I've heard so many good thinkgs about the DeWalt 733 and the Makita 2012NB,
though they seem to be discontinued and newer versions are available.
I've been looking at the DeWalt 734 and 735.... I really like the look of
the 735. The Dust collection on it is far superior then many others I've
seen.
Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott<-
"Scott Townsend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've heard so many good thinkgs about the DeWalt 733 and the Makita
2012NB,
> though they seem to be discontinued and newer versions are available.
>
> I've been looking at the DeWalt 734 and 735.... I really like the look of
> the 735. The Dust collection on it is far superior then many others I've
> seen.
>
> Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
>
> Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott<-
Dust Collection is very critical. Planers make an awful mess and you don't
want any of that fine dust (particularly from MDF) floating around for too
long.
Two Speeds critical? Well My planer only has one speed. Never found a need
for two so far. I suppose you might use two speeds if you had them, but I
wouldn't say it was critical.
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"Scott Townsend" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I've heard so many good thinkgs about the DeWalt 733 and the Makita 2012NB,
> though they seem to be discontinued and newer versions are available.
>
> I've been looking at the DeWalt 734 and 735.... I really like the look of
> the 735. The Dust collection on it is far superior then many others I've
> seen.
>
> Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
>
> Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott<-
The Dust Collection on the 735 absolutely rocks. I don't even use a
shop vac. I just attach a hose going to a garbage can on the outlet,
the internal chip extractor does the rest. It is very powerful.
As far as the two speeds go, I can't see tremendous jaw dropping
difference between the dimensioning and finishing speeds, but the
latter is a tad smoother.
Brian.
"Scott Townsend" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I've heard so many good thinkgs about the DeWalt 733 and the Makita 2012NB,
> though they seem to be discontinued and newer versions are available.
>
> I've been looking at the DeWalt 734 and 735.... I really like the look of
> the 735. The Dust collection on it is far superior then many others I've
> seen.
>
> Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
>
> Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott<-
I've recently acquired a DW735, but have put very little wood through
it thus far. The surface is all they claim it is. I will be buying
the extension tables to help with some snipe due to my technique of
board insertion and removal.
The planer is fairly loud, the fan assist dust collection is more
powerfull then my shop vac. I have to clamp the lid on the vac with
the planer connected up. We are talking leaf blower velocities here.
There have been some broken DW735's due to an inadequate sprocket
design, most recently made units have an updated part. Not sure if
mine is old or new, need to check with Dewalt on that one soon.
Very happy with it, $446 with woodworkers.com delivered in 2 days via
Fed Ex Ground.
Alan
"Scott Townsend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
>
Ran my planer one time and then bought a dust collector.
Ed
Yep, slow feed speed usually results in a better surface.
However, if planning a LOT of boardfeet of lumber the faster feed rate
MAY produce a finish that is acceptable AND save you hours of time
John
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:59:58 GMT, "Mike Richardson"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>You know, being a relatively new owner of a two speed 15" planer....I
>wondered about the faster speed. I said to myself, I said "Self, umm ifn
>you just leave it on slow feed the bitey bits will bite more often, and make
>a nice smoover surface."
> Self had no comment, so I took that as agreement...
>
>Was self a smart guy?
>
>NOT CHARLES! (I know he smart - he published :-))
>
>snip
>
>> > Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
>> >
>> > Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Scott<-
>>
>> Dust Collection is very critical. Planers make an awful mess and you don't
>> want any of that fine dust (particularly from MDF) floating around for too
>> long.
>> Two Speeds critical? Well My planer only has one speed. Never found a need
>> for two so far. I suppose you might use two speeds if you had them, but I
>> wouldn't say it was critical.
>
>snip
>
John Crea notes:
>
>Yep, slow feed speed usually results in a better surface.
>
>However, if planning a LOT of boardfeet of lumber the faster feed rate
>MAY produce a finish that is acceptable AND save you hours of time
>
>John
>
>On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:59:58 GMT, "Mike Richardson"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>You know, being a relatively new owner of a two speed 15" planer....I
>>wondered about the faster speed. I said to myself, I said "Self, umm ifn
>>you just leave it on slow feed the bitey bits will bite more often, and make
>>a nice smoover surface."
