Any guitar builders on here? I noticed the
brown paper information, this has nothing
to do with that exactly but..
I was reading about Martin Guitars HPL
material they use on the lower priced guitars.
and thats exactly what it is Brown Paper!
I found it Amazing. Its Actually Formica.
I guess they layer it and glue it, press it under
high pressure, until its stiff like wood, then make the guitar bodies.
They sound ok.
I thought it was interesting, I like guitars.
Bill wrote:
> I recognize a lot of the songs on their albums. I learned them under
> the
> guise of 'folk music from Missouri'. The late John Hartford is my
> favorite celebrator of that music.
-----------------------------------------
Are you referring to John Huntington Hartford who spent some time with
the Kingston Trio after Dave Gard died, then left and became a
Missississi River boat captain?
Lew
On 2010-11-07 21:55:39 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> said:
> I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
> are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
> of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
> instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
> built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
> psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
> psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books
> on instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building
> something with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the
> ears. ; )
If you stop at Tamarack on the West Virginia Turnpike, you'll find a
couple who are Artists-in-Residence -- they build psaltries, both bowed
and plucked. You'll also find some goregeous furniture built by Probst
Furniture Makers (http://www.probstfurniture.com). And if you've a mind
to spend some more money, there's a near-boundless selection of the
turners' art.
In article <[email protected]>,
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
> build something else with strings, besides a kite! ;)
I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
"not of this world" sound.
In article <[email protected]>,
Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
> I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
> are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
> of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
> instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
> built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
> psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
> psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books
> on instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building
> something with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the
> ears. ; )
Nice thing is the absense of complex curves :-)
http://www.apsimplepsaltery.com/
On Nov 7, 12:25=A0pm, [email protected] (father M) wrote:
> Any guitar builders on here? I noticed the
> brown paper information, this has nothing
> to do with that exactly but..
> I was reading about Martin Guitars HPL
> material they use on the lower priced guitars.
> and thats exactly what it is Brown Paper!
> I found it Amazing. Its Actually Formica.
> I guess they layer it and glue it, press it under
> high pressure, until its stiff like wood, then make the guitar bodies.
> They sound ok.
> I thought it was interesting, I like guitars.
Have fun repairing it if it chips or cracks. For $720, I
want wood, not formica. Nothing against formica, per se,
but $100 would be closer to a realistic price.
On 11/7/2010 10:11 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> I recognize a lot of the songs on their albums. I learned them under
>> the
>> guise of 'folk music from Missouri'. The late John Hartford is my
>> favorite celebrator of that music.
> -----------------------------------------
> Are you referring to John Huntington Hartford who spent some time with
> the Kingston Trio after Dave Gard died, then left and became a
> Missississi River boat captain?
IIRC, John's middle name was Cowan.
Although I know him also, I always wondered if there wasn't somehow a
mystical connection with John Cowan who played bass and sang with New
Grass Revival.
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On 11/7/2010 9:48 PM, Bill wrote:
> Swingman wrote:
>> On 11/7/2010 8:55 PM, Bill wrote:
>>> Stuart wrote:
>>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>>> Bill<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
>>>>> build something else with strings, besides a kite! ;)
>>>>
>>>> I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
>>>> don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
>>>> "not of this world" sound.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
>>> are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
>>> of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
>>> instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
>>> built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
>>> psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
>>> psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books on
>>> instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building something
>>> with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the ears. ; )
>>
>> You want the best in mountain dulcimers look no further than below, they
>> don't come any better than Lloyd Frank Wright, or his mother, Margaret,
>> matriarch of the "The Wright Family" ... lloyd was two time mountain
>> dulcimer champion and one of the best in the world. I had the group in
>> the studio on a number of their albums, as well as two of Lloyds. Here's
>> the family web site:
>>
>> http://www.jerrywrightfamily.com/index.htm
>>
>
> I recognize a lot of the songs on their albums. I learned them under the
> guise of 'folk music from Missouri'. The late John Hartford is my
> favorite celebrator of that music. 'Hamilton Ironworks" is an album of
> his I really like. Others, where he is being a little too whacky for my
> tastes, I don't prefer. So don't make up your mind on one song. Though
> he did write the song Gentle On My Mind, made famous by Glen Cambell.
