Ll

Leon

28/12/2015 4:08 PM

OT OT TurboTax

Last year there was quite the fluff over TT2014 dropping schedule C from
all but the Home and Business versions.

That has changed to the way it used to be. Sorta. I use to use the
Basic and get Schedule C. apparently Basic is no longer available
except for free and Free does not include Schedule C, I THINK.

Anyway Deluxe 2015 apparently once again has all the forms we used to
get in prior to last year.

http://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/uncategorized/turbotax-restores-popular-forms-to-desktop-software-2-20330/


Deluxe 2015 At amazon for $30.

http://www.amazon.com/TurboTax-Deluxe-Federal-Preparation-Software/dp/B01617VNBK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451340263&sr=8-2&keywords=turbotax+deluxe+2015


This topic has 21 replies

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

28/12/2015 11:19 PM

<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:08:13 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> Last year there was quite the fluff over TT2014 dropping schedule C from
>> all but the Home and Business versions.
>>
>> That has changed to the way it used to be. Sorta. I use to use the
>> Basic and get Schedule C. apparently Basic is no longer available
>> except for free and Free does not include Schedule C, I THINK.
>>
>> Anyway Deluxe 2015 apparently once again has all the forms we used to
>> get in prior to last year.
>>
>> http://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/uncategorized/turbotax-restores-popular-forms-to-desktop-software-2-20330/
>>
>>
>> Deluxe 2015 At amazon for $30.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/TurboTax-Deluxe-Federal-Preparation-Software/dp/B01617VNBK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451340263&sr=8-2&keywords=turbotax+deluxe+2015
>
> I gave up on Turbo some years ago when they did some really stupid
> things. I've been using what's now called H&R Block Tax for several
> years. Best deal so far is this link at newegg.com
>
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=8405351&SID=35197b16adea11e5a926da716ee9e25f0INT&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16832732058&cm_sp=
>
> and this code for HALF PRICE: EMCKNNW23
>
> The Deluxe + State download version with free Federal E-file is $22.50
> after the discount.
>
>
So far Turbo Tax works for me so no need to change a 25+ year tradition.
It's what I know.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 11:11 AM

On 12/28/2015 11:30 PM, Bill wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:08:13 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Last year there was quite the fluff over TT2014 dropping schedule C from
>>> all but the Home and Business versions.
>>>
>>> That has changed to the way it used to be. Sorta. I use to use the
>>> Basic and get Schedule C. apparently Basic is no longer available
>>> except for free and Free does not include Schedule C, I THINK.
>>>
>>> Anyway Deluxe 2015 apparently once again has all the forms we used to
>>> get in prior to last year.
>>>
>>> http://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/uncategorized/turbotax-restores-popular-forms-to-desktop-software-2-20330/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Deluxe 2015 At amazon for $30.
>>>
>>> http://www.amazon.com/TurboTax-Deluxe-Federal-Preparation-Software/dp/B01617VNBK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451340263&sr=8-2&keywords=turbotax+deluxe+2015
>>>
>> I gave up on Turbo some years ago when they did some really stupid
>> things. I've been using what's now called H&R Block Tax for several
>> years. Best deal so far is this link at newegg.com
>>
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=8405351&SID=35197b16adea11e5a926da716ee9e25f0INT&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16832732058&cm_sp=
>>
>>
>> and this code for HALF PRICE: EMCKNNW23
>>
>> The Deluxe + State download version with free Federal E-file is $22.50
>> after the discount.
>>
>
> It's "interesting" that they Require an email address to get the
> discount (basically saving $7.50), and they disclose that they "will"
> add you to their email list if you make a purchase. I was going to
> order (just now), but I decided it wasn't worth $7.50 to be spammed all
> year (by who knows who...). By the way, this version does not include
> the "10% bonus" (on increments of $100 from your federal tax return)
> which you can find from other sellers of the product. I found Intuit's
> conduct so poor last year however, that I switched to H&RB's product,
> and I intend to use it again this year. It won't cost me more than
> $29.99 though because they sent me a coupon for that price in the mail.
> It's also currently $29.99 at Amazon.com, at least it has been recently,
> and that version includes the 10% bonus.
>
> Bill



More than likely H&R gives the discount only if you provide your e-mail
address so that "they" can contact you about future purchases. They
probably would not let anyone else have your information if they say
that they would not share or sell it. Most likely you could opt out
from their e-mails in the future.

