On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 18:27:54 -0400, ads wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 15:02:25 -0500, [email protected] (Jerry
>Osage) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Michael
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>That this is a woodworking group.
>
>That's true, but there aren't many groups left with even
>semi-technical people. Those who repair their own woodworking
>equipment are more likely to repair their vehicles than most people.
The squeak may have been triggering the knock sensor, knocking back
the timing which would definitely hurt performance.
I'm saying MAY - and it is about the only thing I , as a retired
mechanic, could think of that COULD cause it.
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 7:09:21 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
> On 8/11/2019 2:07 PM, Michael wrote:
> > I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
> Slipping belts can affect many things. Alternator not providing enough
> voltage, water pump not cooling properly.
>
> Add a racing stripe and gain 15% more HP.
Leon,
It must have been a slipping belt that made the difference. Now to price those racing stripes . . .
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 8:09:21 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
> On 8/11/2019 2:07 PM, Michael wrote:
> > I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
>
> Slipping belts can affect many things. Alternator not providing enough
> voltage, water pump not cooling properly.
>
> Add a racing stripe and gain 15% more HP.
Washing the truck helps too.
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 6:00:46 PM UTC-5, Clare Snyder wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 18:27:54 -0400, ads wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 15:02:25 -0500, [email protected] (Jerry
> >Osage) wrote:
> >
> >>On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Michael
> >><[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks!
> >>>
> >>That this is a woodworking group.
> >
> >That's true, but there aren't many groups left with even
> >semi-technical people. Those who repair their own woodworking
> >equipment are more likely to repair their vehicles than most people.
> The squeak may have been triggering the knock sensor, knocking back
> the timing which would definitely hurt performance.
>
> I'm saying MAY - and it is about the only thing I , as a retired
> mechanic, could think of that COULD cause it.
Thanks, Clare! I would never have known that was a possibility.
Mike
On 8/14/2019 3:52 PM, Dave in SoTex wrote:
> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 17:59:44 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 8:09:21 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>>> On 8/11/2019 2:07 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> > I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked
>>> and > I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how
>>> much > better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make
>>> a > difference with performance. What am I missing?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>>
>>> Slipping belts can affect many things. Alternator not providing enough
>>> voltage, water pump not cooling properly.
>>>
>>> Add a racing stripe and gain 15% more HP.
>>
>> Washing the truck helps too.
>
> Now, that's a bridge _too_ far!
>
> Â Â Talcum powder will reduce its drag co-efficient.
>
> Dave in SoTex
>
>
Oh no, spray the body with silicone, let the painters deal with it
later. ;~)
On 8/11/2019 10:48 PM, Michael wrote:
> On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 7:09:21 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/11/2019 2:07 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>> Slipping belts can affect many things. Alternator not providing enough
>> voltage, water pump not cooling properly.
>>
>> Add a racing stripe and gain 15% more HP.
>
> Leon,
>
> It must have been a slipping belt that made the difference. Now to price those racing stripes . . .
>
;~)
I recall many years ago my alternator belt was slipping on an already
under powered vehicle and it was really sluggish.
New belt, found lost power. I added stripes later. ;~)
On 8/11/2019 2:07 PM, Michael wrote:
> I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>
> Thanks!
>
Slipping belts can affect many things. Alternator not providing enough
voltage, water pump not cooling properly.
Add a racing stripe and gain 15% more HP.
On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 6:12:16 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Michael
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>
> Is it really running better, or does it just sound better (tighter)? I
> also have a '13 with about 93K. It doesn't sound bad at all. It's
> been a really good truck. Living its life in the South helps a lot.
It's running better. Before, it kind of dragged when I stopped and started, but now it really hums and goes. These F150s are really great trucks. I used to always drive V8s, but the truth is I really just need a six to haul wood here and there.
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>
>Thanks!
>
That this is a woodworking group.
--
Jerry O.
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 20:47:44 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 6:12:16 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Michael
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>>
>> Is it really running better, or does it just sound better (tighter)? I
>> also have a '13 with about 93K. It doesn't sound bad at all. It's
>> been a really good truck. Living its life in the South helps a lot.
>
>It's running better. Before, it kind of dragged when I stopped and started, but now it really hums and goes. These F150s are really great trucks. I used to always drive V8s, but the truth is I really just need a six to haul wood here and there.
A slippy belt will definitely cut down the charging rate and a low
battery will make it sluggish starting
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 12:57:14 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
wrote:
>On 8/11/2019 10:48 PM, Michael wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 7:09:21 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>> On 8/11/2019 2:07 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>> I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Slipping belts can affect many things. Alternator not providing enough
>>> voltage, water pump not cooling properly.
>>>
>>> Add a racing stripe and gain 15% more HP.
>>
>> Leon,
>>
>> It must have been a slipping belt that made the difference. Now to price those racing stripes . . .
>>
>
>;~)
>
>I recall many years ago my alternator belt was slipping on an already
>under powered vehicle and it was really sluggish.
>
>New belt, found lost power. I added stripes later. ;~)
>
I've only ever replaced a V-belt or serpentine belt
as a precaution - when it looked like it was aged-out.
