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"Locutus"

05/03/2006 11:08 PM

Scrap wood?

Currently rehabing a house (about 70 yrs old), and I just tore out the
cellar steps. The boards are oak and 2x8 (actual size) and about 40" long.
They are rough sawn. Over the years I have thrown many boards such as these
away, but since I am now starting to get into woodworking I am wondering if
these boards are worth saving?


This topic has 10 replies

DB

Dave Balderstone

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

05/03/2006 10:49 PM

In article <[email protected]>, Locutus
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I was also worried about them the being hard on blades since
> they are so old?

That's not a major concern, IMO. Lots of folks work with wood that is
tough on blades. Like charlie b said, evaluate the boards for grain and
decide if they're worth your time. If not, perhaps there's a high
school shop or local WW'rs club that might be interested?

--
Talking about art is like dancing about architecture - Frank Zappa

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

05/03/2006 8:16 PM

Locutus wrote:
> Currently rehabing a house (about 70 yrs old), and I just tore out the
> cellar steps. The boards are oak and 2x8 (actual size) and about 40" long.
> They are rough sawn. Over the years I have thrown many boards such as these
> away, but since I am now starting to get into woodworking I am wondering if
> these boards are worth saving?

You throw away clear (in stairs that old they were almost always clear)
oak 2x8s? Why?

The stuff is dry, stable and you'll still have plenty of size after you
clean it up. There are also usually few nails, and in known locations,
with stair treads - you won't be risking your blades and bits.

R

Rr

"RicodJour"

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

05/03/2006 8:54 PM

Locutus wrote:
> "RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> > Locutus wrote:
> >> Currently rehabing a house (about 70 yrs old), and I just tore out the
> >> cellar steps. The boards are oak and 2x8 (actual size) and about 40"
> >> long.
> >> They are rough sawn. Over the years I have thrown many boards such as
> >> these
> >> away, but since I am now starting to get into woodworking I am wondering
> >> if
> >> these boards are worth saving?
> >
> > You throw away clear (in stairs that old they were almost always clear)
> > oak 2x8s? Why?
> >
>
> In the past I have thrown boards such as these away because they are hard to
> work with (akward size (true 2x's), hard to cut, hard to get a nail/screw
> through)....

Well, if aged oak is too tough, there's always basswood. ;)

> > The stuff is dry, stable and you'll still have plenty of size after you
> > clean it up. There are also usually few nails, and in known locations,
> > with stair treads - you won't be risking your blades and bits.
> >
>
> Yes they are clear, just two nails at each end. However, I do not have
> access to a planer or jointer, though I do plan on buying these tools at
> some point, just not sure when. So in the meantime I would just have to
> store them. I was also worried about them the being hard on blades since
> they are so old?

Blades are resharpenable consumables. They're not supposed to last
forever. Don't go out of your way to abuse them, but don't fear wood.
You said the wood was rough sawn, but didn't mention if there's a
finish on them. If it's unfinished oak, and you know where the nails
were, there's little risk and a big upside.

A typical set of stairs has ~12 steps to the basement, maybe more - in
other words you have at least 50 board feet of oak. Go price that
against the price of a blade.

R

RN

"RayV"

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

06/03/2006 6:25 AM

You can get by without a planer or jointer. I found an old
oil-stained, dirt infested, paint-spilled shelf in my garage. The
board didn't look like pine so I took the belt sander to it.

Now it is a beautiful cherry hall table in my house.

MM

"Mike Marlow"

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

06/03/2006 8:12 AM


"Locutus" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

>
> In the past I have thrown boards such as these away because they are hard
to
> work with (akward size (true 2x's), hard to cut, hard to get a nail/screw
> through)....

That's the beauty of hardwood. It's hard.

>
> Yes they are clear, just two nails at each end. However, I do not have
> access to a planer or jointer, though I do plan on buying these tools at
> some point, just not sure when. So in the meantime I would just have to
> store them. I was also worried about them the being hard on blades since
> they are so old?
>
>

Go out and get a hand plane in the meantime. You'll be absolutely impressed
at what a few swipes with a good sharp plane will do to a scraggly old hunk
of wood.

--

-Mike-
[email protected]

cb

charlie b

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

05/03/2006 8:41 PM

Locutus wrote:
>
> Currently rehabing a house (about 70 yrs old), and I just tore out the
> cellar steps. The boards are oak and 2x8 (actual size) and about 40" long.
> They are rough sawn. Over the years I have thrown many boards such as these
> away, but since I am now starting to get into woodworking I am wondering if
> these boards are worth saving?

Hardwood that thick, even 40" long is worth at least checking out.
Sand or plane the undersides (the top will have ground in dirt, sand
and other stuff that'll dull the hell out of anything sharp) and dampen
with alcohol to see what the grain looks like. If any of them are
quarter
sawn definitely keep them. You can find someone with a drum sander
to clean up the grungy face if the other side looks promising.

charlie b

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"Locutus"

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

05/03/2006 11:44 PM


"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Locutus wrote:
>> Currently rehabing a house (about 70 yrs old), and I just tore out the
>> cellar steps. The boards are oak and 2x8 (actual size) and about 40"
>> long.
>> They are rough sawn. Over the years I have thrown many boards such as
>> these
>> away, but since I am now starting to get into woodworking I am wondering
>> if
>> these boards are worth saving?
>
> You throw away clear (in stairs that old they were almost always clear)
> oak 2x8s? Why?
>

In the past I have thrown boards such as these away because they are hard to
work with (akward size (true 2x's), hard to cut, hard to get a nail/screw
through)....

> The stuff is dry, stable and you'll still have plenty of size after you
> clean it up. There are also usually few nails, and in known locations,
> with stair treads - you won't be risking your blades and bits.
>

Yes they are clear, just two nails at each end. However, I do not have
access to a planer or jointer, though I do plan on buying these tools at
some point, just not sure when. So in the meantime I would just have to
store them. I was also worried about them the being hard on blades since
they are so old?

GG

"George"

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

06/03/2006 6:59 AM


"RicodJour" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> A typical set of stairs has ~12 steps to the basement, maybe more - in
> other words you have at least 50 board feet of oak. Go price that
> against the price of a blade.
>

Against a couple of blade sharpenings, perhaps more, given that there has
been 70 years of dirt ground into the porous oak by passing feet.

Then there are the 70 cycles that a wood already infamous for its brittle
and splintery nature has used to become more so.

Pn

Phisherman

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

06/03/2006 11:40 PM

On Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:08:47 -0500, "Locutus" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Currently rehabing a house (about 70 yrs old), and I just tore out the
>cellar steps. The boards are oak and 2x8 (actual size) and about 40" long.
>They are rough sawn. Over the years I have thrown many boards such as these
>away, but since I am now starting to get into woodworking I am wondering if
>these boards are worth saving?
>


Get a metal detector (Wizard Wand) to check for any stray nails before
you use the wood. Old wood that shows no decay is good.

As

Australopithecus scobis

in reply to "Locutus" on 05/03/2006 11:08 PM

06/03/2006 5:01 AM

On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:08:47 -0500, Locutus opined:

> Currently rehabing a house (about 70 yrs old), and I just tore out the
> cellar steps. The boards are oak and 2x8 (actual size) and about 40" long.
> They are rough sawn. Over the years I have thrown many boards such as these
> away, but since I am now starting to get into woodworking I am wondering if
> these boards are worth saving?

They are completely worthless. They are possibly toxic, too. Probably
full of noxious fungi. Send them to me and I'll dispose of them for
you, for free.

--
"Keep your ass behind you"
wreck20051219 at spambob.net


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