> Everyone is probably familiar with that one, though maybe not it's source.
My favorite is "Steam Powered Areo Plane", one of the staples of banjo
players back in my bluegrass banjo days. I worked with John many years
ago. One of the nicest guys in the music business in those days. Was
saddened to see him pass away.
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On 11/7/2010 11:25 AM, father M wrote:
> Any guitar builders on here? I noticed the
> brown paper information, this has nothing
> to do with that exactly but..
> I was reading about Martin Guitars HPL
> material they use on the lower priced guitars.
> and thats exactly what it is Brown Paper!
> I found it Amazing. Its Actually Formica.
> I guess they layer it and glue it, press it under
> high pressure, until its stiff like wood, then make the guitar bodies.
> They sound ok.
> I thought it was interesting, I like guitars.
Funny you should mention that .. I was just heard my wife in the next
room on her cell phone, and she is apparently waking out the door as I
type this, on the way to Guitar Center buy three of those Martins for
some of her students.
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On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:45:07 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>Lew Hodgett wrote:
>> Bill wrote:
>>> I recognize a lot of the songs on their albums. I learned them under
>>> the
>>> guise of 'folk music from Missouri'. The late John Hartford is my
>>> favorite celebrator of that music.
>> -----------------------------------------
>> Are you referring to John Huntington Hartford who spent some time with
>> the Kingston Trio after Dave Gard died, then left and became a
>> Missississi River boat captain?
>>
>> Lew
>>
>>
>
>
>Gee, I suspected I was probably the only one here who lauded this
>person and now it appears I am at least 3rd down the list. Remarkable
>coincidence.
>
>Bill
I didn't realize he was obscure!
He was a regular guest on many TV shows in the 1960's and early 70's.
Smothers Brothers, Glenn Campbell, Hee Waw, Mac Davis, etc.
On 11/7/2010 4:06 PM, Stuart wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> Bill<[email protected]> wrote:
>> FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
>> build something else with strings, besides a kite! ;)
>
> I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
> don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
> "not of this world" sound.
I recorded quite a few 'Early Music" ensembles in the past that used
them extensively ... it is indeed an eerie sound. Here's one of those
albums ... this group used the instrument quite a bit if you're looking
for other recordings of the sound:
http://www.folkharp.com/product/chevrefoil-cd
FWIW, this particular album was also sent into space on a NASA shuttle,
IIRC. ;)
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father M wrote:
> Any guitar builders on here? I noticed the
> brown paper information, this has nothing
> to do with that exactly but..
> I was reading about Martin Guitars HPL
> material they use on the lower priced guitars.
> and thats exactly what it is Brown Paper!
> I found it Amazing. Its Actually Formica.
> I guess they layer it and glue it, press it under
> high pressure, until its stiff like wood, then make the guitar bodies.
> They sound ok.
> I thought it was interesting, I like guitars.
>
FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
build something else with strings, besides a kite! ;)
Bill
Stuart wrote:
> In article<[email protected]>,
> Bill<[email protected]> wrote:
>> FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
>> build something else with strings, besides a kite! ;)
>
> I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
> don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
> "not of this world" sound.
