On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:47:02 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lew, I'm still here and still digging. Thanks for asking.
My neighborhood got over 58" (last I measured). I broke a 1/2"
hardened steel shaft on the wheel drive assembly of my 10 HP snow
blower. That was without hitting anything other than snow. Got
almost everything cleared up now thanks to the 60 degree temps a day
or so after.
>
>[email protected] wrote:
>
>> About 6 inches on the ground down the road in Waterloo. A whole lot
>> better than 40 inches in Buff.
>------------------------------------
>Where is Jack Novak these days?
>
>Need an on the ground pair of eyes.
>
>Lew
>
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
[email protected] wrote:
> About 6 inches on the ground down the road in Waterloo. A whole lot
> better than 40 inches in Buff.
------------------------------------
Where is Jack Novak these days?
Need an on the ground pair of eyes.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
> Cleveland to Buffalo gets hammered.
>
> Lake effect snow came early this year.
>
> Time to put another log on the fire.
--------------------------------------------------
Last time I remember the winter being this bad this early
was the winter of 76-77 and 77-78.
Two nasty winters in a row was more than I wanted to
handle and thus the migration to warmer climates went
into planning mode.
Lew
"Leon" wrote:
> I think Buffalo gets a pretty big blast every year. Jack use to
> post pictures of his yard, rather the outdoor hallway from the
> street to this front door that was as high as the eves on his roof
> and that has been posted a few times in the last 10~15 or so years.
-----------------------------------------
If you look at a map, you will see that Lake Erie has Toledo on the
west
and Buffalo on the east, a distance of approximately 240-250 miles
with
Cleveland being about 100 miles east of Toledo.
From Cleveland thru Erie to Buffalo the shoreline lies at about a
30-40
degree angle above horizontal.
This creates a natural funnel with Buffalo at the funnel spout.
When the westerly winds come in they have about 250 miles of open
water to cross before the lake freezes over in the winter.
The cold air picks up the warm lake water and carries it ashore where
the land rises sharply along the southern shore and the water vapor
converts to snow and drops out thus gaining the name of the snow belt.
The whole thing is no more than 20 miles wide along the south shore of
Lake Erie starting about 20 miles east of Cleveland and ending at
Buffalo
where the mother lode dumps on Buffalo.
Not uncommon to have to get up on the roof and shovel the snow off to
keep the roof from collapsing at least once or twice a season.
Lew
On 11/20/2014 8:26 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>
>> Last time I remember the winter being this bad this early
>> was the winter of 76-77 and 77-78.
>>
>> Two nasty winters in a row was more than I wanted to
>> handle and thus the migration to warmer climates went
>> into planning mode.
>>
>
> I was just trying to remember when the last big blast burried Buffalo and I
> couldn't remember if it was in the late 70's or early 80's. Back then, the
> storm that hit was so big and so hard, that we were sending construction
> companies from Syracuse to Buffalo, with bulldozers and front-end loaders
> out to Buffalo, just to clear city streets. Really - D8's clearing city
> streets, rural roads, etc. Long lines of 10 wheel dump trucks being loaded
> with snow to dump in outlying areas. It seemed that everyone that had any
> kind of heavy equipment was out there.
>
I think Buffalo gets a pretty big blast every year. Jack use to post
pictures of his yard, rather the outdoor hallway from the street to this
front door that was as high as the eves on his roof and that has been
posted a few times in the last 10~15 or so years.
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:08:51 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 11/20/2014 8:26 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>
>>> Last time I remember the winter being this bad this early
>>> was the winter of 76-77 and 77-78.
>>>
>>> Two nasty winters in a row was more than I wanted to
>>> handle and thus the migration to warmer climates went
>>> into planning mode.
>>>
>>
>> I was just trying to remember when the last big blast burried Buffalo and I
>> couldn't remember if it was in the late 70's or early 80's. Back then, the
>> storm that hit was so big and so hard, that we were sending construction
>> companies from Syracuse to Buffalo, with bulldozers and front-end loaders
>> out to Buffalo, just to clear city streets. Really - D8's clearing city
>> streets, rural roads, etc. Long lines of 10 wheel dump trucks being loaded
>> with snow to dump in outlying areas. It seemed that everyone that had any
>> kind of heavy equipment was out there.
>>
>
>
>I think Buffalo gets a pretty big blast every year. Jack use to post
>pictures of his yard, rather the outdoor hallway from the street to this
>front door that was as high as the eves on his roof and that has been
>posted a few times in the last 10~15 or so years.