I can't understand how a belt can do much slipping
without a whole-lotta-noise or failure ?
My only odd-ball and hard-to-diagnose situation - was an
intermittently squealing serpentine belt that was still in good
condition - tensioner was fine - it turned out to be a tiny
tiny < hot temp. mist spray > leak in the coolant reservoir !
When the engine heated up and built up a tiny bit of pressure
in the coolant reservoir - it sprayed onto the belt / pulley
and caused the slight slippage and noise ..
That's where I learned the trick to diagnose a squealing belt -
as opposed to a idler / alternator .. bearing noise.
When it's sitting there idling & squealing pour a tiny bit of
water - a teaspoon ish - over the nearest pulley -
If the squealing goes away immediately - gotta be belt noise.
If it was bearing noise - a few drops of water wouldn't have
that effect ..
ps : Clare one of the very few mystery problems
on my several olde Taurus Vulcan.
John T.
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 15:02:25 -0500, [email protected] (Jerry
Osage) wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Michael
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>That this is a woodworking group.
That's true, but there aren't many groups left with even
semi-technical people. Those who repair their own woodworking
equipment are more likely to repair their vehicles than most people.
On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:39:50 -0400, [email protected] wrote:
>On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 12:57:14 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
>wrote:
>
>>On 8/11/2019 10:48 PM, Michael wrote:
>>> On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 7:09:21 PM UTC-5, Leon wrote:
>>>> On 8/11/2019 2:07 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>>> I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Slipping belts can affect many things. Alternator not providing enough
>>>> voltage, water pump not cooling properly.
>>>>
>>>> Add a racing stripe and gain 15% more HP.
>>>
>>> Leon,
>>>
>>> It must have been a slipping belt that made the difference. Now to price those racing stripes . . .
>>>
>>
>>;~)
>>
>>I recall many years ago my alternator belt was slipping on an already
>>under powered vehicle and it was really sluggish.
>>
>>New belt, found lost power. I added stripes later. ;~)
>>
>
>I've only ever replaced a V-belt or serpentine belt
> as a precaution - when it looked like it was aged-out.
>I can't understand how a belt can do much slipping
>without a whole-lotta-noise or failure ?
> My only odd-ball and hard-to-diagnose situation - was an
>intermittently squealing serpentine belt that was still in good
>condition - tensioner was fine - it turned out to be a tiny
>tiny < hot temp. mist spray > leak in the coolant reservoir !
> When the engine heated up and built up a tiny bit of pressure
>in the coolant reservoir - it sprayed onto the belt / pulley
>and caused the slight slippage and noise ..
> That's where I learned the trick to diagnose a squealing belt -
>as opposed to a idler / alternator .. bearing noise.
> When it's sitting there idling & squealing pour a tiny bit of
>water - a teaspoon ish - over the nearest pulley -
> If the squealing goes away immediately - gotta be belt noise.
>If it was bearing noise - a few drops of water wouldn't have
>that effect ..
> ps : Clare one of the very few mystery problems
> on my several olde Taurus Vulcan.
> John T.
Had the "mini-pisser" leak in the upper rad hose of my 1989 3.0 liter
AeroScare coming home from Huntsville one nasty cold blowing winter
night. Thankfully I had a jaclknife and a tool to fit the hose clamp.
Cut off about 5/8" of rad hose and put it back together - no more
leak. The water trick for checking belt noise goes WAY back - learned
that as an a pprentice back in 1969. On V belts a bit of soap in the
water helped - on serprntines that can either shut it up or turn the
sueal into a howl!!!!!
wrote in message news:[email protected]...
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 17:59:44 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 8:09:21 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/11/2019 2:07 PM, Michael wrote:
>> > I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and
>> > I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much
>> > better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a
>> > difference with performance. What am I missing?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>>
>> Slipping belts can affect many things. Alternator not providing enough
>> voltage, water pump not cooling properly.
>>
>> Add a racing stripe and gain 15% more HP.
>
>Washing the truck helps too.
Now, that's a bridge _too_ far!
Talcum powder will reduce its drag co-efficient.
Dave in SoTex
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:07:50 -0700 (PDT), Michael
<[email protected]> wrote:
>I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
Is it really running better, or does it just sound better (tighter)? I
also have a '13 with about 93K. It doesn't sound bad at all. It's
been a really good truck. Living its life in the South helps a lot.
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 17:59:44 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
<[email protected]> wrote:
>On Sunday, August 11, 2019 at 8:09:21 PM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
>> On 8/11/2019 2:07 PM, Michael wrote:
>> > I have a 2013 F150 six cylinder, with 90K miles. The belts squeaked and I had the serpentine and AC belts changed. I am amazed at how much better the truck is running. I wouldn't think that would make a difference with performance. What am I missing?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>>
>> Slipping belts can affect many things. Alternator not providing enough
>> voltage, water pump not cooling properly.
>>
>> Add a racing stripe and gain 15% more HP.
>
>Washing the truck helps too.
Now, that's a bridge _too_ far!