Need a Boat?

Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 9:25am (EST-3) [email protected] doth state:
Even more surprising, no pucky ducks!

Well, if it'll make you happy.
http://www.marquisauctions.com/nickelplatedduckbanklot61A.JPG



JOAT
I am, therefore I think.

Sat, Dec 16, 2006, 5:43pm (EST+5) [email protected] (steamer) doth
sayeth:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0--Oh yeah I met him at
the Makers Faire. Most of what he's done is assembled stuff that's
available on the market but he's definitely got imagination! ;-)

I don't think that takes a thing away from his work. The guy is
"good." Now I'm trying to figure how to put legs on a boat, to make
loading and unloading from the trailer easier.



JOAT
Chubby had not demanded much out of life, and had got it.

Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 10:07am leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net That is
wildly creative stuff there. He is having too much fun!
What I wondered about this is what catagory would you put somebody like
this into? Putting steam engines into things is obviously a throwback of
some kind. But putting them into radio controlled walkers, tanks and
rovers?? Reminds me of some of that old, traditional jules verne style
science fiction.

Well, actually steam is still alive, and doing quite well. Besides
bing how your popcorn pops that is. Nuclear subs and ships are powered
by glorified steam engines. A lot of plants use steam, and have found
that instead of venting wast steam into the air, run it thru a steam
engine first, and no fule cost power. I don't know if they're still
doing it, but just a few years back China was still making one or two
steam locomotive per day - huge coal reserves I understand. And, I
understand a large percentage of the world's freighters are still steam
powered.

Steam is a lot of fun too, you can make a steam engine with just
basic tools, and have it run, even if it's inefficient. Try making even
a one cylinder internal combustion engine without a lot of high priced
machinery. A lot's been said about steam boilers blowing up, and how
dangerous they are. Steam boilers are pressure vessels, and yes, can
explode. However, that's caused by poor, or no, maintenance; improper
construction; excessive pressure, etc. Use a monotube boiler, and no
such prob; a monotube boiler is a coil of tubing that water is pumped
thru and heated as it goes thru, so steam comes out the other end.
Model steam monotube boilers, made from copper tuving, have been
observed at up to 3,000 lbs steam pressure, without blowing. And, if
they do, it just pops a hole in the tubing, releasing all the steam, no
explsion.

Unfortunatly, in my view, most of the hobby steam stuff seems
directed toward locomotives. Me, I'm more interested in steam boats,
and steam bikes.



JOAT
I am, therefore I think.

J T <[email protected]> wrote:
> Unfortunatly, in my view, most of the hobby steam stuff seems
>directed toward locomotives. Me, I'm more interested in steam boats,
>and steam bikes.
--Hey let's talk! I've got a steamboat and I've got a pal with a
steam bike! :-) Next year's project: a MIDI calliope, bwahaha!



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Hacking the Trailing Edge! : is precision flatulence...
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Sat, Dec 16, 2006, 5:46pm (EST+5) [email protected] (steamer) doth
sayeth:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0--Hey let's talk! I've
got a steamboat and I've got a pal with a steam bike! :-) Next year's
project: a MIDI calliope, bwahaha!

My e-mail is valid. I'm finally getting to the point where I'll be
in a position to start building a boat - hopefully. And, a steam engine
for it. And maybe a steam bike. Been interested in steam for a lonnng
time. Got my copy of Seamboats and Modern Steam Launches in 1975, and
got interested years earlier than that. Got the design mostly figured
out, but probably went be finalized until I get the space to start work.
Already got the name for it tho, The Prid of Ankh-Morpork.



JOAT
Chubby had not demanded much out of life, and had got it.

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:51:31 -0500, J T wrote:

> Mon, Dec 11, 2006, 10:07am leemichaels*nadaspam*@comcast.net That is
> wildly creative stuff there. He is having too much fun!
> What I wondered about this is what catagory would you put somebody like
> this into? Putting steam engines into things is obviously a throwback of
> some kind. But putting them into radio controlled walkers, tanks and
> rovers?? Reminds me of some of that old, traditional jules verne style
> science fiction.
>
> Well, actually steam is still alive, and doing quite well. Besides
> bing how your popcorn pops that is. Nuclear subs and ships are powered
> by glorified steam engines. A lot of plants use steam, and have found
> that instead of venting wast steam into the air, run it thru a steam
> engine first, and no fule cost power. I don't know if they're still
> doing it, but just a few years back China was still making one or two
> steam locomotive per day - huge coal reserves I understand. And, I
> understand a large percentage of the world's freighters are still steam
> powered.
>
> Steam is a lot of fun too, you can make a steam engine with just
> basic tools, and have it run, even if it's inefficient. Try making even
> a one cylinder internal combustion engine without a lot of high priced
> machinery. A lot's been said about steam boilers blowing up, and how
> dangerous they are. Steam boilers are pressure vessels, and yes, can
> explode. However, that's caused by poor, or no, maintenance; improper
> construction; excessive pressure, etc. Use a monotube boiler, and no
> such prob; a monotube boiler is a coil of tubing that water is pumped
> thru and heated as it goes thru, so steam comes out the other end.
> Model steam monotube boilers, made from copper tuving, have been
> observed at up to 3,000 lbs steam pressure, without blowing. And, if
> they do, it just pops a hole in the tubing, releasing all the steam, no
> explsion.

