JB

"John B"

14/02/2006 6:24 AM

Guitar Stand Woes

I'm really stuck. I've searched the web for designs without finding one that
works for me. Seems that the more utilitarian designs aren't attractive and
the attractive designs aren't utilitarian. I've taken my very utilitarian
store-bought metal one into my shop and tried to envision a nice design that
incorporates the utilitarian functions more elegantly. I've experimented
with trying to create bent wood laminated members, but with limited success.

All of my previous experience is in making furniture and such, where the
basic form is box-like and I'm feeling really inept trying to envision a
free flowing form. Any suggestions?


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"Woodchuck34"

in reply to "John B" on 14/02/2006 6:24 AM

14/02/2006 6:45 AM


John B wrote:
> I'm really stuck. I've searched the web for designs without finding one that
> works for me. Seems that the more utilitarian designs aren't attractive and
> the attractive designs aren't utilitarian. I've taken my very utilitarian
> store-bought metal one into my shop and tried to envision a nice design that
> incorporates the utilitarian functions more elegantly. I've experimented
> with trying to create bent wood laminated members, but with limited success.
>
> All of my previous experience is in making furniture and such, where the
> basic form is box-like and I'm feeling really inept trying to envision a
> free flowing form. Any suggestions?

I often thought about doing something like this. Browse some of the
joints on Pat Warner's website, www.patwarner.com

I was thinking about using some roundover bits to make a "U" shaped
wooden piece to hold the neck of the guitar, and then copy his table
base that was inspired by the seats at LAX (see his precision routing
section for some examples).

Good luck and let me know if you come up with a good design.

Chuck

Aa

"Andy"

in reply to "John B" on 14/02/2006 6:24 AM

14/02/2006 7:06 AM

>I'm feeling really inept trying to envision a free flowing form. Any suggestions?

I have a hard time thinking "beyond the box" and past right angles also
- I know what you mean. I like Steve's idea above of finding the
contact points with your guitar, and connecting them with some curves.
As far as making the curves, how did you go about laminating the pieces
into curves? Sorry if this is what you tried, but one fairly
straightforward method (i.e. no steaming) involves making templates of
a few thicknesses of 3/4" plywood. One would look sort of like this [)
and one like this )], if that makes sense, with curves being your
appropriate radius. If you wanted 1" thick piece to have a 30" radius,
the convex piece would have a 30" radius, and the concave side would
have a 31" radius. Take several thin strips (<1/4", depending on
material), glue them all thoroughly, lay them in the template, and
clamp them tight. Clamps or guide blocks on the top and bottom could
keep the strips from sliding up or down.
One link I found in the archives here with several guitar stand designs
is
http://woodcentral.com/contests/guitarstand/contest_guitarstandresults.shtml
Hope this helps,
Andy

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"Andy"

in reply to "John B" on 14/02/2006 6:24 AM

14/02/2006 8:57 PM

>Many thanks to all for the useful info. Particularly Andy...

Wish I could take all the credit, but I found it in the archives here -
I remembered seeing a similar thread a few months ago, and I was
impressed with some of the designs on that website. Glad you found
some inspiration,
Andy

Gg

"GeeDubb"

in reply to "John B" on 14/02/2006 6:24 AM

14/02/2006 8:58 AM


"John B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm really stuck. I've searched the web for designs without finding one
> that works for me. Seems that the more utilitarian designs aren't
> attractive and the attractive designs aren't utilitarian. I've taken my
> very utilitarian store-bought metal one into my shop and tried to envision
> a nice design that incorporates the utilitarian functions more elegantly.
> I've experimented with trying to create bent wood laminated members, but
> with limited success.
>
> All of my previous experience is in making furniture and such, where the
> basic form is box-like and I'm feeling really inept trying to envision a
> free flowing form. Any suggestions?
well none in particular but something that helped me design my daughters
chess table was google.images
http://images.google.com/images?q=%22guitar+stand%22&hl=en

there are a lot of things to look at here

Gary

DS

"Doug Schultz"

in reply to "John B" on 14/02/2006 6:24 AM

14/02/2006 7:08 PM

THere is a cool stand that I have seen that hooks the body at the bottom and
rests the body at the top of the stand.
THis makes the stand about 18" total in height.
the stand is 2 identical wooden hooks that stand on the floor and are hinged
together at the top. maybe a strap to keep it from sliding all the way apart
at the bottom
I dont know if this is clear or not but I will see if I can find a pic of it
to share.

Doug

"John B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I'm really stuck. I've searched the web for designs without finding one
> that works for me. Seems that the more utilitarian designs aren't
> attractive and the attractive designs aren't utilitarian. I've taken my
> very utilitarian store-bought metal one into my shop and tried to envision
> a nice design that incorporates the utilitarian functions more elegantly.
> I've experimented with trying to create bent wood laminated members, but
> with limited success.
>
> All of my previous experience is in making furniture and such, where the
> basic form is box-like and I'm feeling really inept trying to envision a
> free flowing form. Any suggestions?
>

GG

Greg G.

in reply to "John B" on 14/02/2006 6:24 AM

14/02/2006 7:31 AM

John B said:

...
>All of my previous experience is in making furniture and such, where the
>basic form is box-like and I'm feeling really inept trying to envision a
>free flowing form. Any suggestions?

Woodcarving?
A natural for free flowing designs - if you can afford solid blanks.

FWIW,

Greg G.

JB

"John B"

in reply to "John B" on 14/02/2006 6:24 AM

14/02/2006 2:56 PM

Many thanks to all for the useful info. Particularly Andy, who gave me this
url, which contains a design that should be readily adaptable to what I'm
looking forl.

http://woodcentral.com/contests/guitarstand/contest_guitarstandresults.shtml

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to "John B" on 14/02/2006 6:24 AM

14/02/2006 8:41 AM

I have not built one, but here's how I would approach it:

A few utilitarian concerns: acoustic or electric? Should hold a specific
instrument or a range?

Build a prototype to establish the angles and size of the contact points
between the instrument and the stand. Besides getting the thing to balance
(sit in a stable way) almost everything else is aesthetic.

KISS; just connect the dots (contact points) with some flowing lines and see
what immerges. Concern yourself with joinery last.

I hope that helps.

-Steve


> All of my previous experience is in making furniture and such, where the
> basic form is box-like and I'm feeling really inept trying to envision a
> free flowing form. Any suggestions?
>
>

MO

Mike O.

in reply to "John B" on 14/02/2006 6:24 AM

14/02/2006 1:31 PM

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 06:24:16 -0600, "John B" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I'm really stuck. I've searched the web for designs without finding one that
>works for me. Seems that the more utilitarian designs aren't attractive and
>the attractive designs aren't utilitarian. I've taken my very utilitarian
>store-bought metal one into my shop and tried to envision a nice design that
>incorporates the utilitarian functions more elegantly. I've experimented
>with trying to create bent wood laminated members, but with limited success.

You might have a look at these for some inspiration.
http://www.katahdin-online.com/cradandres.html

Mike O.


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