MF

"Michael Faurot"

24/03/2007 6:49 PM

Wainscot/moulding conundrum

SWMBO says she wants either some type wainscot or perhaps just a
chair rail style moulding installed in a bedroom. Shouldn't be a
problem, I've done moulding many times before and I think I can
handle wainscot okay.

What I haven't dealt with before is these houses that with rounded
outside corners on the walls. With regard to doing just a moulding, I
can imagine the solution is to get moulding that has rounded corner
pieces available. My recollection on this is fuzzy, but I don't
believe I've ever seen that at any of the big box stores. That's
ideally where I'd want to get it, but if Home Depot/Lowes don't carry
this stuff, what type of store does?

Now, with the wainscot, I suspect the way to deal with a rounded
outside corner is just turn it into a regular 90 degree outside corner
and not try and make the wainscot follow the radius of the corner.
So it seem like it would be necessary to use something like a piece of
corner moulding to cover the rounded corner, which would then give the
wainscot something to attach to at that point. Is this the way it's
typically dealt with? Is there a better way?

Thanks.

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"Michael Faurot"

in reply to "Michael Faurot" on 24/03/2007 6:49 PM

26/03/2007 12:33 PM

Mike O. <[email protected]> wrote:

> For an alternative we often will turn the molding around the round
> corner with two 45 degree angles. This requires a 22 1/2 degree cut
> on the end of the pieces coming from each direction with a third small
> piece, to make the turn, with the same 22 1/2 degree cut on both ends.
> This certainly is not a round corner but does look much softer than
> just running a square turn with your molding. This also eliminates
> the large hole (by turning it into 2 small holes) left between the
> back side of your molding and the round corner when running the
> molding square.

That's certainly a possibility for this situation. I had been
thinking if I did just bring two pieces of moulding together against
the rounded corner to form a sharp 90, it would leave a big hole
behind it that would need to be filled somehow. Doing two 22-1/2
degree cuts with a little filler block does sound better. What do you
typically wind up filling the two holes with, behind the filler block?
Are they small enough that they could just be filled with regular
chaulking, without looking weird?

I'll bet, if the moulding is thick enough, I could also use a rounded
rasp on the middle of the little filler block to get a tigther fit as
well. Maybe even eliminate the holes all together.

Thanks for the tip and ideas!

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Mike O.

in reply to "Michael Faurot" on 24/03/2007 6:49 PM

25/03/2007 2:20 PM

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:49:52 -0500, "Michael Faurot"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>What I haven't dealt with before is these houses that with rounded
>outside corners on the walls. With regard to doing just a moulding, I
>can imagine the solution is to get moulding that has rounded corner
>pieces available. My recollection on this is fuzzy, but I don't
>believe I've ever seen that at any of the big box stores.

If you can find a round corner that matches your chair rail of course
that's the best way to go.
For an alternative we often will turn the molding around the round
corner with two 45 degree angles. This requires a 22 1/2 degree cut
on the end of the pieces coming from each direction with a third small
piece, to make the turn, with the same 22 1/2 degree cut on both ends.
This certainly is not a round corner but does look much softer than
just running a square turn with your molding. This also eliminates
the large hole (by turning it into 2 small holes) left between the
back side of your molding and the round corner when running the
molding square.

The same thing can be done with a wainscot but might be quite a
challenge if using 1/4" material on the walls.

Mike O.

Dd

"DanG"

in reply to "Michael Faurot" on 24/03/2007 6:49 PM

25/03/2007 8:34 AM

I'm sorry, I should have read more. The wood moldings are made
and available here:
http://www.woodgrid.com/
from Midwestern wood products.

