what the accident just cost
you. A SawStop would not be a bad idea either. And yes the SawStop is
probably cheaper than what this accident just cost you also. A push stick
typically does nothing to prevent the back of the blade from lifting the
wood up and throwing it back at you even if it is not a kick back. You
really need to firmly hold the wood DOWN on the TS surface when cutting.
>
> What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
> holiday season. I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus of
> "you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
Oops, did I just mention that?
Remember, you said it, you don't really remember what happened. You really
can't say what it would take to prevent you from making that mistake again.
Be very cautious and up your investment in better safety equipment.
>
> P.S. I expected the emergency room to be full of swine flu patients, but
> nary a one. They told me cases had been dropping off rapidly.
IMHO the Swine Flu epidemic was only a reality in the eyes of the media.
When the regular regular flu kills 75 times more people every year you know
it is all just hype. I suspect that the slow down on the media reports
probably is the reason for the lower amount of people showing up at the
hospital.
evodawg said:
>Larry Blanchard wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:26:06 -0600, Morris Dovey wrote:
>>
>>> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>>> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a
>>>> piece of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip
>>>> fence and was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not
>>>> sure what happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped
>>>> and caught the back edge of the blade.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Y'know, I'm beginning to like the idea of those Grabber gizmos more and
>>> more.
>>
>> Upon reflection, I think what happened was that the wood started to fall
>> off the back of the table and while pushing down my thumb slipped
>> sideways. If so, the rollers wouldn't have helped, the wood would have
>> been past them. But I do use them a lot and like them.
>>
>>
>Ever go to your butcher and see the guys cutting meat using those Chain Mail
>gloves. Not sure of the spelling but that could help if your fingers
>weren't forced into the blade. Just wonder if anyone would ever bother to
>put them on.
Anything that would tend to catch on a sharp blade tip sounds like a
bad idea to me. Chain mail mesh is great for long blades, but...
Greg G.
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:21:21 -0800, evodawg <[email protected]>
wrote:
>gloves. Not sure of the spelling but that could help if your fingers
>weren't forced into the blade. Just wonder if anyone would ever bother to
>put them on.
I have one of those chain mail gloves bought at Lee Valley. But they
are NOT and I can't emphasize strongly enough, NOT to be used anywhere
near machinery. They're to be used in the presence of knives or other
sharp manual tools, no machinery allowed.
Larry Blanchard said:
>On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 23:30:08 -0500, Greg G. wrote:
>>
>> If you are married and are desirous of a new tool, it does look like a
>> nice piece and should be an easy sell to the wife at this point.
>
>Unfortunately, even if I had the money I don't have the space.
I gotcha. And empathize thoroughly. Mine gets used as a storage shelf
and assembly table more often than not.
>> Perhaps you can pick up an extra buck or two as a window display hawking
>> the SS. ;-)
>
>I did think of putting a sign around my neck and standing by the SS :-).
Just make sure you get a cut of the commissions.
Take pictures, bloody it up a bit, shove it in wives and kids faces,
display the hospital bills. Thar's gold in them thar injuries.
Seriously, though. I'm truly glad it wasn't worse.
Tongues, on the other hand... ;-)
(Not yours, of course.)
Greg G.
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
>
Ouch! Sorry to hear that
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
>
Glad to hear that it will heal OK. Best of luck for quick recovery
> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. I always do if the rip is
> 2" or less, but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
> described above. My new rule will be 3" or less.
>
> What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
> holiday season. I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus of
> "you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
>
> P.S. I expected the emergency room to be full of swine flu patients, but
> nary a one. They told me cases had been dropping off rapidly.
>
--
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
Rob Leatham
"Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Pardon me for retelling an old, old tale about a shop incident, but
> perhaps it might make all those cuts and scabs feel a tad better. This
> true and unexaggerated tale was posted to the wreck long ago by me:
> ---------------------------------------
> A little over a year ago, I had an serious accident in my shop
> involving my 3 hp Jet dust collector. The recent discussion about dust
> collecting has given me the "shove" necessary to write about it and the
> passage of time has dulled the memory to the point where I can now discuss
> it in public.
>
> My wife is a sweetheart of a person, who I met for the first time while
> attending kindergarten in our home town in MO. She beat me up
> on that first day of school. We were always friends during our school
> years
> and continued to be friends right up to the time we were married. We've
> now been married for over 30 years, and she has mellowed to the point
> where she
> seldom beats me up anymore, since it upsets the dog..
