My first inclination is, except for a drill driver, to use corded tools bec=
ause I like having good power all the time. But maybe for this tool I shoul=
d re-think that. I'm going to use it for now to cut OSB for a flooring proj=
ect and then later I expect to break down plywood sheets. Does anyone have =
thoughts on this?=20
Thanks!
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 14:00:37 -0700 (PDT), "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>
>> Food for thought. I have never worn out a battery operated tool however
>> the batteries have all given out eventually and the replacements are
>> often not available.
>
>I have a cordless drill from 1993. Bosch 12 volt. Its batteries died ten or so years ago. I easily found a place on the internet that rebuilt the batteries. Fairly cheap price too. Like $50-60 total for two batteries. So your fear of not being able to find replacement batteries is completely false. As long as you don't completely lose the batteries, you can easily get them rebuilt as good as new.
From '93, they must be NiCd batteries. I found NiCd to be nothing but
frustration. Whenever I needed the tool, the batteries were dead.
I've rebuilt many batteries and none lasted more than a year, maybe
two. Li-Ion is a real game-changer. In ten years, I've only had a
couple of batteries fail (out of 20ish).
On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 10:57:54 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:
> My first inclination is, except for a drill driver, to use corded tools b=
ecause I like having good power all the time. But maybe for this tool I sho=
uld re-think that. I'm going to use it for now to cut OSB for a flooring pr=
oject and then later I expect to break down plywood sheets. Does anyone hav=
e thoughts on this?=20
>=20
> Thanks!
I have thoughts. On the Festool website they talk about track saws a lot. =
With Festool they rave about the power of the smaller blade Cordless saw. =
And complain about the little power of the corded small Festool track saw.=
So with Festool it seems the cordless small 6" track saw is the choice. =
The big Festool track saw is only corded so its not in consideration here. =
I have the corded Festool track saw and find it works just fine. I don't =
cut really thick stuff so don't know how well it does cutting 8/4 or 12/4 d=
ense hardwood. But ripping 3/4" plywood or 4/4 hardwood, it does just fine=
. For construction type work I think cordless would be beneficial. And in=
general not having a cord would be good. But for general cutting inside a=
workshop or garage or around the house/yard, I think corded is just fine. =
No need to go cordless, especially since I think cordless is more expensiv=
e.
Concerning the power comparison between Festool corded and cordless track s=
aws, I do not know if this same thing applies for Makita, DeWalt, or anyone=
else making both corded and cordless track saws. Maybe only Festool makes=
the corded track saw weaker and the cordless stronger. Others may have mo=
re powerful corded saws. Who knows.
On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 10/4/2019 10:57 PM, Michael wrote:
> > My first inclination is, except for a drill driver, to use corded tools=
because I like having good power all the time. But maybe for this tool I s=
hould re-think that. I'm going to use it for now to cut OSB for a flooring =
project and then later I expect to break down plywood sheets. Does anyone h=
ave thoughts on this?
> >=20
> > Thanks!
> >=20
>=20
> The only electric tool in my shop with out a tail is a drill.
>=20
> Food for thought. I have never worn out a battery operated tool however=
=20
> the batteries have all given out eventually and the replacements are=20
> often not available.
>=20
> Corded tools do not have this issue.
>=20
> If you think you will actually use the track saw enough to wear the tool=
=20
> out, not the battery, and have no issue with waiting for a battery to=20
> recharge in the middle of a project, go cordless.
>=20
> Or if you need to use the tool where 120 volt is not available,,,,
I'm with you Leon. I woke up this morning and decided I've always used cord=
s and that's just how I work.=20
Appreciate the input from others!
On 10/4/2019 10:57 PM, Michael wrote:
> My first inclination is, except for a drill driver, to use corded tools because I like having good power all the time. But maybe for this tool I should re-think that. I'm going to use it for now to cut OSB for a flooring project and then later I expect to break down plywood sheets. Does anyone have thoughts on this?
>
> Thanks!
>
The only electric tool in my shop with out a tail is a drill.
Food for thought. I have never worn out a battery operated tool however
the batteries have all given out eventually and the replacements are
often not available.
Corded tools do not have this issue.
If you think you will actually use the track saw enough to wear the tool
out, not the battery, and have no issue with waiting for a battery to
recharge in the middle of a project, go cordless.
Or if you need to use the tool where 120 volt is not available,,,,
On Sun, 06 Oct 2019 03:42:07 GMT, Puckdropper <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Michael wrote:
>
>> My first inclination is, except for a drill driver, to use corded tools because I like having good power all the time. But maybe for this tool I should re-think that. I'm going to use it for now to cut OSB for a flooring project and then later I expect to break down plywood sheets. Does anyone have thoughts on this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>
>For a project like yours, I doubt you'll drain a battery before a second
>one charges. I'm a big fan of Makita, and can tell you the charger
>I have charges batteries pretty quick. An hour and it's ready.