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"Michael Faurot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> SWMBO says she wants either some type wainscot or perhaps just a
> chair rail style moulding installed in a bedroom. Shouldn't be
> a
> problem, I've done moulding many times before and I think I can
> handle wainscot okay.
>
> What I haven't dealt with before is these houses that with
> rounded
> outside corners on the walls. With regard to doing just a
> moulding, I
> can imagine the solution is to get moulding that has rounded
> corner
> pieces available. My recollection on this is fuzzy, but I don't
> believe I've ever seen that at any of the big box stores.
> That's
> ideally where I'd want to get it, but if Home Depot/Lowes don't
> carry
> this stuff, what type of store does?
>
> Now, with the wainscot, I suspect the way to deal with a rounded
> outside corner is just turn it into a regular 90 degree outside
> corner
> and not try and make the wainscot follow the radius of the
> corner.
> So it seem like it would be necessary to use something like a
> piece of
> corner moulding to cover the rounded corner, which would then
> give the
> wainscot something to attach to at that point. Is this the way
> it's
> typically dealt with? Is there a better way?
>
> Thanks.
>
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> numbers and
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"DanG"

in reply to "Michael Faurot" on 24/03/2007 6:49 PM

25/03/2007 8:26 AM

Scroll to the bottom of this page:
<http://www.trim-tex.com/catalog/staplegunsandtools.htm>
TrimTex makes great drywall products. and have wood corners ready
to work with your situation.


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"Michael Faurot" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> SWMBO says she wants either some type wainscot or perhaps just a
> chair rail style moulding installed in a bedroom. Shouldn't be
> a
> problem, I've done moulding many times before and I think I can
> handle wainscot okay.
>
> What I haven't dealt with before is these houses that with
> rounded
> outside corners on the walls. With regard to doing just a
> moulding, I
> can imagine the solution is to get moulding that has rounded
> corner
> pieces available. My recollection on this is fuzzy, but I don't
> believe I've ever seen that at any of the big box stores.
> That's
> ideally where I'd want to get it, but if Home Depot/Lowes don't
> carry
> this stuff, what type of store does?
>
> Now, with the wainscot, I suspect the way to deal with a rounded
> outside corner is just turn it into a regular 90 degree outside
> corner
> and not try and make the wainscot follow the radius of the
> corner.
> So it seem like it would be necessary to use something like a
> piece of
> corner moulding to cover the rounded corner, which would then
> give the
> wainscot something to attach to at that point. Is this the way
> it's
> typically dealt with? Is there a better way?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
>
> If you want to reply via email, change the obvious words to
> numbers and
> remove ".invalid".

MO

Mike O.

in reply to "Michael Faurot" on 24/03/2007 6:49 PM

26/03/2007 6:20 PM

On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:33:27 -0500, "Michael Faurot"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>degree cuts with a little filler block does sound better. What do you
>typically wind up filling the two holes with, behind the filler block?
>Are they small enough that they could just be filled with regular
>chaulking, without looking weird?

I think you'll find that the two little holes on the back side will be
very small. If your painting the molding caulking will do the trick
otherwise, you may not need anything.
It's a little bit tricky to get the first one but after that you will
have a good idea of what to do. The trick is that the pieces coming
from each direction have to hang past the start of the radius just a
small amount to make the little piece work. You can experiment with
any kind of scrap to save your molding. The most common round corner
we see around here requires that the small piece be about 9/16" across
the back side between the two angles. Cut that piece and a couple of
short pieces with 22 1/2 cuts on opposite ends and hold all three
together at the corner. You will see how far the wall pieces have to
hang past the start of the radius. The 9/16 piece may not work if
your corners are a different size.
Good luck.

Mike O.

MF

"Michael Faurot"

in reply to "Michael Faurot" on 24/03/2007 6:49 PM

26/03/2007 12:25 PM

DanG <[email protected]> wrote:
> Scroll to the bottom of this page:
> <http://www.trim-tex.com/catalog/staplegunsandtools.htm>
> TrimTex makes great drywall products. and have wood corners ready
> to work with your situation.

O, I see the possibilities now. :) Yes, that's interesting. It looks
like by using one of the "Bullnose Corner Blocks" you'd put that on
the rounded corner and then butt the moulding or wainscot to it.

Thanks for the tip!

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