IV

Ivan Vegvary

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

29/12/2015 8:28 AM

Don't understand this worry about spam. I use Gmail (6 years) and every bit of spam goes into my "promotional" folder. Maybe one in a thousand sneaks into my "primary" folder. I ignore the promo folder except when I need to look at a Harbor Freight ad.

Pp

Puckdropper

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

29/12/2015 3:47 PM

Bill <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

>
> It's "interesting" that they Require an email address to get the
> discount (basically saving $7.50), and they disclose that they "will"
> add you to their email list if you make a purchase. I was going to
> order (just now), but I decided it wasn't worth $7.50 to be spammed
> all year (by who knows who...). By the way, this version does not
> include the "10% bonus" (on increments of $100 from your federal tax
> return) which you can find from other sellers of the product. I found
> Intuit's conduct so poor last year however, that I switched to H&RB's
> product, and I intend to use it again this year. It won't cost me more
> than $29.99 though because they sent me a coupon for that price in the
> mail. It's also currently $29.99 at Amazon.com, at least it has been
> recently, and that version includes the 10% bonus.
>
> Bill
>

I have a special e-mail address just for things like that. I have it set
up to forward to my main e-mail where it gets sorted into a folder for
deletion later.

Apparently Yahoo! mail lets you set up "disposable" addresses, but you
have to set a base name and then the digits are disposable. You only get
one chance per account to set the base name, they don't tell you that.

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 11:07 AM

On 12/29/2015 9:33 AM, Swingman wrote:
> On 12/28/2015 11:19 PM, Leon wrote:
>
>> So far Turbo Tax works for me so no need to change a 25+ year tradition.
>> It's what I know.
>
> Ditto ... as much as I despise Intuit's business model, I've had good
> luck so far with TurboTax the past twenty years. Buy their audit
> insurance each year, had to use it once a few years back, One of their
> lawyers represented me for a total of less than $50 for the entire process.
>
> That alone paid for about 20 years of product.
>


Precisely, leave the emotions out of the decision making and TT is still
a good product.

And despite the fact that $50 is $50 ;~), it is a no brainier to guard
against future headaches. It is just something that I don't want to
have to worry about should I get audited.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 11:23 AM

On 12/29/2015 2:10 PM, John McCoy wrote:
> [email protected] wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I gave up on Turbo some years ago when they did some really stupid
>> things. I've been using what's now called H&R Block Tax for several
>> years. Best deal so far is this link at newegg.com
>
> I do mine in Excel using this spreadsheet:
>
> http://www.excel1040.com/
>
> I compared the results with TurboTax once years ago, and they
> came out the same, and doing it in Excel was quicker...
>
> John
>


Does Excel submit your filings or fill out your forms?

And I see from the link that this is mostly a double check to the forms
that you have to fill out anyway.

From their web site,

As always, carefully check all spreadsheet results against
the results you obtained after using the actual IRS forms and instructions.

FWIW TurboTax does the double checking automatically and with out having
to run a separate program for verification.

Using Excel sounds like double work to me... but that is just me. ;~)

Sk

Swingman

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

29/12/2015 11:18 AM

On 12/29/2015 10:28 AM, Ivan Vegvary wrote:
> Don't understand this worry about spam. I use Gmail (6 years) and every bit of spam goes into my "promotional" folder. Maybe one in a thousand sneaks into my "primary" folder. I ignore the promo folder except when I need to look at a Harbor Freight ad.