>
> About a year ago, my wife and I decided to "reward" ourselves for the last
> kid going off to college with a trip to Alaska and a leisurely cruise down
> the Inside Passage to Vancouver. It was to be a vacation of a lifetime
> for us. Planning for the trip went smoothly, with the only glitch being
> my good wife forgetting to make an appointment at the beauty parlor for
> the day before we were to leave.
>
> I spent the day before the trip straightening up my shop so that a
> burglar wouldn't trip over anything and sue me for his injuries. My wife
> came downstairs in the afternoon to ask me if I would trim her hair just
> a tad so that it would look better for the trip. Having been
> virtually bald since my days in college, I have always cut my own
> hair with an old pair of Oster clippers that I bought while in college.
> There, I had learned the simple fact that food is more important than a
> professional haircut.
>
> In my shop, I have a 3-hp Jet dust collector that is fed via blast gates
> from both ducts in the floor AND via a 25' 4" flex hose that connects to
> the
> floor sweep/planer/jointer or other movable tools. Since my wife's hair
> is about 3" long, I thought that it'd be nice to hold the clippers inside
> the 4" flex pipe so that her hair would stand straight out from her
> head. I felt this would make it easier to get a smooth cut.
>
> **********************************************************************
> note: FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MIGHT BE SENSITIVE, quit reading right here
> **********************************************************************
>
> For those of you continuing to read this tale of woe, here's what
> happened. This is absolutely true and unadulterated or exaggerated.
>
> My dear wife of 30+ years, and the mother of my children, placed her rump
> on a stool I keep in the shop and proceeded to tell me exactly how much
> hair she wanted removed from the top, sides and bangs. I walked over to
> the DC, fired it up and closed off all but the blast gate leading to the
> 4" flex hose. With the old Oster clippers up inside the hose and me
> grasping the cutter end of them between my thumb and forefinger, I could
> hold the 4" flex hose with the other hand and maneuver both things easily.
>
> I leaned over my wife's pretty face and made the first cut- doing her
> bangs.
>
> The hair stood out perfectly from her forehead and the results of that
> first swipe was terrific. I figured that I would probably get some reward
> from a beauty college for my wonderful invention. The second swipe was
> from side-to-side just above and behind the bangs. It went equally well.
>
> Then all hell broke loose.
>
> I claim that my wife moved, but she claims that claim is merely caused by
> the random firing of obviously defective neurons in my addled brain.
>
> For the third swipe, I had walked around to the rear of my wife's head and
> was beginning to make the cut across the top of her head. Regardless of
> the cause (I still say it had to be her fault), the damn 4" flex hose
> somehow sucked down onto the top of her dear, sweet little head. The
> clippers
> were running full bore up inside the pipe and doing the job that Mr. Oster
> had designed his clippers to do.
>
> The suction of a DC hose isn't great, but when even the most modest
> suction is spread over the area of a 4" hose (that conforms well to the
> shape of a wife's head), there is a momentary and significant "grab." It
> startled my good wife, who let out with a squall and tried to stand up/
> kick me/ brush the 4" hose off of her head and explain how I was mentally
> defective all at the same time. During all this, I was attempting to
> knock the hose away from her head as well. I succeeded in
> dislodging it (actually, it probably fell off on its own), but it fell to
> the OTHER side of her precious little head.
>
> The result was that my wife now had perfectly trimmed bangs, followed by
> a bald stripe that went damn near from ear-to-ear across the top of her
> head. Think of it as an inverted Mowhawk that has been rotated 90
> degrees. This was NOT what my dear wife had in mind when she asked me to
> trim a bit off of her hair.
>
> This tale now goes from bad to worse, because I tried to remedy the
> problem by tapering the hair toward the "kerf" and shortening up the rest.
> Saying that my attempts to remedy the situation were unsuccessful would be
> like saying that General Custer was unsuccessful at pacifying the Indians.
