ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

19/03/2006 3:36 PM

Holy Shipping Rates, Batman!

A Grizzly G0555 bandsaw ships for $69.25 plus a $4.25 fuel surcharge.
Not bad at all for a 210 pound shipping weight.

Most of the comparable bandsaws on Amazon ship for $99. Again, not bad
when you consider the weight.

Okay, so I was checking out the Shopfox 14" bandsaw, which is
essentially a Grizzly G0555 but with cast iron wheels, so it's a little
heavier.

The shipping quotes I got from the dealers I found ranged from $166 to
$342! The $342 quote is from a dealer in NY. I live in NM.

Holy Shipping Rates, Batman!

Me thinks I should take another look at that Grizzly!

Jack


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"Devon Miller"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 7:33 AM

I don't have my catalog handy, but I believe Grizzly also sells the
ShopFox saws. At least I remember seeing the ShopFox name mentioned.
I'd suggest getting their catalog, it's free and has *lots* more stuff
than you can find on their website.

http://www.grizzly.com/catalog_requests.aspx

dcm

ww

willshak

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 7:51 AM

George wrote:
> "George" <George@least> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>> Grizzly has some special rates with carriers. The quoted rates may even
>>> be subsidized a bit too. They are really quite a bargain. In reality,
>>> the $342 rate from MY to NM is about right for a common carrier that does
>>> mostly LTL moves. We can often get a backhauler to do a shipment (we pay
>>> for the entire truck) for less than a common carrier will move 6 pallets
>>> for a few hundred miles.
>>>
>>>
>> All of which was the reason the FCC was formed. Of course it was the
>> railroads that were doing evil then.
>>
>>
> ICC of course. Too many years playing with RF ....
>

Holy "Beam me up, Scotty", I thought the Transporter was finally a
reality. :-)
I would assume that the transporter would be FCC controlled.


--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY

BE

Brian Elfert

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 5:08 PM

mac davis <[email protected]> writes:

>I remember sort of lusting after a really nice vise on Ebay... great deal at $25
>bit add the calculated shipping of about $45 and it's not worth the cost..

The Ebay shipping calculator allows the seller to to add handling charges
in addition to the calculated shipping rates. That $45 shipping fee may
not have represented the actual cost of shipping.

Xbox 360 sellers on Ebay were routinely charging shipping costs of two to
three times the actual shipping costs. They claimed the inflated shipping
was to cover the Paypal and Ebay fees. As if the 100% profit many of them
made couldn't cover the Paypal and Ebay fees.

On Ebay, I charge a realisitic flat fee for shipping an item. If the
buyer is far away, I lose a few bucks and if the buyer is close I might
make a few bucks.

Brian Elfert

LB

Larry Blanchard

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 9:17 AM

Stephen M wrote:

> Less than truck load is correct. It's a general term referring to the
> motor freight/shipping industry refers to the shipping of objects
> larger than what UPS typically handles, yet not requiring a dedicated
> truck. I would guess that 98% or more of all LTL shipments are
> palletized.

Or "LCL" back in railroad days - "Less than a CarLoad".

--
It's turtles, all the way down

GG

"George"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 7:13 AM


"Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Grizzly has some special rates with carriers. The quoted rates may even
> be subsidized a bit too. They are really quite a bargain. In reality,
> the $342 rate from MY to NM is about right for a common carrier that does
> mostly LTL moves. We can often get a backhauler to do a shipment (we pay
> for the entire truck) for less than a common carrier will move 6 pallets
> for a few hundred miles.
>

All of which was the reason the FCC was formed. Of course it was the
railroads that were doing evil then.

GG

"George"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 7:17 AM


"George" <George@least> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Grizzly has some special rates with carriers. The quoted rates may even
>> be subsidized a bit too. They are really quite a bargain. In reality,
>> the $342 rate from MY to NM is about right for a common carrier that does
>> mostly LTL moves. We can often get a backhauler to do a shipment (we pay
>> for the entire truck) for less than a common carrier will move 6 pallets
>> for a few hundred miles.
>>
>
> All of which was the reason the FCC was formed. Of course it was the
> railroads that were doing evil then.
>
ICC of course. Too many years playing with RF ....