>> Self had no comment, so I took that as agreement...
>>
>>Was self a smart guy?
>>
>>NOT CHARLES! (I know he smart - he published :-))
>>
>>snip
>>
>>> > Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
Two speeds is handy, not critical. Dust collection is not just critical, it is
CRITICAL!
Charlie Self
"It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended from
man."
H. L. Mencken
When I bought my Delta 22-580 its finishing speed was superb,
but that lasted only a little while (until the blades had a few board feet
on them).
The finishing speed still produces a clearer surface and saves me time
as far as sanding goes. I like having the option anyway.
The dust collector is a must and and a good ROS, too.
"Charlie Self" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John Crea notes:
>
> >
> >Yep, slow feed speed usually results in a better surface.
> >
> >However, if planning a LOT of boardfeet of lumber the faster feed rate
> >MAY produce a finish that is acceptable AND save you hours of time
> >
> >John
> >
> >On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:59:58 GMT, "Mike Richardson"
> ><[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>You know, being a relatively new owner of a two speed 15" planer....I
> >>wondered about the faster speed. I said to myself, I said "Self, umm
ifn
> >>you just leave it on slow feed the bitey bits will bite more often, and
make
> >>a nice smoover surface."
> >> Self had no comment, so I took that as agreement...
> >>
> >>Was self a smart guy?
> >>
> >>NOT CHARLES! (I know he smart - he published :-))
> >>
> >>snip
> >>
> >>> > Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
>
> Two speeds is handy, not critical. Dust collection is not just critical,
it is
> CRITICAL!
>
> Charlie Self
> "It is even harder for the average ape to believe that he has descended
from
> man."
> H. L. Mencken
>
>
>
You know, being a relatively new owner of a two speed 15" planer....I
wondered about the faster speed. I said to myself, I said "Self, umm ifn
you just leave it on slow feed the bitey bits will bite more often, and make
a nice smoover surface."
Self had no comment, so I took that as agreement...
Was self a smart guy?
NOT CHARLES! (I know he smart - he published :-))
snip
> > Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
> >
> > Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott<-
>
> Dust Collection is very critical. Planers make an awful mess and you don't
> want any of that fine dust (particularly from MDF) floating around for too
> long.
> Two Speeds critical? Well My planer only has one speed. Never found a need
> for two so far. I suppose you might use two speeds if you had them, but I
> wouldn't say it was critical.
snip
"Scott Townsend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I've been looking at the DeWalt 734 and 735.... I really like the look of
> the 735. The Dust collection on it is far superior then many others I've
> seen.
I just bought the 735 myself.
>
> Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
>
Yes to Dust Collection. Don't even consider running the planer without it.
On two speeds you'll hear a lot of "nope's".
The slow speed came in handy for me last week, however.
Had some Jatoba that I wanted to try to thin to 1/8" - for giggles (and trim
work).
Took very, very thin cuts (1/64"). Fast speed made a mess out'a it. Slower
speed actually made a big difference.
Your mileage, of course, may vary...
"Scott Townsend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've heard so many good thinkgs about the DeWalt 733 and the Makita
2012NB,
> though they seem to be discontinued and newer versions are available.
>
> I've been looking at the DeWalt 734 and 735.... I really like the look of
> the 735. The Dust collection on it is far superior then many others I've
> seen.
>
> Is the Dust Collection and the 2 Speeds that Critical?
>
> Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.
Dust collection is critical if you don't want dust. If you have good
ventilation and don't mind using a broom and dust pan, let the dust fall to
the floor.
2 speeds are almost a necessity on a "FAST" LARGE planer. IMHO it is simply
a sales gimmick that you are paying extra for when it is offered on a
portable planer.
Here is what the 2 speed is all about on the large planers. The large
planers will plane wood rather quickly and roughly on high speed. This
enables the board thickness to be brought down to almost finish thickness
quickly. At this speed visible scallops on the wood surface are easy to
see. The slower speed is to produce a smoother surface that is ready to be
hand planed, scraped, or sanded.