>
> When that poor old woman finally got to the mirror, I knew that a personal
> Hell for me was at hand. It was. Now I stand just over 6', am in pretty
> good shape and tip the scales at almost 280#. My sweet wife and companion
> of all those years couldn't be over 5'-4", weighs a LOT less and has
> Multiple Sclerosis. However, she took one look at her new "do" and took
> off after me like a rabid Doberman. She runs pretty darn well when she's
> mad, I learned something else that afternoon. I also learned that the
> sweet
> old woman had obviously been kicked out of the Marine Corps because of her
> foul, potty mouth. The things that woman said, and the things that she
> called me, have absolutely prevented her from EVER enjoying the pleasures
> of Heaven, in my humble opinion.
>
> I got little sleep that night, since my good wife felt the need to wake me
> every ten minutes or so to further discuss the consternation and distress
> I'd caused her, and to share her emotions and feelings with me. Since
> Lorena Bobbit had been in the news recently, I had very real additional
> reasons to remain awake and sober. We were leaving that next morning and
> there was no time for her to get a wig. We simply went ahead with the
> trip, with my wife looking (and acting) like a madwoman. Needless to say,
> the subject of her hair came up frequently. Whenever things would get a
> little boring on the cruise, I'd tell her, "Honny, that haircut looks like
> hell," and it would start all over again.
>
> I tried to alleviate the tension by confidentially offering more rational
> explanations to inquiring folks than that she was "having a bad-hair day."
> I explained to our cabin steward that my wife had been in a fight with a
> wildcat while knife-hunting in Colorado. I told our waiter that she had
> she had almost completely overcome a terribly contagious case of head
> lice. A waitress in the lounge was told that medication had almost
> completely curbed my wife's terrible impulses with butcher knives.
> Generally, I'd just comment to curious folks that, "She's much calmer now
> that the medication is taking effect."
>
> A year later, my good wife STILL winces whenever she hears my dust
> collector winding up in the shop. The hair has grown back and is as
> pretty
> as before my "trim," but the fleeting trust that my wife has for my
> ability to cut
> hair is certainly diminished.
>
>
> --
> Nonny
>
> What does it mean when drool runs
> out of both sides of a drunken
> Congressman's mouth?
>
> The floor is level.
>
>
>
The best stories are always true and you sir, are a master story teller.
I've saved this and the following one. : )
diggerop
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
>
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
>
> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. I always do if the rip is
> 2" or less, but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
> described above. My new rule will be 3" or less.
>
> What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
> holiday season. I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus of
> "you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
>
> P.S. I expected the emergency room to be full of swine flu patients, but
> nary a one. They told me cases had been dropping off rapidly.
>
> --
> Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
I had an OOPS in April, lost 3/4's of my left index finger. I have another
surgery in 3 weeks to fix a problem. I have NO idea what happened, all I
remember is being outsde the shop looking at what used to be a finger and
saying OH SHIT.
Just goes to show ya what happens when you have a brain fart!
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:22:00 -0500, "Lee Michaels"
<leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net> wrote:
>It healed up nicely. When I told the owner of the
>store what happened, he said that he appreciated it that I did not bleed all
>over the place.
Businesses appreciate it when customers leave without making their
premises look like a slaughterhouse. :)
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:24:02 -0800, Larry Jaques
<novalidaddress@di\/ersify.com> wrote:
>>typically does nothing to prevent the back of the blade from lifting the
>>wood up and throwing it back at you even if it is not a kick back. You
>>really need to firmly hold the wood DOWN on the TS surface when cutting.
Don't featherboards vertical and horizontal fulfill that function? Or,
are you talking about something too small for a featherboard to grab?
Featherboards as in the magnetic set below I bought a year ago.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=55999&cat=1,42363,42356
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 16:53:06 -0600, Leon wrote:
> "Steve Turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I have to stop reading this thread now. <shudder>
>>
>> --
>> Free bad advice available here.
>> To reply, eat the taco.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
>
> No friggin kidding, and I was one that once saw hamburger meat at the
> end of my thumb.
Well, now I can join that elite group :-).
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
Larry Blanchard wrote,on my timestamp of 15/11/2009 2:06 PM:
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
Ouch! Make sure you figure out how, Larry: only way to sensibly avoid it in future.
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
Fast recovery and fast healing wishes!
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
Owwiee! :-#
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
Best wishes for a quick mend...
> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. I always do if the rip is
> 2" or less, but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
> described above. My new rule will be 3" or less.
Y'know, I'm beginning to like the idea of those Grabber gizmos more and
more.
--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
>
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
>
> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. I always do if the rip is
> 2" or less, but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
> described above. My new rule will be 3" or less.