I use both yahoo and gmail and, compared to ten years ago when it was
nothing to see 200 spams a day when running my own mail server, I get
virtually no spam.



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Swingman

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

29/12/2015 9:33 AM

On 12/28/2015 11:19 PM, Leon wrote:

> So far Turbo Tax works for me so no need to change a 25+ year tradition.
> It's what I know.

Ditto ... as much as I despise Intuit's business model, I've had good
luck so far with TurboTax the past twenty years. Buy their audit
insurance each year, had to use it once a few years back, One of their
lawyers represented me for a total of less than $50 for the entire process.

That alone paid for about 20 years of product.

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Larry Kraus

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 9:58 PM

On 12/30/2015 8:05 PM, Bill wrote:
> Leon wrote:
>>
>> More than likely H&R gives the discount only if you provide your
>> e-mail address so that "they" can contact you about future purchases.
>> They probably would not let anyone else have your information if they
>> say that they would not share or sell it. Most likely you could opt
>> out from their e-mails in the future.
>
> Newegg is the seller, and I am already on their list. But I "got the
> gut feeling" that an email address entered in the indicated box was
> going to be sold in a mass-marketing way, by whom I don't know, to
> recover the $7.50. I could be wrong, but the fact that the email address
> was a non-negotiable part of the deal made me back away. IMO, they don't
> require my email address to sell me tax software. The amount of Spam you
> get for $7.50 is probably a lot!

I have used products from Intuit, H&R BLock, and Newegg. They all had
my email address, all have sent ads, all stopped immediately when I
scrolled to the bottom of the email and hit "unsubscribe". No reason to
think any of them sold my email address.

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 11:45 AM

On 12/30/2015 11:27 AM, dpb wrote:
> On 12/30/2015 11:23 AM, Leon wrote:
> ...
>
>> Using Excel sounds like double work to me... but that is just me. ;~)
>
> Using Excel for virtually anything is almost always double work... :)
>
> --
>

LOL No kidding! so I still use Lotus 123 instead. ;~)

But seriously "some times" a spread sheet is easier than creating a
report in another program.

I pay the combined cell phone bill which includes our land line and at
one time the internet and TV, for my wife's, son's, sister's, my, and
once upon a time my dad's cell phones. They each reimburse me quarterly
and not all of the shared portions of the bill are equal. and don't get
me started on the separate taxes and fees on each.

The spread sheet makes those calculations as to who owes what much
simplifier for me.

JM

John McCoy

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

29/12/2015 8:10 PM

[email protected] wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> I gave up on Turbo some years ago when they did some really stupid
> things. I've been using what's now called H&R Block Tax for several
> years. Best deal so far is this link at newegg.com

I do mine in Excel using this spreadsheet:

http://www.excel1040.com/

I compared the results with TurboTax once years ago, and they
came out the same, and doing it in Excel was quicker...

John

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 11:18 AM

On 12/29/2015 1:23 PM, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In rec.woodworking, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>>> Last year there was quite the fluff over TT2014 dropping schedule C from
>>> all but the Home and Business versions.
>> I gave up on Turbo some years ago when they did some really stupid
>> things. I've been using what's now called H&R Block Tax for several
>
> I gave up on Turbotax when they did that 2003 bad-idea copy protection
> thing. I used Taxcut (now H&R) for several years, but last year switched
> to Taxact, since Taxact had added support for filing 1041s for trusts.[*]
>
> Turbotax can only do that at the $150 "Business" edition level. I don't
> think H&R's software does 1041s at all. I don't remember exactly what
> it cost with Taxact, but it was around $75, as two or three payments and
> downloads. Taxact does not have the same novice friendly interface, but
> it worked very well and I found the customer support phone line helpful.
>
> I contintue to dislike Intuit since they spend so much money lobbying
> against simplifying tax filings. And in addition to direct lobbying they
> hire shills to write bogus op-ed pieces to raise opposition to things
> like free online filing.