I posted a picture of this month's snow storm to
alt.pictures.woodworking. This is the first day I've had a chance to
read the news group since it hit.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA
On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:21:21 -0500, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/20/2014 10:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:51:43 -0500, FrozenNorth
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/20/2014 2:16 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>> "Leon" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think Buffalo gets a pretty big blast every year. Jack use to
>>>>> post pictures of his yard, rather the outdoor hallway from the
>>>>> street to this front door that was as high as the eves on his roof
>>>>> and that has been posted a few times in the last 10~15 or so years.
>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>> If you look at a map, you will see that Lake Erie has Toledo on the
>>>> west
>>>> and Buffalo on the east, a distance of approximately 240-250 miles
>>>> with
>>>> Cleveland being about 100 miles east of Toledo.
>>>>
>>>> From Cleveland thru Erie to Buffalo the shoreline lies at about a
>>>> 30-40
>>>> degree angle above horizontal.
>>>>
>>>> This creates a natural funnel with Buffalo at the funnel spout.
>>>>
>>>> When the westerly winds come in they have about 250 miles of open
>>>> water to cross before the lake freezes over in the winter.
>>>>
>>>> The cold air picks up the warm lake water and carries it ashore where
>>>> the land rises sharply along the southern shore and the water vapor
>>>> converts to snow and drops out thus gaining the name of the snow belt.
>>>>
>>>> The whole thing is no more than 20 miles wide along the south shore of
>>>> Lake Erie starting about 20 miles east of Cleveland and ending at
>>>> Buffalo
>>>> where the mother lode dumps on Buffalo.
>>>>
>>>> Not uncommon to have to get up on the roof and shovel the snow off to
>>>> keep the roof from collapsing at least once or twice a season.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yep, I am in Toronto, not that much further away slightly to the
>>> northeast, we have about an inch to an inch and a half.
>> And 60 miles west in Waterloo, about 6 inches, more or less.
>>
>And a friend in Parry Sound is buried.
Yes, my brother on the county border between Huntsville and Parry
Sound has a couple feet of snow on his property. Thankfully he has the
new house all closed in and modt of the outside work (decks etc)
finished. Hoping to get out of the trailer into the house before
Christmas
On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:01:51 -0500, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/18/2014 4:12 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Cleveland to Buffalo gets hammered.
>>
>> Lake effect snow came early this year.
>>
>> Time to put another log on the fire.
>>
>Glad I am in Toronto, just got a trace, but it is damn cold out there.
About 6 inches on the ground down the road in Waterloo. A whole lot
better than 40 inches in Buff.
On 11/19/2014 10:31 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>
>> Cleveland to Buffalo gets hammered.
>>
>> Lake effect snow came early this year.
>>
>> Time to put another log on the fire.
> --------------------------------------------------
> Last time I remember the winter being this bad this early
> was the winter of 76-77 and 77-78.
>
> Two nasty winters in a row was more than I wanted to
> handle and thus the migration to warmer climates went
> into planning mode.
>
> Lew
>
>
Global warming, Lew.
Oh wait, you mean it happened before???
On 11/18/2014 4:12 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Cleveland to Buffalo gets hammered.
>
> Lake effect snow came early this year.
>
> Time to put another log on the fire.
>
> Lew
>
>
But you have to admit that when it is white and sparkley it sure is pretty.
We live in Eastern Carolina, the only thing we get is cold depressing
foggy days.
On 11/18/2014 4:12 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Cleveland to Buffalo gets hammered.
>
> Lake effect snow came early this year.
>
> Time to put another log on the fire.
>
Glad I am in Toronto, just got a trace, but it is damn cold out there.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 11/18/2014 6:25 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:01:51 -0500, FrozenNorth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/18/2014 4:12 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Cleveland to Buffalo gets hammered.
>>>
>>> Lake effect snow came early this year.
>>>
>>> Time to put another log on the fire.
>>>
>> Glad I am in Toronto, just got a trace, but it is damn cold out there.
> About 6 inches on the ground down the road in Waterloo. A whole lot
> better than 40 inches in Buff.
>
Yep, just saw Buffalo on the news, all I can say is WOW glad I am not
there. Less than an inch here.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Last time I remember the winter being this bad this early
> was the winter of 76-77 and 77-78.