>
> What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
> holiday season. I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus of
> "you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
>
> P.S. I expected the emergency room to be full of swine flu patients, but
> nary a one. They told me cases had been dropping off rapidly.
>
Happen to me a few months back. Just caught the tip of my thumb. I don't
ever remember moving my thumb that fast ever. Just nicked the skin and tip,
healed up very fast. I knew why it happened, I was in a hurry and was not
using a push stick.
Glad it wasn't to bad on you. But it will teach a good lesson without much
loss. It could have been a much worse lesson.
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
Website Address http://rentmyhusband.biz/
Leon wrote:
> "Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. I always do if the rip is
>> 2" or less, but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
>> described above. My new rule will be 3" or less.
>
> I don't and will not use a push stick. What you need to use and what I use
> is this.
>
> http://www.microjig.com/ I have 2.
>
> Expensive, a little but dam cheap compared to what the accident just cost
> you. A SawStop would not be a bad idea either. And yes the SawStop is
> probably cheaper than what this accident just cost you also. A push stick
> typically does nothing to prevent the back of the blade from lifting the
> wood up and throwing it back at you even if it is not a kick back. You
> really need to firmly hold the wood DOWN on the TS surface when cutting.
I agree absolutely. If you don't have a *pair* of GRR-Rippers, drop what you're doing and
order a couple right now; do not pass "Go", do not collect $100, and don't bitch about the
price. Be sure and get the 1/8" leg assembly; they are very useful.
--
Free bad advice available here.
To reply, eat the taco.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/
Larry Blanchard wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:26:06 -0600, Morris Dovey wrote:
>
>> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a
>>> piece of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip
>>> fence and was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not
>>> sure what happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped
>>> and caught the back edge of the blade.
>>
>
>>
>> Y'know, I'm beginning to like the idea of those Grabber gizmos more and
>> more.
>
> Upon reflection, I think what happened was that the wood started to fall
> off the back of the table and while pushing down my thumb slipped
> sideways. If so, the rollers wouldn't have helped, the wood would have
> been past them. But I do use them a lot and like them.
>
>
>
>
Ever go to your butcher and see the guys cutting meat using those Chain Mail
gloves. Not sure of the spelling but that could help if your fingers
weren't forced into the blade. Just wonder if anyone would ever bother to
put them on.
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evodawg wrote:
> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:26:06 -0600, Morris Dovey wrote:
>>
>>> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>>> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a
>>>> piece of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip
>>>> fence and was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still
>>>> not sure what happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb
>>>> slipped and caught the back edge of the blade.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Y'know, I'm beginning to like the idea of those Grabber gizmos more
>>> and more.
>>
>> Upon reflection, I think what happened was that the wood started to
>> fall off the back of the table and while pushing down my thumb
>> slipped sideways. If so, the rollers wouldn't have helped, the wood
>> would have been past them. But I do use them a lot and like them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Ever go to your butcher and see the guys cutting meat using those
> Chain Mail gloves. Not sure of the spelling but that could help if
> your fingers weren't forced into the blade. Just wonder if anyone
> would ever bother to put them on.
Not wise to use those with a table saw--it will pull the glove off and all
the skin from your hand with it. They're fine for knives and chisels and
maybe for meat slicers, but not for saws.
I use one when I'm slicing with a mandoline--now _that_ is a scary tool.
J. Clarke wrote:
> evodawg wrote:
>> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:26:06 -0600, Morris Dovey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Larry Blanchard wrote:
>>>>> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a
>>>>> piece of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip
>>>>> fence and was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still
>>>>> not sure what happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb
>>>>> slipped and caught the back edge of the blade.
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Y'know, I'm beginning to like the idea of those Grabber gizmos more
>>>> and more.
>>>
>>> Upon reflection, I think what happened was that the wood started to
>>> fall off the back of the table and while pushing down my thumb
>>> slipped sideways. If so, the rollers wouldn't have helped, the wood
>>> would have been past them. But I do use them a lot and like them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Ever go to your butcher and see the guys cutting meat using those
>> Chain Mail gloves. Not sure of the spelling but that could help if
>> your fingers weren't forced into the blade. Just wonder if anyone
>> would ever bother to put them on.
>
> Not wise to use those with a table saw--it will pull the glove off and all
> the skin from your hand with it. They're fine for knives and chisels and
> maybe for meat slicers, but not for saws.