JT

"Joe Tylicki"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

21/03/2006 5:58 AM

Then you have Amazon. Free shipping on my planer, which arrived in about
one week in three shipments from two carriers with a combined total weight
of around 500 lbs. They still had the best price I could find on the Delta
15" planer. Don't know how they do it.


>
> Grizzly has some special rates with carriers. The quoted rates may even
> be subsidized a bit too. They are really quite a bargain. In reality,
> the $342 rate from MY to NM is about right for a common carrier that does
> mostly LTL moves. We can often get a backhauler to do a shipment (we pay
> for the entire truck) for less than a common carrier will move 6 pallets
> for a few hundred miles.
>

MJ

Mark & Juanita

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

19/03/2006 10:16 PM

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:17:40 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
>in message news:[email protected]...
>>A Grizzly G0555 bandsaw ships for $69.25 plus a $4.25 fuel surcharge. Not
>>bad at all for a 210 pound shipping weight.
>
>>
>> The shipping quotes I got from the dealers I found ranged from $166 to
>> $342! The $342 quote is from a dealer in NY. I live in NM.
>>
>> Holy Shipping Rates, Batman!
>>
>> Me thinks I should take another look at that Grizzly!
>
>Grizzly has some special rates with carriers. The quoted rates may even be
>subsidized a bit too. They are really quite a bargain. In reality, the
>$342 rate from MY to NM is about right for a common carrier that does mostly
>LTL moves. We can often get a backhauler to do a shipment (we pay for the
>entire truck) for less than a common carrier will move 6 pallets for a few
>hundred miles.
>

You've used the acronym LTL several times. I've done a lookup on
<http://www.acronymfinder.com> and it comes up with several possible
applicable meanings. "Less than Total Load", "Less than truckload lot", or
"Less Than Truck Load"? All kind of imply the same thing I guess. Or is
it something else?



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EP

"Edwin Pawlowski"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 4:17 AM


"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
>A Grizzly G0555 bandsaw ships for $69.25 plus a $4.25 fuel surcharge. Not
>bad at all for a 210 pound shipping weight.

>
> The shipping quotes I got from the dealers I found ranged from $166 to
> $342! The $342 quote is from a dealer in NY. I live in NM.
>
> Holy Shipping Rates, Batman!
>
> Me thinks I should take another look at that Grizzly!

Grizzly has some special rates with carriers. The quoted rates may even be
subsidized a bit too. They are really quite a bargain. In reality, the
$342 rate from MY to NM is about right for a common carrier that does mostly
LTL moves. We can often get a backhauler to do a shipment (we pay for the
entire truck) for less than a common carrier will move 6 pallets for a few
hundred miles.

gn

"george"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 2:29 PM


"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
in message news:[email protected]...
>A Grizzly G0555 bandsaw ships for $69.25 plus a $4.25 fuel surcharge. Not
>bad at all for a 210 pound shipping weight.
>
> Most of the comparable bandsaws on Amazon ship for $99. Again, not bad
> when you consider the weight.
>
> Okay, so I was checking out the Shopfox 14" bandsaw, which is essentially
> a Grizzly G0555 but with cast iron wheels, so it's a little heavier.
>
> The shipping quotes I got from the dealers I found ranged from $166 to
> $342! The $342 quote is from a dealer in NY. I live in NM.
>

At those rates, it must've cost them at least $1200 to get it to NY from
China...

> Holy Shipping Rates, Batman!
>
> Me thinks I should take another look at that Grizzly!
>
> Jack
>
>

md

mac davis

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

21/03/2006 7:42 AM

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:08:38 -0000, Brian Elfert <[email protected]> wrote:

>mac davis <[email protected]> writes:
>
>>I remember sort of lusting after a really nice vise on Ebay... great deal at $25
>>bit add the calculated shipping of about $45 and it's not worth the cost..
>
>The Ebay shipping calculator allows the seller to to add handling charges
>in addition to the calculated shipping rates. That $45 shipping fee may
>not have represented the actual cost of shipping.