+1
I've never had to wait for a battery to charge. I prefer Bosch,
though I have a couple of DeWalt (older tools - newer batteries),
Ryobi (weird tools that don't have a Bosch counterpart), and Festool.
I had the old stick-type Makita drills and found the batteries to be
nothing but a PITA, though in reality it was the technology not the
brand. I have Bosch 12V batteries that are 10 years old.
On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> Food for thought. I have never worn out a battery operated tool however=
=20
> the batteries have all given out eventually and the replacements are=20
> often not available.
>=20
I have a cordless drill from 1993. Bosch 12 volt. Its batteries died ten =
or so years ago. I easily found a place on the internet that rebuilt the b=
atteries. Fairly cheap price too. Like $50-60 total for two batteries. S=
o your fear of not being able to find replacement batteries is completely f=
alse. As long as you don't completely lose the batteries, you can easily g=
et them rebuilt as good as new.
On 10/6/2019 4:00 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>
>> Food for thought. I have never worn out a battery operated tool however
>> the batteries have all given out eventually and the replacements are
>> often not available.
>>
>
> I have a cordless drill from 1993. Bosch 12 volt. Its batteries died ten or so years ago. I easily found a place on the internet that rebuilt the batteries. Fairly cheap price too. Like $50-60 total for two batteries. So your fear of not being able to find replacement batteries is completely false. As long as you don't completely lose the batteries, you can easily get them rebuilt as good as new.
>
Actually when I had old technology batteries it was relatively easy to
have the batteries replaced/rebuilt.
The thing you can not do these days with modern Lithium Ion batteries is
find a rebuilder that will rebuild these type batteries.
Since the Op is talking about a NEW track saw it is highly unlikely to
find a decent on with the old battery technology.
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 19:21:04 -0500, dpb <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 10/7/2019 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
>...
>
>> The thing you can not do these days with modern Lithium Ion batteries is
>> find a rebuilder that will rebuild these type batteries.
>...
>
>There are a few that will...the harder part is figuring out how to get
>them shipped thru the DOT HAZMAT maze...or even if the particular pack
>is/is not.
Just take it to UPS and tell them that it's a lithium ion battery
pack.
Michael wrote:
> My first inclination is, except for a drill driver, to use corded tools because I like having good power all the time. But maybe for this tool I should re-think that. I'm going to use it for now to cut OSB for a flooring project and then later I expect to break down plywood sheets. Does anyone have thoughts on this?
>
> Thanks!
For a project like yours, I doubt you'll drain a battery before a second
one charges. I'm a big fan of Makita, and can tell you the charger
I have charges batteries pretty quick. An hour and it's ready.
Puckdropper
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On 10/4/2019 10:57 PM, Michael wrote:
> My first inclination is, except for a drill driver, to use corded
> tools because I like having good power all the time. But maybe for this
> tool I should re-think that. I'm going to use it for now to cut OSB for
> a flooring project and then later I expect to break down plywood sheets.
> Does anyone have thoughts on this?
I don't know if even make a track version, but I've been extremely
impressed with the DeWalt cordless saw the contractors (both general for
framing, etc., and the hardwood flooring installer for repair) had.
I "borrowed" one over a weekend the flooring installer left and other
than the safety interlock on the switch that I couldn't reach easily (I
do have small hands that I would have to bypass to use as own) and found
it as good as it appeared watching.
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On 10/4/19 10:57 PM, Michael wrote:
> My first inclination is, except for a drill driver, to use corded
> tools because I like having good power all the time. But maybe for
> this tool I should re-think that. I'm going to use it for now to cut
> OSB for a flooring project and then later I expect to break down
> plywood sheets. Does anyone have thoughts on this?
>
> Thanks!
>
I bought the Makita cordless track saw a few months ago and it's
incredible.
I would never go back to corded.
The DC brush-less motors are so efficient and smooth.
Corded AC saws always feel like you're a second from losing control.
All that torque on startup and the feeling a huge amount of power in
your hand.
The DC brush-less motors are totally opposite. Very smooth on start-up
and when running. They feel like they are hardly working but still cut
very fast.
I actually bought another cordless Makita circular saw for regular
framing type cutting.
The 5ah batteries last a really long time and charging is fast.
I will never go back to corded.
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On 10/7/2019 12:53 PM, Leon wrote:
...
> The thing you can not do these days with modern Lithium Ion batteries is
> find a rebuilder that will rebuild these type batteries.
...
There are a few that will...the harder part is figuring out how to get
them shipped thru the DOT HAZMAT maze...or even if the particular pack
is/is not.
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