In an attempt to appear like a larger planer some manufacturers have merged
this concept of 2 speeds to the smaller portable planers. The 2 speed
portables "fast" speed plane at a slow speed comparable to the slow speed on
the large stationary planers to start with, and with the 2nd "slow" speed
they plane E V E N S L O W E R producing for a limited time, a
smoother surface. This S L O W E R speed is described as the "finish"
speed. Here is the problem with that "finish" speed. It is S L O W and
really does not eliminate the need to hand plane, scrape, or sand the
surface before applying a finish. Some argue that the surface is ready for
the finish to be applied after this S L O W pass through the planer. They
might be happy with this finish for the first 5 to 10 boards that come
through the planer with the new fresh set of knives but because it is only
natural for planer knives to develop nicks, this Smooth surface is
relatively short lived. Before long, grooves will start showing up on the
boards and the process of hand planing, scraping, or sanding before going to
the step of applying a finish will be back in the routine.
[email protected] (MHaseltine) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I bought the Delta 2-speed a little over a year ago and I will say that using
> the faster speed does give a nice, smooth finish. The slower speed also gives
> a nice finish.
>
> As far as dust collection yes, yes and yes. I did have a little problem when I
> hooked the planner up to my dust collector - namely the collector hose
> clogged-up at the collector inlet. I have a Grizzley DC and the inlet has a
> web made into it to keep out big stuff and protect the impellor blades. The
> shavings from the planner ended up not passing through web and clogging the
> hose. I bought a cyclone lid for a metal trash can, installed the cyclone
> between the planner and DC which fixed the problem. Just something to think
> about.
>
> Michael
Thank you all for your input.
My Main reasofn for asking about the 2 speeds is I know I want the
Dust collection and the DeWalt 735 has much better dust collection
then the 734. Though the 735 is $100 more. Its hard to justify the
$100 just for the Dust even if it comes with the 2 speeds?
Does anyone have a 734 hooled to a Dust collection System. It says it
comes with a dust hood, though it looks more like it keeps it from
flying off the top...
Thanks,
Scott<-
I bought the Delta 2-speed a little over a year ago and I will say that using
the faster speed does give a nice, smooth finish. The slower speed also gives
a nice finish.
As far as dust collection yes, yes and yes. I did have a little problem when I
hooked the planner up to my dust collector - namely the collector hose
clogged-up at the collector inlet. I have a Grizzley DC and the inlet has a
web made into it to keep out big stuff and protect the impellor blades. The
shavings from the planner ended up not passing through web and clogging the
hose. I bought a cyclone lid for a metal trash can, installed the cyclone
between the planner and DC which fixed the problem. Just something to think
about.
Michael
So I went and bought the 735....
Whoa Nellie! Talk about an impeller that will "work" without external
suction. Without the shopvac on, it was blowing the lid right off!
We planed 3.5"x16' MDF at about just better then 16th of an inch, there were
12 of them. We filled 2.3 buckets of the 35 Gallon ShopVac! Pretty much no
other particles anywhere. Well thats not true, after it filled up the hose
in the shopvac cause we didn't notice it filled up, we had some chips kick
back. (-;
I do not have much experience with other planers, but in my opinion, the
extra $100 for that type of dust collection is way worth it! The thing
without the vaccum hose on it was shooting stuff 25+ feet? amazing!
Thank you all for your help!
Scott<-
"Stephen M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I have the 733.
>
> The dust hood works just fine with my dust collector. It catches 99.9%.
> Before I got my cyclone up and working I used my shop vac on the dust port
> (the 733 came with both the dust hood and a 4"-2.5" adapter... Although it
> filled quickly, it did a quite serviceable job (97% collection?)
>
> I believe that the 735 has and integrated impeller that will "work"
without
> external suction. I doubt that it is as good as a "real" dust collector
but
> I imagine that it would be way better than nothing as an interim solution.