>
> Two nasty winters in a row was more than I wanted to
> handle and thus the migration to warmer climates went
> into planning mode.
>
I was just trying to remember when the last big blast burried Buffalo and I
couldn't remember if it was in the late 70's or early 80's. Back then, the
storm that hit was so big and so hard, that we were sending construction
companies from Syracuse to Buffalo, with bulldozers and front-end loaders
out to Buffalo, just to clear city streets. Really - D8's clearing city
streets, rural roads, etc. Long lines of 10 wheel dump trucks being loaded
with snow to dump in outlying areas. It seemed that everyone that had any
kind of heavy equipment was out there.
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
Richard wrote:
> On 11/19/2014 10:31 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
>>
>>> Cleveland to Buffalo gets hammered.
>>>
>>> Lake effect snow came early this year.
>>>
>>> Time to put another log on the fire.
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> Last time I remember the winter being this bad this early
>> was the winter of 76-77 and 77-78.
>>
>> Two nasty winters in a row was more than I wanted to
>> handle and thus the migration to warmer climates went
>> into planning mode.
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>
> Global warming, Lew.
>
> Oh wait, you mean it happened before???
Yes it did! But the snow is warmer this year...
--
-Mike-
[email protected]
On 11/20/2014 2:16 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> "Leon" wrote:
>
>> I think Buffalo gets a pretty big blast every year. Jack use to
>> post pictures of his yard, rather the outdoor hallway from the
>> street to this front door that was as high as the eves on his roof
>> and that has been posted a few times in the last 10~15 or so years.
> -----------------------------------------
> If you look at a map, you will see that Lake Erie has Toledo on the
> west
> and Buffalo on the east, a distance of approximately 240-250 miles
> with
> Cleveland being about 100 miles east of Toledo.
>
> From Cleveland thru Erie to Buffalo the shoreline lies at about a
> 30-40
> degree angle above horizontal.
>
> This creates a natural funnel with Buffalo at the funnel spout.
>
> When the westerly winds come in they have about 250 miles of open
> water to cross before the lake freezes over in the winter.
>
> The cold air picks up the warm lake water and carries it ashore where
> the land rises sharply along the southern shore and the water vapor
> converts to snow and drops out thus gaining the name of the snow belt.
>
> The whole thing is no more than 20 miles wide along the south shore of
> Lake Erie starting about 20 miles east of Cleveland and ending at
> Buffalo
> where the mother lode dumps on Buffalo.
>
> Not uncommon to have to get up on the roof and shovel the snow off to
> keep the roof from collapsing at least once or twice a season.
>
>
Yep, I am in Toronto, not that much further away slightly to the
northeast, we have about an inch to an inch and a half.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
Calif. rainy this a.m. now blue sky and T-Shirt weather.
stay warm....
john
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
Cleveland to Buffalo gets hammered.
Lake effect snow came early this year.
Time to put another log on the fire.
Lew
On 11/20/2014 10:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:51:43 -0500, FrozenNorth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/20/2014 2:16 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> "Leon" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think Buffalo gets a pretty big blast every year. Jack use to
>>>> post pictures of his yard, rather the outdoor hallway from the
>>>> street to this front door that was as high as the eves on his roof
>>>> and that has been posted a few times in the last 10~15 or so years.
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>> If you look at a map, you will see that Lake Erie has Toledo on the
>>> west
>>> and Buffalo on the east, a distance of approximately 240-250 miles
>>> with
>>> Cleveland being about 100 miles east of Toledo.
>>>
>>> From Cleveland thru Erie to Buffalo the shoreline lies at about a
>>> 30-40
>>> degree angle above horizontal.
>>>
>>> This creates a natural funnel with Buffalo at the funnel spout.
>>>
>>> When the westerly winds come in they have about 250 miles of open
>>> water to cross before the lake freezes over in the winter.
>>>
>>> The cold air picks up the warm lake water and carries it ashore where
>>> the land rises sharply along the southern shore and the water vapor
>>> converts to snow and drops out thus gaining the name of the snow belt.
>>>
>>> The whole thing is no more than 20 miles wide along the south shore of
>>> Lake Erie starting about 20 miles east of Cleveland and ending at
>>> Buffalo
>>> where the mother lode dumps on Buffalo.
>>>
>>> Not uncommon to have to get up on the roof and shovel the snow off to
>>> keep the roof from collapsing at least once or twice a season.