No explosion but if part of your body is in the wrong place at the wrong
time a jet of 3000 PSI steam will take everything right down to the bone,
right quick. Imagine a totally invisible oxyacetylene flame with a bad
attitude.

Always treat live steam with respect, it can and will hurt you if you let
it. Exploding things is only one of the ways.

>
> Unfortunatly, in my view, most of the hobby steam stuff seems
> directed toward locomotives. Me, I'm more interested in steam boats,
> and steam bikes.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> I am, therefore I think.

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Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 2:30pm (EST+5) [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke)
doth sayeth:
No explosion but if part of your body is in the wrong place at the wrong
time a jet of 3000 PSI steam will take everything right down to the
bone, right quick. Imagine a totally invisible oxyacetylene flame with a
bad attitude. <snip>

Yes, quite true. However the tubing is meant to be in a insulated
case or jacket, which would not only contain the heat, but would contain
the jet of steam if the tubing blew. Just in case, I'd definitely not
be looking at the tubing while it's being heated. Actually, in
practice, I think there'd be more of a cloud of steam than a jet of
steam, the tubing usually peels for an inch or two. Regardless, I'd
definitely not want any part of my skin near it when if it let go.



JOAT
Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?

On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:42:23 -0500, J T wrote:

> Tue, Dec 12, 2006, 2:30pm (EST+5) [email protected] (J. Clarke)
> doth sayeth:
> No explosion but if part of your body is in the wrong place at the wrong
> time a jet of 3000 PSI steam will take everything right down to the
> bone, right quick. Imagine a totally invisible oxyacetylene flame with a
> bad attitude. <snip>
>
> Yes, quite true. However the tubing is meant to be in a insulated
> case or jacket, which would not only contain the heat, but would contain
> the jet of steam if the tubing blew. Just in case, I'd definitely not
> be looking at the tubing while it's being heated. Actually, in
> practice, I think there'd be more of a cloud of steam than a jet of
> steam, the tubing usually peels for an inch or two. Regardless, I'd
> definitely not want any part of my skin near it when if it let go.
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?

Totally irrelevant aside but isn't the Batmobile nuclear?

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Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 1:00am (EST+5) [email protected] (J.=A0Clarke)
doth query:
Totally irrelevant aside but isn't the Batmobile nuclear?

Dunno, I do know the latest movie version of the Batmobile has got
a 350 Chebby engine.. But, if it is supposed to be nuclear, is he
supposed to get his nuclear fuel?



JOAT
Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:02:28 -0500, J T wrote:

> Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 1:00am (EST+5) [email protected] (J. Clarke)
> doth query:
> Totally irrelevant aside but isn't the Batmobile nuclear?
>
> Dunno, I do know the latest movie version of the Batmobile has got
> a 350 Chebby engine.. But, if it is supposed to be nuclear, is he
> supposed to get his nuclear fuel?

Maybe it came fueled for 20 years?
>
>
>
> JOAT
> Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?

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Thu, Dec 14, 2006, 12:00pm (EST+5) From: [email protected]
(J.=A0Clarke)
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 02:02:28 -0500, J T wrote:
Wed, Dec 13, 2006, 1:00am (EST+5) [email protected]
(J.=C2=A0Clarke) doth query:
Totally irrelevant aside but isn't the Batmobile nuclear?
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Dunno, I do know the latest movie version
of the Batmobile has got a 350 Chebby engine.. But, if it is supposed to
be nuclear, is he supposed to get his nuclear fuel?
Maybe it came fueled for 20 years?

Maybe it's electric, and he jjut plugs it in to recharge. In which
case it could ultimately be steam powered - according to Modern Marvels,
on the History Channel, 50% of all electricity iin the United States s
generated using coal - which means steam turbines. Steam is alive and
well.



JOAT
Where does Batman buy gas for the Batmobile?