>
> Is dust collection in the true sense essential? Yes if you include
> integrated impellers and shop vacs. I had a delta sipemaster a few years
> back that had no collection at all. It was a monstrous mess. If you have
not
> used a planer before you will be astounded at the volume of chips
generated.
>
> Let me try to quantify that for you. I am currently planing 55 square feet
> of white oak from 5/4 rough to 1" finish thickness. (14 stair treads plus
a
> small landing). I have filled the 55 gallon drum (from empty) and I'm
about
> 70% done.
>
> -Steve
>
>
>
> "Scott Townsend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [email protected] (MHaseltine) wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > > I bought the Delta 2-speed a little over a year ago and I will say
that
> using
> > > the faster speed does give a nice, smooth finish. The slower speed
also
> gives
> > > a nice finish.
> > >
> > > As far as dust collection yes, yes and yes. I did have a little
problem
> when I
> > > hooked the planner up to my dust collector - namely the collector hose
> > > clogged-up at the collector inlet. I have a Grizzley DC and the inlet
> has a
> > > web made into it to keep out big stuff and protect the impellor
blades.
> The
> > > shavings from the planner ended up not passing through web and
clogging
> the
> > > hose. I bought a cyclone lid for a metal trash can, installed the
> cyclone
> > > between the planner and DC which fixed the problem. Just something to
> think
> > > about.
> > >
> > > Michael
> >
> >
> > Thank you all for your input.
> >
> > My Main reasofn for asking about the 2 speeds is I know I want the
> > Dust collection and the DeWalt 735 has much better dust collection
> > then the 734. Though the 735 is $100 more. Its hard to justify the
> > $100 just for the Dust even if it comes with the 2 speeds?
> >
> > Does anyone have a 734 hooled to a Dust collection System. It says it
> > comes with a dust hood, though it looks more like it keeps it from
> > flying off the top...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Scott<-
>
>
I have the 733.
The dust hood works just fine with my dust collector. It catches 99.9%.
Before I got my cyclone up and working I used my shop vac on the dust port
(the 733 came with both the dust hood and a 4"-2.5" adapter... Although it
filled quickly, it did a quite serviceable job (97% collection?)
I believe that the 735 has and integrated impeller that will "work" without
external suction. I doubt that it is as good as a "real" dust collector but
I imagine that it would be way better than nothing as an interim solution.
Is dust collection in the true sense essential? Yes if you include
integrated impellers and shop vacs. I had a delta sipemaster a few years
back that had no collection at all. It was a monstrous mess. If you have not
used a planer before you will be astounded at the volume of chips generated.
Let me try to quantify that for you. I am currently planing 55 square feet
of white oak from 5/4 rough to 1" finish thickness. (14 stair treads plus a
small landing). I have filled the 55 gallon drum (from empty) and I'm about
70% done.
-Steve
"Scott Townsend" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (MHaseltine) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > I bought the Delta 2-speed a little over a year ago and I will say that
using
> > the faster speed does give a nice, smooth finish. The slower speed also
gives
> > a nice finish.
> >
> > As far as dust collection yes, yes and yes. I did have a little problem
when I
> > hooked the planner up to my dust collector - namely the collector hose
> > clogged-up at the collector inlet. I have a Grizzley DC and the inlet
has a
> > web made into it to keep out big stuff and protect the impellor blades.
The
> > shavings from the planner ended up not passing through web and clogging
the
> > hose. I bought a cyclone lid for a metal trash can, installed the
cyclone
> > between the planner and DC which fixed the problem. Just something to
think
> > about.
> >
> > Michael
>
>
> Thank you all for your input.
>
> My Main reasofn for asking about the 2 speeds is I know I want the
> Dust collection and the DeWalt 735 has much better dust collection
> then the 734. Though the 735 is $100 more. Its hard to justify the
> $100 just for the Dust even if it comes with the 2 speeds?
>
> Does anyone have a 734 hooled to a Dust collection System. It says it
> comes with a dust hood, though it looks more like it keeps it from
> flying off the top...
>
> Thanks,
> Scott<-