You might be surprised to see the list of who all actually lobbies
against simplifying tax filings. I strongly suspect that Intuit is not
the only one. Hell The IRS does not want to simplify it as it would put
them out of business. The federal government could simply do as Texas
and a few other states do and collect their taxes on sales and not
income. That would be very simple. IMHO the government should be
funded based on performance not as a right to entitlement.

a

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

29/12/2015 12:13 AM

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:08:13 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:

>Last year there was quite the fluff over TT2014 dropping schedule C from
>all but the Home and Business versions.
>
>That has changed to the way it used to be. Sorta. I use to use the
>Basic and get Schedule C. apparently Basic is no longer available
>except for free and Free does not include Schedule C, I THINK.
>
>Anyway Deluxe 2015 apparently once again has all the forms we used to
>get in prior to last year.
>
>http://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/uncategorized/turbotax-restores-popular-forms-to-desktop-software-2-20330/
>
>
>Deluxe 2015 At amazon for $30.
>
>http://www.amazon.com/TurboTax-Deluxe-Federal-Preparation-Software/dp/B01617VNBK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451340263&sr=8-2&keywords=turbotax+deluxe+2015

I gave up on Turbo some years ago when they did some really stupid
things. I've been using what's now called H&R Block Tax for several
years. Best deal so far is this link at newegg.com


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=8405351&SID=35197b16adea11e5a926da716ee9e25f0INT&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16832732058&cm_sp=

and this code for HALF PRICE: EMCKNNW23

The Deluxe + State download version with free Federal E-file is $22.50
after the discount.

Et

Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

29/12/2015 7:23 PM

In rec.woodworking, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet> wrote:
>> Last year there was quite the fluff over TT2014 dropping schedule C from
>> all but the Home and Business versions.
> I gave up on Turbo some years ago when they did some really stupid
> things. I've been using what's now called H&R Block Tax for several

I gave up on Turbotax when they did that 2003 bad-idea copy protection
thing. I used Taxcut (now H&R) for several years, but last year switched
to Taxact, since Taxact had added support for filing 1041s for trusts.[*]

Turbotax can only do that at the $150 "Business" edition level. I don't
think H&R's software does 1041s at all. I don't remember exactly what
it cost with Taxact, but it was around $75, as two or three payments and
downloads. Taxact does not have the same novice friendly interface, but
it worked very well and I found the customer support phone line helpful.

I contintue to dislike Intuit since they spend so much money lobbying
against simplifying tax filings. And in addition to direct lobbying they
hire shills to write bogus op-ed pieces to raise opposition to things
like free online filing.

Elijah
------
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EP

Ed Pawlowski

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

29/12/2015 6:21 AM

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:19:21 -0600, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:



>>
>So far Turbo Tax works for me so no need to change a 25+ year tradition.
>It's what I know.

Worth a few bucks just to not have to enter the basic information
every year, just log in and go.

BB

Bill

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

29/12/2015 12:30 AM

[email protected] wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 16:08:13 -0600, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
> wrote:
>
>> Last year there was quite the fluff over TT2014 dropping schedule C from
>> all but the Home and Business versions.
>>
>> That has changed to the way it used to be. Sorta. I use to use the
>> Basic and get Schedule C. apparently Basic is no longer available
>> except for free and Free does not include Schedule C, I THINK.
>>
>> Anyway Deluxe 2015 apparently once again has all the forms we used to
>> get in prior to last year.
>>
>> http://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/uncategorized/turbotax-restores-popular-forms-to-desktop-software-2-20330/
>>
>>
>> Deluxe 2015 At amazon for $30.
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/TurboTax-Deluxe-Federal-Preparation-Software/dp/B01617VNBK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451340263&sr=8-2&keywords=turbotax+deluxe+2015
> I gave up on Turbo some years ago when they did some really stupid
> things. I've been using what's now called H&R Block Tax for several
> years. Best deal so far is this link at newegg.com
>
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=8405351&SID=35197b16adea11e5a926da716ee9e25f0INT&AID=10440897&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-cables-_-na-_-na&Item=N82E16832732058&cm_sp=
>
> and this code for HALF PRICE: EMCKNNW23
>
> The Deluxe + State download version with free Federal E-file is $22.50
> after the discount.
>