>>>
>>>
>> Yep, I am in Toronto, not that much further away slightly to the
>> northeast, we have about an inch to an inch and a half.
> And 60 miles west in Waterloo, about 6 inches, more or less.
>
And a friend in Parry Sound is buried.
--
Froz...
The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.
On 2014-11-21 8:21 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2014 00:21:21 -0500, FrozenNorth
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/20/2014 10:14 PM, [email protected] wrote:
>>> On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:51:43 -0500, FrozenNorth
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/20/2014 2:16 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>>>> "Leon" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think Buffalo gets a pretty big blast every year. Jack use to
>>>>>> post pictures of his yard, rather the outdoor hallway from the
>>>>>> street to this front door that was as high as the eves on his roof
>>>>>> and that has been posted a few times in the last 10~15 or so years.
>>>>> -----------------------------------------
>>>>> If you look at a map, you will see that Lake Erie has Toledo on the
>>>>> west
>>>>> and Buffalo on the east, a distance of approximately 240-250 miles
>>>>> with
>>>>> Cleveland being about 100 miles east of Toledo.
>>>>>
>>>>> From Cleveland thru Erie to Buffalo the shoreline lies at about a
>>>>> 30-40
>>>>> degree angle above horizontal.
>>>>>
>>>>> This creates a natural funnel with Buffalo at the funnel spout.
>>>>>
>>>>> When the westerly winds come in they have about 250 miles of open
>>>>> water to cross before the lake freezes over in the winter.
>>>>>
>>>>> The cold air picks up the warm lake water and carries it ashore where
>>>>> the land rises sharply along the southern shore and the water vapor
>>>>> converts to snow and drops out thus gaining the name of the snow belt.
>>>>>
>>>>> The whole thing is no more than 20 miles wide along the south shore of
>>>>> Lake Erie starting about 20 miles east of Cleveland and ending at
>>>>> Buffalo
>>>>> where the mother lode dumps on Buffalo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not uncommon to have to get up on the roof and shovel the snow off to
>>>>> keep the roof from collapsing at least once or twice a season.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yep, I am in Toronto, not that much further away slightly to the
>>>> northeast, we have about an inch to an inch and a half.
>>> And 60 miles west in Waterloo, about 6 inches, more or less.
>>>
>> And a friend in Parry Sound is buried.
> Yes, my brother on the county border between Huntsville and Parry
> Sound has a couple feet of snow on his property. Thankfully he has the
> new house all closed in and modt of the outside work (decks etc)
> finished. Hoping to get out of the trailer into the house before
> Christmas
>
I can confirm the snowfall in Muskoka has been really high this week -
2+ feet over the last few days... The real pain is pile at the end of
the driveway from the plows, but I guess I should be thankful the plow
shows up regularly!
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:51:43 -0500, FrozenNorth
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 11/20/2014 2:16 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> "Leon" wrote:
>>
>>> I think Buffalo gets a pretty big blast every year. Jack use to
>>> post pictures of his yard, rather the outdoor hallway from the
>>> street to this front door that was as high as the eves on his roof
>>> and that has been posted a few times in the last 10~15 or so years.
>> -----------------------------------------
>> If you look at a map, you will see that Lake Erie has Toledo on the
>> west
>> and Buffalo on the east, a distance of approximately 240-250 miles
>> with
>> Cleveland being about 100 miles east of Toledo.
>>
>> From Cleveland thru Erie to Buffalo the shoreline lies at about a
>> 30-40
>> degree angle above horizontal.
>>
>> This creates a natural funnel with Buffalo at the funnel spout.
>>
>> When the westerly winds come in they have about 250 miles of open
>> water to cross before the lake freezes over in the winter.
>>
>> The cold air picks up the warm lake water and carries it ashore where
>> the land rises sharply along the southern shore and the water vapor
>> converts to snow and drops out thus gaining the name of the snow belt.
>>
>> The whole thing is no more than 20 miles wide along the south shore of
>> Lake Erie starting about 20 miles east of Cleveland and ending at
>> Buffalo
>> where the mother lode dumps on Buffalo.
>>
>> Not uncommon to have to get up on the roof and shovel the snow off to
>> keep the roof from collapsing at least once or twice a season.
>>
>>
>Yep, I am in Toronto, not that much further away slightly to the
>northeast, we have about an inch to an inch and a half.
And 60 miles west in Waterloo, about 6 inches, more or less.