>
I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books
on instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building
something with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the
ears. ; )
Bill
Swingman wrote:
> On 11/7/2010 8:55 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Stuart wrote:
>>> In article<[email protected]>,
>>> Bill<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
>>>> build something else with strings, besides a kite! ;)
>>>
>>> I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
>>> don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
>>> "not of this world" sound.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
>> are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
>> of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
>> instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
>> built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
>> psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
>> psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books on
>> instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building something
>> with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the ears. ; )
>
> You want the best in mountain dulcimers look no further than below, they
> don't come any better than Lloyd Frank Wright, or his mother, Margaret,
> matriarch of the "The Wright Family" ... lloyd was two time mountain
> dulcimer champion and one of the best in the world. I had the group in
> the studio on a number of their albums, as well as two of Lloyds. Here's
> the family web site:
>
> http://www.jerrywrightfamily.com/index.htm
>
I recognize a lot of the songs on their albums. I learned them under the
guise of 'folk music from Missouri'. The late John Hartford is my
favorite celebrator of that music. 'Hamilton Ironworks" is an album of
his I really like. Others, where he is being a little too whacky for my
tastes, I don't prefer. So don't make up your mind on one song. Though
he did write the song Gentle On My Mind, made famous by Glen Cambell.
Everyone is probably familiar with that one, though maybe not it's source.
Bill
Lew Hodgett wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> I recognize a lot of the songs on their albums. I learned them under
>> the
>> guise of 'folk music from Missouri'. The late John Hartford is my
>> favorite celebrator of that music.
> -----------------------------------------
> Are you referring to John Huntington Hartford who spent some time with
> the Kingston Trio after Dave Gard died, then left and became a
> Missississi River boat captain?
>
> Lew
>
>
Gee, I suspected I was probably the only one here who lauded this
person and now it appears I am at least 3rd down the list. Remarkable
coincidence.
Bill
[email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:45:07 -0500, Bill <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Lew Hodgett wrote:
>>> Bill wrote:
>>>> I recognize a lot of the songs on their albums. I learned them under
>>>> the
>>>> guise of 'folk music from Missouri'. The late John Hartford is my
>>>> favorite celebrator of that music.
>>> -----------------------------------------
>>> Are you referring to John Huntington Hartford who spent some time with
>>> the Kingston Trio after Dave Gard died, then left and became a
>>> Missississi River boat captain?
>>>
>>> Lew
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Gee, I suspected I was probably the only one here who lauded this
>> person and now it appears I am at least 3rd down the list. Remarkable
>> coincidence.
>>
>> Bill
>
> I didn't realize he was obscure!
>
> He was a regular guest on many TV shows in the 1960's and early 70's.
> Smothers Brothers, Glenn Campbell, Hee Waw, Mac Davis, etc.
Nor I...and he was almost always at John Rice Irwin's fall "Tennessee
Homecoming" at Norris (north of Clinton) for the 25+ years we were in
the area...along w/
<http://www.museumofappalachia.org/Museum_of_Appalachia_History.htm>
Archie Campbell used to be there until his health started failing often,
too, along w/ a bunch of the others from the area...
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On 11/7/2010 8:55 PM, Bill wrote:
> Stuart wrote:
>> In article<[email protected]>,
>> Bill<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> FWIW, I like guitars..and banjos and fiddles. Someday I'll probably
>>> build something else with strings, besides a kite! ;)
>>
>> I always fancied having a go at a bowed psaltery. I've seen kits, they
>> don't look too dificult to make or play. I've heard one, its an almost
>> "not of this world" sound.
>>
>
>
> I haven't seen many of those in my musical circles. The closest things
> are "mountain dulcimers", which may be a little easier to build because
> of the absence of the bow. I thought one of those might be my first
> instrument. Technically, it would be my second instrument as I already
> built my wife a washtub bass. When I was at youtube listening to bowed
> psaltery, I noticed a number of examples were duets between bowed
> psaltery and mountain dulcimer, so there ya go. I've read a few books on
> instrument building but I'm going to try my hand at building something
> with a drawer before I try that! I'm still wet behind the ears. ; )
You want the best in mountain dulcimers look no further than below, they
don't come any better than Lloyd Frank Wright, or his mother, Margaret,
matriarch of the "The Wright Family" ... lloyd was two time mountain
dulcimer champion and one of the best in the world. I had the group in
the studio on a number of their albums, as well as two of Lloyds. Here's
the family web site:
http://www.jerrywrightfamily.com/index.htm
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