>
> I use one when I'm slicing with a mandoline--now _that_ is a scary tool.
Yeah that does make sense now that I've thought about it and you brought it
to my attention.
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[email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:21:21 -0800, evodawg <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>gloves. Not sure of the spelling but that could help if your fingers
>>weren't forced into the blade. Just wonder if anyone would ever bother to
>>put them on.
>
> I have one of those chain mail gloves bought at Lee Valley. But they
> are NOT and I can't emphasize strongly enough, NOT to be used anywhere
> near machinery. They're to be used in the presence of knives or other
> sharp manual tools, no machinery allowed.
It was a thought and it looks like a bad one at that!
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Nonny wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> I'm not diminishing the seriousness of a person in wheelchair who
> has injured themselves. However, you could have had some fun with
> it. If the horrible accident should happen again, consider leaving
> the trail of blood, bashed wall and smears everwhere, and going to
> a hotel for a few days. When the relative, caregiver, child,
> neighbor or whoever discovers the blood and gore, the ensuing
> ruckus would be entertaining until your resurface.
Don't do that. When I was in high school I came home late one night and
found the house empty and blood all over the place. This was around the
time of the Tate-LaBianca murders. I called the sheriff and about the time
he arrived my parents showed up--seems that my mother had backed a stray cat
into a corner and it panicked and tore an artery and my father had taken her
to the emergency room to get sewn up.
It may seem like a fun practical joke but scaring people in that fashion
isn't a good kind of fun.
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 08:22:21 -0600, the infamous "Leon"
<[email protected]> scrawled the following:
>I don't and will not use a push stick. What you need to use and what I use
>is this.
>
>http://www.microjig.com/ I have 2.
>
>Expensive, a little but dam cheap compared to what the accident just cost
>you. A SawStop would not be a bad idea either. And yes the SawStop is
>probably cheaper than what this accident just cost you also. A push stick
>typically does nothing to prevent the back of the blade from lifting the
>wood up and throwing it back at you even if it is not a kick back. You
>really need to firmly hold the wood DOWN on the TS surface when cutting.
I use push sticks (commercial plastic types or ripped wooden strips),
but for small parts, I use one of these. It's a damn sight cheaper
than a MicroJig. (I could buy _29_ of these or one GRR-Rippit!)
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=97276
Self-stick 60 grit sandpaper (ROS paper, afore I got the velcro style)
on the plastic pieces makes it hold wood a whole lot better than it
did stock from the Chiwanese factory.
'Course, I use my crosscut sled for small parts, too, with a dowel or
stick holddown on top. It keeps the precious finners away from the
sharp and spinny things.
--
When we are planning for posterity,
we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.
-- Thomas Paine
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
>
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
>
> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. I always do if the rip is
> 2" or less, but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
> described above. My new rule will be 3" or less.
>
> What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
> holiday season. I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus of
> "you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
>
> P.S. I expected the emergency room to be full of swine flu patients, but
> nary a one. They told me cases had been dropping off rapidly.
>
> --
> Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
Glad it's only minor. I did the same a little while back, middle LH finger.
Wasn't using a push stick then, .......do now.
Hope it heals quickly.
diggerop
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:28:36 -0800, "Nonny" <[email protected]> wrote:
>a hotel for a few days. When the relative, caregiver, child,
>neighbor or whoever discovers the blood and gore, the ensuing
>ruckus would be entertaining until your resurface.
Joking aside, that would feed the potential horror scene that every
wheelchair bound person feels at one time or another. I'm talking
about some 'know it all' person or body sweeping in and taking control
of your life because they think you're not capable of handling your
own affairs any more. It's happened several times when I've been out
in public and I hit some damned pothole the wrong way and get thrown
out of my chair. Of course, dozen's of people rally around and lift me
back into my chair. While I appreciate the help, it gives me a moment
of terror whenever I'm manhandled by two dozen people at the same
time. :)
I suspect it's much the same feeling that an older person gets when
everybody wants you to move to a nursing home because you're 'too old'
to look after yourself any more.
Of course, it will happen to me at some time in the future. But, I
have a solution. When the time comes and I fall out of my wheelchair
unable to get myself back in it without help, then I'm going to lay
there without calling for help. That will show them.
Damn them all.
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:06:38 -0600, Larry Blanchard
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon.