It's "interesting" that they Require an email address to get the
discount (basically saving $7.50), and they disclose that they "will"
add you to their email list if you make a purchase. I was going to
order (just now), but I decided it wasn't worth $7.50 to be spammed all
year (by who knows who...). By the way, this version does not include
the "10% bonus" (on increments of $100 from your federal tax return)
which you can find from other sellers of the product. I found Intuit's
conduct so poor last year however, that I switched to H&RB's product,
and I intend to use it again this year. It won't cost me more than
$29.99 though because they sent me a coupon for that price in the mail.
It's also currently $29.99 at Amazon.com, at least it has been recently,
and that version includes the 10% bonus.

Bill

dn

dpb

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 11:27 AM

On 12/30/2015 11:23 AM, Leon wrote:
...

> Using Excel sounds like double work to me... but that is just me. ;~)

Using Excel for virtually anything is almost always double work... :)

--

BB

Bill

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 8:05 PM

Leon wrote:
>
> More than likely H&R gives the discount only if you provide your
> e-mail address so that "they" can contact you about future purchases.
> They probably would not let anyone else have your information if they
> say that they would not share or sell it. Most likely you could opt
> out from their e-mails in the future.

Newegg is the seller, and I am already on their list. But I "got the
gut feeling" that an email address entered in the indicated box was
going to be sold in a mass-marketing way, by whom I don't know, to
recover the $7.50. I could be wrong, but the fact that the email address
was a non-negotiable part of the deal made me back away. IMO, they don't
require my email address to sell me tax software. The amount of Spam you
get for $7.50 is probably a lot!

BB

Bill

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 10:03 PM

Larry Kraus wrote:
> On 12/30/2015 8:05 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Leon wrote:
>>>
>>> More than likely H&R gives the discount only if you provide your
>>> e-mail address so that "they" can contact you about future purchases.
>>> They probably would not let anyone else have your information if they
>>> say that they would not share or sell it. Most likely you could opt
>>> out from their e-mails in the future.
>>
>> Newegg is the seller, and I am already on their list. But I "got the
>> gut feeling" that an email address entered in the indicated box was
>> going to be sold in a mass-marketing way, by whom I don't know, to
>> recover the $7.50. I could be wrong, but the fact that the email address
>> was a non-negotiable part of the deal made me back away. IMO, they don't
>> require my email address to sell me tax software. The amount of Spam you
>> get for $7.50 is probably a lot!
>
> I have used products from Intuit, H&R BLock, and Newegg. They all had
> my email address, all have sent ads, all stopped immediately when I
> scrolled to the bottom of the email and hit "unsubscribe". No reason
> to think any of them sold my email address.
>
I wasn't concerned about the software makers. I was concerned about
their marketers (who sell more than just tax software). Look at
Facebook, there is a market for your privacy.

BB

Bill

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

02/01/2016 6:41 AM

In case anyone is interested, Amazon has H&RB's tax software product
("Deluxe", w/added 10% bonus), for $21.95. The only caveat is you need
to bump the order to $35 to get free shipping. For some reason, the
downloaded version is not currently available. I don't mind the CD.

Bill

Ll

Leon

in reply to Leon on 28/12/2015 4:08 PM

30/12/2015 11:04 AM

On 12/29/2015 5:21 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:19:21 -0600, Leon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>
>> So far Turbo Tax works for me so no need to change a 25+ year tradition.
>> It's what I know.
>
> Worth a few bucks just to not have to enter the basic information
> every year, just log in and go.
>


Yeah! and I really do not enjoy learning a new program for the sake of
doing so.


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