It probably was, though... this was a massive amount of iron.. *g*
>
>Xbox 360 sellers on Ebay were routinely charging shipping costs of two to
>three times the actual shipping costs. They claimed the inflated shipping
>was to cover the Paypal and Ebay fees. As if the 100% profit many of them
>made couldn't cover the Paypal and Ebay fees.
>
>On Ebay, I charge a realisitic flat fee for shipping an item. If the
>buyer is far away, I lose a few bucks and if the buyer is close I might
>make a few bucks.
>
>Brian Elfert

You have to calculate cost on Ebay as price plus shipping... some sellers give
stuff away and make a large profit on shipping fees...

When I was doing a lo of selling there, I'd charge "actual fee" shipping plus $1
handling...
After the auction, I'd have the post office figure shipping and give the buyer
the total to send..

Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

md

mac davis

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 8:03 AM

On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:36:50 -0700, "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"
<"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote:

>A Grizzly G0555 bandsaw ships for $69.25 plus a $4.25 fuel surcharge.
>Not bad at all for a 210 pound shipping weight.
>
>Most of the comparable bandsaws on Amazon ship for $99. Again, not bad
>when you consider the weight.
>
>Okay, so I was checking out the Shopfox 14" bandsaw, which is
>essentially a Grizzly G0555 but with cast iron wheels, so it's a little
>heavier.
>
>The shipping quotes I got from the dealers I found ranged from $166 to
>$342! The $342 quote is from a dealer in NY. I live in NM.
>
>Holy Shipping Rates, Batman!
>
>Me thinks I should take another look at that Grizzly!
>
>Jack
>
It's been my experience that with heavy items, unless you're saving a ton of
money by not buying locally, shipping kills the savings..

I remember sort of lusting after a really nice vise on Ebay... great deal at $25
bit add the calculated shipping of about $45 and it's not worth the cost..

Mac

https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

SM

"Stephen M"

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 7:23 AM

>
> You've used the acronym LTL several times. I've done a lookup on
> <http://www.acronymfinder.com> and it comes up with several possible
> applicable meanings. "Less than Total Load", "Less than truckload lot",
or
> "Less Than Truck Load"? All kind of imply the same thing I guess. Or is
> it something else?

Less than truck load is correct. It's a general term referring to the motor
freight/shipping industry refers to the shipping of objects larger than what
UPS typically handles, yet not requiring a dedicated truck. I would guess
that 98% or more of all LTL shipments are palletized.

-Steve

ma

"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net">

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

19/03/2006 11:06 PM

That makes sense. Still, it seems like a lot. Shipping for a 1300
pound safe was on $332. I suppose it has to do with volume and, as you
said, some special rates.

But given all that, maybe I should just stop debating the issue and buy
the Grizzly. It's a good machine and with a shipping rate that low, I
can buy lots of blades with the money I save!

Jack

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> wrote
> in message news:[email protected]...
>
>>A Grizzly G0555 bandsaw ships for $69.25 plus a $4.25 fuel surcharge. Not
>>bad at all for a 210 pound shipping weight.
>
>
>>The shipping quotes I got from the dealers I found ranged from $166 to
>>$342! The $342 quote is from a dealer in NY. I live in NM.
>>
>>Holy Shipping Rates, Batman!
>>
>>Me thinks I should take another look at that Grizzly!
>
>
> Grizzly has some special rates with carriers. The quoted rates may even be
> subsidized a bit too. They are really quite a bargain. In reality, the
> $342 rate from MY to NM is about right for a common carrier that does mostly
> LTL moves. We can often get a backhauler to do a shipment (we pay for the
> entire truck) for less than a common carrier will move 6 pallets for a few
> hundred miles.
>
>

BA

B A R R Y

in reply to "mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net" <"mywebaccts (at) PLUGcomcast.net"> on 19/03/2006 3:36 PM

20/03/2006 6:47 PM

willshak wrote:
>
> Holy "Beam me up, Scotty", I thought the Transporter was finally a
> reality. :-)
> I would assume that the transporter would be FCC controlled.


I can see it now! Instead of receiving broken tools, you get something
like a G1023 table saw with a Powermatic band saw head growing out of
the table.

Barry


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