Ouchers! And condolences.
And thanks for posting.
Safety HAS to be a controlling factor. Keep posting the losses and
near lossese.
-jbb
I ran one of my favourite digits ( left index) through the buzzer a couple
of months ago . .and trimmed her up about 15mm off the end.
Most painful and debilitating "little" injury I have inflicted on myself
( and I have few) and after three months I still keep the little bugger
under wraps it is so tender and sensitive with this weird nail thing going
on . . .
I feel your pain - and your "I wasn't doing anything wrong " approach . .. .
as I wasn't either when I did mine on something I had done a thousand times
before . . .
In my case the worst thing was that I was actually doing something for
myself instead of a paying client ( the new front doors for my new
shop/gallery) and to top it off -the Jarrah timber that I was running
through the jointer was 'finger jointed' as well .. . .
Fortunately in this case my insurance company were actually very good and
paid up without any problems . .
And even more scary - when finally got to the hospital 100 k away - it was
full of roughty toughty blokes with mushed up fingers . .. felt like a
brother.
In about 12 months it should be right - but the left handed nose pick is a
real bugger.
And you know what . .? .. the first thing that happens when you tell
people that you have done a finger in . . . every bugger in the world
suddenly starts telling you all about their stupid finger story . . . ..
.!!!!
Cheers Larry - its your finger story ..
Phully
"Larry Blanchard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well, the tablesaw finally bit me this afternoon. I was ripping a piece
> of padauk to 2.5" wide. I had my fingers hooked over the rip fence and
> was pushing with my thumb and index finger. I'm still not sure what
> happened, but at the end of the cut somehow my thumb slipped and caught
> the back edge of the blade.
>
> Luckily it was the back edge - it threw my thumb up and away. No bone or
> nerve damage according to the hospital, but I lost a little fingernail
> and a lot of the pad of my thumb. Looked like fresh hamburger.
> Everything should heal OK with no permanent damage.
>
> Maybe I should have been using a push stick. I always do if the rip is
> 2" or less, but wider than that I've always just pushed it through as
> described above. My new rule will be 3" or less.
>
> What's really bad is that I'm working at Woodcraft again, just for the
> holiday season. I'm going in tomorrow and I can just hear the chorus of
> "you shoulda' had a SawStop" :-).
>
> P.S. I expected the emergency room to be full of swine flu patients, but
> nary a one. They told me cases had been dropping off rapidly.
>
> --
> Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:46:55 -0500, upscale wrote:
> Ten minutes to bandage my hand.
> Forty minutes to clean up splatters of blood everywhere. Sixty minutes
> to plaster the drywall. Still have to sand and paint it.
I managed not to leave much blood, but I didn't have to propel a
wheelchair. Hope yours heals faster than I expect mine to.
--
Intelligence is an experiment that failed - G. B. Shaw
"Al" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I had an OOPS in April, lost 3/4's of my left index finger. I
> have another surgery in 3 weeks to fix a problem. I have NO idea
> what happened, all I remember is being outsde the shop looking
> at what used to be a finger and saying OH SHIT.
> Just goes to show ya what happens when you have a brain fart!
My buddy asked to borrow my reciprocating saw to cut the ends off
some rafters on a shed he was building. (This is the same buddy
who patched me up when I cut the sh*t out of my finger with the
hacksaw.) The blade in the sawzall-type recip was very stiff and
had coarse teeth with a lot of set to them.
About an hour later, here he came to the house, extremely pi**ed
off at ME for lending him the saw. He had held it with his thumb
behind the hand hold and had gotten the thumb/saw between two
rafters. Then, the blade jammed in the kerf and the saw itself
began to reciprocate, rather than the blade. Each time the blade
would extend, the saw would pop back against the next rafter, with
his thumb there to "cushion" the blow.
There was really nothing to be done, other than to staunch the
flow of blood. I got my needle nose pliers and pulled off the
remains of his thumb nail. The bone tip was flattened as well as
the meat of the thumb. I simply placed a tongue depressor under
the thumb and taped it to his wrist to prevent movement, then used
gauze to wrap the thumb and more tape to "round it up." I changed
his dressing every day and today his thumb looks perfectly normal
and has full function, since he didn't get into the joint.
--
Nonny
What does it mean when drool runs
out of both sides of a drunken
Congressmans mouth?
The floor is level.